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I believe whether he's already been here or not - he'll do exactly what Malachi 4:5 says:

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord

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I also think his first appearance will be in Israel

Why?

Because, as usual, God always sends a prophet to warn his people of impending doom.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And IMO, his next prophetic mission after Israel - will be the entire world.

Perhaps as one of the two witnesses, as most think.
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Gospel goes first to jews and then gentiles:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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Next question:

Will he have a web presence?
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Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the children to their fathers

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If it's anytime soon - he'll have to have a social media account to reach the children

What's difficult to determine is how he'll do this...

Will he be a pop star, or some other well known figure?
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And IMO, his next prophetic mission after Israel - will be the entire world.

Perhaps as one of the two witnesses, as most think.
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Gospel goes first to jews and then gentiles:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Next question:

Will he have a web presence?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the children to their fathers

---

If it's anytime soon - he'll have to have a social media account to reach the children

What's difficult to determine is how he'll do this...

Will he be a pop star, or some other well known figure?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Of course, this is based on Elijah's returning in end times:

Small Excerpt:

It's really very simple. John was not Elijah by name or body, but the flesh profits nothing; he had the spirit of Elijah. Thus, literally he was and was not Elijah. Malachi 4 is speaking of John the Baptist only in the biblical phenomenon sense of dual prophetic fulfillment....

The way a Christian can know that there are two comings of Elijah is by the passage attributed in Isaiah about preparing the way of the Lord. In that passage the Lord tells Elijah to "Comfort my people," because Jerusalem had already received "double" for her sins.

John did not preach comfort, but that the axe was already laid at the root of the tree. Only after John was beheaded was Jerusalem destroyed a second time (i.e., twice) by the 10th Legion of Titus c. 68-70 A.D.

Therefore, the end-time Elijah will be one who turns hearts to Messiah and comforts them with reassurance of salvation as the nations threaten to destroy the Jewish nation for possession of Jerusalem- or, more specifically, a Muslim capital of Jerusalem.

So Elijah will be born again...

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Elijah was taken by God before Jesus was resurrected. Enoch would also qualify and both would become part of the 'many OT Saints' that were resurrected the same morning Jesus was. They would also have ascended to the Re:4 Temple with Jesus and stayed there while Jesus came back to be with a few followers as they went through their 40 day fast.
They would be the 24 Elders and they will have thrones in Jerusalem during the 1,000 year reign. They will instruct the whole House of Israel how temple service is done in a sinless world. It is a class that is 1,000 years long.
Moses is part of the ones in the Eze:37 resurrection and they join the 144,000 and combined they are 'the 12 Tribes', as such Moses would be a member of the 'flock' and the 24 Elders would be the 'shepherd'. The ones alive for the 1,000 years will be shepherds to all the people not alive for the 1,000 years once the new earth era starts.

Mal:4:5:
Behold,
I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal:4:6:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers,
lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

One of the subjects they would teach is about Satan and the remaining fallen angels are the 'Gog and Magog' in Eze:38 and 38 as Gog does not exist until 7 years and 7 months of the 1,000 year reign has passed. John the Baptist is being referenced in the verses below and together they are the two bruises from Ge:3:15.

Mal:3:1:
Behold,
I will send my messenger,
and he shall prepare the way before me:
and the Lord,
whom ye seek,
shall suddenly come to his temple,
even the messenger of the covenant,
whom ye delight in:
behold,
he shall come,
saith the LORD of hosts.


I haven't come across the 'blood moons' theory as it was supposed to 'climax' at the solstice coming up according to some theories.
Pre-tribbers were pushing it, I tend to thing the blood moon is caused by the smoke created when Jesus uses the fire used on Sodom is used on Satan's Babylon for a single hour
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Elijah was taken by God before Jesus was resurrected. Enoch would also qualify and both would become part of the 'many OT Saints' that were resurrected the same morning Jesus was. They would also have ascended to the Re:4 Temple with Jesus and stayed there while Jesus came back to be with a few followers as they went through their 40 day fast.
They would be the 24 Elders and they will have thrones in Jerusalem during the 1,000 year reign. They will instruct the whole House of Israel how temple service is done in a sinless world. It is a class that is 1,000 years long.
Moses is part of the ones in the Eze:37 resurrection and they join the 144,000 and combined they are 'the 12 Tribes', as such Moses would be a member of the 'flock' and the 24 Elders would be the 'shepherd'. The ones alive for the 1,000 years will be shepherds to all the people not alive for the 1,000 years once the new earth era starts.

Mal:4:5:
Behold,
I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal:4:6:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers,
lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

One of the subjects they would teach is about Satan and the remaining fallen angels are the 'Gog and Magog' in Eze:38 and 38 as Gog does not exist until 7 years and 7 months of the 1,000 year reign has passed. John the Baptist is being referenced in the verses below and together they are the two bruises from Ge:3:15.

Mal:3:1:
Behold,
I will send my messenger,
and he shall prepare the way before me:
and the Lord,
whom ye seek,
shall suddenly come to his temple,
even the messenger of the covenant,
whom ye delight in:
behold,
he shall come,
saith the LORD of hosts.


I haven't come across the 'blood moons' theory as it was supposed to 'climax' at the solstice coming up according to some theories.
Pre-tribbers were pushing it, I tend to thing the blood moon is caused by the smoke created when Jesus uses the fire used on Sodom is used on Satan's Babylon for a single hour
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Ezekiel 37 is all about Israelis returning to their land.

I don't recall any biblical basis for Moses ever residing in Israel...

Remember Israel is Jacob's progeny....
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Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Ezekiel 37 is all about Israelis returning to their land.

I don't recall any biblical basis for Moses ever residing in Israel...

Remember Israel is Jacob's progeny....
 Quoting: b4its2l8

Eze:37:15-22:
The word of the LORD came again unto me,
saying,
Moreover,
thou son of man,
take thee one stick,
and write upon it,
For Judah,
and for the children of Israel his companions:
then take another stick,
and write upon it,
For Joseph,
the stick of Ephraim,
and for all the house of Israel his companions:
And join them one to another into one stick;
and they shall become one in thine hand.
And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying,
Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
Say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the stick of Joseph,
which is in the hand of Ephraim,
and the tribes of Israel his fellows,
and will put them with him,
even with the stick of Judah,
and make them one stick,
and they shall be one in mine hand.
And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
And say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone,
and will gather them on every side,
and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel;
and one king shall be king to them all:
and they shall be no more two nations,
neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

If I add a timeline it might help show how things go on the day of His return. The two witnesses are raised by 12PM, the 7 vials are poured out in just a few hours and then the re:20:4 resurrections will take place. For the 12 Tribes it means being raised from the grave so you are in the land of Israel (Eze:version) The 'house' in Eze:37 is the Temple from Zec:6. The 144,000 and the newly resurrected people will drink the water and eat from the tree of life withing 10 days.
Over the next 30 days the 'Church' will wander in from the east. They walk so they become witnesses to the destruction that happen during the 7 vials and they have drank the eater and eaten from the tree of life so they are sinless when they enter Jerusalem.
Moses was the first High Priest to the 12 Tribes, before that the High Priest of Salem was the High Priest. That would have made him Adam and Eve's High Priest also. Moses introduced the exodus wars that saw the last 6 fingered person killed. That ended the law they represented (Tr:21 Law) and the 10 Commandments became the Law. That is also when the 120 year determination from Ge:6 came into effect. God would judge people at the age of 120, Moses died as god would have had to judge him to be a sinner.
Being born after Abraham's son would make him a member of the 12 Tribes, the 24 Elders are from all nations and they are probably the oldest lived people and that would be from before the flood. The instruction they bring would be based being witnesses to how fallen angels acted before the flood when the extermination of 5 fingered mankind was the program being run.
That is what Satan and the remaining fallen angels will be thinking of doing when they are released from the Pit at the end of the 1,000 year reign.

This is to show the only gathering has the ones in the grave being included, it is a sign that God is at work, without them being alive it is not prophecy unfolding.

M't:2:16-18:
Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
and weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted,
because they are not.

Jer:31:15-17:
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears:
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.

The ones gathered here would include the resurrected also so that is who is doing the clean-up at the start of the same chapter. Israel in Zec:14 would also be the living and the resurrected and the yearly feast will happen 1,000 times in a row.

Eze:39:25-29:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob,
and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel,
and will be jealous for my holy name;
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen:
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.
Neither will I hide my face any more from them:
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.

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Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Ezekiel 37 is all about Israelis returning to their land.

I don't recall any biblical basis for Moses ever residing in Israel...

Remember Israel is Jacob's progeny....
 Quoting: b4its2l8

Eze:37:15-22:
The word of the LORD came again unto me,
saying,
Moreover,
thou son of man,
take thee one stick,
and write upon it,
For Judah,
and for the children of Israel his companions:
then take another stick,
and write upon it,
For Joseph,
the stick of Ephraim,
and for all the house of Israel his companions:
And join them one to another into one stick;
and they shall become one in thine hand.
And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying,
Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
Say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the stick of Joseph,
which is in the hand of Ephraim,
and the tribes of Israel his fellows,
and will put them with him,
even with the stick of Judah,
and make them one stick,
and they shall be one in mine hand.
And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
And say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone,
and will gather them on every side,
and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel;
and one king shall be king to them all:
and they shall be no more two nations,
neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

If I add a timeline it might help show how things go on the day of His return. The two witnesses are raised by 12PM, the 7 vials are poured out in just a few hours and then the re:20:4 resurrections will take place. For the 12 Tribes it means being raised from the grave so you are in the land of Israel (Eze:version) The 'house' in Eze:37 is the Temple from Zec:6. The 144,000 and the newly resurrected people will drink the water and eat from the tree of life withing 10 days.
Over the next 30 days the 'Church' will wander in from the east. They walk so they become witnesses to the destruction that happen during the 7 vials and they have drank the eater and eaten from the tree of life so they are sinless when they enter Jerusalem.
Moses was the first High Priest to the 12 Tribes, before that the High Priest of Salem was the High Priest. That would have made him Adam and Eve's High Priest also. Moses introduced the exodus wars that saw the last 6 fingered person killed. That ended the law they represented (Tr:21 Law) and the 10 Commandments became the Law. That is also when the 120 year determination from Ge:6 came into effect. God would judge people at the age of 120, Moses died as god would have had to judge him to be a sinner.
Being born after Abraham's son would make him a member of the 12 Tribes, the 24 Elders are from all nations and they are probably the oldest lived people and that would be from before the flood. The instruction they bring would be based being witnesses to how fallen angels acted before the flood when the extermination of 5 fingered mankind was the program being run.
That is what Satan and the remaining fallen angels will be thinking of doing when they are released from the Pit at the end of the 1,000 year reign.

This is to show the only gathering has the ones in the grave being included, it is a sign that God is at work, without them being alive it is not prophecy unfolding.

M't:2:16-18:
Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
and weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted,
because they are not.

Jer:31:15-17:
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears:
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.

The ones gathered here would include the resurrected also so that is who is doing the clean-up at the start of the same chapter. Israel in Zec:14 would also be the living and the resurrected and the yearly feast will happen 1,000 times in a row.

Eze:39:25-29:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob,
and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel,
and will be jealous for my holy name;
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen:
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.
Neither will I hide my face any more from them:
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Thing is

God told Moses he would never enter 'the promised land'...

“Then the Lord said to him, ‘This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, “I will give it to your descendants.” I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.’

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The 12 tribes of Israel were never lead by Moses...

Moses is hailed as the leader of the Exodus, the one through whom God delivered His people from Egyptian slavery.

But like I said - he ever entered Israel or lived there.
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Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Ezekiel 37 is all about Israelis returning to their land.

I don't recall any biblical basis for Moses ever residing in Israel...

Remember Israel is Jacob's progeny....
 Quoting: b4its2l8

Eze:37:15-22:
The word of the LORD came again unto me,
saying,
Moreover,
thou son of man,
take thee one stick,
and write upon it,
For Judah,
and for the children of Israel his companions:
then take another stick,
and write upon it,
For Joseph,
the stick of Ephraim,
and for all the house of Israel his companions:
And join them one to another into one stick;
and they shall become one in thine hand.
And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying,
Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
Say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the stick of Joseph,
which is in the hand of Ephraim,
and the tribes of Israel his fellows,
and will put them with him,
even with the stick of Judah,
and make them one stick,
and they shall be one in mine hand.
And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
And say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone,
and will gather them on every side,
and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel;
and one king shall be king to them all:
and they shall be no more two nations,
neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

If I add a timeline it might help show how things go on the day of His return. The two witnesses are raised by 12PM, the 7 vials are poured out in just a few hours and then the re:20:4 resurrections will take place. For the 12 Tribes it means being raised from the grave so you are in the land of Israel (Eze:version) The 'house' in Eze:37 is the Temple from Zec:6. The 144,000 and the newly resurrected people will drink the water and eat from the tree of life withing 10 days.
Over the next 30 days the 'Church' will wander in from the east. They walk so they become witnesses to the destruction that happen during the 7 vials and they have drank the eater and eaten from the tree of life so they are sinless when they enter Jerusalem.
Moses was the first High Priest to the 12 Tribes, before that the High Priest of Salem was the High Priest. That would have made him Adam and Eve's High Priest also. Moses introduced the exodus wars that saw the last 6 fingered person killed. That ended the law they represented (Tr:21 Law) and the 10 Commandments became the Law. That is also when the 120 year determination from Ge:6 came into effect. God would judge people at the age of 120, Moses died as god would have had to judge him to be a sinner.
Being born after Abraham's son would make him a member of the 12 Tribes, the 24 Elders are from all nations and they are probably the oldest lived people and that would be from before the flood. The instruction they bring would be based being witnesses to how fallen angels acted before the flood when the extermination of 5 fingered mankind was the program being run.
That is what Satan and the remaining fallen angels will be thinking of doing when they are released from the Pit at the end of the 1,000 year reign.

This is to show the only gathering has the ones in the grave being included, it is a sign that God is at work, without them being alive it is not prophecy unfolding.

M't:2:16-18:
Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet,
saying,
In Rama was there a voice heard,
lamentation,
and weeping,
and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children,
and would not be comforted,
because they are not.

Jer:31:15-17:
Thus saith the LORD;
A voice was heard in Ramah,
lamentation,
and bitter weeping;
Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children,
because they were not.
Thus saith the LORD;
Refrain thy voice from weeping,
and thine eyes from tears:
for thy work shall be rewarded,
saith the LORD;
and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
And there is hope in thine end,
saith the LORD,
that thy children shall come again to their own border.

The ones gathered here would include the resurrected also so that is who is doing the clean-up at the start of the same chapter. Israel in Zec:14 would also be the living and the resurrected and the yearly feast will happen 1,000 times in a row.

Eze:39:25-29:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD;
Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob,
and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel,
and will be jealous for my holy name;
After that they have borne their shame,
and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me,
when they dwelt safely in their land,
and none made them afraid.
When I have brought them again from the people,
and gathered them out of their enemies' lands,
and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,
which cause them to be led into captivity among the heathen:
but I have gathered them unto their own land,
and have left none of them any more there.
Neither will I hide my face any more from them:
for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel,
saith the Lord GOD.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Thing is

God told Moses he would never enter 'the promised land'...

“Then the Lord said to him, ‘This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, “I will give it to your descendants.” I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.’

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The 12 tribes of Israel were never lead by Moses...

Moses is hailed as the leader of the Exodus, the one through whom God delivered His people from Egyptian slavery.

But like I said - he never entered Israel or lived there.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


I don't know if this restriction will apply in end times

But we know God is merciful and perhaps God will let Moses into the promised land as 1 of the 2 witnesses.

Then again - maybe not
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Thing is

God told Moses he would never enter 'the promised land'...

“Then the Lord said to him, ‘This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, “I will give it to your descendants.” I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.’

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The 12 tribes of Israel were never lead by Moses...

Moses is hailed as the leader of the Exodus, the one through whom God delivered His people from Egyptian slavery.

But like I said - he ever entered Israel or lived there.
 Quoting: b4its2l8

God also took his life at the age of 120. Nobody has lived to be older than that before entering the grave. That is the 120 years from Ge:6 and Isaiah"65 shows that is also the way it would in the New Earth era.

I don't know if this restriction will apply in end times

But we know God is merciful and perhaps God will let Moses into the promised land as 1 of the 2 witnesses.

Then again - maybe not
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If Moses was to come back without being one of the 24 Elders in Re:5 as they would be a complete group when some OT Saints were resurrected Moses should have been on of them. Enoch and Ezekiel would fit in with that group. It would be made up of the longest lived people. Moses and John the Baptist would be from the group in the 5th seal prophecy and the ones they are waiting for are the two witnesses. Together they watch events from cloud height once they are resurrected. You can only die once and that means you are only resurrected once.
The 1260 days the two witnesses are given mirrors the 42 months given to 'the Church; and both periods end on the day the two witnesses are killed.
They will be Gentiles who have the same sort of powers there Moses was given.

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And IMO, his next prophetic mission after Israel - will be the entire world.

Perhaps as one of the two witnesses, as most think.
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Gospel goes first to jews and then gentiles:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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Next question:

Will he have a web presence?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the children to their fathers

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If it's anytime soon - he'll have to have a social media account to reach the children

What's difficult to determine is how he'll do this...

Will he be a pop star, or some other well known figure?
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Another question

Social media is slowly tightening the noose on conservatives and may do the same to religious groups.

How would he communicate if these avenues were closed?
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Gospel goes first to jews and then gentiles:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Next question:

Will he have a web presence?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the children to their fathers

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If it's anytime soon - he'll have to have a social media account to reach the children

What's difficult to determine is how he'll do this...

Will he be a pop star, or some other well known figure?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Another question

Social media is slowly tightening the noose on conservatives and may do the same to religious groups.

How would he communicate if these avenues were closed?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Thread: THE SOCIAL MEDIA PURGE AND HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYONE

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The unfairly biased search results show people who are trying to learn more about a topic only one side of the information.

You don’t have to be on a Twitter feed to see how this is an overwhelmingly anti-American problem. Like it or not, social media is a monumental source of information these days, and when it’s censored to only show one point of view, the future of our republic is in peril. We are well on our way to peak censorship and this has been carefully orchestrated.
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Next question:

Will he have a web presence?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the children to their fathers

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If it's anytime soon - he'll have to have a social media account to reach the children

What's difficult to determine is how he'll do this...

Will he be a pop star, or some other well known figure?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Another question

Social media is slowly tightening the noose on conservatives and may do the same to religious groups.

How would he communicate if these avenues were closed?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Thread: THE SOCIAL MEDIA PURGE AND HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYONE

quote:

The unfairly biased search results show people who are trying to learn more about a topic only one side of the information.

You don’t have to be on a Twitter feed to see how this is an overwhelmingly anti-American problem. Like it or not, social media is a monumental source of information these days, and when it’s censored to only show one point of view, the future of our republic is in peril. We are well on our way to peak censorship and this has been carefully orchestrated.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.
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Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the children to their fathers

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If it's anytime soon - he'll have to have a social media account to reach the children

What's difficult to determine is how he'll do this...

Will he be a pop star, or some other well known figure?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Another question

Social media is slowly tightening the noose on conservatives and may do the same to religious groups.

How would he communicate if these avenues were closed?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Thread: THE SOCIAL MEDIA PURGE AND HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYONE

quote:

The unfairly biased search results show people who are trying to learn more about a topic only one side of the information.

You don’t have to be on a Twitter feed to see how this is an overwhelmingly anti-American problem. Like it or not, social media is a monumental source of information these days, and when it’s censored to only show one point of view, the future of our republic is in peril. We are well on our way to peak censorship and this has been carefully orchestrated.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


But his message may be so compelling and appeal to people that they pay attention to him
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Another question

Social media is slowly tightening the noose on conservatives and may do the same to religious groups.

How would he communicate if these avenues were closed?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Thread: THE SOCIAL MEDIA PURGE AND HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYONE

quote:

The unfairly biased search results show people who are trying to learn more about a topic only one side of the information.

You don’t have to be on a Twitter feed to see how this is an overwhelmingly anti-American problem. Like it or not, social media is a monumental source of information these days, and when it’s censored to only show one point of view, the future of our republic is in peril. We are well on our way to peak censorship and this has been carefully orchestrated.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


But his message may be so compelling and appealing to people, that they pay attention to him
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Whatever he does it works:

He shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers...

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One more question:

How will we recognize Elijah?
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Thread: THE SOCIAL MEDIA PURGE AND HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYONE

quote:

The unfairly biased search results show people who are trying to learn more about a topic only one side of the information.

You don’t have to be on a Twitter feed to see how this is an overwhelmingly anti-American problem. Like it or not, social media is a monumental source of information these days, and when it’s censored to only show one point of view, the future of our republic is in peril. We are well on our way to peak censorship and this has been carefully orchestrated.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


But his message may be so compelling and appealing to people, that they pay attention to him
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Whatever he does it works:

He shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers...

---

One more question:

How will we recognize Elijah?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We know if he's one of the 2 witnesses there will be plenty of ways:

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth...
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If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


But his message may be so compelling and appealing to people, that they pay attention to him
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Whatever he does it works:

He shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers...

---

One more question:

How will we recognize Elijah?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We know if he's one of the 2 witnesses there will be plenty of ways:

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They will have no mercy on threatening, violent people:

Rev 11:5...and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
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But his message may be so compelling and appealing to people, that they pay attention to him
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Whatever he does it works:

He shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers...

---

One more question:

How will we recognize Elijah?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We know if he's one of the 2 witnesses there will be plenty of ways:

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They will have no mercy on threatening, violent people:

Rev 11:5...and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They can cause famine by withholding rain:

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy
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Whatever he does it works:

He shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers...

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One more question:

How will we recognize Elijah?
 Quoting: b4its2l8


We know if he's one of the 2 witnesses there will be plenty of ways:

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They will have no mercy on threatening, violent people:

Rev 11:5...and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They can cause famine by withholding rain:

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And have power over waters to turn them to blood
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We know if he's one of the 2 witnesses there will be plenty of ways:

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They will have no mercy on threatening, violent people:

Rev 11:5...and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They can cause famine by withholding rain:

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And have power over waters to turn them to blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
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They will have no mercy on threatening, violent people:

Rev 11:5...and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


They can cause famine by withholding rain:

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And have power over waters to turn them to blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Rev 11:6...to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
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They can cause famine by withholding rain:

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And have power over waters to turn them to blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Rev 11:6...to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


It's possible the 2 witnesses could cause the plagues of Matthew 24:7

...and there shall be famines, and pestilences
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And have power over waters to turn them to blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Rev 11:6...to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


It's possible the 2 witnesses could cause the plagues of Matthew 24:7

...and there shall be famines, and pestilences
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Accurate. Here's the deal though.

The horsemen. The witnesses. All have the ability to speak and make it so. The word of god is with them. If limited to each role.

I'd say they are all alive and on earth as we speak. But that they may not even be aware of their role or what they can do. I'm starting to think people will be blamed for famine, war, disease etc and they will be persecuted for causing it. Salem 2.0. You see.

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I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Rev 11:6...to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


It's possible the 2 witnesses could cause the plagues of Matthew 24:7

...and there shall be famines, and pestilences
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Accurate. Here's the deal though.

The horsemen. The witnesses. All have the ability to speak and make it so. The word of god is with them. If limited to each role.

I'd say they are all alive and on earth as we speak. But that they may not even be aware of their role or what they can do. I'm starting to think people will be blamed for famine, war, disease etc and they will be persecuted for causing it. Salem 2.0. You see.
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Good point!!
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And have power over waters to turn them to blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Rev 11:6...to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


It's possible the 2 witnesses could cause the plagues of Matthew 24:7

...and there shall be famines, and pestilences
 Quoting: b4its2l8


From an earlier post:

If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.

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Unless there is no internet - these actions of the 2 witnesses will most certainly go viral.

Be pretty had to explain away these actions.
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Interesting article connection between "The Cloud" today and the beast of Rev 13

Excerpt:

Wherever God blesses His creation with something good it appears that there is opposition due to the angelic rebellion. This is where we meet the clouds of doom and gloom.

God appears to mankind often in a theophanic cloud which translates into a deity in the cloud. Satan took note of this type of appearance by God and has a counterfeit.

The cloud is a nebulous term that has nothing to do with God's clouds. Your data is not in heaven. It has a terrestrial home. It’s stored in many somewheres — and the network of servers, find what you need and deliver it.

The cloud is not a physical entity, but instead is a vast network of remote servers around the globe which are hooked together and meant to operate as a single ecosystem.

I get some of my technology information from BRIGHT Talk who interestingly uses the informative email name of Hermes. Hermes was as you know in the pantheon of Olympian gods. He was the emissary and messenger of the gods. Hermes was also "the divine trickster" and "the god of boundaries and the transgression of boundaries, ... the patron of herdsmen, thieves, graves, and heralds." He is described as moving freely between the worlds of the mortal and divine, and was the conductor of souls into the afterlife (remember this later in the article when I talk about the conductor) . He was also viewed as the protector and patron of roads and travelers and commerce.

How dangerous are the technological clouds of gloom and doom? They are powerful and getting more so with each passing day because they feed on your data whether that is your health, banking, or consumer behavior each interaction is gobbled up and evaluated, traded, swapped, and shared between various parties including law enforcement, government, judicial, military, pharmaceutical companies, and transnational corporations. Google for instance uses over 4000+ Machine Learning and AI to solve real-world critical problems such as:


Tastier beer
Beating human forecasting
Reduce inventory costs

I agree. These are not global game-changers that will impact your eternal destiny, but the technology driving these solutions is a real threat to you eternal welfare....

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I wonder if the 2 witnesses are responsible for this:

Rev 8:12....a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Rev 11:6...to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


It's possible the 2 witnesses could cause the plagues of Matthew 24:7

...and there shall be famines, and pestilences
 Quoting: b4its2l8


From an earlier post:

If Elijah is banned from social media - doing the same miracles he did with the prophets of baal, would most likely result in videos that go viral.

Of course, it would be portrayed as a hoax.

-----

Unless there is no internet - these actions of the 2 witnesses will most certainly go viral.

Be pretty hard to explain away these actions.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Since it will most likely go viral - the whole world will be watching them - then this happens:

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
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There is no effort to remove their bodies:

Rev 11:There is no effort to remove their bodies:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
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There is no effort to remove their bodies:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
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Correction: Extra line - should be this:

There is no effort to remove their bodies:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
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There is no effort to remove their bodies:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Correction: Extra line - should be this:

There is no effort to remove their bodies:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Meanwhile, as their bodies lay dead in the street - people around the world were rejoicing and sending gifts to one another:

Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another