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All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost completed at present

 
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Any day now.
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Any day now.
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The signs are all around us

Bible Signs of the End Times

Small excerpt:

We are living in a time like no other. The world is being turned upside down...

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But here they are human:

Marcellus Kik has written that "the Greek term aggelos does not always refer to such heavenly spirits. The meaning of the term must be determined by the context. In the following passages the Greek word aggelos is translated by the word messenger: Matthew 11:10; Luke 7:24, 27; 9:52; Mark 1:2; James 2:25. John the Baptist is called an aggelos. The disciples of John the Baptist were also described as angels. And this was true in regard to the disciples of Christ. In James 2:25 the messengers sent to Rahab were called `angels.’" [J. Marcellus Kik, An Eschatology of Victory (Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian & Reformed, 1971), p. 147f.]

David Chilton makes the same point, showing that in the Old Testament the word mal’ak, often translated "angel," is used for human prophets in 2 Chronicles 36:15-16; Haggai 1:13; and Malachi 3:1. The "angels of the seven churches" in Revelation are surely human leaders, since it makes no sense to write a letter to a spirit angel....

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Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

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We now get into the why they will be placed in chains until the great day of judgement
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There is very much conjecture over the meaning of strange flesh

Here's one opinion:

What Does Jude 7 Mean By “Other Flesh”?

There is a case to be that Jude’s comment about sarkos heteras (“other flesh”) is a reference to sex with angels not sex with other men. Verse 6 is likely an allusion to the sin of the angels in Genesis 6:1-4, which according to Jewish tradition, involved angels having sex with the daughters of men....

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 Quoting: b4its2l8


What we learn in Jude is these angelic beings were anything but angels - or whatever our concept of what angels should be.

Somehow they were corrupted

By satan or whatever

But they became what we know today as 'fallen angels'.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More unsavory characteristics of these 'fallen angels':

Jude 1:8 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

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Their dreams are filled with vile and perverted fancies...
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Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

----

We now get into the why they will be placed in chains until the great day of judgement
 Quoting: b4its2l8


There is very much conjecture over the meaning of strange flesh

Here's one opinion:

What Does Jude 7 Mean By “Other Flesh”?

There is a case to be that Jude’s comment about sarkos heteras (“other flesh”) is a reference to sex with angels not sex with other men. Verse 6 is likely an allusion to the sin of the angels in Genesis 6:1-4, which according to Jewish tradition, involved angels having sex with the daughters of men....

[link to www.thegospelcoalition.org (secure)]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


What we learn in Jude is these angelic beings were anything but angels - or whatever our concept of what angels should be.

Somehow they were corrupted

By satan or whatever

But they became what we know today as 'fallen angels'.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More unsavory characteristics of these 'fallen angels':

Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

---

Their dreams are filled with vile and perverted fancies...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Jude 1:8 also tells us they despise dominion:

---

They reject the authority of God and government.

In the last days we see this happen with children and their parents

Proverbs 30:11,17
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother...

2 Peter 2:10-12
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government...
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There is very much conjecture over the meaning of strange flesh

Here's one opinion:

What Does Jude 7 Mean By “Other Flesh”?

There is a case to be that Jude’s comment about sarkos heteras (“other flesh”) is a reference to sex with angels not sex with other men. Verse 6 is likely an allusion to the sin of the angels in Genesis 6:1-4, which according to Jewish tradition, involved angels having sex with the daughters of men....

[link to www.thegospelcoalition.org (secure)]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


What we learn in Jude is these angelic beings were anything but angels - or whatever our concept of what angels should be.

Somehow they were corrupted

By satan or whatever

But they became what we know today as 'fallen angels'.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More unsavory characteristics of these 'fallen angels':

Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

---

Their dreams are filled with vile and perverted fancies...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Jude 1:8 also tells us they despise dominion:

---

They reject the authority of God and government.

In the last days we see this happen with children and their parents

Proverbs 30:11,17
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother...

2 Peter 2:10-12
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In the last days - children will be disobendient to parents:

2 Tim 3:2....disobedient to parents

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2 Tim 3

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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What we learn in Jude is these angelic beings were anything but angels - or whatever our concept of what angels should be.

Somehow they were corrupted

By satan or whatever

But they became what we know today as 'fallen angels'.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More unsavory characteristics of these 'fallen angels':

Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

---

Their dreams are filled with vile and perverted fancies...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Jude 1:8 also tells us they despise dominion:

---

They reject the authority of God and government.

In the last days we see this happen with children and their parents

Proverbs 30:11,17
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother...

2 Peter 2:10-12
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In the last days - children will be disobendient to parents:

2 Tim 3:2....disobedient to parents

---

2 Tim 3

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from 2 Peter 2 worth mentioning

We have Peter quoting from passages from the Book of Enoch:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished...
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YOU'RE WRONG!!!

Indeed these things have happened in the past, but never all of them in the same time period.

All that you have mentioned are happening TODAY!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6786087



History shows us that all end time prophecies during the past 2,000 plus years have been wrong; except those of Jesus. His predictions of the fall of Jerusalem and the Temple, his resurrection, His return , etc. They have all come to pass.

All that remains to take place is God's judgement and it will come as a thief in the night when people least expect it.
 Quoting: Zaphnath Paaneah


Which judgement? The lambs? The trumps or the bowls? What about the white throne judgement? Has the anti christ appeared? Not a single prophecy in the Bible has been wrong and if it hasent happened then it is to come. Judgement will be known. I would suggest you study scripture closely because your thinking is flawed. Study His word and not the beliefs of men.
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And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
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Amen OP time is short. How short I cannot say. The harvest is coming and His bride must be ready.
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And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
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Amen OP time is short. How short I cannot say. The harvest is coming and His bride must be ready.
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Yep hf
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The ram in daniel 8 is the king of Persia (Iran)
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The ram in daniel 8 is the king of Persia (Iran)
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I like this guys interpretation of Daniel 8.

Here's his video:

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YOU'RE WRONG!!!

Indeed these things have happened in the past, but never all of them in the same time period.

All that you have mentioned are happening TODAY!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6786087



History shows us that all end time prophecies during the past 2,000 plus years have been wrong; except those of Jesus. His predictions of the fall of Jerusalem and the Temple, his resurrection, His return , etc. They have all come to pass.

All that remains to take place is God's judgement and it will come as a thief in the night when people least expect it.
 Quoting: Zaphnath Paaneah


Which judgement? The lambs? The trumps or the bowls? What about the white throne judgement? Has the anti christ appeared? Not a single prophecy in the Bible has been wrong and if it hasent happened then it is to come. Judgement will be known. I would suggest you study scripture closely because your thinking is flawed. Study His word and not the beliefs of men.
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Which is why in these last days - God has the angels spread the gospel, and not fallable/biased men:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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More unsavory characteristics of these 'fallen angels':

Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

---

Their dreams are filled with vile and perverted fancies...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


Jude 1:8 also tells us they despise dominion:

---

They reject the authority of God and government.

In the last days we see this happen with children and their parents

Proverbs 30:11,17
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother...

2 Peter 2:10-12
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In the last days - children will be disobendient to parents:

2 Tim 3:2....disobedient to parents

---

2 Tim 3

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from 2 Peter 2 worth mentioning

We have Peter quoting from passages from the Book of Enoch:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


How do we know Peter is referring to Enoch and not Jude 1:6?

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

---

Because if this Overview of Jude is correct - Peter wrote his letter first.

Small Excerpt:

Assuming Peter wrote his letter first (AD 64–66), Jude probably wrote his epistle sometime between AD 67 and 80.

[link to insight.org]
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Jude 1:8 also tells us they despise dominion:

---

They reject the authority of God and government.

In the last days we see this happen with children and their parents

Proverbs 30:11,17
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother...

2 Peter 2:10-12
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In the last days - children will be disobendient to parents:

2 Tim 3:2....disobedient to parents

---

2 Tim 3

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from 2 Peter 2 worth mentioning

We have Peter quoting from passages from the Book of Enoch:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


How do we know Peter is referring to Enoch and not Jude 1:6?

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

---

Because if this Overview of Jude is correct - Peter wrote his letter first.

Small Excerpt:

Assuming Peter wrote his letter first (AD 64–66), Jude probably wrote his epistle sometime between AD 67 and 80.

[link to insight.org]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


The book of Jude and 2 Peter 2 have striking similarities according to the above commentary.

Both deal with the false prophets and teachers of their day.

We are given that same warning for these last days by Jesus in Matthew 24:

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
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In the last days - children will be disobendient to parents:

2 Tim 3:2....disobedient to parents

---

2 Tim 3

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


More from 2 Peter 2 worth mentioning

We have Peter quoting from passages from the Book of Enoch:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


How do we know Peter is referring to Enoch and not Jude 1:6?

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

---

Because if this Overview of Jude is correct - Peter wrote his letter first.

Small Excerpt:

Assuming Peter wrote his letter first (AD 64–66), Jude probably wrote his epistle sometime between AD 67 and 80.

[link to insight.org]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


The book of Jude and 2 Peter 2 have striking similarities according to the above commentary.

Both deal with the false prophets and teachers of their day.

We are given that same warning for these last days by Jesus in Matthew 24:

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In some places of Jude and Peter we have verses that match almost word for word in their meaning.

For example:

Jude

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion

Peter

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government
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More from 2 Peter 2 worth mentioning

We have Peter quoting from passages from the Book of Enoch:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished...
 Quoting: b4its2l8


How do we know Peter is referring to Enoch and not Jude 1:6?

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

---

Because if this Overview of Jude is correct - Peter wrote his letter first.

Small Excerpt:

Assuming Peter wrote his letter first (AD 64–66), Jude probably wrote his epistle sometime between AD 67 and 80.

[link to insight.org]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


The book of Jude and 2 Peter 2 have striking similarities according to the above commentary.

Both deal with the false prophets and teachers of their day.

We are given that same warning for these last days by Jesus in Matthew 24:

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In some places of Jude and Peter we have verses that match almost word for word in their meaning.

For example:

Jude

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion

Peter

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government
 Quoting: b4its2l8


2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption

----

Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
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How do we know Peter is referring to Enoch and not Jude 1:6?

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

---

Because if this Overview of Jude is correct - Peter wrote his letter first.

Small Excerpt:

Assuming Peter wrote his letter first (AD 64–66), Jude probably wrote his epistle sometime between AD 67 and 80.

[link to insight.org]
 Quoting: b4its2l8


The book of Jude and 2 Peter 2 have striking similarities according to the above commentary.

Both deal with the false prophets and teachers of their day.

We are given that same warning for these last days by Jesus in Matthew 24:

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In some places of Jude and Peter we have verses that match almost word for word in their meaning.

For example:

Jude

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion

Peter

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government
 Quoting: b4its2l8


2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption

----

Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And most of what Peter and Jude wrote is clearly paraphrased from the book of Enoch - mainly chapter 6,7 and 8:

Enoch 6:4But you endure not patiently, nor fulfill the commandments of the Lord; but you transgress and calumniate his greatness; and malignant are the words in your polluted mouths against his Majesty....

7:It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

8:Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways....
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The book of Jude and 2 Peter 2 have striking similarities according to the above commentary.

Both deal with the false prophets and teachers of their day.

We are given that same warning for these last days by Jesus in Matthew 24:

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


In some places of Jude and Peter we have verses that match almost word for word in their meaning.

For example:

Jude

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion

Peter

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government
 Quoting: b4its2l8


2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption

----

Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And most of what Peter and Jude wrote is clearly paraphrased from the book of Enoch - mainly chapter 6,7 and 8:

Enoch 6:4But you endure not patiently, nor fulfill the commandments of the Lord; but you transgress and calumniate his greatness; and malignant are the words in your polluted mouths against his Majesty....

7:It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

8:Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways....
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Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee...

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The irreverent and unbridled speech of these "filthy dreamers" is now contrasted with the self-restraint of one of the "dignities" of the angelic world. The point of the contrast is sufficiently clear.
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In some places of Jude and Peter we have verses that match almost word for word in their meaning.

For example:

Jude

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion

Peter

10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government
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2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption

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Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
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And most of what Peter and Jude wrote is clearly paraphrased from the book of Enoch - mainly chapter 6,7 and 8:

Enoch 6:4But you endure not patiently, nor fulfill the commandments of the Lord; but you transgress and calumniate his greatness; and malignant are the words in your polluted mouths against his Majesty....

7:It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

8:Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways....
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Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee...

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The irreverent and unbridled speech of these "filthy dreamers" is now contrasted with the self-restraint of one of the "dignities" of the angelic world. The point of the contrast is sufficiently clear.
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We find some interesting insights on the last few verses posted on the book of Jude in this commentary:

[link to www.swordsearcher.com (secure)]

All apostasy starts with disbelief in the word of God - stating that, the Israelites who had come out of Egypt and were destroyed in the wilderness because they believed not.

This is followed by the angels who kept not their first estate;

then comes Sodom and Gomorrha and the judgment which fell upon these cities, and finally Jude adds something which is not found elsewhere in the Word of God, the incident about Michael contending with the devil about the body of Moses.
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2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption

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Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
 Quoting: b4its2l8


And most of what Peter and Jude wrote is clearly paraphrased from the book of Enoch - mainly chapter 6,7 and 8:

Enoch 6:4But you endure not patiently, nor fulfill the commandments of the Lord; but you transgress and calumniate his greatness; and malignant are the words in your polluted mouths against his Majesty....

7:It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

8:Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77171549


Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee...

---

The irreverent and unbridled speech of these "filthy dreamers" is now contrasted with the self-restraint of one of the "dignities" of the angelic world. The point of the contrast is sufficiently clear.
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We find some interesting insights on the last few verses posted on the book of Jude in this commentary:

[link to www.swordsearcher.com (secure)]

All apostasy starts with disbelief in the word of God - stating that, the Israelites who had come out of Egypt and were destroyed in the wilderness because they believed not.

This is followed by the angels who kept not their first estate;

then comes Sodom and Gomorrha and the judgment which fell upon these cities, and finally Jude adds something which is not found elsewhere in the Word of God, the incident about Michael contending with the devil about the body of Moses.
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Judes message is very much for our times:

Excerpt:

The message of Jude may be called a prophetic history of the apostasy of Christendom from its beginning in apostolic days down to the end of the age, when the complete apostasy will be dealt with and completely destroyed by the coming of the Lord.

It is the darkest forecast of the end of the age which the Spirit of God has given in the Epistles. While apostasy and antichristianity have held sway all through the history of Christendom, there is coming in the end of this age a consummation, the evils of which are pictured by the Holy Spirit through the pen of Jude.

We know that we are living right in the midst of the fulfillment of Jude's message. The Epistle is, therefore, of great importance for our times.
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And most of what Peter and Jude wrote is clearly paraphrased from the book of Enoch - mainly chapter 6,7 and 8:

Enoch 6:4But you endure not patiently, nor fulfill the commandments of the Lord; but you transgress and calumniate his greatness; and malignant are the words in your polluted mouths against his Majesty....

7:It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.

8:Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77171549


Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee...

---

The irreverent and unbridled speech of these "filthy dreamers" is now contrasted with the self-restraint of one of the "dignities" of the angelic world. The point of the contrast is sufficiently clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75766907


We find some interesting insights on the last few verses posted on the book of Jude in this commentary:

[link to www.swordsearcher.com (secure)]

All apostasy starts with disbelief in the word of God - stating that, the Israelites who had come out of Egypt and were destroyed in the wilderness because they believed not.

This is followed by the angels who kept not their first estate;

then comes Sodom and Gomorrha and the judgment which fell upon these cities, and finally Jude adds something which is not found elsewhere in the Word of God, the incident about Michael contending with the devil about the body of Moses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75293761


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Judes message is very much for our times:

Excerpt:

The message of Jude may be called a prophetic history of the apostasy of Christendom from its beginning in apostolic days down to the end of the age, when the complete apostasy will be dealt with and completely destroyed by the coming of the Lord.

It is the darkest forecast of the end of the age which the Spirit of God has given in the Epistles. While apostasy and antichristianity have held sway all through the history of Christendom, there is coming in the end of this age a consummation, the evils of which are pictured by the Holy Spirit through the pen of Jude.

We know that we are living right in the midst of the fulfillment of Jude's message. The Epistle is, therefore, of great importance for our times.
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Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

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In the way of Cain.--The first great criminal; the first to outrage the laws of nature - by murdering his brother Abel
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Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee...

---

The irreverent and unbridled speech of these "filthy dreamers" is now contrasted with the self-restraint of one of the "dignities" of the angelic world. The point of the contrast is sufficiently clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75766907


We find some interesting insights on the last few verses posted on the book of Jude in this commentary:

[link to www.swordsearcher.com (secure)]

All apostasy starts with disbelief in the word of God - stating that, the Israelites who had come out of Egypt and were destroyed in the wilderness because they believed not.

This is followed by the angels who kept not their first estate;

then comes Sodom and Gomorrha and the judgment which fell upon these cities, and finally Jude adds something which is not found elsewhere in the Word of God, the incident about Michael contending with the devil about the body of Moses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75293761


More from swordsearcher

Judes message is very much for our times:

Excerpt:

The message of Jude may be called a prophetic history of the apostasy of Christendom from its beginning in apostolic days down to the end of the age, when the complete apostasy will be dealt with and completely destroyed by the coming of the Lord.

It is the darkest forecast of the end of the age which the Spirit of God has given in the Epistles. While apostasy and antichristianity have held sway all through the history of Christendom, there is coming in the end of this age a consummation, the evils of which are pictured by the Holy Spirit through the pen of Jude.

We know that we are living right in the midst of the fulfillment of Jude's message. The Epistle is, therefore, of great importance for our times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77361387


Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

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In the way of Cain.--The first great criminal; the first to outrage the laws of nature - by murdering his brother Abel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77370781


What is the story of Cain and Abel?

Sent out into the world, Adam and Eve give birth to two sons, Cain and Abel.

Cain, a farmer, offers God a portion of his crops one day as a sacrifice, only to learn that God is more pleased when Abel, a herdsman, presents God with the fattest portion of his flocks.

Enraged, Cain kills his brother.
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I think this is an amazing compilation of biblical events as compared to whats happening today, however my one complaint is why AC's are included in there...AC is a godlike productions thing that has nothing to do with the bible or end times
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I think this is an amazing compilation of biblical events as compared to whats happening today, however my one complaint is why AC's are included in there...AC is a godlike productions thing that has nothing to do with the bible or end times
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Why go to church and speak to the choir?

In Matthew 24 Jesus said the gospel will be spread to all nations - one corner of the earth to the other (not intended to promote flat earth proponents:)

Therefore, why not here?
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We find some interesting insights on the last few verses posted on the book of Jude in this commentary:

[link to www.swordsearcher.com (secure)]

All apostasy starts with disbelief in the word of God - stating that, the Israelites who had come out of Egypt and were destroyed in the wilderness because they believed not.

This is followed by the angels who kept not their first estate;

then comes Sodom and Gomorrha and the judgment which fell upon these cities, and finally Jude adds something which is not found elsewhere in the Word of God, the incident about Michael contending with the devil about the body of Moses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75293761


More from swordsearcher

Judes message is very much for our times:

Excerpt:

The message of Jude may be called a prophetic history of the apostasy of Christendom from its beginning in apostolic days down to the end of the age, when the complete apostasy will be dealt with and completely destroyed by the coming of the Lord.

It is the darkest forecast of the end of the age which the Spirit of God has given in the Epistles. While apostasy and antichristianity have held sway all through the history of Christendom, there is coming in the end of this age a consummation, the evils of which are pictured by the Holy Spirit through the pen of Jude.

We know that we are living right in the midst of the fulfillment of Jude's message. The Epistle is, therefore, of great importance for our times.


Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

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In the way of Cain.--The first great criminal; the first to outrage the laws of nature - by murdering his brother Abel


What is the story of Cain and Abel?

Sent out into the world, Adam and Eve give birth to two sons, Cain and Abel.

Cain, a farmer, offers God a portion of his crops one day as a sacrifice, only to learn that God is more pleased when Abel, a herdsman, presents God with the fattest portion of his flocks.

Enrag
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kills his brother.


Jude 1:11...and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward

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By the seduction of Balaam's reward they were committed to excesses of wickedness...

But who was Balaam?
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Here it is again:

Jude 1:11...and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward

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By the seduction of Balaam's reward they were committed to excesses of wickedness...

But who was Balaam?
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Here it is again:

Jude 1:11...and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward

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By the seduction of Balaam's reward they were committed to excesses of wickedness...

But who was Balaam?
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Balaam was a prophet of God - who with a little pressure turned evil:

from simplybible - the error of Balaam:

What Balaam did wrong

An unfaithful prophet. Balaam, by the powers granted him by God, had the opportunity to demonstrate the power of the true God against the deception of false gods and idols.

When Balaam pronounced a blessing or a curse, it worked. Balak said as much when he summoned Balaam to curse the Israelites (Numbers 22:6).

Balaam could have helped the Moabites and their neighbours to "turn to God from idols, to serve the living God" (1Thessalonians 1:9). However Balaam let God down badly.

A false prophet. Balaam was too easily led away from God’s truth into error, and he in turn led many others astray (Numbers 31:8,16, Revelation 2:14).
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Here it is again:

Jude 1:11...and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward

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By the seduction of Balaam's reward they were committed to excesses of wickedness...

But who was Balaam?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77387928


Balaam was a prophet of God - who with a little pressure turned evil:

from simplybible - the error of Balaam:

What Balaam did wrong

An unfaithful prophet. Balaam, by the powers granted him by God, had the opportunity to demonstrate the power of the true God against the deception of false gods and idols.

When Balaam pronounced a blessing or a curse, it worked. Balak said as much when he summoned Balaam to curse the Israelites (Numbers 22:6).

Balaam could have helped the Moabites and their neighbours to "turn to God from idols, to serve the living God" (1Thessalonians 1:9). However Balaam let God down badly.

A false prophet. Balaam was too easily led away from God’s truth into error, and he in turn led many others astray (Numbers 31:8,16, Revelation 2:14).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77397194


Balaam's sin was so glaring - we are reminded of it frequently throughout the bible:

God was angry with Balaam because he went to Balak (Numbers 22:5-7,22).

Moses said Balaam gave evil counsel that brought a plague on Israel (Numbers 31:14-16).

Balaam had wanted to curse the children of Israel, to be paid the hire (Deuteronomy 23:3-6).

Balaam was killed by the Israelites in the days of Joshua (Joshua 13:22).

The Lord recalled Balaam's sin in Joshua's farewell speech (Joshua 24:8-10)

Recalled again through the prophet Micah (Micah 6:5)
Re-visited in Nehemiah's time (Nehemiah 13:1-3).

Peter recalls how Balaam "loved the wages of unrighteousness" (2Peter 2:15-16).

Similarly Jude recalls how "for pay... the error of Balaam" was committed (Jude 1:11)

Jesus recalls how Balaam "Kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality" (Revelation 2:14)
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Here it is again:

Jude 1:11...and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward

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By the seduction of Balaam's reward they were committed to excesses of wickedness...

But who was Balaam?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77387928


Balaam was a prophet of God - who with a little pressure turned evil:

from simplybible - the error of Balaam:

What Balaam did wrong

An unfaithful prophet. Balaam, by the powers granted him by God, had the opportunity to demonstrate the power of the true God against the deception of false gods and idols.

When Balaam pronounced a blessing or a curse, it worked. Balak said as much when he summoned Balaam to curse the Israelites (Numbers 22:6).

Balaam could have helped the Moabites and their neighbours to "turn to God from idols, to serve the living God" (1Thessalonians 1:9). However Balaam let God down badly.

A false prophet. Balaam was too easily led away from God’s truth into error, and he in turn led many others astray (Numbers 31:8,16, Revelation 2:14).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77397194


Balaam's sin was so glaring - we are reminded of it frequently throughout the bible:

God was angry with Balaam because he went to Balak (Numbers 22:5-7,22).

Moses said Balaam gave evil counsel that brought a plague on Israel (Numbers 31:14-16).

Balaam had wanted to curse the children of Israel, to be paid the hire (Deuteronomy 23:3-6).

Balaam was killed by the Israelites in the days of Joshua (Joshua 13:22).

The Lord recalled Balaam's sin in Joshua's farewell speech (Joshua 24:8-10)

Recalled again through the prophet Micah (Micah 6:5)
Re-visited in Nehemiah's time (Nehemiah 13:1-3).

Peter recalls how Balaam "loved the wages of unrighteousness" (2Peter 2:15-16).

Similarly Jude recalls how "for pay... the error of Balaam" was committed (Jude 1:11)

Jesus recalls how Balaam "Kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality" (Revelation 2:14)
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There are many today who just like balaam - used God's word to profit from it; in churches, in business - and to gain the trust of others.

Paul warns christians about this in 2 Corinthians 2:17:

Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God.
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Jude 1:11...and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward

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By the seduction of Balaam's reward they were committed to excesses of wickedness...

But who was Balaam?
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Jude 1:11....and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

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His sin was the denial of the authority of Moses as God's chosen spokesman, and intrusion into the priest's office.