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Message Subject All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost completed at present
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Of course the prophecies are almost finished, they've been ongoing for almost 2,000 years. When the Apostle John wrote down his Revelation from Jesus Christ, he said these were things that must "shortly come to pass" (Revelation 1:1), so obviously they began right after he wrote the things down. The book of Revelation is a history of God's people down to our time and it also traces Christ's movements in the heavenly Sanctuary as He ministers for us (read the book of Hebrews).
Also, there are no dispensations. The woman of Revelation 12 represents the God's Old Testament people and also His New Testament people, the stars in her crown represent the twelve sons of Jacob/Israel as well as the twelve Apostles. It's the same woman. The Jews were supposed to accept their Messiah, but they didn't, they screwed up big time.
We are definitely at the end of the end ties.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641

Apparently shortly - is not our (human) shortly:
with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day
He will revive us after two days; He will raise us up on the third day,
2 Peter 3:8
Christ's Coming Judgment
…7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

Hosea 6:2
1"Come, let us return to the LORD. For He has torn us, but He will heal us; He has wounded us, but He will bandage us. 2"He will revive us after two days; He will raise us up on the third day,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63614350

Yeah? And sometimes "shortly" means just what it says. I'm sure John was not thinking in terms of the prophecies beginning after a thousand years and then all of them happening at the same time. The historical flow of the Bible prophecies traces the movements of Christianity and will take us to the exact place we should be at the exact time the specific event is happening; but most churches prefer to guess and assign "dispensations" and different requirements along the line, they look in the wrong place for fulfillment of the prophecies. However, it will come together eventually and people will choose for or against God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641

Oh, and how do you expect to interpret a prophecy correctly if you use II Peter 3:8? That verse has nothing to do with interpreting prophecy; imagine how confusing it would be, this thing could go on for many thousands of years while other texts imply imminence. Read the context of what Peter was talking about. No wonder people laugh at Christians.
 
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