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Message Subject All prophecies the bible says will happen in End Times are happening or almost completed at present
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Yes, if you read in Luke 21 prior to verse 24 Jesus is talking about 70 AD and the vengeance upon Jerusalem. So in that sense, I agree with you. However, in verse 24 He says "Jerusalem will be trodden down until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled."

This is being fulfilled now as the Gentiles have run Jerusalem since 70 AD.

After this verse in 30-31 He says you will know the season.

Although no man knows the day and hour, we will know the season.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37081477


Then I guess one should interpret the parable of the fig tree - when you see it's shoots and the shoots of other trees - then the season is approaching.

Would you say this has the same meaning?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64087189


Vs 25, 26, 27 talk about what will be happening. Vs 28 says when you see these things look up, for your redemption draws near. 29 says the next is a parable. 30 when the trees begin to bug and grow you know summer is at hand. 31 likewise when you see vs 25, 26, 27 come to pass you will know the kingdom of God is near.

So we will not know the day or the hour, but we will know when it is near. Ala not knowing the day, but knowing the season.

Vs 32 the generation that sees the things in verses 24-31 will not pass till it is all fulfilled.
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I agree up to a point.

However, when Jesus says - when you SEE ALL these things

He's referring to everything up to and including the AC in the holy place:

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore SHALL SEE the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye SHALL SEE ALL THESE THINGS, know that it is near, even at the doors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37081477


I know you are referring to antiochus ephiphanes.

Problem with this is THE antichrist of end times will control the entire earth. antiochus didn't.

He defiled the temple with zeus whom he wanted all to worship as the supreme God

THE antichrist of end times - declares he IS the supreme God. (Paul Thes.)

Dan 7:23 he "and shall devour the whole earth"

Additionally - THE AC's life will end in the battle of Armageddan with Jesus.
 
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