The 14 Characteristsics of Fascism | |
Theosophist User ID: 120430 United States 07/21/2006 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're 14 for 14. And the great unwashed masses haven't a clue. Since #'s 8 and 10 have been so slickly conjoined by the Amerikan fascist state, there's precious little chance of people in general waking up to reality until-- well, pardon the cliche, but until it's too late. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here. Faith without will is like a windmill without wind. |
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Chaiyah User ID: 117922 United States 07/21/2006 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As ye sow so shall ye reap. What goes around, comes around. Unless and until we halt these criminals from doing the harm they're doing, they're continuing to create harm that will indeed come back upon ourselves. But I don't see anybody arresting the NeoCons, Synarchists, Satanists and influence-peddlers for lawless and destructive behavior. Do you? |
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Flame On User ID: 24608 United States 07/21/2006 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't call many BS Flags, but this one I can't help. What can't you do here in America? You can start your own business, bad-mouth anyone you want, start your own religion, move into the mountains, sleep on the streets... anything you want America offers it. I started my own business, raised kids, drove SUV's, changed churches whenever I wanted, shopped where and when I wanted, traveled, here and there, truly the land of the free. Read the definition of fascism below and see for yourself if it describes the USA. fas·cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm) n. often Fascism A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. Oppressive, dictatorial control. [link to www.dictionary.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120431 United Kingdom 07/21/2006 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But I don't see anybody arresting the NeoCons, Synarchists, Satanists and influence-peddlers for lawless and destructive behavior. Quoting: Chaiyah 117922Do you? [link to home.comcast.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120330 Canada 07/21/2006 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America is a corperate fascist state. And the flag waving fools can't even see it. It is the ultimate joke! When "party propagandists" have popular radio and T.V shows, and people follow it like it is just a normal form of entertainment, you know you have a problem! Here are some visual proofs, and don't ignore these. DON'T IGNORE THIS PROOF. Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) over the course of his lifetime went from Socialism - he was editor of Avanti, a socialist newspaper - to the leadership of a new political movement called "fascism" Named after the "fasces", a symbol of bound sticks and an axe used as totem of power in ancient Rome. The fasces is a SYMBOL, and it exists in every Fascist country! These is the Fasces: [link to home.uchicago.edu] This symbol originates from the dictatorships of Roman times, and is the symbol of Fasism. It was also used by the Nazi's. This is the Fasces displayed prominantly in the American capitol building. [link to suzar.com] This is the Fasces in the house of representitives. [link to www.oilempire.us] This is the Fasces on an American dime. [link to www.prisonplanet.com] This is just the tip of the iceburg. But you have to ask yourself, if you doubt that you live in a fascist state, why this symbology? Is it an accident? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120330 Canada 07/21/2006 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't call many BS Flags, but this one I can't help. Quoting: Flame OnWhat can't you do here in America? You can start your own business, bad-mouth anyone you want, start your own religion, move into the mountains, sleep on the streets... anything you want America offers it. I started my own business, raised kids, drove SUV's, changed churches whenever I wanted, shopped where and when I wanted, traveled, here and there, truly the land of the free. Read the definition of fascism below and see for yourself if it describes the USA. fas·cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm) n. often Fascism A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. Oppressive, dictatorial control. [link to www.dictionary.com] This is not a correct definition at all, the true definition by Mousillini, the man who CREATED Fascism is this: - "Fascism should more properly be called ‘corporatism,' since it is the marriage of government and corporate power." This is the TRUE meaning of Fascism, and a direct quote! Don't ignore this! |
Flame On User ID: 24608 United States 07/21/2006 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America is a corperate fascist state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 120330And the flag waving fools can't even see it. Again I ask you.... What liberty are you denied in America? What has been required by dictator GWB? You can state your political opinions. Run for office yourself. Start a grassroots organization to boycott any damn thing you please. And even burn the Stars and Stripes.(just don't try that shit near me) What more do you want?? |
Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't call many BS Flags, but this one I can't help. What can't you do here in America? You can start your own business, bad-mouth anyone you want, start your own religion, move into the mountains, sleep on the streets... anything you want America offers it. I started my own business, raised kids, drove SUV's, changed churches whenever I wanted, shopped where and when I wanted, traveled, here and there, truly the land of the free. Read the definition of fascism below and see for yourself if it describes the USA. fas·cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm) n. often Fascism A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. Oppressive, dictatorial control. [link to www.dictionary.com] read the Patriot Act jerkoff “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and by the way you wouldnt know what America should truly be if it bit you on your ass “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120431 United Kingdom 07/21/2006 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) over the course of his lifetime went from Socialism - he was editor of Avanti, a socialist newspaper - to the leadership of a new political movement called "fascism" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 120330Named after the "fasces", a symbol of bound sticks and an axe used as totem of power in ancient Rome. The fasces is a SYMBOL, and it exists in every Fascist country! These is the Fasces: [link to home.uchicago.edu] This symbol originates from the dictatorships of Roman times, and is the symbol of Fasism. It was also used by the Nazi's. This is the Fasces displayed prominantly in the American capitol building. [link to suzar.com] This is the Fasces in the house of representitives. [link to www.oilempire.us] This is the Fasces on an American dime. [link to www.prisonplanet.com] This is just the tip of the iceburg. But you have to ask yourself, if you doubt that you live in a fascist state, why this symbology? Is it an accident? Just adding a little more to the post of Anonymous Coward 120330 because I found it interesting and thought to share. Fasces (the plural, almost a plurale tantum, of the Latin word fascis, meaning bundle) symbolise summary power and jurisdiction. The traditional Roman fasces consisted of a bundle of birch rods tied together with a red ribbon as a cylinder around an axe. Numerous governments and other authorities have used the image of the fasces as a symbol of power since the end of the Roman Empire. Italian fascism, which derives its name from the fasces, arguably used this symbolism the most in the 20th century. However, unlike for example the swastika, the fasces have avoided the stigma associated with fascist symbolism, and many authorities continue to display them. The fasces lictoriae ("bundles of the lictors") (in Italian, fascio littorio) symbolised power and authority (imperium) in ancient Rome. A corps of apparitores (subordinate officials) called lictors each carried fasces as a sort of staff of office before a magistrate, in a number corresponding to his rank, in public ceremonies and inspections, and bearers of fasces preceded praetors, propraetors, consuls, proconsuls, Masters of the Horse, dictators, and Caesars. During triumphs (public celebrations held in Rome after a military conquest) heroic soldiers — those who had suffered injury in battle — carried fasces in procession. Roman historians recalled that twelve lictors had ceremoniously accompanied the Etruscan kings of Rome in the distant past, and sought to account for the number and to provide etymologies for the name lictor. The symbolism of the fasces at one level suggested strength through unity. The bundle of rods bound together symbolizes the strength which a single rod lacks. The rods symbolized the state's power to punish delinquents. The axe represented the ultimate power of high justice to execute (decapitate), and has a long history in the eastern Mediterranean: see labrys, the Anatolian and Minoan double-headed axe. Traditionally, fasces carried within the Pomerium - the limits of the sacred inner City of Rome - had their axe blades removed. This signified that under normal political circumstances, the imperium-bearing magistrates did not have the judicial power of life and death. That power rested, within the city, with the people through the assemblies. Lictors attending to dictators, however, kept the axe blades even inside the Pomerium — a sign that a dictator had the ultimate power in his own hands. But in 48 BC, guards holding bladed fasces guided Isauricus to the tribunal of Marcus Caelius, and Isauricus used one to destroy Caelius's magisterial chair (sella curulis). [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Flame On User ID: 24608 United States 07/21/2006 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a correct definition at all, the true definition by Mousillini, the man who CREATED Fascism is this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 120330- "Fascism should more properly be called ‘corporatism,' since it is the marriage of government and corporate power." This is the TRUE meaning of Fascism, and a direct quote! Don't ignore this! It's hard to argue with someone who thinks their homemade definition is more accurate than the dictionary. Try this one from Merriam Webster’s online. [link to www.m-w.com] Main Entry: fas·cism Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si- Function: noun Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120330 Canada 07/21/2006 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Again I ask you.... Quoting: Flame OnWhat liberty are you denied in America? What has been required by dictator GWB? You can state your political opinions. Run for office yourself. Start a grassroots organization to boycott any damn thing you please. And even burn the Stars and Stripes.(just don't try that shit near me) What more do you want?? The liberty of a free election. The liberty to not be forced into the illuminati, freemason agenda for global control. You will find out soon enough what your "elected" leaders have in store for you, after they are done using you for their plans. But, I would also ask you... Why the facsist symbology in America? Do you think they just think a bundle of sticks and an axe is "pretty". Or does it have a meaning. Don't listen to me, by all means, do your own research... Enlighten yourself... Soon it will be to late... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120441 United Kingdom 07/21/2006 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it just a refusal to acknowledge that we ARE in a world wide war with islamofascism and hence individual liberties are going to be compromised? |
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Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No... He got it right...Fascism is Corporatism ..And Dude you ARE blind.. “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120330 Canada 07/21/2006 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard to argue with someone who thinks their homemade definition is more accurate than the dictionary. Quoting: Flame OnThe definition I gave you is a quote from the man that CREATED the movement called Fasicm. It is also hard to argue with someone who cannot realize the truth, because they are too brainwashed to even look into it. I understand though, it is fear that keeps you in this mindset. It was scary for me when I first learned about it too. |
Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and by the way you wouldnt know what America should truly be if it bit you on your ass Quoting: Flame OnYou havn't said what freedom you are being denied in America. Enlighten me...in case it bites me in the ass someday. How about the freedom from being taxed on property that you supposedly own? How about the freedom of possessing the arms of your choice to defend your self against tyranny , not state mandated ones? How about the freedom to not need a goddamn license/permit for every thing you do ? “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Flame On User ID: 24608 United States 07/21/2006 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No... He got it right...Fascism is Corporatism ..And Dude you ARE blind.. Quoting: TrenchIf I am blind, then help me see. I quoted 2 respectable dictionaries, and you say they are not accurate. I ask what freedoms you are lacking, and you call me blind. Do you think that GWB is forcing the dictionary writers to change the meaning of the word, so no one can see it coming? |
Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. you are refusing to see the definition of one the original men who brought about a fascist state..Maybe if Hitler rose from the dead and kicked you in the nuts and said "Open your eyes dumkoppf" then you'd get it.. “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Flame On User ID: 24608 United States 07/21/2006 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the freedom from being taxed on property that you supposedly own? Quoting: TrenchHow about the freedom of possessing the arms of your choice to defend your self against tyranny , not state mandated ones? How about the freedom to not need a goddamn license/permit for every thing you do ? Oh I see now. If you have to pay taxes. Can't have a fully automatic machine gun. And have to have a license to drive. You live in a fascist state. At least I am starting to understand the depth of your absurdity. |
Wizard's First Rule User ID: 119147 United States 07/21/2006 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not so fast. As much as I agree that there are some indications that the current regime is exhibiting signs of fascism, we are not a fascist state. Furthermore, "fasces" may be a common symbol in the US, but it existed well before fascism existed. America has always had a tendency to mimic Roman architecture and symbols. Please see this link: [link to en.wikipedia.org] "Fasces (the plural, almost a plurale tantum, of the Latin word fascis, meaning bundle) symbolise summary power and jurisdiction." "Numerous governments and other authorities have used the image of the fasces as a symbol of power since the end of the Roman Empire. Italian fascism, which derives its name from the fasces, arguably used this symbolism the most in the 20th century. However, unlike for example the swastika, the fasces have avoided the stigma associated with fascist symbolism, and many authorities continue to display them." "The symbolism of the fasces at one level suggested strength through unity. The bundle of rods bound together symbolizes the strength which a single rod lacks. The rods symbolized the state's power to punish delinquents. The axe represented the ultimate power of high justice to execute . . . " |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120330 Canada 07/21/2006 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about the freedom from being taxed on property that you supposedly own? Quoting: Flame OnHow about the freedom of possessing the arms of your choice to defend your self against tyranny , not state mandated ones? How about the freedom to not need a goddamn license/permit for every thing you do ? Oh I see now. If you have to pay taxes. Can't have a fully automatic machine gun. And have to have a license to drive. You live in a fascist state. At least I am starting to understand the depth of your absurdity. What I am saying is really this simple. Your freedoms will be gone soon. MOST of the entire world is run by a group of global elite, that dream of a world dictatorship over ALL men. If you cannot wrap your mind around it, then don't bother even trying. It is the real life matrix, and it is 100% true. But you can ignore it and go back to sleep now, no prob, just wave the flag three times and say: There's no place like home... There's no place like home... There's no place like home... |
Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Trench User ID: 120398 United States 07/21/2006 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ac has it right ...Nuff said “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 120431 United Kingdom 07/21/2006 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not so fast. As much as I agree that there are some indications that the current regime is exhibiting signs of fascism, we are not a fascist state. Furthermore, "fasces" may be a common symbol in the US, but it existed well before fascism existed. America has always had a tendency to mimic Roman architecture and symbols. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule 119147"The symbolism of the fasces at one level suggested strength through unity. The bundle of rods bound together symbolizes the strength which a single rod lacks. The rods symbolized the state's power to punish delinquents. The axe represented the ultimate power of high justice to execute . . . " But who are the delinquents and what do they represent? |
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Flame On User ID: 24608 United States 07/21/2006 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. you just stated the absurdity of your thinking by assuming what i meant..As long as you're fat and happy and got beer and televised sports youll let "The STATE" decree anything without the slightest resistance , cause you're a good little sheep arent you? Quoting: TrenchYou typed: "How about the freedom from being taxed on property that you supposedly own? How about the freedom of possessing the arms of your choice to defend your self against tyranny , not state mandated ones? How about the freedom to not need a goddamn license/permit for every thing you do ?" I just stated them back. Are you bi-polar along with these moments of delusion? Please try and keep up with the thread if you are going to play. Baa Baa |