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The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations

 
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Look at all the deniers grasping at straws. LOL!

Its vaccines you idiots!
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Pretty much. Although I believe it to be a combination of vaccines and GMOs. No matter his you slice it, the shit we are forced to consume is fucking us up.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
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The Amish also die very young and have a ridiculously high infant mortality rate... your point?
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Look at all the deniers grasping at straws. LOL!

Its vaccines you idiots!
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Pretty much. Although I believe it to be a combination of vaccines and GMOs. No matter his you slice it, the shit we are forced to consume is fucking us up.
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Totally agree!
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
the Amish don't do lots of stuff the general population does including tattoos, drugs, junk food, store bought synthetic room scents, cosmetics, screw alot of partners, sit in front of a tv, etc.

generally they are healthier. I do believe vaccines have crap in them we do not want and it is really stupid to dose up babies especially the heavy rates the gov wants too.

Also, injecting that crap right into the blood? Screw the us govt. not everything they do is in the individual's best interest.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
The overall ignorance level of this thread is severely high.

I did lots of actual research and yeah vaccines do cause autism. Period.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
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That is, simply, BULLSHIT. ABSOLUTE and BALD-FACED bullshit. On BOTH claims!!

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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
This thread is bullshit. The original nonsense was just an anti-vax'er lie.

"A study published in Pediatrics in 2011 concluded that the majority of Amish parents do, in fact, vaccinate their children. In addition, the study concluded that "The reasons that Amish parents resist immunizations mirror reasons that non-Amish parents resist immunizations."[9] Similarly, a 2006 study by researchers from the CDC, based on a survey sent to residents of the largest Amish community in Illinois, concluded that the Amish may not object to vaccines very often, and that when they do so it may not be for religious reasons."

That's from wiki, but there's ample evidence of autism and vaccinations in Amish communities.
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The overall ignorance level of this thread is severely high.

I did lots of actual research and yeah vaccines do cause autism. Period.
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Yea I have too it's just nuts around here.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
the Amish don't do lots of stuff the general population does including tattoos, drugs, junk food, store bought synthetic room scents, cosmetics, screw alot of partners, sit in front of a tv, etc.

generally they are healthier. I do believe vaccines have crap in them we do not want and it is really stupid to dose up babies especially the heavy rates the gov wants too.

Also, injecting that crap right into the blood? Screw the us govt. not everything they do is in the individual's best interest.
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We could take some lessons for sure
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You're right but they do get inbred deformities
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And boy oh boy can they play the banjo!!!!
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We have our perfect clinical study control group.


there it it cannot get better then that.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
the Amish don't do lots of stuff the general population does including tattoos, drugs, junk food, store bought synthetic room scents, cosmetics, screw alot of partners, sit in front of a tv, etc.

generally they are healthier. I do believe vaccines have crap in them we do not want and it is really stupid to dose up babies especially the heavy rates the gov wants too.

Also, injecting that crap right into the blood? Screw the us govt. not everything they do is in the individual's best interest.
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Obviously you don't live by any Amish. Believe me their grocery carts are fill with Little Debbie's, chips, cookies, you name it, and you should see the tracks home from the bars on Saturday nights, the only thing that keep them safe is that their horses know the way home.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Yea...well, they have a Mafia!

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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Another anti-vaccine lie rises zombie-like from the grave.

This moldy old fable was a lie promoted by not-a-scientist Dan Olmsted - former editor for United Press International, owned by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church, and now owner and editor of the loony anti-vaccine site - Age of Autism.
It has been refuted over and over yet the anti-vaccinationists will not let a good lie die and continue to resurrect it.
As others have posted earlier, this article by Seth Mnookin gives a general refutation:
[link to blogs.plos.org]

More details:
[link to autism-news-beat.com]
"But Olmsted never visited the cryptically-named Clinic for Special Children in Strasburg, where doctors treat dozens of children who exhibit autistic behavior."

"“The idea that the Amish do not vaccinate their children is untrue,” says Dr. Kevin Strauss, MD, a pediatrician at the CSC. “We run a weekly vaccination clinic and it’s very busy.”"

"Strauss also sees plenty of Amish children showing symptoms of autism. “Autism isn’t a diagnosis – it’s a description of behavior. We see autistic behaviors along with seizure disorders or mental retardation or a genetic disorder, where the autism is part of a more complicated clinical spectrum.” "

More information:
[link to pediatrics.aappublications.org]
Underimmunization in Ohio's Amish: Parental Fears Are a Greater Obstacle Than Access to Care

"RESULTS: ... Among the 359 respondents, 68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization, and 17% reported that some of their children had received at least 1 immunization. Only 14% of the parents reported that none of their children had received immunizations."

The largest measles outbreak this year in the Ohio Amish community, note the Measles MMR Vaccination Clinic all the Amish are going to:
[link to www.usatoday.com]
"Health officials believe the outbreak is slowing in Ohio thanks to vaccination clinics, ..."
"Most of its Amish were already vaccinated before the outbreak, McFadden said."


Gee, it looks like the anti-vaccine loons are lying again.
The reader should ask why it is that they seem to constantly lie and misrepresent the facts treating the readers as if they were ignorant fools.

Let the furious feeble begin to foam at the mouth but it doesn't change the fact that the Amish obviously do vaccinate and this trope is a blatant lie.


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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Except most Amish do vaccinate.

The Amish are glorified by a lot of people with different agendas who have no real knowledge about them.
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Amish are Dutch. What's with the black girl there? I call bullshit!
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Just a thought pregnant amish women don't get sonograms. I think there is a direct link between sonograms and autism.
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Amish are Dutch. What's with the black girl there? I call bullshit!
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Lmao
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Just a thought pregnant amish women don't get sonograms. I think there is a direct link between sonograms and autism.
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That's probably a good bet.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
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YOU IDIOT! Why did you announce it to the world! Now the pharmaceutical companies are going to target them with vaccines up the ass to eradicate this "aberration" of a community...

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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Look at all the deniers grasping at straws. LOL!

Its vaccines you idiots!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45257309


Pretty much. Although I believe it to be a combination of vaccines and GMOs. No matter his you slice it, the shit we are forced to consume is fucking us up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46720378


Totally agree!
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The numbers don't lie
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Look at all the deniers grasping at straws. LOL!

Its vaccines you idiots!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45257309


Pretty much. Although I believe it to be a combination of vaccines and GMOs. No matter his you slice it, the shit we are forced to consume is fucking us up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46720378


Totally agree!
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The numbers don't lie
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No they don't we've never been so unhealthy and our cancers and diseases have increased with the more GMOs we consume and the more vaccines we take.
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You vaccine tards sure are stoopid
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Pretty much. Although I believe it to be a combination of vaccines and GMOs. No matter his you slice it, the shit we are forced to consume is fucking us up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46720378


Totally agree!
 Quoting: TKC


The numbers don't lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63628775


No they don't we've never been so unhealthy and our cancers and diseases have increased with the more GMOs we consume and the more vaccines we take.
 Quoting: TKC


You don't eat seedless watermelon cuz it's a gmo???
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i wonder if they won't get ebola as well...
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Wow, lots of ignorance around.

Some Amish do:
Get vaccines
Get cancer (my neighbors father has it right now)
Have heart problems/disease (my other neighbors mom just died from heart issues, she was 80)
Eat GMO foods
Have children on the Autism spectrum. I know of one adult who is definitely on the spectrum!
Get sonograms. My neighbor learned that her last son most likely had Down's syndrome via a sonogram. She also delivered all of her babies in a hospital, and had C sections.

Didnt see this mentioned, but they also pay income and property taxes!
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
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They probably let the kids die at birth because it is an obvious deformality.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
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I lived in an Amish community and pursued becoming a member for 3 years before giving it up.

Amish do get autism. Some secretly get their children vaccinated also, but most do not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48713824


^^^THIS^^^

Some Amish have recently sought vaccinations as the measles outbreak that recently hit the midwest hit the Amish communities .
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Wow, lots of ignorance around.

Some Amish do:
Get vaccines
Get cancer (my neighbors father has it right now)
Have heart problems/disease (my other neighbors mom just died from heart issues, she was 80)
Eat GMO foods
Have children on the Autism spectrum. I know of one adult who is definitely on the spectrum!
Get sonograms. My neighbor learned that her last son most likely had Down's syndrome via a sonogram. She also delivered all of her babies in a hospital, and had C sections.

Didnt see this mentioned, but they also pay income and property taxes!
 Quoting: Canning Chick


and THAT^^^^^^


I know of Amish women who go to spas and gyms. They sneak to do it because their order is not permissive but they do it.
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Re: The Amish don't get autism and they don't get vaccinations
Another anti-vaccine lie rises zombie-like from the grave.

This moldy old fable was a lie promoted by not-a-scientist Dan Olmsted - former editor for United Press International, owned by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church, and now owner and editor of the loony anti-vaccine site - Age of Autism.
It has been refuted over and over yet the anti-vaccinationists will not let a good lie die and continue to resurrect it.
As others have posted earlier, this article by Seth Mnookin gives a general refutation:
[link to blogs.plos.org]

More details:
[link to autism-news-beat.com]
"But Olmsted never visited the cryptically-named Clinic for Special Children in Strasburg, where doctors treat dozens of children who exhibit autistic behavior."

"“The idea that the Amish do not vaccinate their children is untrue,” says Dr. Kevin Strauss, MD, a pediatrician at the CSC. “We run a weekly vaccination clinic and it’s very busy.”"

"Strauss also sees plenty of Amish children showing symptoms of autism. “Autism isn’t a diagnosis – it’s a description of behavior. We see autistic behaviors along with seizure disorders or mental retardation or a genetic disorder, where the autism is part of a more complicated clinical spectrum.” "

More information:
[link to pediatrics.aappublications.org]
Underimmunization in Ohio's Amish: Parental Fears Are a Greater Obstacle Than Access to Care

"RESULTS: ... Among the 359 respondents, 68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization, and 17% reported that some of their children had received at least 1 immunization. Only 14% of the parents reported that none of their children had received immunizations."

The largest measles outbreak this year in the Ohio Amish community, note the Measles MMR Vaccination Clinic all the Amish are going to:
[link to www.usatoday.com]
"Health officials believe the outbreak is slowing in Ohio thanks to vaccination clinics, ..."
"Most of its Amish were already vaccinated before the outbreak, McFadden said."


Gee, it looks like the anti-vaccine loons are lying again.
The reader should ask why it is that they seem to constantly lie and misrepresent the facts treating the readers as if they were ignorant fools.

Let the furious feeble begin to foam at the mouth but it doesn't change the fact that the Amish obviously do vaccinate and this trope is a blatant lie.


R.
kOOks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



Can they prove whether or not they were following the CDC schedule? Do their 2 month old infants go in for 6 shots at one time?

Any level headed parent has to question the risk of 6 shots at once, since there is no way to know which one could cause the reaction, if a reaction takes place. Sadly, it is too late for some.





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