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DALLAS (AP) -- They drew his blood, put tubes down his throat and wiped up his diarrhea. They analyzed his urine and wiped saliva from his lips, even after he had lost consciousness.

About 70 staff members at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital were involved in the care of Thomas Eric Duncan after he was hospitalized, including a nurse now being treated for the same Ebola virus that killed the Liberian man who was visiting Dallas, according to medical records his family provided to The Associated Press.

Less than 50%

If there was some sort of break down in protocol procedures for handling and all 70 have it. Game over for Dallas.
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ahhh
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My thoughts exactly. I hope they have them all under watch and not allowed to mingle with the general populous until after a 21 day window!
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That hospital is going to be like the Superdome after Katrina.
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That hospital is going to be like the Superdome after Katrina.
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That's an eerie though. With all this going on I wonder how many cases are truly out there. Official counts always lag behind the real numbers. Such like the numbers in W. Africa. They also admit they don't have an accurate count for W. Africa.
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pinned.

thank you for the link and information
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Ok there is no way our current policy for dealing with ebola is sustainable.

What is the CDC going to do? quarantine 70 hospital workers, the apartment complexes, the indirect contacts, the vehicles and not to mention the planes and passengers of every ebola patient that makes it to America like Duncan did? Plus all the other people/resources/hazmat crews that get called out to deal with this...

The need to stop anyone coming from west africa period from entering the United States, whether they are suspected of having ebola or not. Period.
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it's too late.
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At the current rate of infection, within 3 years more than a trillion people will have died of ebola.
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70 staffers treated Mr. Duncan... A nurse has tested positive, so far....


How many contacts have those 70 persons had while they were carrying virus contagion? Thousands? The staff were wearing gowns, cotton masks, one pair of gloves and that's about it. How many shoes walked in their footsteps?


There is a post on the Pandemic Flu board about the Hazmat dress undress procedure. Look at it....

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We need to synchronise putting the PPE on with other team members, because if one is slower than the rest we end up waiting and baking in the sun. We have a dresser to make sure we are completely covered, or we work in pairs and check each other.

First on are gloves and a jumpsuit. Then a second pair of gloves, a thick duckbill mask, a hood, and an apron that is tied by the dresser so we can untie it with one pull. Then on go the goggles with a generous drizzle of antifogging spray, a final check in the mirror and a final check with each other.

The checking does not stop there, as we must ensure during our time in the high-risk area that we are still covered, that a mask has not slipped, or that a piece of skin has not been exposed. If that happens, we leave the area immediately.


A minimum of five minutes is needed to undress. We have two tents, where the undressers and sprayers need to be on the ball. The urge to just pull the suit off is strong, but we wait. First, the chlorine spray to the hands. Then, feet apart, arms in the air, we are sprayed from head to toe, first the front, then the back. We wash our hands in 0.5% chlorine. Off come the first set of gloves.

We wash our hands again. Off comes the apron and hopefully it was tied perfectly, as we have to blindly reach around to release the knot; we pull it over our heads. Into the chlorine soak it goes. We wash our hands.

Next go the goggles. We bend over, close our eyes and gently remove them, dunk them three times in the strong chlorine-filled bucket, and then place them in water. We wash our hands.

The hood comes off next. Once again, we bend over, closing our eyes to avoid contamination and dispose of the hood in the garbage. We wash our hands.

Next, the removal of our heavy PPE. Moving slowly – we do everything slowly here – we carefully expose the zipper, hidden under a taped-down flap. We wash our hands. Blindly, we have to find the zipper, as our undressers and sprayers guide us. We wash our hands.

As we shimmy out of our PPE, we are soaked to the bone in sweat, but it feels great. This is the hardest part: to ease off the jumpsuit while kicking your legs back, at the same time standing on it so it doesn’t fly away from you. It’s a balancing act. The sprayer sprays the entire jumpsuit with a stronger chlorine solution and we put it in the garbage. We wash our hands.

Our heavy-duty filtration mask is next. I close my eyes and hope it doesn’t catch in my ponytail. We wash our hands.

The last pair of gloves comes off. Our boots are sprayed from all angles and we have to balance on one foot to cross the line from high risk to low risk. We wash our hands and we are done, stripped down to our scrubs, soaked with sweat.



Just like the PPE and infection control procedures they are using in Dallas, right Dr. Frieden?

Right???




Just so you understand what is required to possibly not contract the virus and put self and others in danger as a vector for its trasnmission
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At the current rate of infection, within 3 years more than a trillion people will have died of ebola.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3516822


I wonder what the roi numbers are for 70
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it's too late.
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You are correct! The United States Govt, whose primary function is to protect America & it's citizens has failed to do it's job!

All elected federal politicians have basically fucked America!

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it's too late.
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My thoughts as well looks like MERS might be added to the mix shortly as people return from hajj so busy looking for ebola possability of missing Mers cases
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they were

it's not may when it hits national news
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Time will tell.

My Ebola doom boner was in too much pain the last week.

When there are multiple people positive in several cities, my doom boner will be hella throbbing.
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So the hospital is under "diversion", meaning they are not taking new patients into the ER, rather diverting them to other hospitals. The doc on Saturdays presser stated that they are not taking new patients, but are caring for those already there.

Some speculation that they may be short staffed, reasonable considering the ER staff on duty when Duncan was admitted are probably those 18 people currently being monitored by CDC.

My question is this: are they releasing anyone? Is the entire hospital under quarantine at this point? When the reporter asked the doc if the nurse was one of those being monitored, he stammered around before answering that he could not answer that question due to patient privacy issues. In other words, NO. Don't panic the people by admitting that the newly infected wasn't even one of those being monitored.
Or, YES. But don't admit that for fear of lawsuits from having a potentially infected nurse seeing patients.

What a total clusterfuck. Put me in charge of this shit. I don't want to do it, I have no experience with infectious diseases, but I GUARANTEE I can do a better job than these fucking morons.
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Well Fuck why didn't they just French kiss him and fuck him in the ass while they were at it........god damnahhh

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So the hospital is under "diversion", meaning they are not taking new patients into the ER, rather diverting them to other hospitals. The doc on Saturdays presser stated that they are not taking new patients, but are caring for those already there.

Some speculation that they may be short staffed, reasonable considering the ER staff on duty when Duncan was admitted are probably those 18 people currently being monitored by CDC.

My question is this: are they releasing anyone? Is the entire hospital under quarantine at this point? When the reporter asked the doc if the nurse was one of those being monitored, he stammered around before answering that he could not answer that question due to patient privacy issues. In other words, NO. Don't panic the people by admitting that the newly infected wasn't even one of those being monitored.
Or, YES. But don't admit that for fear of lawsuits from having a potentially infected nurse seeing patients.

What a total clusterfuck. Put me in charge of this shit. I don't want to do it, I have no experience with infectious diseases, but I GUARANTEE I can do a better job than these fucking morons.
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We are monitoring media reports that Dallas Ebola victim Nina Pham has received a blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Dr. Kent Brantly. We will update when we have more information. - Jillian

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ahhh
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My thoughts exactly. I hope they have them all under watch and not allowed to mingle with the general populous until after a 21 day window!
 Quoting: Klasikatica


heard from the Duncan family lately?
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We are monitoring media reports that Dallas Ebola victim Nina Pham has received a blood transfusion from Ebola survivor Dr. Kent Brantly. We will update when we have more information. - Jillian

[link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: Lex Talionis


My gosh! He just gave blood to the guy in Nebraska a couple days ago. I wonder how often, and how much he can give each time?
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DALLAS (AP) -- They drew his blood, put tubes down his throat and wiped up his diarrhea. They analyzed his urine and wiped saliva from his lips, even after he had lost consciousness.

About 70 staff members at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital were involved in the care of Thomas Eric Duncan after he was hospitalized, including a nurse now being treated for the same Ebola virus that killed the Liberian man who was visiting Dallas, according to medical records his family provided to The Associated Press.

Less than 50%

If there was some sort of break down in protocol procedures for handling and all 70 have it. Game over for Dallas.
 Quoting: Klasikatica


Everyone who treated him should have been kept in an isolated area for 21 days after his death.
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ahhh
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My thoughts exactly. I hope they have them all under watch and not allowed to mingle with the general populous until after a 21 day window!
 Quoting: Klasikatica


heard from the Duncan family lately?
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Yeah! Wonder how that "law suit" is coming along?
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70 staffers treated Mr. Duncan... A nurse has tested positive, so far....


How many contacts have those 70 persons had while they were carrying virus contagion? Thousands? The staff were wearing gowns, cotton masks, one pair of gloves and that's about it. How many shoes walked in their footsteps?


There is a post on the Pandemic Flu board about the Hazmat dress undress procedure. Look at it....

Quote:
We need to synchronise putting the PPE on with other team members, because if one is slower than the rest we end up waiting and baking in the sun. We have a dresser to make sure we are completely covered, or we work in pairs and check each other.

First on are gloves and a jumpsuit. Then a second pair of gloves, a thick duckbill mask, a hood, and an apron that is tied by the dresser so we can untie it with one pull. Then on go the goggles with a generous drizzle of antifogging spray, a final check in the mirror and a final check with each other.

The checking does not stop there, as we must ensure during our time in the high-risk area that we are still covered, that a mask has not slipped, or that a piece of skin has not been exposed. If that happens, we leave the area immediately.


A minimum of five minutes is needed to undress. We have two tents, where the undressers and sprayers need to be on the ball. The urge to just pull the suit off is strong, but we wait. First, the chlorine spray to the hands. Then, feet apart, arms in the air, we are sprayed from head to toe, first the front, then the back. We wash our hands in 0.5% chlorine. Off come the first set of gloves.

We wash our hands again. Off comes the apron and hopefully it was tied perfectly, as we have to blindly reach around to release the knot; we pull it over our heads. Into the chlorine soak it goes. We wash our hands.

Next go the goggles. We bend over, close our eyes and gently remove them, dunk them three times in the strong chlorine-filled bucket, and then place them in water. We wash our hands.

The hood comes off next. Once again, we bend over, closing our eyes to avoid contamination and dispose of the hood in the garbage. We wash our hands.

Next, the removal of our heavy PPE. Moving slowly – we do everything slowly here – we carefully expose the zipper, hidden under a taped-down flap. We wash our hands. Blindly, we have to find the zipper, as our undressers and sprayers guide us. We wash our hands.

As we shimmy out of our PPE, we are soaked to the bone in sweat, but it feels great. This is the hardest part: to ease off the jumpsuit while kicking your legs back, at the same time standing on it so it doesn’t fly away from you. It’s a balancing act. The sprayer sprays the entire jumpsuit with a stronger chlorine solution and we put it in the garbage. We wash our hands.

Our heavy-duty filtration mask is next. I close my eyes and hope it doesn’t catch in my ponytail. We wash our hands.

The last pair of gloves comes off. Our boots are sprayed from all angles and we have to balance on one foot to cross the line from high risk to low risk. We wash our hands and we are done, stripped down to our scrubs, soaked with sweat.



Just like the PPE and infection control procedures they are using in Dallas, right Dr. Frieden?

Right???




Just so you understand what is required to possibly not contract the virus and put self and others in danger as a vector for its trasnmission
 Quoting: Lester 63692968


God bless our medical personnel. How long before this is standard op for those dealing with any flu like symptons.
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At the current rate of infection, within 3 years more than a trillion people will have died of ebola.
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agree

sobering isnt it
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They cannot quarantine them all together - that is the problem - and with Duncans family maybe the woman gets it but not the kids but if you keep them together - whoops.
Not a good situation.
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70 staffers treated Mr. Duncan... A nurse has tested positive, so far....


How many contacts have those 70 persons had while they were carrying virus contagion? Thousands? The staff were wearing gowns, cotton masks, one pair of gloves and that's about it. How many shoes walked in their footsteps?


There is a post on the Pandemic Flu board about the Hazmat dress undress procedure. Look at it....

Quote:
We need to synchronise putting the PPE on with other team members, because if one is slower than the rest we end up waiting and baking in the sun. We have a dresser to make sure we are completely covered, or we work in pairs and check each other.

First on are gloves and a jumpsuit. Then a second pair of gloves, a thick duckbill mask, a hood, and an apron that is tied by the dresser so we can untie it with one pull. Then on go the goggles with a generous drizzle of antifogging spray, a final check in the mirror and a final check with each other.

The checking does not stop there, as we must ensure during our time in the high-risk area that we are still covered, that a mask has not slipped, or that a piece of skin has not been exposed. If that happens, we leave the area immediately.


A minimum of five minutes is needed to undress. We have two tents, where the undressers and sprayers need to be on the ball. The urge to just pull the suit off is strong, but we wait. First, the chlorine spray to the hands. Then, feet apart, arms in the air, we are sprayed from head to toe, first the front, then the back. We wash our hands in 0.5% chlorine. Off come the first set of gloves.

We wash our hands again. Off comes the apron and hopefully it was tied perfectly, as we have to blindly reach around to release the knot; we pull it over our heads. Into the chlorine soak it goes. We wash our hands.

Next go the goggles. We bend over, close our eyes and gently remove them, dunk them three times in the strong chlorine-filled bucket, and then place them in water. We wash our hands.

The hood comes off next. Once again, we bend over, closing our eyes to avoid contamination and dispose of the hood in the garbage. We wash our hands.

Next, the removal of our heavy PPE. Moving slowly – we do everything slowly here – we carefully expose the zipper, hidden under a taped-down flap. We wash our hands. Blindly, we have to find the zipper, as our undressers and sprayers guide us. We wash our hands.

As we shimmy out of our PPE, we are soaked to the bone in sweat, but it feels great. This is the hardest part: to ease off the jumpsuit while kicking your legs back, at the same time standing on it so it doesn’t fly away from you. It’s a balancing act. The sprayer sprays the entire jumpsuit with a stronger chlorine solution and we put it in the garbage. We wash our hands.

Our heavy-duty filtration mask is next. I close my eyes and hope it doesn’t catch in my ponytail. We wash our hands.

The last pair of gloves comes off. Our boots are sprayed from all angles and we have to balance on one foot to cross the line from high risk to low risk. We wash our hands and we are done, stripped down to our scrubs, soaked with sweat.



Just like the PPE and infection control procedures they are using in Dallas, right Dr. Frieden?

Right???




Just so you understand what is required to possibly not contract the virus and put self and others in danger as a vector for its trasnmission
 Quoting: Lester 63692968


God bless our medical personnel. How long before this is standard op for those dealing with any flu like symptons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62073245

cant be done
game over
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They probably should have sent him to one of the 4 high-level biocontainment patient care centers.
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ahhh
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My thoughts exactly. I hope they have them all under watch and not allowed to mingle with the general populous until after a 21 day window!
 Quoting: Klasikatica


heard from the Duncan family lately?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49509890


Nope and you won't either. They are sick with it! During the press conf a reporter asked & the answer given was "they are not out of the woods yet"!

If they weren't sick they would have had them paraded in fron of camera's. But let's not panic the people!
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They cannot quarantine them all together - that is the problem - and with Duncans family maybe the woman gets it but not the kids but if you keep them together - whoops.
Not a good situation.
 Quoting: Little bird


where is the Duncan Family?

how come Jess Jackson isnt hanging out
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They probably should have sent him to one of the 4 high-level biocontainment patient care centers.
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oops





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