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Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today

 
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Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
I work in a fairly large regional hospital in NW Louisiana.

I have direct contact with surgical patients.

The *minute* I clocked in & donned my head/shoe covers & went to check the running board for my assignment, I was intercepted by my Educator before I ever got to the Central Nurses' Station (running Board).

I was handed a 3 page document & asked to sign for it.

We generally only have to sign policy changes, disciplinary actions, inservices etc.

I signed & took the 3 page document.

I visually scanned it, but havent thoroughly read it yet.

Driving home 8 1/2+ hrs later... I caught myself rubbing my eyes ~ TWICE!

I'm *trained* in Sterile Technique - it's WHAT I *DO* - but I'm also accustomed to relaxing when I'm not required to be sterile ~ ie, not in surgery.

I failed this evening, driving home.
I may have contaminated myself & my family, & now I cannot trust *even myself!*

My back just SHIVERED.





Here we Go.

If I can't stay sterile during everyday Life...nobody can!



*IT'S ON!*

EVERYWHERE!
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
So what you're essentially saying is,

You've got the Ebola?
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
LOL you're so fucked.

Sorry bro, someone had to say it.
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OMG, not the Ebolas. wtfdoom
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
Sounds like they are trying to limit liability.
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Dead Man Walkin!! ahhh
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
wait why don't you wash your hands when you leave the hospital???
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pics or it didnt happen
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Link?
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Or fiction.
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
I work in a fairly large regional hospital in NW Louisiana.

I have direct contact with surgical patients.

The *minute* I clocked in & donned my head/shoe covers & went to check the running board for my assignment, I was intercepted by my Educator before I ever got to the Central Nurses' Station (running Board).

I was handed a 3 page document & asked to sign for it.

We generally only have to sign policy changes, disciplinary actions, inservices etc.

I signed & took the 3 page document.

I visually scanned it, but havent thoroughly read it yet.

Driving home 8 1/2+ hrs later... I caught myself rubbing my eyes ~ TWICE!

I'm *trained* in Sterile Technique - it's WHAT I *DO* - but I'm also accustomed to relaxing when I'm not required to be sterile ~ ie, not in surgery.

I failed this evening, driving home.
I may have contaminated myself & my family, & now I cannot trust *even myself!*

If I can't stay sterile during everyday Life...nobody can!
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'


What requirements did it spell out for staying sterile during everyday life?
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I have a pic a friend sent me who is a PA in an emergency room. They got their biohazard gear today and a protocol book for handling Ebola. When I get to where I can load the pics I will do so. It will probably be tomorrow morning.
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
Sounds like they are trying to limit liability.
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Yep. It's a very "generic" document. It doesn't even list the appropriate personnel to contact in case of a problem. lol

Dead Man Walkin!! ahhh
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tounge

wait why don't you wash your hands when you leave the hospital???
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I do, and I don't touch anything til I get to my car.

pics or it didnt happen
 Quoting: nativemd

Pics of the document or pics of me rubbing my eyes?

What requirements did it spell out for staying sterile during everyday life?
 Quoting: Moonchild


It doesn't. It's strictly about the hospital & preocedures while there.

I have a pic a friend sent me who is a PA in an emergency room. They got their biohazard gear today and a protocol book for handling Ebola. When I get to where I can load the pics I will do so. It will probably be tomorrow morning.
 Quoting: Threelittlelambs


That'd be great. I'll ask around today, see if our ER got any better info than we did. We basically got nothing we didn't already know.

I heard one of our charge nurses say she'll take an extended leave of absence if it gets here.

Another (higher up) then said "They won't have anybody working for them!" And I could tell she was including herself in that.

It's gonna be interesting to see how all this plays out.
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i can tell you how it all works out same thing is happening at my wifes hospital

when it hits they all quit

you all are on your fucking own.

better get ready.
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
Hi if you can post a pic,don't scan it. The pic will reduce the quality enough that it can't be traced. Every laser printer has a coded signature. Odd as that sounds. You can post pics anon @ contagiontracker.com and it doesn't log ip's.
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
Sounds like AIDS/HIV hysteria in 80s when some medical personnel refused to treat HIV patients. Are you sure you want to be part of such travesty?
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Sounds like AIDS/HIV hysteria in 80s when some medical personnel refused to treat HIV patients. Are you sure you want to be part of such travesty?
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Of course I don't "want" to be part of any of this.
What would you have me do - show up to man a surgical dep't on my own while everyone else is some place where they feel safe?

Two of my supervisors basically said "Ha! Fuck that!" in a conversation I was part of. I didn't overhear it. I was in the conversation.

A CRNA literally said they'd be bugging out, another nurse said it's time to buy some land in the country (I didn't tell her it's too late for that..poor gal)

When it comes right down to it, Friend, nobody is obligated to die for another. Nobody is obligated to bring disease home to their children or other loved ones.

It is what it is.
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Sounds like AIDS/HIV hysteria in 80s when some medical personnel refused to treat HIV patients. Are you sure you want to be part of such travesty?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48077104


Aids is actually very hard to transmit, in fact, just avoiding some rather deviant / degenerate behavior patterns pretty much eliminates the contagion threat outside of edge cases.

We have ample evidence Ebola is pretty easy to transmit and kills rapidly. Behavior patterns contribute MUCH less to transmission. Even clean living humans can be infected.

Thus, they are completely reasonable in not wanting to be around Ebola.
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Sounds like AIDS/HIV hysteria in 80s when some medical personnel refused to treat HIV patients. Are you sure you want to be part of such travesty?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48077104


Aids is actually very hard to transmit, in fact, just avoiding some rather deviant / degenerate behavior patterns pretty much eliminates the contagion threat outside of edge cases.

We have ample evidence Ebola is pretty easy to transmit and kills rapidly. Behavior patterns contribute MUCH less to transmission. Even clean living humans can be infected.

Thus, they are completely reasonable in not wanting to be around Ebola.
 Quoting: Fingulas


My brother and Uncle both died of HIV/AIDS. They received the virus via their Hemophilia medication.

The clear difference of HIV vs Ebola is you can live a very long life with HIV-but when time is up the end is horrible.
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
My sister just received an email from the hospital she works for also, basically stating they have already sent all the information once before but here it is again. All it is is a link to the CDC in what symptoms to look for. She sent an email to her boss asking if there would be any training on dealing with the patients including the biohazard clothing, etc. and they just said it was in the email, which it wasn't. She thinks they are just covering their own asses. They also have had one Ebola scare, test came back negative, but they said they are expecting more. So why not train the nurses and nurse assistants in how to protect themselves? We are in Idaho.
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wait why don't you wash your hands
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Now we have Ebola AND dick mittens to worry about
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My wife works in healthcare, inner city, massive ethnic population (unfortunately). I have direct access to any info available to her and will post at GLP if I get anything worthwhile. I've spotted quite a few hospital/clinical workers posting on GLP, would it be a good idea for someone to start a thread devoted to containing any genuine first hand medical info? That way it's all in one place and easy to access.
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You are NEVER supposed to sign ANYTHING before reading it. Should have read it first or declined to sign it until you had time to do so.!
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American hospitals are not some kind of altruistic charity organizations - they are, for the most part, incredible profit centers for insurance companies and their investors.
We really need to lose the "dedicated to saving humanity" BS and see them as they actually are.
Nurses and doctors are just expendable losses - spokes in the wheel.
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My wife works in healthcare, inner city, massive ethnic population (unfortunately). I have direct access to any info available to her and will post at GLP if I get anything worthwhile. I've spotted quite a few hospital/clinical workers posting on GLP, would it be a good idea for someone to start a thread devoted to containing any genuine first hand medical info? That way it's all in one place and easy to access.
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Got NFO's? Ill do my best to send stuff I find over here also:

Thread: DEDICATED Medical Workers Thread on EBOLA
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would it be a good idea for someone to start a thread devoted to containing any genuine first hand medical info? That way it's all in one place and easy to access.
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Great idea, wrong site. Far too many hit and run asshole
posters, mostly anonymous, OR, thread hijackers who slam good intel.

But without anonymous posters, there would be no one to ban and no IPs to block, which is the strategy used to drive paying subscriptions............

And around and around we go....
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You are NEVER supposed to sign ANYTHING before reading it. Should have read it first or declined to sign it until you had time to do so.!
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He signed that he received it, like when you sign for a package. It wasn't a contract.

Last Edited by Vision Thing on 10/14/2014 09:07 AM
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Re: Aaaand I got handed/had to sign for an "EBOLA PROTOCOL PACKET" at work today
Thank you for your experience.....

I too am in healthcare and I totally agree... it is so easy to do ONE THING like this in healthcare and your life and family are at risk.

Everyone needs to realize just how easy this is.

It can also be a simple slip in removing PPE.

I work in a fairly large regional hospital in NW Louisiana.

I have direct contact with surgical patients.

The *minute* I clocked in & donned my head/shoe covers & went to check the running board for my assignment, I was intercepted by my Educator before I ever got to the Central Nurses' Station (running Board).

I was handed a 3 page document & asked to sign for it.

We generally only have to sign policy changes, disciplinary actions, inservices etc.

I signed & took the 3 page document.

I visually scanned it, but havent thoroughly read it yet.

Driving home 8 1/2+ hrs later... I caught myself rubbing my eyes ~ TWICE!

I'm *trained* in Sterile Technique - it's WHAT I *DO* - but I'm also accustomed to relaxing when I'm not required to be sterile ~ ie, not in surgery.

I failed this evening, driving home.
I may have contaminated myself & my family, & now I cannot trust *even myself!*

My back just SHIVERED.





Here we Go.

If I can't stay sterile during everyday Life...nobody can!



*IT'S ON!*

EVERYWHERE!
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'
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You are NEVER supposed to sign ANYTHING before reading it. Should have read it first or declined to sign it until you had time to do so.!
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He signed that he received it, like when you sign for a package. It wasn't a contract.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


I programmed employee info for healthcare HR in the past and that above advice to decline it is gonna cost you the job. Like it or not CE and policy updates are not optional.
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Thanks for keeping us informed. I truly believe those who are on the front lines like our health care providers are our only hope in knowing really what is going on. Stay safe my friend. hf
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