Ebola Executive Order

Got a link?

OK.

But EOs are enforceable by force.


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The link is in the original post. [link to www.whitehouse.gov]



Last Edited by Beezy on 10/17/2014 10:55 AM

I guess I have a bunch of research to do because I always thought that the National Guard was under the command of the individual State's Governors. Was I wrong this whole time or is that something else that Ohbunghole changed with his "pen & a phone"?

Fuck no! The Dicktaster n Thief got rid of them because they wwouldn't kiss his cum dumpster & agree to follow UNConstitutional orders.

your constitution of the USA, art 2 the executive says:
"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;...."

Selective service is that card that every male US citizen is legally required to fill out when they turn 18.

This new medical selective service is a plan to have all US medical personnel be required to register in the event they decide to have a medical draft

units will be activated to assist with Operation United Assistance

new mission
[link to www.africom.mil]

[link to www.defense.gov]

similar to the haiti earthquake assistance
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The response included personnel from all branches of the military.[3] The U.S. Navy listed its resources in the area on 19 January as "17 ships, 48 helicopters and 12 fixed-wing aircraft" in addition to 10,000 sailors and Marines.[4] By 26 January, the U.S. military had 17,000 personnel in and around Haiti.[5] Between the beginning of refief efforts and 18 February the US Air Force had delivered nearly 6,000 support members and 19 million pounds of cargo while evacuating 15,000 American citizens and conducted aeromedical evacuations for 223 critical Haitian patients.[6]

That isn't exactly what it says.

It sounds like you think if they already have an essential duty they can't be called up.

According to the quote below he can call the Coast Guard when it is not acting in service to the Navy. He is giving authorization to call up any and all persons in the Coast Guard, Coast Guard reserves, and prior Coast Guard (this is the individual ready reserve). It does sound like it is only the Coast guard.

The part about essential means that people with certain job classes will be called up. Whatever job class they deem essential. I read somewhere, and can't remember where, that the essential job classes included engineers and communications specialist.



"I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, under their respective jurisdictions, to order to active duty any units, and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve as a unit of the Selected Reserve, or any member in the Individual Ready Reserve mobilization category and designated as essential under regulations prescribed by the Secretary concerned, and to terminate the service of those units and members ordered to active duty. "

The Individual ready reserve are people who have already gotten out. Basically you serve 4 years active, then you are on IRR for 4 more

I read this that he is talking to two people, the Secretary of Defense for all other units and the Secretary of HS for Coast Guard.

He is giving both secretaries the authority to call up the Coast Guard


"I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard "

Let me just also say that the highlighted term "consequence management" sounds like that may be us. The outbreak here is a consequence of the outbreak in Africa and needs to be managed

"I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation United Assistance, which is providing support to civilian-led humanitarian assistance and consequence management support related to the Ebola virus disease outbreak in West Africa."

Gov. Perry speaking live: [link to www.texastribune.org]

State or President can call up the guard. If under federal direction, Posse Comitatus applies.


"The Effect of the Posse Comitatus Act

Does not apply to the Coast Guard, which is part of the Department of Transportation and is both an armed force and a law enforcement agency with police powers.

Does not apply to the National Guard in its role as state troops on state active duty under the command of the respective governors.

May not apply to the National Guard (qua militia) even when it is called to federal active duty. The Posse Comitatus Act contains no restrictions on the use of the federalized militia as it did on the regular Army.9 It is commonly believed, however, that National Guard units and personnel come under the Posse Comitatus Act when they are on federal active duty, and this interpretation is followed today."

[link to usacac.army.mil]


KEY EXCEPTIONS TO THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT
A summary of key exceptions to the Posse Comitatus Act follows:
• National Guard forces operating under the state authority of Title 32 (i.e., under state rather than federal service) are exempt from Posse Comitatus Act restrictions.
• Pursuant to the presidential power to quell domestic violence, federal troops are expressly exempt from the prohibitions of Posse Comitatus Act, and this exemption applies equally to active-duty military and federalized National Guard troops.4
• Aerial photographic and visual search and surveillance by mili- tary personnel were found not to violate the Posse Comitatus Act.
• Congress created a “drug exception” to the Posse Comitatus Act. Under recent legislation, the Congress authorized the Secretary of Defense to make available any military equipment and per- sonnel necessary for operation of said equipment for law enforcement purposes. Thus, the Army can provide equipment, training, and expert military advice to civilian law enforcement agencies as part of the total effort in the “war on drugs.”
• Use of a member of the Judge Advocate Corps as a special assis- tant prosecutor, while retaining his dual role in participating in the investigation, presentation to the grand jury, and prosecu- tion, did not violate Posse Comitatus Act.
• The Coast Guard is exempt from Posse Comitatus Act during peacetime.
• Although brought under the Act through DoD regulation, described above, the Navy may assist the Coast Guard in pursuit, search, and seizure of vessels suspected of involvement in drug trafficking.



[link to www.rand.org]

Nowhere in the order does it say this^^!!! It is very broad and generalized, meaning they can call them up and send them wherever this "Operation United Assistance" needs them. Could be Texas, could be Liberia, could be your uncle's house to destroy his contaminated tomato plants.

This is a bit scary really. Especially if you consider the possible chaos that the "fear" of an outbreak could cause (let alone an actual widespread outbreak). This order sets up the stage for martial law if chaos ensues. Or they might just end up guarding quarantined areas and FEMA camps.

The near future is bound to be interesting but very unstable.

And it means anyone from any branch of the military that is active reserve or still under contractual obligation through the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) program. The IRR has already been explained on this page.

the wording actually does not specifically state AFRICA however it allows the secretary of DEFENSE to call any reservists to active duty and send them as a response team wherever they need to go.

they can't stop Ebola, so they're just gonna kill everybody.

It says that if you're in the Reserves, or maybe even if you were active-duty and are out already for several years (Individual Ready Reserve), he's pulling you back in so you can be exposed to ebola.

Maybe this is how he's going to get rid of those veterans with radiation poisoning and such that they are failing to treat effectively thru the VA. They'll be considered able to serve in this capacity and sent over to catch ebola.

i seen in a movie where they were trying to create a zombie army super-soldier.

One major problem: He's not the legitimate President of the United States. Aside from the citizenship issues, he's a domestic enemy of the Constitution, a felon, and got elected by massive voter fraud - twice.

He isn't my commander in chief. We really don't have a legitimate one at this time.

"I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation United Assistance, which is providing support to civilian-led humanitarian assistance and consequence management support related to the Ebola virus disease outbreak in West Africa."

related to the Ebola outbreak in West Africa yes but, how about when they bring that outbreak here?? Operation United Assistance. hmmmm

No one has mentioned this part.

"This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person."

iow, no one person or country can hold us responsible for anything anyone from the US does while operating in this capacity.<<<<that should be a concern for us all.

Yes.

If this outbreak isn't squashed before it gets a foothold here, you'll all be begging for martial law...mark my words.