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ALERT: Nuclear Accident in Illinois tonight at Honeywell plant, shelter in place

 
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Enjoy the CANCER from the SAFE nuclear power !
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Chernobyl released 100 million curies.
Fukushima released 20 million curies.
Nuclear weapons testing released 200 billion curies.

Coal power in the United States releases the equivalent of one Fukushima every 2 years.

Worldwide coal power releases the equivalent of one Fukushima every 3 months.

When you look at the statistical facts, nuclear power is indeed SAFE when compared to nuclear weapons and coal energy.
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Do you have a link for that?
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Plume Model of Radioactive Release at Honeywell Uranium Hexafluoride Plant

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I'm up in the Toledo area where this video says it is headed... so will it disperse before it reaches here?
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Plume Model of Radioactive Release at Honeywell Uranium Hexafluoride Plant

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I'm up in the Toledo area where this video says it is headed... so will it disperse before it reaches here?
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not sure, but in the "View 3D radioactive plume model:" link under the video [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] it shows the end point just south of Toledo
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Plume Model of Radioactive Release at Honeywell Uranium Hexafluoride Plant

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I'm up in the Toledo area where this video says it is headed... so will it disperse before it reaches here?
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I seriously would immediatly leave anywhere near that plume model. We don't know how this chemical disperses, it could quickly become diffuse, it could settle out to the ground, or it could eddy and gust.

I'd really hate to be caught in an eddy or gust of Uranium Hexafloride.

Take your animals, say goodbye to the tomatoes, or take them, I don't care, but if you can leave, do it.

If you can't, and/or if you've already gotten a heavy dose, there are things you need to do as quickly as possible to mitigate the effects. You'll have to look around for a few credible sources, but CP's will get you where you need. And get your mask you bought for the Ebola hoax on right this second.

I really hope this inspires anyone who hasn't gotten a good filtered mask with eye protection to get that taken care of soonest. You don't really know what you're buying it for, but you'll be damn glad in a situation like this to be breathing through at least a N95(?) fully enclosing mouth and nose mask, and looking at the pink clouds through fully sealing goggles.

Nuclear hormesis is bullshit, but there is a paradoxical effect of getting high doses at once of radioisotopes. In the right circumstances a person can get their body to quickly excrete the toxins before lethal damage can occur.

In this case, the internet is your friend. Make sure you focus your reaserch on nutballs and lunatics. They seem to tend to turn out to be right when things like this "no possible release to the external environment" bullshit goes down.

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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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This is tragic -
unfortunately the deadly results won't be seen for 5-15 years and in the next generation of newborns.
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This is exactly how radiation and toxins affect the cells and organ systems. Leuren Moret gives a killer explanation. You may not die for 5-15 years but the effects are immediate, and the worse they get, the shittier you feel.


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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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There are not private sensors located near that illinois plant but these even if far are showing an interesting peek above the average in last hours:

[link to radioactiveathome.org]

[link to radioactiveathome.org]
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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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Keep us updated

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OK, I've been quiet but head down for the last few days on this....


1. Same as the WIPP plant.. no news is bad news.
2. Atmospheric conditions were volatile, in that their spread forecasts are rubbish.
3. The situation of atmospheric releases is unknown as they submit that it was, and "Still is" contain either interior, or on site.


typical bullshit, not much to go with.

look to Christina's broadcast on Rad-Radio for further info, after she converses with the PTP.
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Plume Model of Radioactive Release at Honeywell Uranium Hexafluoride Plant

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Interesting: Bloomingdale is in the path described in the video and actually the background looks to increase above the average

[link to radioactiveathome.org]
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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
 Quoting: RadChick


Add:
Has anyone been admitted to the nearby hospitals showing any symptoms of radiation poisoning or exposure to other toxic chemicals?
Did anything release into the Ohio River?
Are any precautionary steps being taken to test downstream?
Groundwater contamination?
If there was no risk of exposure, why were "standard emergency procedures" necessary?
If everything is fine, why is the plant shut down?
Has FEMA been contacted?
Has DHS been contacted?
Will this affect any NFL games on Sunday?

I believe the attorney Erin Brokovich is in Nashville (aka Nashvegas) lol
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Questions linger after leak at Honeywell plant



Cameron says the hour long release on Sunday night was different than any he had experienced before.

"There was a big cloud that come over this way toward our area up over the trees," said Cameron.

USW Local 7-669 spokesman John Paul Smith says their training teaches them differently.

“Water is heavier than air so water is going to sink to the ground, it could be a cloud but it is going to go down,” said John Paul Smith. “HF vapor is lighter than air so it's going to move up. The cloud we saw leaving the facility was definitely moving horizontal and up."
"It's ridiculous,” said Cameron. “They have these leaks and they say it's contained every time. It's not contained, everybody stood there and watched it."


It could take up to a week for a preliminary assessment from the NRC before any answers are released.

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It looks contained...
Any words about what/who generate this problem/accident?
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operator error???? cult????
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It looks contained...
Any words about what/who generate this problem/accident?
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operator error???? cult????
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Who cares? in my opinion to tell that coal plants are more unhealthy than nuke plants is completely tard:

1) there are no pictures on the net showing genetic malformations to animals, plants and men living near a coil plant... vice-versa is enough a short search on google to find monsters because of nuke plants

2) if something goes wrong in a coal plant they turn it off and immediately the pollution cease... vice-versa if something go wrong in a nuke plant there's no way to stop it: even if that shit is inactive they have to cool down for at least 30 years to avoid a terrible disaster...

3) in the worse scenario in a coal plant is enough to stop activities to immediately cease pollutions and troubles.
In the worse scenario for a nuke plant an entire region is lost for 30 years while radioactivity will last for thousands years
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NEW VIDEO shows that release was going on for at least 6 full minutes before sprayers were even activated.

Guess all those locals weren't lyin, huh.



Last Edited by RadChick on 10/28/2014 04:12 PM
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Electromechanical sirens always sound so creepy to me.

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NEW VIDEO shows that release was going on for at least 6 full minutes before sprayers were even activated.

Guess all those locals weren't lyin, huh.


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"… vandals who wanted to see if the Man of Steel [statue] was stronger than a speeding bullet. He wasn't…"
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OF COURSE the closest monitors were off. Check out the rad readings for STL:

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EPA beta rad data for event date

Paducha monitoring station is offline
Springfield ( due west ) offline,
Jefferson City ( west of St L ) offline

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EPA beta rad data for event date

Paducha monitoring station is offline
Springfield ( due west ) offline,
Jefferson City ( west of St L ) offline

St L data
measurment start end CPM

Measured on the 40 of every hour starting when accident occurred

2014-10-26 80
2014-10-26 84
2014-10-26 94
2014-10-26 97
2014-10-26 102
2014-10-27 107
2014-10-27 122
2014-10-27 151
2014-10-27 163
2014-10-27 170
2014-10-27 176
2014-10-27 184
2014-10-27 185 7:40 am
2014-10-27 185 8:40 am
2014-10-27 178
2014-10-27 182
2014-10-27 176
2014-10-27 167
2014-10-27 151
2014-10-27 135
2014-10-27 127
2014-10-27 109
2014-10-27 98
2014-10-27 93
2014-10-27 84
2014-10-27 80

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OF COURSE the closest monitors were off. Check out the rad readings for STL:

From Enenews: freebywill
October 27, 2014 at 10:20 pm Log in to Reply
EPA beta rad data for event date

Paducha monitoring station is offline
Springfield ( due west ) offline,
Jefferson City ( west of St L ) offline

From Enenews: freebywill
October 27, 2014 at 10:20 pm Log in to Reply
EPA beta rad data for event date

Paducha monitoring station is offline
Springfield ( due west ) offline,
Jefferson City ( west of St L ) offline

St L data
measurment start end CPM

Measured on the 40 of every hour starting when accident occurred

2014-10-26 80
2014-10-26 84
2014-10-26 94
2014-10-26 97
2014-10-26 102
2014-10-27 107
2014-10-27 122
2014-10-27 151
2014-10-27 163
2014-10-27 170
2014-10-27 176
2014-10-27 184
2014-10-27 185 7:40 am
2014-10-27 185 8:40 am
2014-10-27 178
2014-10-27 182
2014-10-27 176
2014-10-27 167
2014-10-27 151
2014-10-27 135
2014-10-27 127
2014-10-27 109
2014-10-27 98
2014-10-27 93
2014-10-27 84
2014-10-27 80

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thanks for updates

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Re: ALERT: Nuclear Accident in Illinois tonight at Honeywell plant, shelter in place
I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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Add:
Has anyone been admitted to the nearby hospitals showing any symptoms of radiation poisoning or exposure to other toxic chemicals?
Did anything release into the Ohio River?
Are any precautionary steps being taken to test downstream?
Groundwater contamination?
If there was no risk of exposure, why were "standard emergency procedures" necessary?
If everything is fine, why is the plant shut down?
Has FEMA been contacted?
Has DHS been contacted?
Will this affect any NFL games on Sunday?

I believe the attorney Erin Brokovich is in Nashville (aka Nashvegas) lol
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Thanks for these ^^ great questions

Just got off the phone with Public Affairs at the NRC, video upcoming
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Just got off the phone with Public Affairs at the NRC, video upcoming
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Just got off the phone with Public Affairs at the NRC, video upcoming
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I have more questions now than I did before :/

NRC is on-site, has been since Monday (one guy).

Area in plant is still being decontaminated.

Plant is SHUT DOWN until investigation is complete.

Interviews show sabotage was unlikely.

Preliminary indications is there was a weakness in joint at bottom of container, mettalurgy testing may be needed.

SO FAR it doesn't look like contamination made it over the fence, but they are still looking at data. Sketchy answer.

Aware of reports of people smelling and tasting something possibly toxic.

Runoff "probably" went into drains and wells will show it, but he was unsure if drains even exist on property!

No indication Ohio River was contaminated, EPA (and possibly Illinois FEMA?) is there testing too.

Not aware of anyone from surrounding community went to ER for treatment, but he was very sketchy about this.

He seemed a little exasperated at the end, not sure.



I will update when preliminary report is released in a few days, full report not for 30 days.
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Your diligence is much appreciated!

hf
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Your diligence is much appreciated!

hf
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Very much so , thanks op
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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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Add:
Has anyone been admitted to the nearby hospitals showing any symptoms of radiation poisoning or exposure to other toxic chemicals?
Did anything release into the Ohio River?
Are any precautionary steps being taken to test downstream?
Groundwater contamination?
If there was no risk of exposure, why were "standard emergency procedures" necessary?
If everything is fine, why is the plant shut down?
Has FEMA been contacted?
Has DHS been contacted?
Will this affect any NFL games on Sunday?

I believe the attorney Erin Brokovich is in Nashville (aka Nashvegas) lol
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Thanks for these ^^ great questions

Just got off the phone with Public Affairs at the NRC, video upcoming
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WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH :)
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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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Add:
Has anyone been admitted to the nearby hospitals showing any symptoms of radiation poisoning or exposure to other toxic chemicals?
Did anything release into the Ohio River?
Are any precautionary steps being taken to test downstream?
Groundwater contamination?
If there was no risk of exposure, why were "standard emergency procedures" necessary?
If everything is fine, why is the plant shut down?
Has FEMA been contacted?
Has DHS been contacted?
Will this affect any NFL games on Sunday?

I believe the attorney Erin Brokovich is in Nashville (aka Nashvegas) lol
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Thanks for these ^^ great questions

Just got off the phone with Public Affairs at the NRC, video upcoming
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WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH :)
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Lol. I think Mimi's gonna tag team him tomorrow.


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I am supposed to have a phone call first thing in the am with the NRC Region II in Atlanta because I pitched a fit on their hotline last night. I'll see what they say, status of the plant, what WAS the problem, is it still leaking, will the EPA be brought in to investigate residents complaints, confirm the plant is shut down, why is it shutdown, etc etc.

Will update here. Thanks for everyone who contributed to this so far.

hf
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Add:
Has anyone been admitted to the nearby hospitals showing any symptoms of radiation poisoning or exposure to other toxic chemicals?
Did anything release into the Ohio River?
Are any precautionary steps being taken to test downstream?
Groundwater contamination?
If there was no risk of exposure, why were "standard emergency procedures" necessary?
If everything is fine, why is the plant shut down?
Has FEMA been contacted?
Has DHS been contacted?
Will this affect any NFL games on Sunday?

I believe the attorney Erin Brokovich is in Nashville (aka Nashvegas) lol
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Thanks for these ^^ great questions

Just got off the phone with Public Affairs at the NRC, video upcoming
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WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH :)
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