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Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges

 
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Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to remove his shoes at airport security has spent more than six months facing charges for racism. He removed his shoes as requested, but said: ‘I am not Muslim am I?’ A security guard accused him of racism and called the police, saying he was upset by the remark.

'One minute I am queuing up to get on a plane and the next I am confronted by two armed policemen. They said I had used racist language and took me to an office in the terminal,' Mr Griffith said yesterday.

Mr Griffith was allowed to go on his trip but was arrested when he returned. He was charged with causing ‘racially or religiously aggravated harassment, alarm or distress’.

'When I got back I had to wait six hours before they interviewed me again, arrested me and said that was being charged with causing racially aggravated harassment. I was photographed, had my finger prints taken and they also took a DNA swab from my mouth.

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You have got to be fucking kidding me, WTF......
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You have got to be fucking kidding me, WTF......
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Afraid not, the police have gone full retard over here - very very dissapointing!
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Re: Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
Bet you wish you had freedom of speech.
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Where's that Robert Downey picture when you really need it..?

Thought police coming any day now.
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Re: Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
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A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056


I don't think to many 75 years olds have been through SERE level 3.

What happened to this man is disgusting. Actually there are no words for it on a forum.
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Should have worn a burqa and walked right passed them....
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Bet you wish you had freedom of speech.
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It's still about - check out the comments here ; here's one:

[link to www.express.co.uk]

"are the bbc going to produce a story line in eastenders about the paki muslim groomers,rapists torturers beaters sexually / physically abusers and pimpers of our WHITE BRITISH CHRISTIAN CHILDREN?.-
get rid of the dog?,get rid of the fu----g muslims more like,cleanse the whole of europe and beyond,send them all back to the desert and that filthy paedophile pakiland where they belong."

Mind you I bet the staff moderateor's overslept!
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A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056


I don't think to many 75 years olds have been through SERE level 3.

What happened to this man is disgusting. Actually there are no words for it on a forum.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

I am speechless... anyone still dares to claim in America people have freedom of speech?!
Makes living in ex comunists Eastern Europe countries seems like a model for democracy...
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Re: Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
Only made me wonder , what if he would have said "I am not gay." might have caused? Maybe they would shoot him on the spot, or stone him to death...
Unbelievable direction the US is heading...
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Re: Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
IT IS PLAIN TO SEE THAT THIS SECURITY PERSON , MISUNDERSTOOD THIS GENTLEMAN, AND THAT HE WAS SIMPLY STATING A FACT , THAT HE IS NOT A MUSLIM. WHY HE SECURITY PERSON TOOK IT TO MEAN SOMETHING ELSE , SOMETHING DEROGATORY IS HIS OWN FAULT. AND WHAT ABOUT FREE SPEECH, WHY ARE WE BEING PUNISHED FOR SPEAKING OUR MINDS, I REFER TO LARRY FLYNT VS JERRY FALLWELL , IN THE SUPREME COURT , WHO SIDED WITH MR. FLYNT.
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Oh yes they are very out of control......my last trip to the UK...and I mean the last damn time I will ever go to that 18th century backwards place......it is like a bunch of children run amuck.....they bothered myself and my wife with the dumbest questions I have ever witnessed in my life.....and respect for ones elders is a rare sight in the UK now....IMHO
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I keep, saying this over & over & over...

PC will be the death of us all if we don't wake up and smell the coffee!
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Re: Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
UK at it again; however, this could happen everywhere in Western EU.
So who was the emplyee at the airport who did this to him?
Was that a racially/religiously biased cunt?
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Thought police coming any day now.
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9teen They've been here for years dragging the country down.
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Freedom of speech in the US? Sayonara, baby.
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Dear God what next if we say we had bacon for breakfast it will be racists as well??? Makes me freaken wonder lately. I think I am frying some more bacon today the Muslims smell that and they wont dare step foot on my land lolsign
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bump
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056

I don't think to many 75 years olds have been through SERE level 3.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

No, but I think people should be educated on this.

I hate flying these days, because going to an airport is like going to a country under martial law. There are heavily armed guards walking around, checkpoints, constant monitoring and eavesdropping, you may get ID checked at any point, you have no right to privacy, and you can be subjected to invasive inspections (subjected to radiation and body cavity search), interrogations, or even indefinite detention.

Dealing with an environment like this requires level of preparedness similar to that taught in SERE. Only similar, because you're not trying to survive, but only evade, resist and escape (to the plane).
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Re: Ordeal of 75-year-old who quipped 'I'm not Muslim' at uk airport security: spends six months facing racism charges
Actions of a State that has no fear whatsoever of the People.

Doesn't even your basic bill of rights from the 1600's state you have the right to be armed?

Last Edited by Cheyenne on 10/27/2014 07:31 AM
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A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056

I don't think to many 75 years olds have been through SERE level 3.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

No, but I think people should be educated on this.

I hate flying these days, because going to an airport is like going to a country under martial law. There are heavily armed guards walking around, checkpoints, constant monitoring and eavesdropping, you may get ID checked at any point, you have no right to privacy, and you can be subjected to invasive inspections (subjected to radiation and body cavity search), interrogations, or even indefinite detention.

Dealing with an environment like this requires level of preparedness similar to that taught in SERE. Only similar, because you're not trying to survive, but only evade, resist and escape (to the plane).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056


I agree as long as they keep resistance in mind while they are evading and escaping.

Americans aren't supposed to be submissive sheep. Even if that is what they are being trained to be.
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Muslim is a race now?
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More suicidal whites can't wait to go extinct
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Nazism was the best thing to happen to Europe. When is America going to stop bombing the Middle East and go liberate a people we can actually relate to?
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I'm not muslim
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Wow being arrested for not being a muslim is a crime now? This complete balls up was brought to you by the freesmasonic communist satanists.
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Incredibly shocking abuse of government power...
Fear God and Dread Nought.
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A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056


I don't think to many 75 years olds have been through SERE level 3.

What happened to this man is disgusting. Actually there are no words for it on a forum.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

I am speechless... anyone still dares to claim in America people have freedom of speech?!
Makes living in ex comunists Eastern Europe countries seems like a model for democracy...
 Quoting: Mariush2002



america? are you stupid?
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A pensioner who said ‘I’m not Muslim’ when he was asked to
 Quoting: Tess.

Haven't people already learned that there are things that you just don't do at airports?

-Play with replica guns.
-Make hand gestures that could be seen as you pointing a gun at someone/something.
-Joke with your friends about bombs, terrorists or guns.
-Chat with the TSA personnel.
-Look nervous or agitated.

The best way to deal with airports and security inspections is to act like they teach SAS, Delta and other special forces soldiers to act when they become POWs: become a "gray man". Don't put up active resistance but don't be submissive either. Don't refuse to answer, but keep your replies short and useless. Don't avert your eyes but don't look directly at the person interrogating you. Don't draw attention to you but don't try to hide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056

I don't think to many 75 years olds have been through SERE level 3.
 Quoting: s. d. butler

No, but I think people should be educated on this.

I hate flying these days, because going to an airport is like going to a country under martial law. There are heavily armed guards walking around, checkpoints, constant monitoring and eavesdropping, you may get ID checked at any point, you have no right to privacy, and you can be subjected to invasive inspections (subjected to radiation and body cavity search), interrogations, or even indefinite detention.

Dealing with an environment like this requires level of preparedness similar to that taught in SERE. Only similar, because you're not trying to survive, but only evade, resist and escape (to the plane).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64021056


I think you've given us all some good advice here.
I will try to be a 'grey man' next time I deal with airports.

This poor old guy just isn't aware that things have changed and you just can't make these jokes or comments.
Lots of people aren't aware yet.
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I think it should become the mantra of every single person flying.

Solidarity for a change.

We all should say the same fucking thing and proudly.
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