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Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*

 
silverfoxy
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Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
Okay, so I was reading an article on ebola treatment suggestions. Anyways, it has to do with replacing, sodium, potassium, protein and platelets. Realizing that all this would need to be done by IV. I realized They would need saline bags. Earlier this year when I went to donate plasma, there was a huge shortage of saline, so they could not give it to you like normal. Even hospitals had to put off elective surgeries. I know there was articles about it as well. Further proof the government knew ahead of time about ebola.

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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
Yes. The shortage is still happening. Some fucktard sued the main producer of it, so it's messed up production and distribution of it for everyone else who needs it.
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The body bags, ammo, etc... The government has know for a long time what was coming
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I can't find anything on someone suing a company but this shows we are actively getting saline from 4 companies and still it is not enough.



[link to www.fda.gov]
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Amazing what drugs are in shortage.

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This article states manufactures are at full production but still can't keep up with the demand. The quesion still is, who has been buying to the point demand can not be met?
[link to www.medpagetoday.com]
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Probably governments all over the world buying this up. I can't imagine that production of saline would be a difficult or time consuming process.
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I talked to a health care worker that was having problems getting saline solution. She said the supplier told her that all their production was going to the CDC. They didn't inticate how long that would be going on, but it isn't going top end any time soon.
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Wow, thank you for that. Yeah it makes you wonder how much they have stockpiled.
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There was a lot of talk about sea water so it is hard to believe that these kinds of alternatives could not be used in urgent situations that we might be facing.

[link to oceanplasma.org]

Here is one link about it but I think anyone that researches this especially the scientist that should be helping with this issue should easy find solutions that can help the people that need it.

The good news is it is unlikely we would run out of sea water!

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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
No shortage here.

I go to the pharmacy and get 400ml bottles of IV saline for my IV-C and they always have plenty.

Costs about $1.10 and comes in a glass bottle which I much prefer to the "who knows what leaches into it" from the plastic bags kind in the states.

and some nitwit said "seawater" are you fricking out of your mind....??
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Just use sea water instead..

I'm sure it's similar enough??
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So far, I only know of the shortage being United States based.
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Lol I am sure that we have enough water and sodium to make the saline bags. No seawater needed. But it comes down to why we can't make it fast enough, even though they are purchasing from out of country as well.

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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
No shortage here.

I go to the pharmacy and get 400ml bottles of IV saline for my IV-C and they always have plenty.

Costs about $1.10 and comes in a glass bottle which I much prefer to the "who knows what leaches into it" from the plastic bags kind in the states.

and some nitwit said "seawater" are you fricking out of your mind....??
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There is science behind the sea water you don't just pump it in :)

Do some research you will find some good information on it.

Most of us are just trying to help and share our experiences and knowledge.

hf
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Just use sea water instead..

I'm sure it's similar enough??
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Yes, that's it! Bacteria infested, non-sterile sea water!
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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
This article states manufactures are at full production but still can't keep up with the demand. The quesion still is, who has been buying to the point demand can not be met?
[link to www.medpagetoday.com]
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Being delivered to the underground bunkers for them not us...just like the truck loads of coke and walmart stuff being delivered. Just guessing of course but seems logical, doesn't it?
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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
1 gal of water 1tsp salt for saline
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Yes I know you can make your own :)
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How can there be a shortage on salt and water? There can't. They made it up.
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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
The saline shortage has been drying up since Baxter, Hospira and Abbot (the big 3 IV solution makers) stopped production of others to make up for it.
Now the shortage is Lactated Ringers and Normasol-R

Still never got an "official" answer as to why the NS shortage in the first place.
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Re: Does anyone recall Saline Shortage *Ebola*
Several manufacturers got out of the saline market due to FDA regulations being too stringent and costly





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