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Animal form vs Human form and final liberation of suffering

 
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I want to explain why I think the animal kingdom is less than the human species in terms of spiritual evolution.


The human species has the power of reasoning and willpower, animals do not, they follow nature..

You can prove how selfish the nature of animals are just by watching them eat, and this is natural for them and cannot be changed since they do not have that option. They do not share, they steal and fight. Eat or be eaten, kill or be killed. This is how nature goes on, and how it brutally works so beautifully.


"Nature outside of us and our physical body as it is, only wants to perpetuate nature. Our instinct is simply to be born, eat, defecate, reproduce, and die. Nature does not care about our art, science, theories, or beliefs, or whether we believe in God or not. Nature only wants to perpetuate itself. This is why in all the lower kingdoms this is the function of every organism: to perpetuate the existence of those organisms. Each one of them plays a role in perpetuating the planet. That is all nature wants. Nature does not want, does not care, does not need us to believe in God or not."


Animals do not have the power to go against nature. This is what makes humans so special, and this gives us the option to transcend from our lower animalistic nature, into the higher self-less nature of Christ-consciousness, Buddha-nature, or ONE. It also gives us the power to destroy.


Im not saying that we are superior to animals in an egotistical way, im just saying that we are at a different point on the scale of spiritual evolution. Animals don't have control over their own spiritual evolution, god is in control, putting them into the forms that they need at that time in order for them to learn the lessons that they need at that time. Every animal species has different lessons to teach. Humans finally get that control over their spiritual evolution within the time of birth to death. We can choose to break free.


We ultimately are all one with the minerals, plants, animals, and all of existence higher or lower. Nature was created by god, but does not consciously know of god. Nature follows the laws of nature. Animals follow the laws of nature, without the ability to go above or beyond. Nature has a fine balance that cannot be tipped too far in one way or the other or else bad things happen to the earth. Only humans have the ability to destroy the earth, animals are kept in check by the laws and balance of nature, keeping earth healthy. With humans, the law of nature becomes conscious choice giving us the ability to delete the illusionary "self" or the "I", making transcendence into heaven possible. But this also opens the option for us to swing in the opposite direction, possibly following and fueling the ego instead, destabilizing nature and going down the path of evil, destruction, chaos, and suffering.

The ego is an entity that is only interested in pleasure, and the desire for pleasure leads to suffering.

The major difference between human form and animal form is attaining the ability to transcend from animalistic nature into pure consciousness which is ego-free. Humanity is very de-evolved at the current time and most human lives are based out of animalistic nature, but we can escape that now being a human being. We finally have the option to create our solar body, enabling us with the possibility to no longer need a physical body. To become pure consciousness, to be born of spirit, own our soul, and finally escape the cycle of re-birth.
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anyone relate with this?
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Nature must and WILL be destroyed.
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Nature must and WILL be destroyed.
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I hope not
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if you are saying other animals are not self aware then you are wrong. also chimps and gorillas can do american sign language if you teach them. (and actually make sense, not just as a trick like a dog sitting when you tell them to)

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this also debunks your post

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if you are saying other animals are not self aware then you are wrong. also chimps and gorillas can do american sign language if you teach them. (and actually make sense, not just as a trick like a dog sitting when you tell them to)
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I never said animals aren't self aware. read again
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if you are saying other animals are not self aware then you are wrong. also chimps and gorillas can do american sign language if you teach them. (and actually make sense, not just as a trick like a dog sitting when you tell them to)
 Quoting: Nachos


I never said animals aren't self aware. read again
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you said

"The human species has the power of reasoning and willpower, animals do not, they follow nature.."

that is your arrogant opinion. you see them as lower life forms, dogs don't have a reason to build or drive cars or go to the moon. humans have evolved higher intelligence, humans are a part of nature so everything we do is also natural. other species have their own unique traits that humans do not have, like we have our own natural traits that other species do not have. some beetles can lift 288 times their own body weight. humans cannot do that. other species can fly, humans cannot do that without the aid of nature combined with our brains.

other animals feel all the emotions humans do. as well as reasoning and willpower.

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if you are saying other animals are not self aware then you are wrong. also chimps and gorillas can do american sign language if you teach them. (and actually make sense, not just as a trick like a dog sitting when you tell them to)
 Quoting: Nachos


I never said animals aren't self aware. read again
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you said

"The human species has the power of reasoning and willpower, animals do not, they follow nature.."

that is your arrogant opinion. you see them as lower life forms, dogs don't have a reason to build or drive cars or go to the moon. humans have evolved higher intelligence, humans are a part of nature so everything we do is also natural. other species have their own unique traits that humans do not have, like we have our own natural traits that other species do not have. some beetles can lift 288 times their own body weight. humans cannot do that. other species can fly, humans cannot do that without the aid of nature combined with our brains.

other animals feel all the emotions humans do. as well as reasoning and willpower.
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Wrong. They do not, they follow the laws of nature. Yes they have emotions but not the willpower to go outside of nature, like humans.
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Re: Animal form vs Human form and final liberation of suffering
if you are saying other animals are not self aware then you are wrong. also chimps and gorillas can do american sign language if you teach them. (and actually make sense, not just as a trick like a dog sitting when you tell them to)
 Quoting: Nachos


I never said animals aren't self aware. read again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64689323


you said

"The human species has the power of reasoning and willpower, animals do not, they follow nature.."

that is your arrogant opinion. you see them as lower life forms, dogs don't have a reason to build or drive cars or go to the moon. humans have evolved higher intelligence, humans are a part of nature so everything we do is also natural. other species have their own unique traits that humans do not have, like we have our own natural traits that other species do not have. some beetles can lift 288 times their own body weight. humans cannot do that. other species can fly, humans cannot do that without the aid of nature combined with our brains.

other animals feel all the emotions humans do. as well as reasoning and willpower.
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Wrong. They do not, they follow the laws of nature. Yes they have emotions but not the willpower to go outside of nature, like humans.
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Everything humans do is natural. Nature "created" humans by evolution. We use the natural laws of the universe to our advantage, that is still natural.
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Nature must and WILL be destroyed.
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