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Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all

 
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"Now when he had come into the parts of Caes·a·rea Phi·lippi, Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·lijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."- Matthew 16:13-16

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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
he is Cesaria kaiser Isa Cleopatras son
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
The Book of Wisdom in the back of the bible is supposed to be the grand total of all knowledge given to man, every last bit of it and there is not one word about Jesus in the entire book!
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The Book of Wisdom in the back of the bible is supposed to be the grand total of all knowledge given to man, every last bit of it and there is not one word about Jesus in the entire book!
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Which book are you referring to?
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The Book of Wisdom in the back of the bible is supposed to be the grand total of all knowledge given to man, every last bit of it and there is not one word about Jesus in the entire book!
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Which book are you referring to?
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There is no "book of wisdom" at the back of the Bible, the last book is Revelation, and it certainly does refer to Christ
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

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www.pocm.info best information on why the bible is full of crap
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Bc Christ came not to bring peace but a sword.
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
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That is the best effort to destroy someones thread with a wall of text that i have ever seen.
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
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No.

The same question can NOT be asked in reverse. It's impossible to prove a negative.

It's always the same evasive response from the low IQ Christers.

The onus is upon YOU to prove your sky-fairy exists.

I await your proof.

Until you can prove your "Christ" exists, there will be no further communication, just my mocking laughter.

afro
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Bc Christ came not to bring peace but a sword.
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I am come to send fire onto the earth.
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
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No.

The same question can NOT be asked in reverse. It's impossible to prove a negative.

It's always the same evasive response from the low IQ Christers.

The onus is upon YOU to prove your sky-fairy exists.

I await your proof.

Until you can prove your "Christ" exists, there will be no further communication, just my mocking laughter.

afro
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Assuming people should care to provide you with evidence? To care about your well being? No no, go ahead with your mockery and go ahead to your fait. No one will care and no one will look and what will be will be.
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


No.

The same question can NOT be asked in reverse. It's impossible to prove a negative.

It's always the same evasive response from the low IQ Christers.

The onus is upon YOU to prove your sky-fairy exists.

I await your proof.

Until you can prove your "Christ" exists, there will be no further communication, just my mocking laughter.

afro
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It absolutely CAN be asked in reverse, the fact that his influence is still felt to this day, and his name used so widely a start, why would even calendars be based around the date of his birth, how could one man fullfill so many prophecies concerning him from the Hebrew scriptures, ......

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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


No.

The same question can NOT be asked in reverse. It's impossible to prove a negative.

It's always the same evasive response from the low IQ Christers.

The onus is upon YOU to prove your sky-fairy exists.

I await your proof.

Until you can prove your "Christ" exists, there will be no further communication, just my mocking laughter.

afro
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The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
CAN any man unquestionably be called the greatest man who ever lived? How do you measure a man’s greatness? By his military genius? his physical strength? his mental prowess?
The historian H. G. Wells said that a man’s greatness can be measured by ‘what he leaves to grow, and whether he started others to think along fresh lines with a vigor that persisted after him.’ Wells, although not claiming to be a Christian, acknowledged: “By this test Jesus stands first.”
Alexander the Great, Charlemagne (styled “the Great” even in his own lifetime), and Napoleon Bonaparte were powerful rulers. By their formidable presence, they wielded great influence over those they commanded. Yet, Napoleon is reported to have said: “Jesus Christ has influenced and commanded His subjects without His visible bodily presence.”
By his dynamic teachings and by the way he lived in harmony with them, Jesus has powerfully affected the lives of people for nearly two thousand years. As one writer aptly expressed it: “All the armies that ever marched, and all the navies that ever were built, and all the parliaments that ever sat, all the kings that ever reigned, put together have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully.”
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
Bc Christ came not to bring peace but a sword.
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I believe you are referring to this scripture, there would be division over the message that Christ preached, some would accept it and others would not, depending on their heart condition, thus resulting in divisions within even households- It was not Christ's will that these divisions exist, rather it was his desire that all would accept him, but he knew that would not be the case



"Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father who is in the heavens; 33 but whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens. 34 Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household. 37 He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me"- Matthew 10:32-37
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
he is Cesaria kaiser Isa Cleopatras son
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


No.

The same question can NOT be asked in reverse. It's impossible to prove a negative.

It's always the same evasive response from the low IQ Christers.

The onus is upon YOU to prove your sky-fairy exists.

I await your proof.

Until you can prove your "Christ" exists, there will be no further communication, just my mocking laughter.

afro
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Nah, this is one time when human philosophy proves vain. The percieved consequences of disbelief as opposed to disbelief states that the burden of proof lies on you.
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Re: Christ: The greatest influence on humanity in history. Why such conflict over his identity? Or many don't believe he existed at all
What proof is there that Jesus or Peter Simon ever existed?

hf
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I guess the same question could be asked in reverse, what proof is there that they did NOT exist?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


No.

The same question can NOT be asked in reverse. It's impossible to prove a negative.

It's always the same evasive response from the low IQ Christers.

The onus is upon YOU to prove your sky-fairy exists.

I await your proof.

Until you can prove your "Christ" exists, there will be no further communication, just my mocking laughter.

afro
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Nah, this is one time when human philosophy proves vain. The percieved consequences of disbelief as opposed to disbelief states that the burden of proof lies on you.
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Actually, human philosophy proves vain almost always!





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