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ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan

 
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ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
In a televised speech in Istanbul, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan claimed that Muslims had discovered the Americas three centuries before the voyages of Christopher Columbus. He was addressing a summit of Muslim leaders from Latin America.

"Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," Erdogan said. "Muslim sailors arrived in America from 1178. Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast."

Erdogan is not shy of making provocative statements, whether it's about his political rivals, ethnic minorities or social media Web sites. His latest remarks are, in comparison, less incendiary.

They echo the research of a small coterie of scholars who believe there's archaeological and documentary evidence of Muslims in pre-Columbian America. Erdogan is apparently citing the disputed work of Youssef Mroueh, an academic affiliated with the As-Sunnah Foundation of America.

In a 1996 paper, Mroueh referred to the presence of a mosque spotted by Columbus along the Cuban coast. "Columbus admitted in his papers that on Monday, October 21, 1492 CE while his ship was sailing near Gibara on the north-east coast of Cuba, he saw a mosque on top of a beautiful mountain," writes Mroueh.

Most scholars insist the "mosque" mentioned was a metaphorical allusion to a striking land feature. There have been no archaeological discoveries of Islamic structures pre-dating Columbus's arrival in the New World.

Mroueh, who is not listed as a historian at any institution of higher learning, suggests that explorers from Muslim kingdoms in West Africa made the same journey across the Atlantic from the Canary Islands well before the Italian seafarer did in the employ of the Spanish Crown.

Others cite the work of a noted geographer in Muslim Spain, who produced a map in the 10th century that may show the outline of South America, and referenced the journey of an Arab sailor who traveled westward through an "ocean of darkness and fog."
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
TOAL BULLSHIT:

Islam is only 1400 years and the retroactively make up timelime shit just to pretend they are relevant

Actually, there is hebrew on rocks in the desert in New Mexico, uh oh, jews beat them to it. 4000 years ago.

And there is no 'muslim' anywhere. Religions don't discover shit.
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11/16/2014 05:42 AM
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
So does Obama agree ?
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
BTW, Lief Erickson, 1100 years ago.

They are such liars, and spread lying bullshit that the ignorant illiterate morons believe
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11/16/2014 05:45 AM
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
'Muslims discovered America before Columbus'

so did the siberian huntergatherers during the last iceage.
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
The Romans knew that the Carthaginians had colonies on the "Fortunate Isles" and sent a fleet to destroy them, a little like the USA sending an aircraft carrier to the South Pole to find Nazis.
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11/16/2014 05:50 AM
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
Lol on a persian carpet
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast."


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anybody read columbus journals to verify this claim ?

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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
They should throw that stinking country out of NATO.
Or throw the stinking muslims out of Turkey.
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11/16/2014 06:04 AM
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
They should throw that stinking country out of NATO.
Or throw the stinking muslims out of Turkey.

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turkey is like 90-something percent muslum country
not gonna happen

but kick it out of nato
and not let it go into EU
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
clappa

Allaahu akbar!!!
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Re: ISIS-Turkey's Erdogan nutshell: Muslims discovered America before Columbus, claims Turkey’s Erdogan
Siberians and other Asian groups discovered America 50,000 to 20,000 years ago.





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