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Murdered New Jersey man among several tracked by Muslims

The New Jersey man brutally murdered with his family was just one of a number of Christians systematically tracked by a radical Islamic website because they debate Muslims on the popular Internet chat service PalTalk.com.

The password-protected Arabic website www.barsomyat.com, includes the kind of death threat received by Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found Jan. 14 with his wife and two daughters, bound and gagged with their throats slashed, the New York Sun reports.

Two months before his murder, according to authorities, Armanious received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you."

The Sun's report says barsomyat.com features photographs and information about Christians who actively debate on PalTalk, including a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada.

Personal information posted by subscribers clearly indicates they are trying to find his current address, the paper said.

One comment warns: "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!"

Another says: "Laugh, oh Christian, and soon you will see a big hit."


Banner on Islamic website that tracks Christians.

The Islamic website's banner displays lamb with its throat being slit and a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X." The main heading, in Arabic, says "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief."

Authorities have not determined whether the Armanious family's murder is tied to Islamic radicals, but the Sun says barsomyat.com users expressed delight in the deaths.

One post, with a photograph of Armanious and his wife, said, "This is a picture of the filthy dog, curser of Muhammad, and a photo of his filthy wife, curser of Muhammad. They got what they deserved for their actions in America."

The Islamic website has at least seven collections of photographs of Christians who post on PalTalk and about 40 related discussion threads.

One post is about a Christian man whose computer apparently was hacked to obtain his photograph. It includes his PalTalk name, real name and the city where he lives in Lebanon, the Sun reported.

Another entry, with photographs of four Christians, says it has postponed publishing information "because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right."

Islam researcher and writer Robert Spencer, moderator of the weblog JihadWatch.com, told the Sun he has never seen anything like the posts on barsonmyat.com.

"It's chilling to see photographs of people who probably have no idea that they're on the website," he said. "Hamas's website would post self-congratulatory accounts of their attacks on civilians, but barsomyat.com's users are telegraphing their intended victims in advance."

Spencer told the New York paper he sees barsomyat.com as a "prime example" of how Islamic extremists can utilize technology to attempt to bring Islamic religious law to the West.

"We saw in the Theo van Gogh murders that some Muslims will take these kinds of matters into their own hands," Spencer said, referring to the murdered Dutch filmmaker. "The Internet makes it easier for them to do so by disseminating this kind of information. You could imagine 15 years ago how hard it would be for people to get this much information on people who they believe should be killed."

On his JihadWatch weblog, Spencer posted translations of conversations. He says, "It is clear that the personal information is being exchanged in order to facilitate the murders of the people discussed.

Bibo 117: Allah bless you brothers!

Here is the surprise you've all been waiting for and we haven't published yet due to a certain reason. The damned Muhammad-cursing dog "[NAME REMOVED]" is the big brother of "[NAME REMOVED]" and their little brother is the one called "[NAME REMOVED]."

"[NAME REMOVED]" the dog is married to the daughter of one of the Muhammad-cursing Christians from paltalk. We have postponed publishing this information because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right. These are the pictures of the "devil triangle."

[Photos of the people mentioned were then posted.]

Bibo 117: For you my brothers I now present the second photo collection of the Muhammad-cursing paltalk pigs. Wait a little for the rest of the pictures. The first photo is that of the foul smelling ugly pig "[NAME REMOVED]."

Anti Christians: [Posts Photos:] "The deceitful [NAME REMOVED]" and "The liar [NAME REMOVED]." [In green in the middle:] "Beware!"

Bibo 117: Fellow brothers this is the picture of one of the most Muhammad-cursing Christians. It was taken as he was opening a camera with one of the young Christian ladies from Paltalk.

*After he is finished, the isolation of the Christian lady will be completed.

This idiots name on paltalk: [NAME REMOVED]
His real name is: [NAME REMOVED]
He lives in [NAME REMOVED].
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Egyptian court frees killers of 21 Christians.

Over three years have passed since the three-day killing spree in the village of El-Kosheh that left 21 Christians murdered, 33 Christians wounded, and 260 Christian homes and businesses destroyed. In a blatant disregard for justice, Egypt’s courts today acquitted 93 of the 96 defendants. The court’s verdict is a grave disappointment for Egypt’s Christian community who remain exasperated by several failed attempts to ensure justice and equity.

This spree of violence, originating from a dispute between a Muslim trader and a Christian shop-owner, escalated into a series of murderous attacks, while police idly stood by and watched as the violence intensified. To the dismay of the Egyptian Christian community, during the first trial an Egyptian Security court acquitted all but four of the 96 defendants, including Muslims charged with murder. Of the four that were found guilty, none were convicted of murder. In response to the outraged Christian community, Cairo’s Court of Cassation announced that it would hear the appeal and a retrial opened in May 2002. The court delivered its verdict today, a month later than was expected.

The court found 2 of the 96 defendants guilty on charges of manslaughter; one Muslim defendant was sentenced to fifteen years in prison, and another three and a half years, not the normal death sentence for such crime. All other defendants have been acquitted. Once again the Christian community in Egypt has found itself amidst an atmosphere of discrimination and inequality in which justice cannot be served. Indeed, such morally irresponsible rulings can only warrant the furthering of such violence and the destruction of the very fabric of Egyptian society.

At this crucial time, as Egypt attempts to establish its role as a partner in the war against terrorism, its courts nevertheless continue to issue politically dictated rulings that merely cater to the fanatic elements of Egyptian society.

We are not prepared to accept anything less than a full conviction of the murderers of the 21 Christians, no matter how long it takes. The international community and Christians worldwide are prepared to transform El-Kosheh into an international problem; the heavy moral implications of this case may loom over Egypt’s leadership for generations to come.

“We are waiting for Egypt to arrest, try, and convict those who killed 21 Christians, wounded 33, and burned and looted 260 Christian homes and businesses. We are dedicated to see justice served in this case by the Egyptian courts or by the international community,” said Michael Meunier, president of U.S. Copts Association.
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they,d never get aressted in eygypt they would more get a medal.i mean everyone knows a muslim only likes another muslim.everyone else are just heathen non belivers
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Christians stalked on Islamic website
Murdered New Jersey man among several tracked by Muslims

The New Jersey man brutally murdered with his family was just one of a number of Christians systematically tracked by a radical Islamic website because they debate Muslims on the popular Internet chat service PalTalk.com.

The password-protected Arabic website www.barsomyat.com, includes the kind of death threat received by Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found Jan. 14 with his wife and two daughters, bound and gagged with their throats slashed, the New York Sun reports.

Two months before his murder, according to authorities, Armanious received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you."

The Sun's report says barsomyat.com features photographs and information about Christians who actively debate on PalTalk, including a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada.

Personal information posted by subscribers clearly indicates they are trying to find his current address, the paper said.

One comment warns: "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!"

Another says: "Laugh, oh Christian, and soon you will see a big hit."


Banner on Islamic website that tracks Christians.

The Islamic website's banner displays lamb with its throat being slit and a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X." The main heading, in Arabic, says "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief."

Authorities have not determined whether the Armanious family's murder is tied to Islamic radicals, but the Sun says barsomyat.com users expressed delight in the deaths.

One post, with a photograph of Armanious and his wife, said, "This is a picture of the filthy dog, curser of Muhammad, and a photo of his filthy wife, curser of Muhammad. They got what they deserved for their actions in America."

The Islamic website has at least seven collections of photographs of Christians who post on PalTalk and about 40 related discussion threads.

One post is about a Christian man whose computer apparently was hacked to obtain his photograph. It includes his PalTalk name, real name and the city where he lives in Lebanon, the Sun reported.

Another entry, with photographs of four Christians, says it has postponed publishing information "because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right."

Islam researcher and writer Robert Spencer, moderator of the weblog JihadWatch.com, told the Sun he has never seen anything like the posts on barsonmyat.com.

"It's chilling to see photographs of people who probably have no idea that they're on the website," he said. "Hamas's website would post self-congratulatory accounts of their attacks on civilians, but barsomyat.com's users are telegraphing their intended victims in advance."

Spencer told the New York paper he sees barsomyat.com as a "prime example" of how Islamic extremists can utilize technology to attempt to bring Islamic religious law to the West.

"We saw in the Theo van Gogh murders that some Muslims will take these kinds of matters into their own hands," Spencer said, referring to the murdered Dutch filmmaker. "The Internet makes it easier for them to do so by disseminating this kind of information. You could imagine 15 years ago how hard it would be for people to get this much information on people who they believe should be killed."

On his JihadWatch weblog, Spencer posted translations of conversations. He says, "It is clear that the personal information is being exchanged in order to facilitate the murders of the people discussed.

Bibo 117: Allah bless you brothers!

Here is the surprise you've all been waiting for and we haven't published yet due to a certain reason. The damned Muhammad-cursing dog "[NAME REMOVED]" is the big brother of "[NAME REMOVED]" and their little brother is the one called "[NAME REMOVED]."

"[NAME REMOVED]" the dog is married to the daughter of one of the Muhammad-cursing Christians from paltalk. We have postponed publishing this information because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right. These are the pictures of the "devil triangle."

[Photos of the people mentioned were then posted.]

Bibo 117: For you my brothers I now present the second photo collection of the Muhammad-cursing paltalk pigs. Wait a little for the rest of the pictures. The first photo is that of the foul smelling ugly pig "[NAME REMOVED]."

Anti Christians: [Posts Photos:] "The deceitful [NAME REMOVED]" and "The liar [NAME REMOVED]." [In green in the middle:] "Beware!"

Bibo 117: Fellow brothers this is the picture of one of the most Muhammad-cursing Christians. It was taken as he was opening a camera with one of the young Christian ladies from Paltalk.

*After he is finished, the isolation of the Christian lady will be completed.

This idiots name on paltalk: [NAME REMOVED]
His real name is: [NAME REMOVED]
He lives in [NAME REMOVED].
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Haha, what kinda of bullshit is this" what do you know about islam " seriously? what do u know? either this is some satanic/cabalistic jew organization that tryes to spin hatred toward islam or christians them selves" the islamic nation has been the only rulling entity, that have ever mixed the 3 religions under one state for more than a 1000years, the christians wanted to live in the khilfah state, instead of their supressing priesthood. islam imbraces christianity etcetera, calling to respekt the people of the book," didt Salahuddin`? slaughter alle the christiians when he retook jerusalem? no not a single got executed after the war" but what didt the christian do? they slaughtered 25000 pr day, they walked in blood to their knees, killed muslims as well as jews. dont pull that shit talk, besides link it, though it wont make any difference" cause u obviously dont know anything about the islamic fate, know ur enemies right? well i guess islam is not ur enemy
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lol deny deny deny
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Ill tell you what I know about Islam.

It says that it is okay to behead infidels.

So, what is an infidel? Thats the only thing I need to know.
Help I'm gay and stuck in this closet!
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Good article. Link?
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That characterization was based on interviews with the Egyptian-Americans, as well as on past incidents of sectarian violence in Egypt, including riots in January 2000 sparked by an argument between a Muslim customer and a Christian shopkeeper that led to the deaths of about 20 people, nearly all Christian.

Coptic Christians maintain that they continue to suffer discrimination and persecution by the Muslim majority in Egypt. But while the two groups have a long history of conflict, and clashes still erupt now and then, relations have been generally peaceful in the last few years.
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Robbery or Vendetta?

Mysterious murders cause rift between Copts and Muslims in U.S.
By Corrie Cutrer | posted 03/02/2005 09:00 a.m.


The gruesome and ***UNSOLVED*** murder of a Coptic family in Jersey City, New Jersey, has created anger and anxiety among Copts in this multiethnic community, just a few miles from New York City.

[link to www.christianitytoday.com]

Notice I highlighted UNSOLVED, and this is from a Christian magazine.

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NO ONE has been caught or tried for this crime OP.

So where do you get off saying it was Muslims!

This is another bullshit story from Jihadwatch, the Muslim hate site, and NO ONE has been charged at all!

Their is NO evedence that this was done by Muslims!

This is just more bullshit propaganda, just assume it was Muslims, and ask questions later, eh?





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