Hungary’s Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy | |
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VagyokAkiVagyok User ID: 44082262 Austria 11/25/2014 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not just Washington's enemy but the enemy of his own people as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37757297 Which people? You mean those who like to complain about every single thing? They had Orbán, they complained, they got Gyurcsány, they complained, now they get Orbán again and they complain..... If those people didn't like him, then why didn't they go voting for example? Only half the population voted and out of this half, 60% voted for Fidesz.... So which people are we talking about? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37757297 Hungary 11/26/2014 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not just Washington's enemy but the enemy of his own people as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37757297 Which people? You mean those who like to complain about every single thing? They had Orbán, they complained, they got Gyurcsány, they complained, now they get Orbán again and they complain..... If those people didn't like him, then why didn't they go voting for example? Only half the population voted and out of this half, 60% voted for Fidesz.... So which people are we talking about? You're outright lying when you say 60% of voters voted for Fidesz. It was 44.54%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] And you know quite well whose complaining. That roughly 70% of the population that didn't vote for them, and are affected by their policies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37757297 Hungary 11/26/2014 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of 199 seats, Orban won 133 which is a 67% parliamentary majority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58955015 OP didn't say 67% voted for Orban or anything. You are the one who actually lied. Okay, point to it where did I lie? And he did say that 60% of the voters voted for him. It's right there, where I quoted it. |
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VagyokAkiVagyok User ID: 44082262 Austria 11/30/2014 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not just Washington's enemy but the enemy of his own people as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37757297 Which people? You mean those who like to complain about every single thing? They had Orbán, they complained, they got Gyurcsány, they complained, now they get Orbán again and they complain..... If those people didn't like him, then why didn't they go voting for example? Only half the population voted and out of this half, 60% voted for Fidesz.... So which people are we talking about? You're outright lying when you say 60% of voters voted for Fidesz. It was 44.54%. [link to en.wikipedia.org] And you know quite well whose complaining. That roughly 70% of the population that didn't vote for them, and are affected by their policies. Ok sorry, it was 60% of the seats they won then. But still, MORE THAN HA LF of the population DID NOT vote!! So wtf are they complaining about?!?! Out of the 4-5 millions who did vote, more than 2 million voted for Fidesz So out of 10 million people TWO millions can complain. The other 6 millions should shut the fk up and go vote next time. All I hear people is complaining and complaining.... No matter what happenes. What do they expect in return?!? Some people would still complain even if Jesus was their prime minister, ffs! Besides, who exactly would you want as your PM? That idiot Gyurcsány who could easily play the lead role in The Muppets Show or the great "anti-jew" "Hungarian" Vóna .....errm sorry I mean controlled opposition leader Zazrivecz (great fkn Hungarian name!!!)?! I didn't vote, I don't care about fine politicians, but at least I'm NOT complainng! What I am seeing though is that this government is at least trying to kick some oligarch butt and I applaud them for this. THIS is the main subject of this thread, the fact that Orbán is being attacked because he is showing the finger to these fuckers! What his purposes and plans are is another story! Seeing as you are trying so hard to demonize him makes you in my eyes at least a pawn in the US propaganda machine...not to mention your very good English and the use of word combinations such as "outright lying", which a real Hungarian would hardly know or use. |
VagyokAkiVagyok User ID: 44082262 Austria 11/30/2014 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of 199 seats, Orban won 133 which is a 67% parliamentary majority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58955015 OP didn't say 67% voted for Orban or anything. You are the one who actually lied. I was wrong with the numbers, it was 60% of the seats they won, but it wasn't an "outright lie", like AC is trying to pass it off |
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VagyokAkiVagyok User ID: 44082262 Austria 11/30/2014 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not just Washington's enemy but the enemy of his own people as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37757297 Well an enemy to 20% of his people and some duals. AC seems to neglect the fact that there were a total of about 2,5 million people who didn't vote for them, but for different other parties. Out of the remaining 7,5 million, 2,2 voted for them and the rest didn't vote at all..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65607047 United States 11/30/2014 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not just Washington's enemy but the enemy of his own people as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37757297 Well an enemy to 20% of his people and some duals. AC seems to neglect the fact that there were a total of about 2,5 million people who didn't vote for them, but for different other parties. Out of the remaining 7,5 million, 2,2 voted for them and the rest didn't vote at all..... Maybe the ones who didn't bother to vote, should have. Instead of whining out it later. |
VagyokAkiVagyok User ID: 44082262 Austria 11/30/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of 199 seats, Orban won 133 which is a 67% parliamentary majority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58955015 OP didn't say 67% voted for Orban or anything. You are the one who actually lied. I was wrong with the numbers, it was 60% of the seats they won, but it wasn't an "outright lie", like AC is trying to pass it off ...oh and one more thing AC seems to be neglecting while trying to call me a liar... We are talking about 45% on NATIONAL level. At the local level Fidesz got 90,57% of the mandates!!! So out of 106 voting areas, there was a Fidesz winner in 90 of them! Now, the thing is that on local level, one mostly votes for a person they know and who proved worthy of one's vote. So if most people in Budapest for example voted for, say, X, that means that X got the trust of the most people who live there. He must have achieved this by taking mostly good decisions that people agree with. On a national level on the other side, you get to vote for whoever the party nominates. So if you are in the country's west and they nominate someone from the east, you DO NOT know that person, so you either trust your party or your instincts. Except this, on national level, you have the power of the propaganda machine, which is a power nobody should neglect. So if you have a media "icon" who is saying "do not vote for X or Y", most people will not vote for X or Y, but NOT because they think X or Y is bad, but because they trust and idolize that ONE person, that media icon. You cannot do this on local level, because the people actually KNOW X or Y and if you try to "demonize" or "angelize" them, they will tell you to go fk yourself. Now THIS is the important difference here. So actually, when you are saying that the Hungarian people are not happy with Fidesz, it is you who are "lying', since in 90% of the local voting areas the majority voted for a Fidesz nominee. get it? |
VagyokAkiVagyok User ID: 44082262 Austria 11/30/2014 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's not just Washington's enemy but the enemy of his own people as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37757297 Well an enemy to 20% of his people and some duals. AC seems to neglect the fact that there were a total of about 2,5 million people who didn't vote for them, but for different other parties. Out of the remaining 7,5 million, 2,2 voted for them and the rest didn't vote at all..... Maybe the ones who didn't bother to vote, should have. Instead of whining out it later. exactly! but also check out my post above. On a local level, this governing party got 90% of the votes |
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