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Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.

 
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I have a question regarding the mythical "genies" or "jinns",are these creatures demonic entities from the low astral planes that arabic people used to worship? Thanks.
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Is there any evidence that speaks to the effects of suicide on the mechanics/process of dying and what happens after?

I'm not really expecting an answer but figured I'd ask anyway.
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The proces once no mechanics are given is fairly simple, your present reality is shaped the way it is because billions of sentients experience it and as such it's not as malleable.

When a sentient dies his inner world becomes his only world in which he is the primary observer, thus he shapes his surroundings instinctively, consequently he will take whatever misfortune caused him or her to take their lives with them as their personal hell to experience untill an outside force frees them.

Given the subjectivity of experiences in the border realms a person might experience a millenia of anguish yet be dead only an hour.
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Between the akashic records, collective unconscious and global memory imprint, which one is the most accurate?
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Is there any evidence that speaks to the effects of suicide on the mechanics/process of dying and what happens after?

I'm not really expecting an answer but figured I'd ask anyway.
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The proces once no mechanics are given is fairly simple, your present reality is shaped the way it is because billions of sentients experience it and as such it's not as malleable.

When a sentient dies his inner world becomes his only world in which he is the primary observer, thus he shapes his surroundings instinctively, consequently he will take whatever misfortune caused him or her to take their lives with them as their personal hell to experience until an outside force frees them.

Given the subjectivity of experiences in the border realms a person might experience a millenia of anguish yet be dead only an hour.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


What outside source can free such individual? How would this happen?

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Reminds me of a movie with Robin Williams. . . "What Dreams May Come"

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Meanwhile, Annie is unable to cope with the loss of her husband and decides to commit suicide. Chris, who is initially relieved that her suffering is done, grows angry when he learns that those who commit suicide go to Hell; this is not the result of a judgment made against them, but rather their own tendency to create "nightmare" afterlife worlds based on their pain. Chris is adamant that he will rescue Annie from Hell, despite Albert's insistence that no one has ever succeeded in doing so with a suicide. Albert agrees to find Chris a "tracker" to help search for Annie's soul.

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Is there any evidence that speaks to the effects of suicide on the mechanics/process of dying and what happens after?

I'm not really expecting an answer but figured I'd ask anyway.
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The proces once no mechanics are given is fairly simple, your present reality is shaped the way it is because billions of sentients experience it and as such it's not as malleable.

When a sentient dies his inner world becomes his only world in which he is the primary observer, thus he shapes his surroundings instinctively, consequently he will take whatever misfortune caused him or her to take their lives with them as their personal hell to experience untill an outside force frees them.

Given the subjectivity of experiences in the border realms a person might experience a millenia of anguish yet be dead only an hour.
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What outside source can free such individual? How would this happen?
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Intriguing Alterwelt. Although I'm trying to understand how 'living' reality is not malleable yet laws of nature can be bent or broken. I assume my error is in seeing them as binary conditions.

Also curious what that 'outside force' would be.

**Response is optional as I'm veering away from your preferred subjects.**

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Mystery 'Hobbits' not Human, Study Says - [link to news.discovery.com]
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Is there any evidence that speaks to the effects of suicide on the mechanics/process of dying and what happens after?

I'm not really expecting an answer but figured I'd ask anyway.
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The proces once no mechanics are given is fairly simple, your present reality is shaped the way it is because billions of sentients experience it and as such it's not as malleable.

When a sentient dies his inner world becomes his only world in which he is the primary observer, thus he shapes his surroundings instinctively, consequently he will take whatever misfortune caused him or her to take their lives with them as their personal hell to experience untill an outside force frees them.

Given the subjectivity of experiences in the border realms a person might experience a millenia of anguish yet be dead only an hour.
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Thank you for taking the time to answer. This explains the limits to one's ability to perceive the present reality - other sentients' influence on the present.

Based on your answer it appears that the ability to "move" once in the inner world (spheres?) is managed externally by an foreign source force.

This further supports my belief that freedom is an illusion and is never really attained. I believe the closest thing to being free is what one experiences upon returning to the source. By then it probably does not matter.
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This further supports my belief that freedom is an illusion and is never really attained. I believe the closest thing to being free is what one experiences upon returning to the source. By then it probably does not matter.
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Hey AC - agreed to a point. The freedom comes with the choice of individual perspective and perception. Perspective drives how we interact with objective reality which in turn influences future reality.

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You said that chakras accumulate energy and it can be utilized certain ways.
Questions:

1. For what can one use that energy for?
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Being alive.
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Well....that's logical. Maybe sometimes my questions seem dumb, but Internet is a big garbage dump of info and you never know what's right or wrong. But another 2 questions :)
1. Is this chakra system stable or can it go out of balance?
2. Are the chakras there where people claim them to be?

Thank You.

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This further supports my belief that freedom is an illusion and is never really attained. I believe the closest thing to being free is what one experiences upon returning to the source. By then it probably does not matter.
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Hey AC - agreed to a point. The freedom comes with the choice of individual perspective and perception. Perspective drives how we interact with objective reality which in turn influences future reality.
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A most excellent point. I guess the ability to change one's perspective is the key. I find this difficult to do given the collective sentient influence on the world today. One has to wonder how influential the media and entertainment industries are responsible for this influence on the general public.

Most who know me consider me to be an idealist because of my thoughts on how I believe we should live (essentially very similar to the 1stCiv-actually almost identical). The most frequent response I receive is that it is not in our nature to live that way and that it will never happen. Hence my perspective on reality is greatly influenced towards the negative notion that we are doomed to fail as a civilization. Especially given the information received here that the only "successful" advanced civilization was only able to achieve a balanced way of living as a result of their genetic and physiological makeup - and about 100k yrs of experience.

The 1stCiv descendants, at best, managed to advance to a point of self destruction - twice - in 32k yrs. Not very comforting.
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Alterwelt, can you explain who were Evenor and Leucippe, from Plato's original story? And who was their daughter Cleito? How did she have all those sets of twin babies? Also, why didn't Plato finish writing the story? It leaves us right in pretty much the beginning. What happened to the story or to Plato that made this story not complete?
Thank you
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Plato was ultimately a man born in very ancient and much simpler times, while he was a learned man he wrote about events several thousand years his prior of which he had little understanding.

He did not finish his tale because he was forbidden to do so by his peers.
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Hi Alterwelt!
Thank you so much for the answer! It does totally make sense, it's very interesting to me, especially the part about why he didn't finish telling the tale. Basically, the Atlantis story has been a secret for millenia, and it will continue to be that way. Alterwelt, could you explain why the ones in charge, such as mainstream historians for example, refuse to acknowledge Atlantis's existence? As a matter of fact, Plato, in the years after he wrote about Atlantis, was ridiculed. That attitude still goes on to this day. Why is that?
About Atlantis, was that civilization responsible for the ruins on the island of Malta? Over the Mediterranean, one finds lots and lots of megalithic structures, was there a time when giant humans were alive on earth?
Was the first dynasty of Egypt the descendants of people from Atlantis? The so called king Menes?
The green Libyan glass that is found in the desert, what caused that? And why did the ancient Egyptians worship Osiris? Who was Osiris?
Thank you

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Are any of the diseases that humans suffer from today a result of genetic engineering? Either in our distant past or more recently?
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out of all the "gods" and deities you have come across in your work did any stand out as supreme?
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Define "gods".
We don't know enough to differantiete
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by gods I meant people that are revered and worshiped at one point in time as being supreme to the average man

zeus, jesus, krishna, buddha, ect
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has the concept of love always been around?

as in a man and woman love each other so they get married stay together ect

and the love you have for your children. so you keep them and raise them.


or was history more full of arranged marriages that focused more on business than love

and the norm was to sell the kids off as cheap labor to the rich



i guess what i'm asking is....

was the concept of love or being in love with another person always around or is this a more modern emotion cultivated and created by people who want to sell boxes of chocolates, roses, and greeting cards.
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Alterwelt, please tell us how it can be true?

"Inifnite number of realities exist." and "There is only one reality."

Isn't it a paradox?
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Good afternoon, OP. I'm not certain if this subject has been covered as I have not read through this entire thread. In regards to the more recent phenomenon of "The Secret" is there truth to manifesting your wants and desires specifically through the power of positive thought?
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Can you please offer insight on the origins of Zoroastrianism? Is it older than experts purport? What is the nature of the man who invented it?

And the relation/origin of the Mithras - Serapis characters?
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That room full of bull horns from many years ago - why did people used to worship cattle? The Hindus have remnants of the superstition still.

Cattle?Really?? Am I mistaken, these people didn't really worship cows did they?
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Can you please offer insight on the origins of Zoroastrianism? Is it older than experts purport? What is the nature of the man who invented it?

And the relation/origin of the Mithras - Serapis characters?
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The zoroastranians were Atlanteans who sailed away from the destruction of Atlantis sinking. They were the original gnostics, essentially, a group who tried to bring science to the primitive culture where their boat landed. Their knowledge included the sciences, including the divination science that's now forgotten.

Now Zoroastraniasm is just an allegory religion for a particular way of thinking, but the data is long lost.
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Hello Alterwelt

Can you please tell us more information about the chocolate hills in Bohol? It has 1268 mounds almost identical shapes and sizes with each other. I theorized it many years ago that there must be structures hidden under those mounds from a lost civilization.

Would those be pyramids and for what purpose did that civilization used them and which civilization was that?

Thanks and love and light to you all.
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Hello Alterwelt

Can you please tell us more information about the chocolate hills in Bohol? It has 1268 mounds almost identical shapes and sizes with each other. I theorized it many years ago that there must be structures hidden under those mounds from a lost civilization.

Would those be pyramids and for what purpose did that civilization used them and which civilization was that?

Thanks and love and light to you all.
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[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

the grassy hills were once coral reefs that erupted from the sea in a massive geologic shift. Wind and water put on the finishing touches over hundreds of thousands of years.[13]

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Can you please offer insight on the origins of Zoroastrianism? Is it older than experts purport? What is the nature of the man who invented it?

And the relation/origin of the Mithras - Serapis characters?
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No, Zoroastrianism is as your history dates it, it's essentially a religion of logic and social order which recognizes the neccesity of good will and truth. It came from older religions of similar outlook.
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Good afternoon, OP. I'm not certain if this subject has been covered as I have not read through this entire thread. In regards to the more recent phenomenon of "The Secret" is there truth to manifesting your wants and desires specifically through the power of positive thought?
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We're not Gurus.
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Can you please offer insight on the origins of Zoroastrianism? Is it older than experts purport? What is the nature of the man who invented it?

And the relation/origin of the Mithras - Serapis characters?
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No, Zoroastrianism is as your history dates it, it's essentially a religion of logic and social order which recognizes the neccesity of good will and truth. It came from older religions of similar outlook.
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Zoroastrianism originated in Sumeria?
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Can you please offer insight on the origins of Zoroastrianism? Is it older than experts purport? What is the nature of the man who invented it?

And the relation/origin of the Mithras - Serapis characters?
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No, Zoroastrianism is as your history dates it, it's essentially a religion of logic and social order which recognizes the neccesity of good will and truth. It came from older religions of similar outlook.
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While I believe having a sense of spirituality is important, is religion necessary?

Has there been a collective group of people that lived successfully without practicing religion or has every society had religion at one point or another?
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Hello Alterwelt

Can you please tell us more information about the chocolate hills in Bohol? It has 1268 mounds almost identical shapes and sizes with each other. I theorized it many years ago that there must be structures hidden under those mounds from a lost civilization.

Would those be pyramids and for what purpose did that civilization used them and which civilization was that?

Thanks and love and light to you all.
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[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

the grassy hills were once coral reefs that erupted from the sea in a massive geologic shift. Wind and water put on the finishing touches over hundreds of thousands of years.[13]
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Please do not answer this. This is for Alterwelt and not for you. I really would like to know what he says about it. I know how to google and I've seen this article before. I do not relate to this.

I would appreciate you keep your opinion to yourself if not asked.

Thank you.

To Alterwelt ....please respond to my question and hope you will give a clearer perspective on this. Thanks a bunch!:)
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bernstein?
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OP

what do you or your group know of Baphomet?
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Hello Alterwelt

Can you please tell us more information about the chocolate hills in Bohol? It has 1268 mounds almost identical shapes and sizes with each other. I theorized it many years ago that there must be structures hidden under those mounds from a lost civilization.

Would those be pyramids and for what purpose did that civilization used them and which civilization was that?

Thanks and love and light to you all.
 Quoting: Swissy 16945814


[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

the grassy hills were once coral reefs that erupted from the sea in a massive geologic shift. Wind and water put on the finishing touches over hundreds of thousands of years.[13]
 Quoting: George B


Please do not answer this. This is for Alterwelt and not for you. I really would like to know what he says about it. I know how to google and I've seen this article before. I do not relate to this.

I would appreciate you keep your opinion to yourself if not asked.

Thank you.

To Alterwelt ....please respond to my question and hope you will give a clearer perspective on this. Thanks a bunch!:)
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1) I did not answer your question, if I had it would have been with a quote from Altetwelt.

2) I gave available info so people unfamiliar, including myself, would know something of the subject.

3) Alterwelt either answers a question or ignores it no matter what anyone else does in response to any post.

4) I did the above because I thought your question was a good one or I would not have wasted my time.

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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Hello Alterwelt

Can you please tell us more information about the chocolate hills in Bohol? It has 1268 mounds almost identical shapes and sizes with each other. I theorized it many years ago that there must be structures hidden under those mounds from a lost civilization.

Would those be pyramids and for what purpose did that civilization used them and which civilization was that?

Thanks and love and light to you all.
 Quoting: Swissy 16945814


[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

the grassy hills were once coral reefs that erupted from the sea in a massive geologic shift. Wind and water put on the finishing touches over hundreds of thousands of years.[13]
 Quoting: George B


Please do not answer this. This is for Alterwelt and not for you. I really would like to know what he says about it. I know how to google and I've seen this article before. I do not relate to this.

I would appreciate you keep your opinion to yourself if not asked.

Thank you.

To Alterwelt ....please respond to my question and hope you will give a clearer perspective on this. Thanks a bunch!:)
 Quoting: Swissy 66104994

1) I did not answer your question, if I had it would have been with a quote from Altetwelt.

2) I gave available info so people unfamiliar, including myself, would know something of the subject.

3) Alterwelt either answers a question or ignores it no matter what anyone else does in response to any post.

4) I did the above because I thought your question was a good one or I would not have wasted my time.
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Hello Alterwelt

Can you please tell us more information about the chocolate hills in Bohol? It has 1268 mounds almost identical shapes and sizes with each other. I theorized it many years ago that there must be structures hidden under those mounds from a lost civilization.

Would those be pyramids and for what purpose did that civilization used them and which civilization was that?

Thanks and love and light to you all.
 Quoting: Swissy 16945814


[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

the grassy hills were once coral reefs that erupted from the sea in a massive geologic shift. Wind and water put on the finishing touches over hundreds of thousands of years.[13]
 Quoting: George B


Please do not answer this. This is for Alterwelt and not for you. I really would like to know what he says about it. I know how to google and I've seen this article before. I do not relate to this.

I would appreciate you keep your opinion to yourself if not asked.

Thank you.

To Alterwelt ....please respond to my question and hope you will give a clearer perspective on this. Thanks a bunch!:)
 Quoting: Swissy 66104994

1) I did not answer your question, if I had it would have been with a quote from Altetwelt.

2) I gave available info so people unfamiliar, including myself, would know something of the subject.

3) Alterwelt either answers a question or ignores it no matter what anyone else does in response to any post.

4) I did the above because I thought your question was a good one or I would not have wasted my time.
 Quoting: George B


'Your available info was not desired. To say this again, I do not relate to wiki. You putting unwanted info mixing with my own personal query is burying my question. Can you stop, please?

Thanks. :)

Again, this is for Alterwelt.





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