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Does being grateful to God mean being indebted?

 
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Does being grateful to God mean being indebted?
"And what is Jehovah asking back from you but to exercise justice and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God?" Mi6:8


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Bankers got your indebtness balls.

You going to prayer to them too?
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"And what is Jehovah asking back from you but to exercise justice and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God?" Mi6:8

 Quoting: DGN


Well, let's put it this way:



"You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.”- Revelation 4:11
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No.
There is nothing quite as compelling as a bad idea whose time has come...
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No.
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Is that your final answer?
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"And what is Jehovah asking back from you but to exercise justice and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God?" Mi6:8

 Quoting: DGN


Well, let's put it this way:



"You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.”- Revelation 4:11
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes but few humadroids have the spiritual consciousness to be grateful... most are enslaved to denying God's gifts and bowing down to the sy/fy cult of 'evolution'.
"because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22 Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping things." Ro1:119
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Re: Does being grateful to God mean being indebted?
Being grateful is not a debt.

I'm grateful to my parents for bringing me into this world. I still got a birthday card from my mother one year telling me how glad she is that she didn't abort me like she wanted to.

I'm grateful to God for all there is, everything I can enjoy.

Life is sweet. Regardless of how bad it can get it's still better than having never been.

Doesn't mean I owe anybody anything.

Life is a gift. The best way to say thank you for a gift is to enjoy it.

A gift does not come with a debt.
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Being grateful is not a debt.

I'm grateful to my parents for bringing me into this world. I still got a birthday card from my mother one year telling me how glad she is that she didn't abort me like she wanted to.

I'm grateful to God for all there is, everything I can enjoy.

Life is sweet. Regardless of how bad it can get it's still better than having never been.

Doesn't mean I owe anybody anything.

Life is a gift. The best way to say thank you for a gift is to enjoy it.

A gift does not come with a debt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41363484


That is an extremely nice expression


As was once written

"Better to know love and life than to have never loved and lived at all"
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Being grateful is not a debt.

I'm grateful to my parents for bringing me into this world. I still got a birthday card from my mother one year telling me how glad she is that she didn't abort me like she wanted to.

I'm grateful to God for all there is, everything I can enjoy.

Life is sweet. Regardless of how bad it can get it's still better than having never been.

Doesn't mean I owe anybody anything.

Life is a gift. The best way to say thank you for a gift is to enjoy it.

A gift does not come with a debt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41363484


Right, it's an opportunity to celebrate the giver;
"Do not be misled, my beloved brothers. 17 Every good gift and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the [celestial] lights, and with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow. 18 Because he willed it, he brought us forth by the word of truth, for us to be certain firstfruits of his creatures." Ja1:16
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Being grateful is not a debt.

I'm grateful to my parents for bringing me into this world. I still got a birthday card from my mother one year telling me how glad she is that she didn't abort me like she wanted to.

I'm grateful to God for all there is, everything I can enjoy.

Life is sweet. Regardless of how bad it can get it's still better than having never been.

Doesn't mean I owe anybody anything.

Life is a gift. The best way to say thank you for a gift is to enjoy it.

A gift does not come with a debt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41363484


Right, it's an opportunity to celebrate the giver;
"Do not be misled, my beloved brothers. 17 Every good gift and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the [celestial] lights, and with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow. 18 Because he willed it, he brought us forth by the word of truth, for us to be certain firstfruits of his creatures." Ja1:16
 Quoting: DGN




Because God is a happy GOd


"according to the glorious good news of the happy God, with which I was entrusted.'- 1 Timothy 1:11
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Re: Does being grateful to God mean being indebted?
True Christians or Jews have no debt
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True Christians or Jews have no debt
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" Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God, 5 YOU yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it is contained in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone, chosen, a foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment.”
7 It is to YOU, therefore, that he is precious, because YOU are believers; but to those not believing, “the identical stone that the builders rejected has become [the] head of [the] corner,” 8 and “a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense.” These are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were also appointed. 9 But YOU are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that YOU should declare abroad the excellencies” of the one that called YOU out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 For YOU were once not a people, but are now God’s people; YOU were those who had not been shown mercy, but are now those who have been shown mercy." 1Pe2:4
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Re: Does being grateful to God mean being indebted?
True Christians or Jews have no debt
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
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True Christians or Jews have no debt
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

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True Christians or Jews have no debt
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
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True Christians or Jews have no debt
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Ignoramus Phd here, an ohhh yeah I knew there would be a catch, there's always a catch.... responsibility... that rip off Golden Rule thing.... there's never something for nothing, I'm sooo beyond that.
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Ignoramus Phd here, an ohhh yeah I knew there would be a catch, there's always a catch.... responsibility... that rip off Golden Rule thing.... there's never something for nothing, I'm sooo beyond that.
agumball
 Quoting: DGN

Guess that is why your name is Amos Ignoramus?
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Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Ignoramus Phd here, an ohhh yeah I knew there would be a catch, there's always a catch.... responsibility... that rip off Golden Rule thing.... there's never something for nothing, I'm sooo beyond that.
agumball
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Guess that is why your name is Amos Ignoramus?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

Look CM I am close partners with renounced evolutionary 'biologist' Richard Dawkins who has risen above mundane scientific issues like 'fossil evidence', (what ever that is), which confuse and contradict intellectual theories against intelligent design and DNA blueprints so..... do some researchchokechoke.
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Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Ignoramus Phd here, an ohhh yeah I knew there would be a catch, there's always a catch.... responsibility... that rip off Golden Rule thing.... there's never something for nothing, I'm sooo beyond that.
agumball
 Quoting: DGN

Guess that is why your name is Amos Ignoramus?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

Look CM I am close partners with renounced evolutionary 'biologist' Richard Dawkins who has risen above mundane scientific issues like 'fossil evidence', (what ever that is), which confuse and contradict intellectual theories against intelligent design and DNA blueprints so..... do some researchchokechoke.
 Quoting: DGN


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Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos the Famous Ignoramus Phd here, an ohhh yeah I knew there would be a catch, there's always a catch.... responsibility... that rip off Golden Rule thing.... there's never something for nothing, I'm sooo beyond that.
agumball
 Quoting: DGN

Guess that is why your name is Amos Ignoramus?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Amos here in rebuttal and at the university "Ignoramus' means 'bought, or golden one'. As in he who has the gold makes the Golden Rule.
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What do you hope to achieve from these posts.?


Really?

Recruits or change a RCC to JW?

Why?

This is the amount of people whose opinion has been changed by you= 0
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True Christians or Jews have no debt
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I think that is why sparrows sing so well.
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No?.................



"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and continually follow me"- Matthew 16:24
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I think that is why sparrows sing so well.
 Quoting: butters007


and flies so well.

To give simple glory to God...
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Really?

Recruits or change a RCC to JW?

Why?

This is the amount of people whose opinion has been changed by you= 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


Oh, so you know the heart condition and thought process of every single person, wow. where do you get such powers?
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Really?

Recruits or change a RCC to JW?

Why?

This is the amount of people whose opinion has been changed by you= 0
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It's not granted to me to make wisdom grow, but only to cast kingdom seed;
"But his disciples began to ask him what this illustration might mean. 10 He said: “To YOU it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of God, but for the rest it is in illustrations, in order that, though looking, they may look in vain and, though hearing, they may not get the meaning. 11 Now the illustration means this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those alongside the road are the ones that have heard, then the Devil comes and takes the word away from their hearts in order that they may not believe and be saved. 13 Those upon the rock-mass are the ones who, when they hear it, receive the word with joy, but these have no root; they believe for a season, but in a season of testing they fall away. 14 As for that which fell among the thorns, these are the ones that have heard, but, by being carried away by anxieties and riches and pleasures of this life, they are completely choked and bring nothing to perfection. 15 As for that on the fine soil, these are the ones that, after hearing the word with a fine and good heart, retain it and bear fruit with endurance.' Lk8:9
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Really?

Recruits or change a RCC to JW?

Why?

This is the amount of people whose opinion has been changed by you= 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


Oh, so you know the heart condition and thought process of every single person, wow. where do you get such powers?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden






Its very clear from your Karma and the replies you get.

Its the Power of observation Shirlock !
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Yes.... and that's not a debt but rather a relese

 Quoting: DGN


Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I think that is why sparrows sing so well.
 Quoting: butters007


and flies so well.

To give simple glory to God...
 Quoting: butters007



" Do not two sparrows sell for a coin of small value? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground without YOUR Father’s [knowledge]. 30 But the very hairs of YOUR head are all numbered. 31 Therefore have no fear: YOU are worth more than many sparrows."- Matthew 10:29-31
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Yes, a release, as Jesus said:

"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free- John 17;17
But with that comes a responsibility to show appreciation back, it is not a "once saved, always saved" life
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


I think that is why sparrows sing so well.
 Quoting: butters007


and flies so well.

To give simple glory to God...
 Quoting: butters007



" Do not two sparrows sell for a coin of small value? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground without YOUR Father’s [knowledge]. 30 But the very hairs of YOUR head are all numbered. 31 Therefore have no fear: YOU are worth more than many sparrows."- Matthew 10:29-31
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


And stop posting from 2 accounts to back yourself up.

Its just dumb and obvious.
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Really?

Recruits or change a RCC to JW?

Why?

This is the amount of people whose opinion has been changed by you= 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


Oh, so you know the heart condition and thought process of every single person, wow. where do you get such powers?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden






Its very clear from your Karma and the replies you get.

Its the Power of observation Shirlock !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


You obviously have not read all of the replies on every thread, a lot of people actually have great conversations with something quite valuable to share, ......

So answer the question posted......
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I think that is why sparrows sing so well.
 Quoting: butters007


and flies so well.

To give simple glory to God...
 Quoting: butters007



" Do not two sparrows sell for a coin of small value? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground without YOUR Father’s [knowledge]. 30 But the very hairs of YOUR head are all numbered. 31 Therefore have no fear: YOU are worth more than many sparrows."- Matthew 10:29-31
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


And stop posting from 2 accounts to back yourself up.

Its just dumb and obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


I love sparrows. House sparrows in these parts are quite bossy and aggressive. I love them still and love watching them. I feed them and they wait but still fly away when I fill the feeder.

I think I meant to relate to this thread in regard to swallows. I really love watching them fly they are the most daring and beautiful fliers.

I have seen the cliff swallows that fly up from S. America and used to build mud nests in my company's garage and I have seen them in Africa and Israel where they also build nests in the colder months.

I love all birds. I hate to see a bird of prey get the little ones. I found a dead bird in my yard today and it is sad to see anything dead but especially a bird that sings and flies like an angel.
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Really?

Recruits or change a RCC to JW?

Why?

This is the amount of people whose opinion has been changed by you= 0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


Oh, so you know the heart condition and thought process of every single person, wow. where do you get such powers?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden






Its very clear from your Karma and the replies you get.

Its the Power of observation Shirlock !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65950377


"‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ Jehovah of armies has said.
8 “‘The silver is mine, and the gold is mine,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies.
9 “‘Greater will the glory of this later house become than [that of] the former,’ Jehovah of armies has said.
“‘And in this place I shall give peace,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies.” Hag2:7





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