Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data, a Topical Index to Alterwelt's Alternate History

In my attempt to debunk or validate some of Alterwelt's factoids I found the following rather interesting. It seems a war with kinetic weapons could alter the Earth's rotation speed. . . See Below.
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11) Earth had a faster rotation before massive bombardments 32,000 years ago by rail gun pellets with the mass of small asteroids


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Earth's rotation changes

Japan Quake May Have Shortened Earth Days, Moved Axis


In comparison, following last year's magnitude 8.8 earthquake in Chile, Gross estimated the Chile quake should have shortened the length of day by about 1.26 microseconds and shifted Earth's figure axis by about 8 centimeters (3 inches). A similar calculation performed after the 2004 magnitude 9.1 Sumatran earthquake revealed it should have shortened the length of day by 6.8 microseconds and shifted Earth's figure axis by about 7 centimeters, or 2.76 inches. How an individual earthquake affects Earth's rotation depends on its size (magnitude), location and the details of how the fault slipped.
Gross said that, in theory, anything that redistributes Earth's mass will change Earth's rotation.


"Earth's rotation changes all the time as a result of not only earthquakes, but also the much larger effects of changes in atmospheric winds and oceanic currents," he said. "Over the course of a year, the length of the day increases and decreases by about a millisecond, or about 550 times larger than the change caused by the Japanese earthquake. The position of Earth's figure axis also changes all the time, by about 1 meter (3.3 feet) over the course of a year, or about six times more than the change that should have been caused by the Japan quake."

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83) Elves, Hobbits and other pre-humans, what happened?



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04/05/2015 07:54 PM

Re: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.
Further question on the non-human "Elves" that you say left the Earth around 75,000 years ago: this time period is associated with the "genetic bottleneck" in humans. It's been suggested this was due to a natural disaster like a supervolcano.Is there a connection between the departure of the non-humans and a disaster striking Earth? Seems very coincidental to me!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35332396
No, they kept leaving this planet for a long time, their exodus was a process, not a one time occurrence.
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11/26/2014 01:22 PM

Re: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.
Also J.R.R.Tolkien claimed that the Lord of the Rings was actually the real history of the Earth.Sounds like its possible!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23209860
Tolkien was privy to much information as a member of a secret society. His works are heavily allegorical and contain hidden facts.
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04/05/2015 05:48 PM

When Prometheus (pre-human species) shared gunpowder and hot air balloons (and other knowledge) with humans to combat the mega fauna, you said the pre-humans were pre-cognit and knew humans would inherit the earth. 1) Is this the allegory to J.R.R. Tokens scene where the Elves sail from Middle Earth with a few select Hobbits to leave the World to human domination?
 Quoting: George B
Correct, the dominant pre-human species left this world via unknown means.
2) You have implied that higher birth rates allowed humans to out compete the other humanoid races, but at this time in history ovulation rates were only once a year, what was the ovulation and birth rates of the other species?
 Quoting: George B
There have been other human species with a higher birth rate, also pre-humans had a significantly lower birth rate that allowed to keep a stable population with minimal growth, every war or disaster was a blow that required centuries to recuparate from.
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03/28/2015 11:19 AM

Re: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org] Your group has stated that JRR Tolkien's "Fellowship of the Rings", "Hobbit", etc. contain some garbled truth or veiled accuracy at some level. . . . could you give us a time interval where some version of his fantasy world might have existed?1) could it have been when humans and pre-humans coexisted before the comet near impact around 50,000 years ago?2) or was it (50,000-35,000 yrs ago) between the comet impact and the 2nd high human civilization? 3) or was it between the global war and the flood 12,300 years ago?4) or sometime after the flood and present time?
 Quoting: George B
All of these periods, Silmarilion was an epic work in which hundreds of facts are hidden in a manner that would require a biblical level of study.Tolkien was an enlightened scholar, privy to much knowledge and master of languages, he discovered a lot by himself, he was given even more by people who appreciated him.A master of his magnitude is so rare, it was a privelage to grant him knowledge regardless of one's creed or association.
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04/04/2015 02:01 PM

Re: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.
Does Tolkien's family know that his books contain information about our ancient past?
 Quoting: Aestland 2042686
They know a great lot but will not talk, they are appreciative of the value of what Tolkien created and hold their silence with responsibility and wisdom.
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04/05/2015 07:57 PM

Re: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.
2. Also you once wrote that:"All the non-human species are dead excepct for a few remnants, most of whom don't even remember they once had civilizations of their own."Can you tell us which current species stand for these remnants now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68832298
There is a diminutive race living in Himalayas in the deep caves, we're not aware of any other remnants.
3. The third question is about the post in which you told us that there are currently a few sentient earth based intelligent species beside homo sapien sapien. Can you tell us which one you had in mind, besides Big Foot?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68832298
A small people living in Himalayas and a species of man living in Siberia.
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So human history started 150,000 years ago with 3 civilizations achieving high technology on a global scale.

Before the first human civ, there were many different races evolved and attained a civilized status. They were tall, slender, bipedal and apparently attractive to our standards. They evolved from mammals like us but had a much different genetic makeup. Their subconscious and conscious were melded together resulting in them thinking much differently than us.

In their day to day lives they were mainly motivated by a deep intuitive process. People just “knew” when they met their spouse, when it was time for a vacation, as well as finding their role in society. People spent much less time thinking and more time just being.

They had love, humor, art and music but these were all coming from their subconscious minds. It's difficult to explain. Suffice to say that we developed logical faculties, creativity and imagination to deal with being severed from a subconscious reservoirs of knowledge which they had been connected to. This was both their strength and their weakness.

Another group of species were short and gave rise to the hobbits and dwarves of legend. Others were completely alien in their way of thinking. All were aware that humanity would inherit this world and were more or less hostile towards man.

Mankind is a species that was most suited to survival which is why we're still around and they're not. Their level of development was varied but they had a common trait which was a low birthrate. Such a disadvantage eliminates a species in times of hardship. During both the first high periods there were multiple species of human. It’s our high birth rate and survivor traits that led to our current reign on earth.

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Also see the following:

10) Lucifer, Prometheus is the same as Satan the Morning Star and was not a human but a pre-human species.













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03/28/2015 11:19 AM

Re: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data.
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org] Your group has stated that JRR Tolkien's "Fellowship of the Rings", "Hobbit", etc. contain some garbled truth or veiled accuracy at some level. . . . could you give us a time interval where some version of his fantasy world might have existed?1) could it have been when humans and pre-humans coexisted before the comet near impact around 50,000 years ago?2) or was it (50,000-35,000 yrs ago) between the comet impact and the 2nd high human civilization? 3) or was it between the global war and the flood 12,300 years ago?4) or sometime after the flood and present time?
Quoting: George B
All of these periods, Silmarilion was an epic work in which hundreds of facts are hidden in a manner that would require a biblical level of study.Tolkien was an enlightened scholar, privy to much knowledge and master of languages, he discovered a lot by himself, he was given even more by people who appreciated him.A master of his magnitude is so rare, it was a privelage to grant him knowledge regardless of one's creed or association.
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[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Silmarillion comprises five parts. The first part, Ainulindalë, tells of the creation of Eä, the "world that is". Valaquenta, the second part, gives a description of the Valar and Maiar, the supernatural powers in Eä. The next section, Quenta Silmarillion, which forms the bulk of the collection, chronicles the history of the events before and during the First Age, including the wars over the Silmarils that gave the book its title. The fourth part, Akallabêth, relates the history of the Downfall of Númenor and its people, which takes place in the Second Age. The final part, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, is a brief account of the circumstances which led to and were presented in The Lord of the Rings.

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Why do I keep coming back to the Alterwelt Thread? Good question? Seems no matter what I do, I return to see if there is something I have missed. You know the ultimate puzzle, the one where you just have to find the missing pieces to complete. The frustration is the pieces are not available. So one just keeps looking for something that either never existed or just is not available to the average person. Tantalized by the possibilities but prevented from the satisfaction of full discovery.

What to do? I don't really know except to remain patient and see what happens next.

Assuming Alterwelt is possibly attempting to share truth as they understand it, I am willing to hang around to analyze their attempts.

Anyway, I want to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving . . . while this holiday is not celebrated everywhere the idea is a rather universal. God's Speed to all!!
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They have returned.

I can confirm from various sources that I have come across over the years parts of Australia is indeed Lemuria/Mu.

Also I have read various sources of what the Alterwelt says about the 1st age post scarcity high civilisation is on point.

Atlantians were more into technology and science. Mu/Lemuria were more into natural healing and connecting with nature and earthly.

Can you tell us more about your sources of information?

Who cares.. we need to focus on our current civilization before it is gone.

So history is not important? What if it is the key to our survival?

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84) Central Park


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[link to cooperator.com]


New York is often called a “vertical” city because its finite borders impose strict limits on expansion. In Manhattan particularly, the only way to build is up. This verticality goes both ways, however—for all the towering skyscrapers aboveground, there’s an equally vast and Byzantine system of structures below the pavement. Gotham’s undercarriage is a honeycomb of steam tunnels, sewage mains, disused subway stations, and odd, empty spaces that city workers simply call “voids”—some of which are accessible to the public, some of which have been locked or sealed up for decades.
A steam tunnel beneath Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn, for example, was sealed during the Civil War for purposes of defense, and remained that way until its discovery by a City College engineering student in 1981—a subterranean highway, lost for more than a century.
There is a vast chamber under Central Park the size of the Sistine Chapel, where the sodium vapor lamps never go out. There are tunnels beneath Columbia University and the New York Public Library. A warren of unmapped passages can supposedly be found in the bowels of Chinatown, according to Herbert Asbury, a journalist and true crime writer, who is known for penning The Gangs of New York among other works. And Al Capone reportedly tunneled beneath the city like a mole, although tales of Capone and secret vaults are of questionable veracity. (Just ask Geraldo Rivera.)
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To mark the occasion—an historic event for the city—mayor Michael Bloomberg hosted a press conference two hundred feet below the surface of Central Park. It was to remain, we were reminded again and again, even by the mayor himself, an undisclosed location; we were not allowed to tell anyone where we were.

And you would never guess that this is what lies there—on the other side of a non-descript door you've probably already been past without noticing—that, after a short elevator ride sliding sixteen stories down, deeper than most subways, you would find this astonishing vaulted room.

[link to gizmodo.com]

[link to www.nyc.gov]

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It seems likely from the information above extensive excavation under Central Park has occurred and rather recently. It also appears that the authorities either removed considerable material or found existing massive open spaces for their water control project some 200 feet below the surface. Interesting its specific location is not allowed to be public knowledge. Kept secret for security reasons of course.

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85) The Margate Shell Grotto


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86) The American Buffalo

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87) The Ankh






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Proposed Poll on Animals . . .


Alterwelt's Alternate History on Animals . . . which single bit of Animal info is most fascinating to you?

1) Ancient lands were plagued by predatory animals so large and smart they engaged humans in prolong conflicts. (#7)
2) Mammoths were grazing animals of humans. (#12)
3) lizards were used as companion animals. (#34)
4) dolphins and whales were genetically engineered and dolphins were used as lifeguards. (#34)
5) Werewolves existed but were human variations that are now extinct. (#38)
6) Big Foot, Sasquatch, etc. exist and have unique capabilities. (#44)
7) Large carnivorous birds were once used as cavalry mounts. (#60)
8) Hopi Ant People were machines as were Golems. (#63)
9) Chupacabra are large predatory bats. (#70)
10) Cat and dog faced people existed but were not felines but humans that mimicked cat like features. a(#74)
11) Thunderbirds existed and were flying until well into the 1900s. (#79)
12) The American Buffalo were grazing animals used and herded by humans. (#86)

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7) predatory animals: Ancient lands were plagued by predatory animals so large and smart they actually engaged human settlers in prolonged conflicts.
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12) Mammoths were grazing animals of humans.


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34) Dogs and other companion animals including lizards and Dolphin lifeguards:


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38) Vampires and Werewolves

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44) Big Foot, Sasquatch:

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60) Large carnivorous birds once used as cavalry mounts.

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63) Hopi Ant People were machines as were Golems.

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70) Chupacabra: Click on the Letter Icon Below

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74) Humans, Pre-Humans, Racial Differences in Homo Sapiens, sapiens and racial differences of skin color, etc.
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79)Thunderbirds by Alterwelt:


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Proposed Poll on Animals . . .


Alterwelt's Alternate History on Animals . . . which single bit of Animal info is most fascinating to you?

1) Ancient lands were plagued by predatory animals so large and smart they engaged humans in prolong conflicts. (#7)
2) Mammoths were grazing animals of humans. (#12)
3) lizards were used as companion animals. (#34)
4) dolphins and whales were genetically engineered and dolphins were used as lifeguards. (#34)
5) Werewolves existed but were human variations that are now extinct. (#38)
6) Big Foot, Sasquatch, etc. exist and have unique capabilities. (#44)
7) Large carnivorous birds were once used as cavalry mounts. (#60)
8) Hopi Ant People were machines as were Golems. (#63)
9) Chupacabra are large predatory bats. (#70)
10) Cat and dog faced people existed but were not felines but humans that mimicked cat like features. a(#74)
11) Thunderbirds existed and were flying until well into the 1900s. (#79)
12) The American Buffalo were grazing animals used and herded by humans. (#86)

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Poll has been launched!!!!!

Thread: Alterwelt's Alternate History on Animals . . . which single bit of Animal info is most fascinating to you?

Wow, you have created an amazing thread. I still haven't looked at the first hundred page copy of Alterwalt that I found in my computer downloads. I voted for Shambala.

Thanks for your interest!

Those are my favorite flowers!

Fantastic! . . . this is mine. . .

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88) Midas

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89) Cain and Abel

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Similar historical story. . . [link to www.pilotguides.com]


"In 1814, it seemed that twenty five years of war in Europe was finally coming to an end with the surrender of the Emperor Napoleon and his banishment to the Mediterranean island of Elba.
The European powers began the task of restoring their continent to normality and peace.
However, on 1st March 1815 Napoleon escaped from Elba and landed in France. Nineteen days later he was in Paris and resumed his title as Emperor. His army rallied to him. The soldiers who had been captured during the years of fighting had been released enabling Napoleon to reform his Grande Armée.
The Duke of Wellington and European allies had to reassemble their armies and prepare to resume the war to overthrow the Emperor yet again.
Napoleon and Duke of Wellington –two old enemies and the greatest captains of their age, whose armies fought against one each other on the Iberian Peninsula during the Peninsular War – meet for their final battle at Waterloo."

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Seems Alterwelt is refusing to explain how there can be multiple realities (universes) and only one reality where all living and the dead reside.

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90) Spring Heeled Jack

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03/07/2015 09:09 AM

Hey Alterwelt, you coming back or did something scare you away? Upon your return, a question: who or what was behind the London sightings of Spring Heeled Jack in 1837?
 Quoting: Zombie Chick

We have been busy, the project will be continued but we cannot guarantee constant commitment, our resources are required elsewhere.A person using an experimental mobility device, the royal court ordered an attempt to reverse engineer an item found in Africa - it was test driven by one of the artisans, he broke his back when the device malfunctioned, the project was scrapped.
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91) Quetzalcoatl

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Proposed new Poll . . .

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What historical person from Alterwelt’s Alternate History most fascinates you?

1) Lucifer/ Prometheus (# 10)
2) King Arthur (# 16)
3) J.R.R. Tolkien (# 47)
4) Le Comte de St. Germain (# 47)
5) Midas (# 88)
6) Mona Lisa (of the Moon) (# 52)
7) Joan of Arc (# 56)
8) Moses (# 71)
9) Tesla (# 72)
10)Spring Heeled Jack (#90)
11) Quetzalcoatl (# 91)
12) Paul of Tarsus (#92)

4) Edgar Cayce (# 36)
3) Odin and Thor (#17)
Mary Magdalene (# 20)
Joseph of Arimathea (# 20)
Cain and Able (# 89)

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92) Paul of Tarsus

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