Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data, a Topical Index to Alterwelt's Alternate History

It exists, it is not available to the public however and never will be.

They are authentic insofar as Paul writing most of them.

Yes.

Unlikely.


Yes.

I feel i owe you people and who's going to buy anything know anyway?

1. Have some actual knowledge, you don't get to spice up things that are not there, either you know your topics or you don't.

2. Do not engage in personal exchanges. Most people will be dumber than you or at the very least have less knowledge than you, either way dropping to their level will make you look bad.

Every single member of the project was ordered not to fucking stoop to the level, the person who admitted to being tired got separated for the duration for breaking protocol.

3. Have good literary skills, what you were given were facts, not opinions, how and why's is not something you get but even the most fascinating truth needs solid narration.

4. Do not engage into spiritual discussion, of course we know a lot. You don't get where we are without knowing a lot about spirituality but the moment we engage some nutcase he's going to murder us with absolutely idiotic questions.

Eventually a solid discussion will develop into a clusterfuck of wild theories as more nutcases pile on each other and the message we tried to convey dies under a pile of dead brains.

5. ETs. Yes they exist, they keep woozing around but think logically why the bloody hell would they ever intervene? What would be the actuall point. They're either so high above they don't give a shit or so down below they keep beeping radio signals at us.

6. Ignoring questions. Some questions were actually cringeworthy. We came to have a chat about what was, were pretty clear about it and people start asking about how the universe was created... Others were spiritual both got ignored.

7. Jesus, we had to pull another guy who specialized in that jewish beardface since you people drilled so hard we reached our own limits.

8. Fatima&co what happens there is wrong and scary.
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9. Paxton went ahead and kept posting irresponsibly when it was supposed to be a carefully targeted project. No we did not off him, he just got a position where he can just cuss at us.

10. We pulled out because the people involved were too exhausted to continue, we never suspected the target group to develop the thread into more than 100 pages.

11. We. Hate. New Age. Associating us with some book or some nutjob who masturbates over his own garage theories about whatever is an insult. We're actually not familiar with any authors or books because among people like us the society of new age is a joke.

12. Everything i said above is a complete lie and i'm an internet troll fucking with you.

Ps. personally i really like you guys, i wish we could chat more frequently and ended this thing differently but you know us trolls, we just love to fuck with you.


Goodnight.

In the three Threads it was mentioned that the Ancient Antlantians developed an understanding of the spirit realm. There they found a higher life force and lower life forces. These lower entities we would probably refer to as demons. In fact, our friends indicated that the Nazi like civilization which lead to the enslavement of entire nations communicated with these lower life forms and received technoglogy in exchange for ritual payment in kind including living sacrifices, if I remember correctly. What if our friends saw these supernatural demonstrations as interference in/or to these entities at Fatima and Medjugorje!

After Fatima: Russian Revolution & WWI
After Medjugorje: War and Ethnic Cleansing in Breakup of Yugoslavia. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

By-the-way: Same thing occurred in Rwanda before the blood shed there. . .

After Rwanda: Our Lady of Kibeho, [link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.medjugorjetoday.tv (secure)]
[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.sciencemag.org]

Genomic structure in Europeans dating back at least 36,200 years

A history re-write. Right timing for 2nd civilization

Gunpowder and hot air baloons. They allowed original societies to finally expand. Before that people were not really able to hunt the local fauna. The predators were too large, too smart of both.

Once humanity developed effective gunpowder weapons and unpowered flight mass hunting parties pushed the borders of small societies, hunted the local predators to near extinction and allowed for agriculture to develop.

Can you elaborate more on the predatory species with which we competed?

Mostly mammals, very distant ancestors to modern bears, large predatory felines and canines, also some non-flying predatory birds.

These animals were massive, wolves the size of today Tigers and felines larger than modern bears.

There were hundreds of predator species, but its not their size and strength but their intelligence that put them apart, in those times all life forms were much longer lived and considerably smarter, to the point that animal predators understood the concept of strategy or retaliation, this made predatory animals supremely dangerous.

Non-human civilisations all had either technology or superior abilities or both, humans were just emerging from tribal stage of development and thus were severely threatened by these beasts.

Reproduction of an original burial shroud.

Reproduction of an original.

Anyone ask about the STONE SPHERES yet? Such as the one found in Costa Rica.

What was their purpose? Who created them? ETC.

Doesn't seem to add up. The largest found in CR was 8 tons, IIRC. If a pipe contained them, they'd all have been similar size, no? Not to mention some appear to rest in alignment...

The Pyramids when conceived had threefold purpose. To the government of the land on which Egypt lies today they were shown as hydroelectric power plants, water coursed through them in a specific manner and they generated enough electricity to power the entire region.

The other reason was for them to be a marker, an epitaph for the old world. Their builders knew that the Ice Age would end with catastrophic results. This was meant as a show of skill, to make the future generations think and wonder even if all else would be forgotten.

A massive underground complex was built under them to house what records could be stowed away.


No, the third one did but the first and second did not build them.


No, he was just a brilliant man with access to some old records and a mind that allowed him to retro-engineer what he discovered.

Moses used a chemical concoction to poison Nile upstream, as a result old, infirm and young died after drinking water.

The hail of fire and darkness was also him using a device that back then was installed in the Great Pyramid of Giza, the device was old and illmaintained, it blew up in the process leaving the interior scorched and cracked to this day. The rest is artistic license.

After that the Pharaoh had the broken device uninstalled leaving only the stone shell we see today.

There once existed a network of powerhouses that drew energy from the earths magnetic core. They were built like fortresses but during the war even they were damaged.

This damage made them slowly, gradually destabilize what was left of the old world.

It is not.

They interacted with earth's magnetic core.

This question was skipped.

All facilities are located in the northern edge of Sea of Tranquility and within the surrounding mountains.

There exist at least one large scale facility and dozens smaller ones. All of them have been mapped and photographed, only one was actually accessed.

There's examples of technology still present and functioning on the moon that if brought to earth might prove to be a global threat, everyone realised it's not safe to continue, nobody wished for an extinction level event.

Wow! George B, good work! I loved reading all that.

Alterwelt would be so proud. Wonder if he's viewing you now to see what we're doing with what he gave us?

Waving to Alterwelt!

18) Shroud of Turin
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Although I believe the legitimacy of their information, this specific piece I wasn't keen on. Why and how would you reproduce a blood soaked linen? I get the importance, but why reproduce it? Why reveal it at all? Would be very difficult to reproduce and keep carbon dating accurate. Just doesn't make sense to me. Either keep it secret or show the real deal. Too much effort and risk with no real reward to fake it. What's the benefit of faking it if not monetary? If it's to prove religious history why make a fake? I don't get it.

A rich but somber member of one of the secret societies in America, he believed the world would end, it cost him more than 40.000 dollars.

Joke's on him.

People from whom the tradition of druidism originated. It's a permanent structure erected some 6.000 years ago. Prior to it a wooden structure was in place and was first erected more than 10.000 years ago when a people fleeing the results of a changing climate settled in England.

This monument in both its forms was erected as a ritual claim of the land, it essentially tells a bystanted "this is our new home".
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Presumably aliens exist. We never focused on them and yes, our history was not at any point influenced by any extraterrestrial beings.

I feel i owe you people and who's going to buy anything know anyway?

1. Have some actual knowledge, you don't get to spice up things that are not there, either you know your topics or you don't.
2. Do not engage in personal exchanges. Most people will be dumber than you or at the very least have less knowledge than you, either way dropping to their level will make you look bad.
Every single member of the project was ordered not to fucking stoop to the level, the person who admitted to being tired got separated for the duration for breaking protocol.
3. Have good literary skills, what you were given were facts, not opinions, how and why's is not something you get but even the most fascinating truth needs solid narration.
4. Do not engage into spiritual discussion, of course we know a lot. You don't get where we are without knowing a lot about spirituality but the moment we engage some nutcase he's going to murder us with absolutely idiotic questions.
Eventually a solid discussion will develop into a clusterfuck of wild theories as more nutcases pile on each other and the message we tried to convey dies under a pile of dead brains.
5. ETs. Yes they exist, they keep woozing around but think logically why the bloody hell would they ever intervene? What would be the actuall point. They're either so high above they don't give a shit or so down below they keep beeping radio signals at us.
6. Ignoring questions. Some questions were actually cringeworthy. We came to have a chat about what was, were pretty clear about it and people start asking about how the universe was created... Others were spiritual both got ignored.
7. Jesus, we had to pull another guy who specialized in that jewish beardface since you people drilled so hard we reached our own limits.
8. Fatima&co what happens there is wrong and scary.
9. Paxton went ahead and kept posting irresponsibly when it was supposed to be a carefully targeted project. No we did not off him, he just got a position where he can just cuss at us.
10. We pulled out because the people involved were too exhausted to continue, we never suspected the target group to develop the thread into more than 100 pages.
11. We. Hate. New Age. Associating us with some book or some nutjob who masturbates over his own garage theories about whatever is an insult. We're actually not familiar with any authors or books because among people like us the society of new age is a joke.
12. Everything i said above is a complete lie and i'm an internet troll fucking with you.

Ps. personally i really like you guys, i wish we could chat more frequently and ended this thing differently but you know us trolls, we just love to fuck with you.


Goodnight.

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06/01/2013 @ 3:08 AM

06/01/2013 @ 11:56 AM

06/01/2013 @12:17 PM

Yes.

The pole shifts as new age movements define them never existed.

The complex at Giza was being built because the people of that period perfected divination as hard science and for a long time received a consistent information that their world would end.

Some time before the end the geological instability of remnant of Atlantis was discovered and various projects such as time capsules containing records and migrations to perceived safezones started.


The smithsonian university warehouses. Artifacts from all periods can be found including records, functional technological artifacts in operational state and
mortal remains of ancient people. The inventory of items appropriated by people affiliated with this particular university numbers hundreds of thousands.

Yes, in Libya, it's a core of an ancient energy generation device. No longer
operational, still heavily radioactive.

Mankind never reached a level in which it was capable of interstellar travel. There were period when space travel was possible and practised far more intensly than today but never to a point where full fledged colonisation was possible.

Yes there are multiple facilities on the moon, some quite extensive, they existed for purposes of research and low gravity manufacture. Once the civilization that built them was destroyed their inhabitants went back home once
they exhausted their resources.

Holy Grail is an allegory. Arthur - a centurion drawn from the locals sought a location where Tuath Danann, ancient refugees from a different period stored their artifacts of scientific nature.

Merlin was one of hereditary caretakers, his magic is science, medicine and mechanical devices as witnessed by early dark age society.

Given the genetic branching there must be tens of thousands of descendants of Jesus but no they're not special. The reasons for Jesus' being special were not
his genes.

Yes. The attack was needed to schock the nation into going to war.



There was a second one.

No. One was an accident, the other was a tragic oversight.

Yes they did.

We partially are. Yes they are.

Dolphins were once trained as a sort of lifeguards animals similar to the Bernardine dog breed a reflex that still exists among some of their species.

Approximately 100.000 years ago.

Yes

Animals feel an instinctive need to cater to human emotional faults. It's a natural requirement of balance.

In return they aquire intelligence above their natural capacity via interaction with a more complex being.

Yes, in his time Jesus made it clear that organized religion is inferior to an individual approach.

He and his compatriots did not believe mankind to be wise enough to handle such a path, they were the first to come up with the concept of shepherding the faithfull.


Yes. Jesus viewed mankind as ready for a humanistic, individual approach, this view was not popular among his inner circle.


No i don't.

No.


He, along with Mary Magdalene opposed church as an institution, he was killed and villified for it, she was cast out and branded a prostitute by history. The other apostles saw the church to rise not as a means of expressing faith but as an institution to guide and regulate the actions of the faithfull.

20) Jesus:




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Jesus had a twin brother and a younger sister. No Mary was not a virgin, Joseph of Arimathea was her husband and the father of three children.

As a note of interest he was rich. Mary gave birth in a spacious house near Jerusalem, one of several he owned.

Saint Paul is responsible for creating the Church, he did so expressly against the wishes of Jesus.

Yes he was.


He ceirtanly invented the Church.

Wife of Jesus Christ, mother of his children.

The city council.


An attempt at creating an artificial island with an added benefit of local weather control, unfinished due to insufficient resources on the part of the builders.

Her real name was Mary of Magdala. She became Jesus' wife long before he set on his journey of discovery, she lived with Josef and Mary during Jesus' absence.


We don't know, it was a regular fire, two thirds of Moscow was wood and it went off like a bonfire.

Thank you.
Reproduction of an original?
Shroud is Jesus?
Humor?
Sorry if I'm being dense.

16) King Arthur


Merlin, Jesus' Children, Arthur, holy Grail

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The Tuath(a) Dé Danann (usually translated as "people(s)/tribe(s) of the goddess Danu"), also known by the earlier name Tuath Dé ("tribe of the gods"),[1] are a race of supernaturally-gifted people in Irish mythology. They are thought to represent the main deities of pre-Christian Gaelic Ireland.

Much of Irish mythology was recorded by Christian monks, who modified it to an extent. They generally depicted the Tuath Dé as kings, queens and heroes of the distant past who had supernatural powers or who were later credited with them. However, some writers acknowledged that they were once worshipped as gods.


Other Items of Interest not in Poll:

16) King Arthur was real.
Arthur was a centurion in the roman legions, drawn from the local population he established a small kingdom where he attempted to marry Christianity with Druidism.
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One of the main reasons I think there is something to their efforts is their last Post:


24) Final remarks and possible motives of RV Group

Last Post is found first below from the RV Group.

Alter-welt
User ID: 22599203
Poland
12/02/2014 08:01 PM


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I would bet he was looking at satellite images to validate if the coordinates were not covered by concrete or other obstructions. The coordinates could be from a source we don't have a clue about unless there is some old survey done in the past. He said something about over 70,000 sites.

I wanted to ask a follow-up to Alterwelt, about the grail. If the bloodline isn't so special, was it hardly any of the grail can trace their bloodline? It seems those records have been tampered with. I also know, that many kings and queens hid their written lineage so their descendants could inherit that knowledge.

Sounds plausible. And, it is another valid point to the authenticity of their group.

Correct.

There is no single factor, lunar gravity, ocean currents, amount of ice, ozone thickness and more.

Today the global geology is stable, you have an impression of constant calamity because global news provide you with information on such matters wherever they happen.

It was a medical device that survived into roman times and late medieval. It healed the body. It did not allow for tansformation of matter though. That part was added later as dramatic license by unknown sources.

Almost a hundred thousand years. The ozone layer was much thicker letting less radiation in. This resulted in overall larger size of animal life, longer lifespans and healthier bodies.

These people were also the first iteration of mankind, not yet damaged by genetic modification, harsh climate and aided by advanced technology, all of this provided them with a much higher quality of life and physical endurance.



No, our civilization was always centered on earth.

Multiple events,the greatest contributor was a global war 32.000 years ago, the destruction poisoned the atmosphere to a point of steady degeneration of the layer. Our current industry aids this process.

No it does not, current geology is based on insufficient scientific knowledge and commits many errors as a result.

To some degree.

Most do, others are hastened or ended artificially.