Homeschooled kids are far SUPERIOR to their peers in all regards. | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45517710 United States 12/10/2014 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about sheltering them because that is not the case. I can't speak for other people but this is why I homeschool. 1. Superior academics and education. 2. Schools are not like they used to be. Modern schools are government institutions that push homosexuality and other fraudulent issues on children where it is completely in appropriate. My kids should be educated about life, not about sick PC agendas that turn them into drones. And I'm a teacher so don't even challenge this. 3. Homeschooling provides superior socialization. Homeschooling is not what you think. There is a massive network out here of high quality kids where interaction is constant. Typically kids who attend public school are all sorts of screwed up. I only want my children associating with high echelon individuals. 4. They aren't held back by a seriously damaged and dysfunctional system. As an example my 9 year old does calculus for fun. He has long since mastered multiplication, algebra, and Trig. Currently he is writing basic code and programs designing his own games. Not that it's the focus, but it's a life skill that will allow him to earn $100k a year before he even graduates highschool. If he wants. On top of that I teach him welding and seamanship skills so he can write his first Captain's license at 16. None of this has been forced on him. He, and his two siblings, move at their own pace. 5. Family closeness. Other kids are like viruses. God bless them but they do nothing but get vaccinated, drink poison, and play video games. They do have some friends that attend public school but we screen these carefully. Our kids are mature, responsible, and dependable, but they still have fun like kids should. Homeschooled kids are superior WHEN EDUCATED PROPERLY. 6. Our kids can still play sports through the school system which they do since I pay taxes for it. Since my kids are outdoors far more than their public school peers, they are far more healthy, robust, and vibrant. Also my kids have been in martial arts since 3 years old. Little dragons on up. My oldest is just now appreciative of his karate skills since he is into his super heros and stuff. He could easily kick the shit out of many highschool kids and he is 9. 7. Spirituality. Since they aren't contaminated by the government system we have time to focus on so many other things than garbage politics of the bullshit school system. In comparison to most kids mine are like little super humans. Homeschooling WHEN DONE PROPERLY is far and away superior to any institutionalized school. They still interact with and are fully aware of the degenerate bastards in the world. And they handle every situation with ease. My kids look an adult in the eye and speak fluently with zero hesitation about any topic. Each has their own specialty but as an example we recently chartered a deep sea fishing boat and my oldest who has a deep love for the ocean and sea life completely embarrassed and humbled not only the Captain but the crew with his vast knowledge of fish. |
beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 12/10/2014 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | many of the best thinkers throughout history were NOT schooled in anything resembling our public schools. for centuries, people hired a tutor or governess to teach the children reading and writing and arithmetic. or they had tiny on-room schools that were almost like extended family in their smallness. big schools do not suit everyone. good thread. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Apollo Far-Darter User ID: 65782636 United States 12/10/2014 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets be real here, the degrading of the public school system started after segregation. Minorities lack the mental structure of Whites and Asians. They are foul, rude, impulsive and ignorant. Yet they tell us, white, black, Hispanic or Asian, we are all the same? BS!!!! If you want superior children, keep them away from Blacks and Hispanics, Asians are OK. 'At this time also the Jews began war, because they were forbidden to mutilate their genitals. (quot vetabantur mutilare genitalia) ~Historia Augusta: For to that faculty in us which is unreasonable and disordered and violent, and does not come from the gods, but from evil spirits, the ancients gave the name Titans, that is to say, those that are punished and subjected to correction.~ Plutarch. |
Apollo Far-Darter User ID: 65782636 United States 12/10/2014 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | many of the best thinkers throughout history were NOT schooled in anything resembling our public schools. Quoting: beeches for centuries, people hired a tutor or governess to teach the children reading and writing and arithmetic. or they had tiny on-room schools that were almost like extended family in their smallness. big schools do not suit everyone. good thread. All master thinkers through out history were Asian or Caucasian. Not one single black or Hispanic great thinker or achiever. If we want to keep the foundations of a superior society, we MUST get rid of dead weight races!!!!!!! Or we are doomed, by our own delusions. 'At this time also the Jews began war, because they were forbidden to mutilate their genitals. (quot vetabantur mutilare genitalia) ~Historia Augusta: For to that faculty in us which is unreasonable and disordered and violent, and does not come from the gods, but from evil spirits, the ancients gave the name Titans, that is to say, those that are punished and subjected to correction.~ Plutarch. |
Shiva ascendant User ID: 62553945 Germany 12/10/2014 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yes, properly educated by dedicated persons with an adequate supply of mind enriching material homeschoolers can do exceptionally well because of having received more and more individually tailored attention. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but with a whimper. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45517710 United States 12/10/2014 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I teach in multiple maritime schools. Specifically in the fields of celestial navigation and person-in-charge of transferring of dangerous liquids. I also teach in two different maritime academies for ARPA radar navigation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65896811 New Zealand 12/10/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a former teacher and current homeschooler I also have a heavy educational research background (university academic, I guess) I would support your thread but for your narrow definition of pedagogy I don't agree with copying public school education for home school plenty of research to support Education 3.0 heutagogy rather than pedagogy better results |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24856758 United States 12/10/2014 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I teach in multiple maritime schools. Specifically in the fields of celestial navigation and person-in-charge of transferring of dangerous liquids. I also teach in two different maritime academies for ARPA radar navigation. Also for the record I have taught regularly as a sub for grades K through 3 where the private school our children previously attended needed help. But that was only as needed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64894974 United States 12/10/2014 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homeschooling statistics show that those who are independently educated typically score between the 65th and 89th percentile on such exams, while those attending traditional schools average on the 50th percentile. Furthermore, the achievement gaps, long plaguing school systems around the country, aren’t present in the homeschooling environment. There’s no difference in achievement between sexes, income levels, or race/ethnicity. - See more at: [link to www.educationnews.org] [link to www.educationnews.org] . ... and graphs ... . [link to a2zhomeschooling.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24856758 United States 12/10/2014 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a former teacher and current homeschooler Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65896811 I also have a heavy educational research background (university academic, I guess) I would support your thread but for your narrow definition of pedagogy I don't agree with copying public school education for home school plenty of research to support Education 3.0 heutagogy rather than pedagogy better results We use Bob Jones as a loose foundation for what we do. The kids easily pass the accreditation tests they take each year for Florida state. But we do not subscribe entirely to any curriculum other than our own. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24856758 United States 12/10/2014 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homeschooling statistics show that those who are independently educated typically score between the 65th and 89th percentile on such exams, while those attending traditional schools average on the 50th percentile. Furthermore, the achievement gaps, long plaguing school systems around the country, aren’t present in the homeschooling environment. There’s no difference in achievement between sexes, income levels, or race/ethnicity. - See more at: [link to www.educationnews.org] Quoting: Wisconsin [link to www.educationnews.org] . ... and graphs ... . [link to a2zhomeschooling.com] My kids and other properly schooled kids score way beyond their peers. Again we are only talking about properly homeschooled kids. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24856758 United States 12/10/2014 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe except in social skills. The brutal world of school kids teaches you valuable skills on how to survive the assholes in work life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64960147 Your comment is already addressed. Read and comprehend like My 9 year old is capable of. Not to be a dick. But quit trying to argue. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24856758 United States 12/10/2014 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homeschooled kids are superior in social skills than public schooled kids. Sorry. It's a dead argument. Homeschooled kids have Far more real interaction in life than being placed in a corner and told to shut up. The diff between a homeschooled kid interacting compared to a public school kid interacting is like a college kid compared to a preschooler. |
Mr. Lurker User ID: 1141627 Netherlands 12/10/2014 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets be real here, the degrading of the public school system started after segregation. Minorities lack the mental structure of Whites and Asians. They are foul, rude, impulsive and ignorant. Yet they tell us, white, black, Hispanic or Asian, we are all the same? BS!!!! If you want superior children, keep them away from Blacks and Hispanics, Asians are OK. Quoting: Apollo Far-Darter |
Mr. Lurker User ID: 1141627 Netherlands 12/10/2014 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | many of the best thinkers throughout history were NOT schooled in anything resembling our public schools. Quoting: beeches for centuries, people hired a tutor or governess to teach the children reading and writing and arithmetic. or they had tiny on-room schools that were almost like extended family in their smallness. big schools do not suit everyone. good thread. All master thinkers through out history were Asian or Caucasian. Not one single black or Hispanic great thinker or achiever. If we want to keep the foundations of a superior society, we MUST get rid of dead weight races!!!!!!! Or we are doomed, by our own delusions. Some races break civilizations apart (I need not tell you which races those are) and some build like the white race and the asian race. |
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publicSchoolsSuck User ID: 65940885 United States 12/10/2014 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put three kids through private school. I worked two or three jobs for eight years to do it. When the kids were young the wife stayed at home. My wife was a teacher and we both engaged the kids in development. They are all now fine self-sufficient adults. My wife worked on academics . I worked on fun, problem solving and how to address hard tasks. This is one technique I used that is very effective. Have them copy a line from a book they pick out. Then read it back to them and answer any questions they have about it. After a few days of this do the same thing, but with a paragraph. Then progress to a whole page of text, which was done only one time. Teach them to read, with reading all things can be learned. Teach them to write, talk is cheap. Teach them math and how to manage money, with success comes responsibility. Teach them to speak publicly, presenting yourself gives you and edge. The rest of their time should be spent on road trips touring factories and business of all kinds. In all thing teach them to be honorable and moral, but when things go wrong teach them to always get even and never forget. Only the strong survive, do not raise wek kids. |
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bitofreason User ID: 46598154 United States 12/10/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not in all regards, social skills? I spent a lot of time with home schooled kids growing up. I was in clubs and programs that they would join like 4-h, Junior Leadership, Toastmasters, and Forestry Club. There were so many socially crippled kids that were home schooled. I would love to home school my daughter but I cant and personally would only do it after elementary. |
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Runningwithscissors User ID: 63202778 Canada 12/10/2014 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not in all regards, social skills? I spent a lot of time with home schooled kids growing up. I was in clubs and programs that they would join like 4-h, Junior Leadership, Toastmasters, and Forestry Club. There were so many socially crippled kids that were home schooled. I would love to home school my daughter but I cant and personally would only do it after elementary. Quoting: bitofreason 46598154 Okay, let's play your game. You give us no examples, just that as a fellow child you saw them as "socially crippled". Spell out their behaviour that made them socially crippled in your eyes. Runningwithscissors <3 |
Runningwithscissors User ID: 63202778 Canada 12/10/2014 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not in all regards, social skills? I spent a lot of time with home schooled kids growing up. I was in clubs and programs that they would join like 4-h, Junior Leadership, Toastmasters, and Forestry Club. There were so many socially crippled kids that were home schooled. I would love to home school my daughter but I cant and personally would only do it after elementary. Quoting: bitofreason 46598154 Okay, let's play your game. You give us no examples, just that as a fellow child you saw them as "socially crippled". Spell out their behaviour that made them socially crippled in your eyes. I guess you weren't prepared to have to supply any substance with your comment. I suspect that you thought them socially crippled because they were polite, willing to wait their turn, and there to learn as opposed to goofing around while the person in charge was talking. Runningwithscissors <3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59790005 United States 12/10/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not in all regards, social skills? I spent a lot of time with home schooled kids growing up. I was in clubs and programs that they would join like 4-h, Junior Leadership, Toastmasters, and Forestry Club. There were so many socially crippled kids that were home schooled. I would love to home school my daughter but I cant and personally would only do it after elementary. Quoting: bitofreason 46598154 Okay, let's play your game. You give us no examples, just that as a fellow child you saw them as "socially crippled". Spell out their behaviour that made them socially crippled in your eyes. I guess you weren't prepared to have to supply any substance with your comment. I suspect that you thought them socially crippled because they were polite, willing to wait their turn, and there to learn as opposed to goofing around while the person in charge was talking. Exactly. |
Gratia Plena User ID: 47036543 United States 12/10/2014 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All your qualifiers could be added to public or private schools to make the same argument. For example, PROPERLY educated public or private school children are better in all regards, and those that aren't, well their educators just aren't doing it right. I'm a big supporter of homeschooling and have financially supported the cause. But to say anything else other than Hsing done perfectly is a sham is kind of a lame argument in my opinion. Anything done less than perfect will produce imperfect results. One of my closest friends homeschools three children and follows all of your "rules." They regularly test at least two grades above where they should be, she has them involved in social activities, it is very structured, etc. Yet her oldest couldn't go to a child's birthday party by himself without mom until he was 13 because the separation anxiety was too great. He had never in his life had to be away from an immediate family member for more than 30 minutes, and it took until his teen years for him to have the nerve to go to a party without mom. I don't know if that's far superior socially. Like I said though, I think homeschooling is great and should forever be an option. It has probably saved kids' lives who would have otherwise gone down very dark paths. But let's keep our noses quite so high out of the air, shall we? |
bitofreason User ID: 46598154 United States 12/10/2014 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not in all regards, social skills? I spent a lot of time with home schooled kids growing up. I was in clubs and programs that they would join like 4-h, Junior Leadership, Toastmasters, and Forestry Club. There were so many socially crippled kids that were home schooled. I would love to home school my daughter but I cant and personally would only do it after elementary. Quoting: bitofreason 46598154 Okay, let's play your game. You give us no examples, just that as a fellow child you saw them as "socially crippled". Spell out their behaviour that made them socially crippled in your eyes. Typically withdrawn and passive. Spent more time watching and observing the other kids than interacting and building critical friendships. It is not a game as you say, just my observation of the ones I had contact with. It however is the one serious flaw in homeschooling, not that everyone has the same issue. I agree with the OP but question the obvious issue. |