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Meet my fellow citizen Wim Hof.

Wim Hof has developed a method characterized by simplicity and effectiveness. The effects and applicability of this method are being investigated by various scientific institutes

For more than a year the Medical Center Saint Radboud in Nijmegen has been scientifically researching Wim Hof if he is a medical wonder. Scientisc say the results are remarkable.

"...
The Initial results have shown that the method appears to affect the autonomous nervous system and the immune system.

Scientists led by Matthijs Kox of the Radboud University Medical Center in Nijmegen, the Netherlands, studied his method, which is somehow similar to the Tibetan Tummo technique (yoga of inner heat) and involves third-eye meditation, breathing exercises and cold exposure, and used it to train 12 volunteers to fend off inflammation.

In the framework of the study, 24 volunteers, including 12 people trained in the Wim Hof method and 12 who did not undergo any training, were subjected to the inflammation test, during which they were injected with a strain of bacteria that provokes flu-like symptoms.

As a result, volunteers who underwent training with Hof method reported fewer and less intense flu-like symptoms than those who did not. At the same time, trained volunteers produced smaller amounts of proteins related to inflammation, and higher levels of interleukin-10, an inflammation-fighting protein.

“Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced. The present study demonstrates that, through practicing techniques learned in a short-term training program, the sympathetic nervous system and immune system can indeed be voluntarily influenced,” writes the scientific journal PNAS, where the study was published. ..."

More: [link to themindunleashed.org]


Here the doctors inject the bacterial toxin, made by Escherichia coli (beginning of video, but the whole vid is worth the watch!):

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


NOW WE ALL CAN LEARN HIS METHOD!:
Thread: The Wim Hof Method *Revealed* – How to Consciously Control Your Immune System


The Study: [link to www.pnas.org]


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R.I.P. for the real Wubbo Ockels. He was a true icon of my country, and a great front-fighter for sustainable energie/technology and humanism.

"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

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It is very easy to identify mortals: all have to sleep.
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Well it's on YouTube so that " must " make it real and true
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Well it's on YouTube so that " must " make it real and true
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if you looked 2 sentences below the vid, you can see the published medical study ;)
R.I.P. for the real Wubbo Ockels. He was a true icon of my country, and a great front-fighter for sustainable energie/technology and humanism.

"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

Thread: LADIES & GENTLEMEN: I PRESENT to YOU OUR NEW SUN !!
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Interesting.

That doesn't lead to immortality, but should help as people age. Most chronic disorders are currently believed to be linked to inflammation.
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Interesting.

That doesn't lead to immortality, but should help as people age. Most chronic disorders are currently believed to be linked to inflammation.
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that's why i put it between quotation marks :)
R.I.P. for the real Wubbo Ockels. He was a true icon of my country, and a great front-fighter for sustainable energie/technology and humanism.

"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

Thread: LADIES & GENTLEMEN: I PRESENT to YOU OUR NEW SUN !!
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It has to do with the brown fat!
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Science is catching up- a Harvard meditation study:
[link to www.collective-evolution.com]

A video i did on a claimed 'immortal', Li Ching-Yuen, reportedly lived hundreds of years, and ate certain herbs and goji juice and practiced a special form of meditation (remove the '(DOT)' and '(DELETE THIS)' from the URL):
youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=A(DELETE THIS)J-WYdTCRgI

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I'm taking cold showers almost everyday now and I feel great! (warmer from inside)
He said he deserves the Nobel prize for his findings LOL but TPTB will never give this info to us. Do it yourself pussy's, take them cold showers.

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Nice thread Wubbo

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If you think a thread is important enough for others to read, go to page one and click on the green pin!!!
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"Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced."

LOL.

What COMPLETE fucking IDIOTS.

I stopped reading right there.

Seriously, what fucking morons.

"They told me stuff that I herd in schkewl, they sed you can't do stuff with your head, so i beleve them, and now i smart."

LIterally, this is galactic level mental retardation, like if bees didn't know how to fly or if a lion didn't understand what paws were.

So fucking embarrassing being a part of those people's time field.
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Well it's on YouTube so that " must " make it real and true
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if you looked 2 sentences below the vid, you can see the published medical study ;)
 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


Don't even respond, he's literally so dumb it's a poison.

Dumber than the stupid evil scientists that know everything and want to make you dumb like him.

HE just dumb.
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more and more research from seemingly unrelated areas, are showing the importance of removing inflammation from ones life.

thank you OP, I am grateful to receive this message.
I love you.
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Close minded, for your type of people there is no future...

"Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced."

LOL.

What COMPLETE fucking IDIOTS.

I stopped reading right there.

Seriously, what fucking morons.

"They told me stuff that I herd in schkewl, they sed you can't do stuff with your head, so i beleve them, and now i smart."

LIterally, this is galactic level mental retardation, like if bees didn't know how to fly or if a lion didn't understand what paws were.

So fucking embarrassing being a part of those people's time field.
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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
Use your brian, moran!

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I'm taking cold showers almost everyday now and I feel great! (warmer from inside)
He said he deserves the Nobel prize for his findings LOL but TPTB will never give this info to us. Do it yourself pussy's, take them cold showers.

5a
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Nobel prize? For what?! He's not a lying, scum bag, teleprompter reading, douchebag politician.
I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends).

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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
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and these animal level bodies are NOT YOU and they do NOT become immortal. They are dropped and return to dust. They do not work in the immortal realms. You are given new forms.
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LOL

Hopefully this will put an end to all the god and afterlife crap and people can move on past religions.
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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
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bsmeter2

eternal life is through Jesus, the only christ, and the only begotten son of God.

put down the phony Ub garbage and get with the truth.
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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656


bsmeter2

eternal life is through Jesus, the only christ, and the only begotten son of God.

put down the phony Ub garbage and get with the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36313949


you can take a preverbial Hike for you know nothing of He who indwells you.
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"Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced."

LOL.

What COMPLETE fucking IDIOTS.

I stopped reading right there.

Seriously, what fucking morons.

"They told me stuff that I herd in schkewl, they sed you can't do stuff with your head, so i beleve them, and now i smart."

LIterally, this is galactic level mental retardation, like if bees didn't know how to fly or if a lion didn't understand what paws were.

So fucking embarrassing being a part of those people's time field.
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Since you ARE a part of their time field ,you should appoligize for your participation. Now hang your head.pigchef
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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656


bsmeter2

eternal life is through Jesus, the only christ, and the only begotten son of God.

put down the phony Ub garbage and get with the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36313949


you can take a preverbial Hike for you know nothing of He who indwells you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656



lol...its you candace who knows nothing. you clearly don't have the WHAT IS.
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I'm not taking cold showers. Fuck that.
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As long as we don't get stuck in lower density form! Because this is lower density form, but we're in an eternal now, and need to grow into it more.
The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist.
The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light!
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I'm not taking cold showers. Fuck that.
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cruise
R.I.P. for the real Wubbo Ockels. He was a true icon of my country, and a great front-fighter for sustainable energie/technology and humanism.

"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

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It is very easy to identify mortals: all have to sleep.
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You can be immortal and still have to sleep.
But if you are sleep is probably near 4 hours or less a day, together with a ridiculous amount of energy.
The guy is NOT immortal it can be seen from looking at his face. His face is not perfect, and thus immortality is RULED OUT. Only perfect biological beings can be immortal, or beings in the process of attaining biological perfection.

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and these animal level bodies are NOT YOU and they do NOT become immortal. They are dropped and return to dust. They do not work in the immortal realms. You are given new forms.
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Man is a 'body pilot'.

Your body can be immortal/self repairing, but God put a limit on that when Adam/Eve disobeyed God.

But... your spirit is technically immortal. However you can't do, or effect anything in this universe/creation without a physical body.

Why the hell would you want to live forever in this dump, in such a limited vehicle anyway?

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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656


and these animal level bodies are NOT YOU and they do NOT become immortal. They are dropped and return to dust. They do not work in the immortal realms. You are given new forms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656


You are right about the consciousness being immortal, and no retard biblethumper can change reality.
But it is possible for the body to attain immortality, but it does not occur through ascending or any other relatively common event. To attain this your knowledge has to be great as well as your practical skills.
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Meet my fellow citizen Wim Hof.

Wim Hof has developed a method characterized by simplicity and effectiveness. The effects and applicability of this method are being investigated by various scientific institutes

For more than a year the Medical Center Saint Radboud in Nijmegen has been scientifically researching Wim Hof if he is a medical wonder. Scientisc say the results are remarkable.

"...
The Initial results have shown that the method appears to affect the autonomous nervous system and the immune system.

Scientists led by Matthijs Kox of the Radboud University Medical Center in Nijmegen, the Netherlands, studied his method, which is somehow similar to the Tibetan Tummo technique (yoga of inner heat) and involves third-eye meditation, breathing exercises and cold exposure, and used it to train 12 volunteers to fend off inflammation.

In the framework of the study, 24 volunteers, including 12 people trained in the Wim Hof method and 12 who did not undergo any training, were subjected to the inflammation test, during which they were injected with a strain of bacteria that provokes flu-like symptoms.

As a result, volunteers who underwent training with Hof method reported fewer and less intense flu-like symptoms than those who did not. At the same time, trained volunteers produced smaller amounts of proteins related to inflammation, and higher levels of interleukin-10, an inflammation-fighting protein.

“Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced. The present study demonstrates that, through practicing techniques learned in a short-term training program, the sympathetic nervous system and immune system can indeed be voluntarily influenced,” writes the scientific journal PNAS, where the study was published. ..."

More: [link to themindunleashed.org]


Here the doctors inject the bacterial toxin, made by Escherichia coli (beginning of video, but the whole vid is worth the watch!):

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


NOW WE ALL CAN LEARN HIS METHOD!:
Thread: The Wim Hof Method *Revealed* – How to Consciously Control Your Immune System


The Study: [link to www.pnas.org]


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you are all immortals unless you turn down your life eternal. you are born eternal. Life is eternal.

That said.. you go thru lots of testing until you becoming God knowing and merge with He that Indwells you, which causes you to be written into the book of life and given your immortal name. Immortals can and do incarnate to teach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656


bsmeter2

eternal life is through Jesus, the only christ, and the only begotten son of God.

put down the phony Ub garbage and get with the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36313949


you can take a preverbial Hike for you know nothing of He who indwells you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656



lol...its you candace who knows nothing. you clearly don't have the WHAT IS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36313949


It is YOU who has very little light
Ask Jesus to help you raise your vibration and increase your light so you can here him more clearly hf
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bsmeter2

eternal life is through Jesus, the only christ, and the only begotten son of God.

put down the phony Ub garbage and get with the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36313949


you can take a preverbial Hike for you know nothing of He who indwells you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64126656



lol...its you candace who knows nothing. you clearly don't have the WHAT IS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36313949


It is YOU who has very little light
Ask Jesus to help you raise your vibration and increase your light so you can here him more clearly hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61081377


meh, thats just a bunch of new age phony crap.





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