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Russia Debt One Grade Above Junk With Downgrades Coming, How Likely is Default?

 
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All three rating agencies are expected to downgrade Russia's debt to junk soon and bailouts to Russian banks are on the rise, but how likely is default?

The Financial Times reports ...
Russia trebled the size of its bailout of troubled lender Trust Bank to Rbs99bn ($1.9bn) on Friday, laying bare the growing financial fallout from its currency crisis and the slump in the price of oil, its main export.

The rapidly rising cost makes the rescue of Trust bank, which foundered as the rouble collapsed early last week, the second-largest seen in Russia.

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The agencies are controlled and told what to do so I do not give them any level of credit. Just another tool of the US corrupt GOV.
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All three rating agencies are expected to downgrade Russia's debt to junk soon and bailouts to Russian banks are on the rise, but how likely is default?

The Financial Times reports ...
Russia trebled the size of its bailout of troubled lender Trust Bank to Rbs99bn ($1.9bn) on Friday, laying bare the growing financial fallout from its currency crisis and the slump in the price of oil, its main export.

The rapidly rising cost makes the rescue of Trust bank, which foundered as the rouble collapsed early last week, the second-largest seen in Russia.

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Are you not seeing all the threads about them designing and bringing online a new credit system?


It really makes your thread irrelevant...
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The agencies are controlled and told what to do so I do not give them any level of credit. Just another tool of the US corrupt GOV.
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Putin is a bitch ass punk. What's Vlad gonna do, use his nukes? He shouldn't have talked so much smack.

And where are the Putintards now? This little man is destroying Russia and stealing everything he can, how the fuck do tards think he became a multi-billionaire?!

...lol....but Putin is a Godfaring Christian lmao .... and he hates Obammy and the gays ... 1rof1 ... vodka5 ....

puke5 putin .... but don't worry 'bout Vlad....he's got billions stashed away in off-shore accounts, he'll be living large, unlike most Russians.
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The agencies are controlled and told what to do so I do not give them any level of credit. Just another tool of the US corrupt GOV.
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Russia is listed as one of the top most corrupt countries on Earth

Russia has nothing really beside oil production (and the price of oil has collapsed due to massive US oil production [the US is now the world's largest oil producer, surpassing Saudi Arabia]. It's an extremely corrupt, poor country ruled by organized crime syndicates, with nukes.
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All three rating agencies are expected to downgrade Russia's debt to junk soon and bailouts to Russian banks are on the rise, but how likely is default?

The Financial Times reports ...
Russia trebled the size of its bailout of troubled lender Trust Bank to Rbs99bn ($1.9bn) on Friday, laying bare the growing financial fallout from its currency crisis and the slump in the price of oil, its main export.

The rapidly rising cost makes the rescue of Trust bank, which foundered as the rouble collapsed early last week, the second-largest seen in Russia.

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 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Are you not seeing all the threads about them designing and bringing online a new credit system?


It really makes your thread irrelevant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560




Irrelevant my ass....while the credit rating agencies are a fraud many sheep around the world believe and invest in this current bullshit system....For example the US debt bubble is partly propped up on positive speculation...
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Putin is a bitch ass punk. What's Vlad gonna do, use his nukes? He shouldn't have talked so much smack.

And where are the Putintards now? This little man is destroying Russia and stealing everything he can, how the fuck do tards think he became a multi-billionaire?!

...lol....but Putin is a Godfaring Christian lmao .... and he hates Obammy and the gays ... 1rof1 ... vodka5 ....

puke5 putin .... but don't worry 'bout Vlad....he's got billions stashed away in off-shore accounts, he'll be living large, unlike most Russians.
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And just what do you think is going on in the U.S. Middle class net worth and standards of living have been eroding while the bankers get richer and richer off of QE monies. They're stealing just like Putin and his friends, they just lie to your face while they do it. I especially enjoy the case of Jon Corzine, and will match t against any of the Russian oligarchs in terms of theft and state-approved illegality. So I'll take the Christian, traditionalist, nationalist thief over the Muslim communist one.

Obama, who has never had a productive job in his life, will be living just as large as Putin, unlike most Americans.
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Russia already defaulted in 98, they will fuck everyone again.
Where did the money go?
To building an invasion machine and to wealth of international oligarchs that Putin licences to make his own billions.
If you look the Russian people got jack shit out of the deal and they've been promised the wealth and property of invaded lands.
Putins popularity in Russia is based only on promises of booty from invasion of Europe since Russia already supports or otherwise allied with China and most other axiatics and the Islamic states already.
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All three rating agencies are expected to downgrade Russia's debt to junk soon and bailouts to Russian banks are on the rise, but how likely is default?

The Financial Times reports ...
Russia trebled the size of its bailout of troubled lender Trust Bank to Rbs99bn ($1.9bn) on Friday, laying bare the growing financial fallout from its currency crisis and the slump in the price of oil, its main export.

The rapidly rising cost makes the rescue of Trust bank, which foundered as the rouble collapsed early last week, the second-largest seen in Russia.

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 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Are you not seeing all the threads about them designing and bringing online a new credit system?


It really makes your thread irrelevant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560




Irrelevant my ass....while the credit rating agencies are a fraud many sheep around the world believe and invest in this current bullshit system....For example the US debt bubble is partly propped up on positive speculation...
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


It's not real debt and its owed to a small banking family so who gives a fuck dude!

Seems you have a cranial rectal inversion situation goin on...!
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All three rating agencies are expected to downgrade Russia's debt to junk soon and bailouts to Russian banks are on the rise, but how likely is default?

The Financial Times reports ...
Russia trebled the size of its bailout of troubled lender Trust Bank to Rbs99bn ($1.9bn) on Friday, laying bare the growing financial fallout from its currency crisis and the slump in the price of oil, its main export.

The rapidly rising cost makes the rescue of Trust bank, which foundered as the rouble collapsed early last week, the second-largest seen in Russia.

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 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Are you not seeing all the threads about them designing and bringing online a new credit system?


It really makes your thread irrelevant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560




Irrelevant my ass....while the credit rating agencies are a fraud many sheep around the world believe and invest in this current bullshit system....For example the US debt bubble is partly propped up on positive speculation...
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


It's not real debt and its owed to a small banking family so who gives a fuck dude!

Seems you have a cranial rectal inversion situation goin on...!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560



munch
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Anything denominated in worthless money is doomed to failure.
Who wants money only goid for overpriced junk from the company store?
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Are you not seeing all the threads about them designing and bringing online a new credit system?


It really makes your thread irrelevant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560




Irrelevant my ass....while the credit rating agencies are a fraud many sheep around the world believe and invest in this current bullshit system....For example the US debt bubble is partly propped up on positive speculation...
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


It's not real debt and its owed to a small banking family so who gives a fuck dude!

Seems you have a cranial rectal inversion situation goin on...!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560



:munch:
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


I got an idea..!

How about the congress abolish the Federal Reserve and issue a coin to pay off our dollar debt
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They have the least debt of most countries. How will they default???
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Using rating agencies for politics will make them same junk as US and no one will trust them. Better think for US default, or you are paid govt shill?
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The only thing Russia makes are war material so war is their profit position.
Russia goes bankrupt with peace so you know what their long term strategy, conquest of peaceful productive societies unable to defend themselves.
They have painted themselves into a corner where they must take what they cannot profitability make.
So saint Vlad declares all others infidels and apostates worthy of his wrath and destruction,
Anyone else see any similarities to old testament entitlement memes?
Its all too obvious.
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These downgrading agencies are a joke and controlled by the U.Ss/London cartels. WHO takes them seriously??
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They have the least debt of most countries. How will they default???
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I a agree...And the U.S. has the most...so...how does the U.S. escape a rating like that? Or Japan? What a joke?
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They have the least debt of most countries. How will they default???
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They defaulted on the death of 60 million Christians not to menfion their default of 98.
They have no debt because they defaulted on trillions of stolen gold and millions of stolen lives
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These downgrading agencies are a joke and controlled by the U.Ss/London cartels. WHO takes them seriously??
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Here's the problem, it's LAW that you take them seriously, to make Tier I Capital for banks and financial companies they must have AAA rated bonds, some public funds must be collateralized by AAA rated bonds. These laws and regulations MAKE them relevant even though they are obviously politically controlled and motivated so there is no realistic reason they should be relevant, especially after the way they misrepresented Bonds in 2008-09!!!

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Russia overplayed their hand, and make no mistake China is part of this take down, even though they will come in and look like Russia's savior. China has always been the hub of the New World Order, the Rockefeller's, and Bush's made sure of that...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

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They have the least debt of most countries. How will they default???
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I a agree...And the U.S. has the most...so...how does the U.S. escape a rating like that? Or Japan? What a joke?
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You know its not either the US or the new USSR.
thats a false dichotomy especially when the same lot are in charge of both countries.
The difference is what the peoplr are like and what they are willing to tolerate.
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These downgrading agencies are a joke and controlled by the U.Ss/London cartels. WHO takes them seriously??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65616902


Here's the problem, it's LAW that you take them seriously, to make Tier I Capital for banks and financial companies they must have AAA rated bonds, some public funds must be collateralized by AAA rated bonds. These laws and regulations MAKE them relevant even though they are obviously politically controlled and motivated so there is no realistic reason they should be relevant, especially after the way they misrepresented Bonds in 2008-09!!!
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Yep insiders will always create a requirement to be in control of the game.
Next thing you know some red tape shows up on your mailbox from nowhere, what can it mean?
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I agree to those who say that the rating agencies are all extensions of US foreign policy. But to my knowledge, Russia and China, are working on the establishment of alternative rating agencies. China already has a rating agency, Dagong Global Credit rating, giving Russia a rating of A, with a stable outlook. And Russia will be looking to Asia in the coming years, in order to refinance it's debt.
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These downgrading agencies are a joke and controlled by the U.Ss/London cartels. WHO takes them seriously??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65616902


Here's the problem, it's LAW that you take them seriously, to make Tier I Capital for banks and financial companies they must have AAA rated bonds, some public funds must be collateralized by AAA rated bonds. These laws and regulations MAKE them relevant even though they are obviously politically controlled and motivated so there is no realistic reason they should be relevant, especially after the way they misrepresented Bonds in 2008-09!!!
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Ha ha! The credit agencies all gave excellent ratings of the instruments that contributed to the financial crisis in 2008. Investment banks like Lehman Brothers had their share of the CDCs, containing toxic financial waste with top ratings from the mentioned agencies. What a joke!
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If any of you understood Russian culture you'd realize that if they have a debt they dont want to pay they simply get rid of those claiming they have compensation coming.
There is no list of Russian debts paid off in full.
It doesnt exist.
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This is ridiculous...The Russians have about 700 BILLION in outstanding debt and the United States has well over 18 TRILLION!!!!Now you tell me who are the fuckers that should be downgraded!!!!!!
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Bunch of heroin heads over there...economy and job markets are just as manipulated there as in the U.S. and everywhere else for that model...my guess is no matter how much you cripple another Country it will always effect you in the long run negatively. Last cards haven't hit the table in this game of economic warfare. China is the only one that has a decent poker face right now with chips everywhere. This can bite them in the ass as well. Fact is crashes will come to everyone eventually....its just a matter of when and what order..pray your country is last in line.
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Putin is a bitch ass punk. What's Vlad gonna do, use his nukes? He shouldn't have talked so much smack.

And where are the Putintards now? This little man is destroying Russia and stealing everything he can, how the fuck do tards think he became a multi-billionaire?!

...lol....but Putin is a Godfaring Christian lmao .... and he hates Obammy and the gays ... 1rof1 ... vodka5 ....

puke5 putin .... but don't worry 'bout Vlad....he's got billions stashed away in off-shore accounts, he'll be living large, unlike most Russians.
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All three rating agencies are expected to downgrade Russia's debt to junk soon and bailouts to Russian banks are on the rise, but how likely is default?

The Financial Times reports ...
Russia trebled the size of its bailout of troubled lender Trust Bank to Rbs99bn ($1.9bn) on Friday, laying bare the growing financial fallout from its currency crisis and the slump in the price of oil, its main export.

The rapidly rising cost makes the rescue of Trust bank, which foundered as the rouble collapsed early last week, the second-largest seen in Russia.

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 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Are you not seeing all the threads about them designing and bringing online a new credit system?


It really makes your thread irrelevant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66458560




Irrelevant my ass....while the credit rating agencies are a fraud many sheep around the world believe and invest in this current bullshit system....For example the US debt bubble is partly propped up on positive speculation...
 Quoting: Uncle Fuck Stick


Why don't you just be honest and admit you are shitting your pants because soon, your beloved USA will officially be the toilet it has been mving towrarfs all these years, and your precious cozy lifestyles will be a thing of the past.

You are fighting for your survival...byekitty
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They have the least debt of most countries. How will they default???
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That does not matter to fuckstick, his job is to hate on russia cause his life depends on it.





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