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| TheBiss Offer Upgrade  User ID: 63923918  United States12/30/2014 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we came up with this letter that we will never ever send... Dear Dad, Thank you for the fluffy blankets and pillows you gave to our daughters. If it's the thought that counts, in the Spirit of the Season our kids were very generous and regifted them to their teenaged friends who haven't stopped living in lilac and pink "little girl" rooms. We also appreciated the workbench from Harbor Freight and gave it to our eldest's boyfriend. He will love it until a potmetal carriage bolt shears off from day to day usage and he has to throw it away. The 2XL neon glow hoodies from your brother would have been nice if my children were boys. These also were appreciated by the boyfriend. My mother-in-law on my wife's side is now enjoying the faux Adirondack rocker chair from Harbor Freight. It's wide enough to fit her butt, and heavy enough it stays on the ground when she stands up. I'm not sure where she'll find replacement screws though once it begins to fall apart. She doesn't have a Harbor Freight in her town. Though I don't put out Christmas lights, thank you for the waterproof extension cord connector covers. I'll most likely just throw those away, unless someone takes them at the New Years Eve party. All in all, we appreciate your gifts this year. It kept us from having to think too much about what we were going to give to those on our B List. I'm already looking forward to the Faded Glory longsleeve shirt and Rustler jeans I'll be receiving for my birthday in July. I hear they're on sale now at WalMart. Flannel is my absolute favorite for Independence Day. Best regards, Your Son. Ready to write your letter?  Last Edited by TheBiss on 12/30/2014 12:35 AM [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
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| TheBiss (OP) User ID: 63923918 United States12/30/2014 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know. It's terrible isn't it? As I said, it's a card that would never be sent. But it does ask the question: Is quantity better than quality? Is it better to give a bunch of pointless Dollar store gifts that required no thought, or better to give no gift at all? [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
| Elephant in the room User ID: 65474373  United Kingdom12/30/2014 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a pretty harsh thing, imo. Grownups/parents can be quite adept at giving useless gifts, simply because they don't know any better...not being in the loop. I say that from experience of being on both the receiving and the giving end. Having said that, if I was honest, a lot of the Christmas cards I give out would probably contain a message something like this: Dear ( ) Here is my Christmas card to you, in return for the one you sent me. I wasn't going to send you one, because I find sending cards to be a bit of a chore, tbh. But since you sent me one, I now feel obligated to get one back for you. It was a last minute decision, hence the reason it appears to be one of the cheap cards that you can pick up 10 for a pound.   The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
| Bright Side Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 57641706 United States12/30/2014 08:54 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow you are an arrogant spoiled piece of shit and sounds like you married beneath you to boot and produced 2 more shining examples of ungratefulness and greed. I thought about not saying anything at all but you're attitude is over the top. Sorry you didn't get what you wanted for Christmas, you child, but maybe in this case you're right - your Dad would be better off not giving you anything. Most people give out of what they know of a person and absent from that, what they could see themselves wanting. If your Dad doesn't know your family well enough that's your fault and if he does but picks strange things well he's just part of the tribe of 95% of most men. I bet you he gave what he thought were great thoughtful gifts from his heart. You not taking that for what it's worth is your fault. You're the loser here not anyone else. To even think those things is horrible. . Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks also for the sickest, grossest Christmas letter I have ever seen. Everyone's holiday will not be improved by hearing about all the medical problems of all your family members. I pray for all of your well-being, but a CHRISTMAS LETTER is not the time or the place to share that kind of horrible information. For crying out loud. ******************************** Thanks, OP, for giving me the opportunity to vent about that. I think this person was forced to do the Christmas letter, and either was like "Fine, I'll give you a doozy," or legitimately is just a lunatic and didn't know any better. Happy New Year!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we came up with this letter that we will never ever send... Quoting: TheBiss Dear Dad, Thank you for the fluffy blankets and pillows you gave to our daughters. If it's the thought that counts, in the Spirit of the Season our kids were very generous and regifted them to their teenaged friends who haven't stopped living in lilac and pink "little girl" rooms. We also appreciated the workbench from Harbor Freight and gave it to our eldest's boyfriend. He will love it until a potmetal carriage bolt shears off from day to day usage and he has to throw it away. The 2XL neon glow hoodies from your brother would have been nice if my children were boys. These also were appreciated by the boyfriend. My mother-in-law on my wife's side is now enjoying the faux Adirondack rocker chair from Harbor Freight. It's wide enough to fit her butt, and heavy enough it stays on the ground when she stands up. I'm not sure where she'll find replacement screws though once it begins to fall apart. She doesn't have a Harbor Freight in her town. Though I don't put out Christmas lights, thank you for the waterproof extension cord connector covers. I'll most likely just throw those away, unless someone takes them at the New Years Eve party. All in all, we appreciate your gifts this year. It kept us from having to think too much about what we were going to give to those on our B List. I'm already looking forward to the Faded Glory longsleeve shirt and Rustler jeans I'll be receiving for my birthday in July. I hear they're on sale now at WalMart. Flannel is my absolute favorite for Independence Day. Best regards, Your Son. Ready to write your letter? Pin suggested. A certain family member used to send the craziest gifts, similar to what you're describing, but much less expensive and thoughtful(!). We just had a good time opening them and marveling at the...creativity. Their effort was appreciated, and also the uproar of humor they would produce when opened. One example was a plate on a stand with a proud picture of a very leggy ostrich on it. I would have hated for that person to see our reactions, but that's all we could muster. To be fair, they had a lot of people to send gifts to, and should receive mega amounts of credit for sending what they did! And our thank you notes were always vague, but expressing polite amounts of gratitude ("Thank you so much for the thoughtful gifts..." etc.).  |
| TheBiss (OP) User ID: 63923918 United States12/30/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people give out of what they know of a person and absent from that, what they could see themselves wanting. If your Dad doesn't know your family well enough that's your fault and if he does but picks strange things well he's just part of the tribe of 95% of most men. Quoting: Bright Side Ever read the lyrics to "Cats in the Cradle"? [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know. It's terrible isn't it? As I said, it's a card that would never be sent. But it does ask the question: Is quantity better than quality? Is it better to give a bunch of pointless Dollar store gifts that required no thought, or better to give no gift at all? Quoting: TheBiss In our family, we ask each other what gifts the others want, then buy those. Some of the surprise is lost, of course, although people tend to forget what they've asked for, so there's some. But the older crowd had the mindset that any gift is better than no gift, and it's the thought that counts. And it is.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a pretty harsh thing, imo. Grownups/parents can be quite adept at giving useless gifts, simply because they don't know any better...not being in the loop. I say that from experience of being on both the receiving and the giving end. Quoting: Elephant in the room Having said that, if I was honest, a lot of the Christmas cards I give out would probably contain a message something like this: Dear ( ) Here is my Christmas card to you, in return for the one you sent me. I wasn't going to send you one, because I find sending cards to be a bit of a chore, tbh. But since you sent me one, I now feel obligated to get one back for you. It was a last minute decision, hence the reason it appears to be one of the cheap cards that you can pick up 10 for a pound. This! And I would have to add "And sorry it arrived in January."  |
| TheBiss (OP) User ID: 63923918 United States12/30/2014 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We just had a good time opening them and marveling at the...creativity. Their effort was appreciated, and also the uproar of humor they would produce when opened. One example was a plate on a stand with a proud picture of a very leggy ostrich on it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66520471 That actually sounds very nice. [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66515946 United Kingdom12/30/2014 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know. It's terrible isn't it? As I said, it's a card that would never be sent. But it does ask the question: Is quantity better than quality? Is it better to give a bunch of pointless Dollar store gifts that required no thought, or better to give no gift at all? Quoting: TheBiss Well no actually, it shows none of those things. I had this same accusation from in laws who actually said it - and I'll tell you what, it hurt tremendously for spoiled brand name only well off family to presume and accuse us 1) that we spent no thought when we actually did, 2) and that from now on we could buy their children just gift cards - It hurt tremendously. To this day the presumptions and assumptions that they made impact the relationship. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow you are an arrogant spoiled piece of shit and sounds like you married beneath you to boot and produced 2 more shining examples of ungratefulness and greed. Quoting: Bright Side I thought about not saying anything at all but you're attitude is over the top. Sorry you didn't get what you wanted for Christmas, you child, but maybe in this case you're right - your Dad would be better off not giving you anything. Most people give out of what they know of a person and absent from that, what they could see themselves wanting. If your Dad doesn't know your family well enough that's your fault and if he does but picks strange things well he's just part of the tribe of 95% of most men. I bet you he gave what he thought were great thoughtful gifts from his heart. You not taking that for what it's worth is your fault. You're the loser here not anyone else. To even think those things is horrible. . It's called being honest with yourself. I have no idea of the actual statistics, but I'd say half the population is thinking like this, and the other half would appreciate whatever they got. I'm in the first group. We're cognizant of the fact that it's great they made the effort. But because we would try not to send gifts that didn't mean more to the recipients, it puzzles us that other people would.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65835896 United States12/30/2014 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we came up with this letter that we will never ever send... Quoting: TheBiss Dear Dad, Thank you for the fluffy blankets and pillows you gave to our daughters. If it's the thought that counts, in the Spirit of the Season our kids were very generous and regifted them to their teenaged friends who haven't stopped living in lilac and pink "little girl" rooms. We also appreciated the workbench from Harbor Freight and gave it to our eldest's boyfriend. He will love it until a potmetal carriage bolt shears off from day to day usage and he has to throw it away. The 2XL neon glow hoodies from your brother would have been nice if my children were boys. These also were appreciated by the boyfriend. My mother-in-law on my wife's side is now enjoying the faux Adirondack rocker chair from Harbor Freight. It's wide enough to fit her butt, and heavy enough it stays on the ground when she stands up. I'm not sure where she'll find replacement screws though once it begins to fall apart. She doesn't have a Harbor Freight in her town. Though I don't put out Christmas lights, thank you for the waterproof extension cord connector covers. I'll most likely just throw those away, unless someone takes them at the New Years Eve party. All in all, we appreciate your gifts this year. It kept us from having to think too much about what we were going to give to those on our B List. I'm already looking forward to the Faded Glory longsleeve shirt and Rustler jeans I'll be receiving for my birthday in July. I hear they're on sale now at WalMart. Flannel is my absolute favorite for Independence Day. Best regards, Your Son. Ready to write your letter? I am curious as to whether or not this is a man by himself who sent these things, or he is married and his wife bought and sent them. If it's a man, then it's a magnificent thing. Often men don't send anything, including birthday cards and gifts. He is an amazing specimen, if he sent these by himself.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We just had a good time opening them and marveling at the...creativity. Their effort was appreciated, and also the uproar of humor they would produce when opened. One example was a plate on a stand with a proud picture of a very leggy ostrich on it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66520471 That actually sounds very nice. The reaction or the plate???  |
| ThereRMeds4That User ID: 52763534 United States12/30/2014 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You OP are a complete ASS. How about being grateful that your Father and Uncle managed to send your family gifts at all. Perhaps this is what he can afford. Many people don't like giving giftcards because they can't afford a nice sized one, they feel that they can stretch their money more by buying presents themselves. Plus it makes them feel bad giving a small giftcards. And gift cards feel very impersonal. Perhaps harbor freight is one if the few stores available for your father to shop. Maybe he needs to rely in someone else to drive him. Maybe he's a MAN who doesn't know other places to shop, or find bargains. You sound like a pretentious, ungrateful, snob. Maybe he simply doesn't know what to buy for you. Most people don't enjoy buying for people like you anyways, I would probably purposefully make it look like I thought I got you a great gift while giving you something you are bound to hate sply to make you squirm. Hmmmmm, maybe that's what your Dad did! How much did he have to spend on shipping? Why weren't you celebrating WITH him, then maybe he'd know more about your kids tastes. BTW, what did your family send your Dad and Uncle?! Some Shepherds remain hidden from their sheep. |
| TheBiss (OP) User ID: 63923918 United States12/30/2014 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well no actually, it shows none of those things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66515946 I had this same accusation from in laws who actually said it - and I'll tell you what, it hurt tremendously for spoiled brand name only well off family to presume and accuse us 1) that we spent no thought when we actually did, 2) and that from now on we could buy their children just gift cards - It hurt tremendously. To this day the presumptions and assumptions that they made impact the relationship. Exactly. That's why this has so many people riled up. To actually say and do those things is A HUGE breech in social decorum. Some here might argue that mearly HAVING the thought is outside of etiquette. Ever see that episode of Gilligans Island where they could read each other's minds after eating a special nut? They wound up hating each other by the climax of the episode for this reason. Thurston: Ready, Lovey? Lovey: Ready. (They each eat one magic seed) Rather like the flavor of truffles, haven't they? Thurston: Never mind what they taste like. Let's just see if they work. Lovey: I think a little hollandaise sauce would improve them. Thurston: This isn't a recipe contest. Now, Lovey, think of something. Lovey: All right. Ready. Thurston: You've changed your mind. Instead of hollandaise sauce you think they'd taste better with sauce béarnaise. Lovey: Oh darling, how clever of you! You read my mind exactly. Thurston: Yes, now I'll think of something. Better take a booster shot. Lovey: Really Thurston, how can you? Thurston: But, Lovey- Lovey: I don't mind your stealing from the other, but to steal seeds from your own wife. Why did I ever marry you? [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
| Bright Side Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 57641706 United States12/30/2014 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow you are an arrogant spoiled piece of shit and sounds like you married beneath you to boot and produced 2 more shining examples of ungratefulness and greed. Quoting: Bright Side I thought about not saying anything at all but you're attitude is over the top. Sorry you didn't get what you wanted for Christmas, you child, but maybe in this case you're right - your Dad would be better off not giving you anything. Most people give out of what they know of a person and absent from that, what they could see themselves wanting. If your Dad doesn't know your family well enough that's your fault and if he does but picks strange things well he's just part of the tribe of 95% of most men. I bet you he gave what he thought were great thoughtful gifts from his heart. You not taking that for what it's worth is your fault. You're the loser here not anyone else. To even think those things is horrible. . It's called being honest with yourself. I have no idea of the actual statistics, but I'd say half the population is thinking like this, and the other half would appreciate whatever they got. I'm in the first group. We're cognizant of the fact that it's great they made the effort. But because we would try not to send gifts that didn't mean more to the recipients, it puzzles us that other people would. Sounds like a lot of effort to even puzzle. Be grateful they thought of you, leave it at that. Spread the good karma by donating the items if they're really that useless to you. After 18 and the required food and shelter, no one in this world owes you ANYTHING let alone a Christmas gift. Y'all need to get over yourselves. My in laws give my kids each like $100 of toys from big lots every year. Not what I would choose but it's not my gift. They never last for more than a few days. But you know what - my kids live like toy kings for those few days and are delighted. My in laws love to feel like they spoiled the kids with lots of packages. I get 3 days of glorious bliss while they're constantly busy and happy. Win-win-win... I have very sensitive ski. And I'm very careful about what I use. They always give me bath sets I can't use. But I love them for even thinking about me and donate them. Then I buy what I can use and think warmly of them when I use it. My husband always always buys me sexy things. Who's that gift really for? But you know what - I'm grateful I have A husband who still wants to rattle my bones every day after 4 kids and a bit of age have taken over. The gift is really what you make it. Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
| TheBiss (OP) User ID: 63923918 United States12/30/2014 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You OP are a complete ASS. How about being grateful that your Father and Uncle managed to send your family gifts at all. Quoting: ThereRMeds4That How much did he have to spend on shipping? Why weren't you celebrating WITH him, then maybe he'd know more about your kids tastes. BTW, what did your family send your Dad and Uncle?! Here's the deal. This year we were supposed to do Dirty Santa. Everyone in the family agreed to that. So each of us took one gift and expected to return with one gift. That was the agreement with the family. As we were leaving, my parents started divying out more gifts. That was not part of the agreement, and it made me pretty angry. Something else his wife can hold over my head now I suppose. [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
| ThereRMeds4That User ID: 52763534 United States12/30/2014 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some Shepherds remain hidden from their sheep. |
| Bright Side Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 57641706 United States12/30/2014 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people give out of what they know of a person and absent from that, what they could see themselves wanting. If your Dad doesn't know your family well enough that's your fault and if he does but picks strange things well he's just part of the tribe of 95% of most men. Quoting: Bright Side Ever read the lyrics to "Cats in the Cradle"? Yes I have and it's sad. But for you to make that reference means you are aware of the genesis of the issue and now the responsibility to fix it or not lays on you. You by no means obligated to fix it but if you choose not to then you don't get to complain about the consequences of him not knowing you well enough to give you what you want. Maybe the real gift in this is that you will be able to recognize all the baggage you're needlessly carrying (the real nugget behind the ungratefulness) and finally get to drop it. Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You OP are a complete ASS. How about being grateful that your Father and Uncle managed to send your family gifts at all. Quoting: ThereRMeds4That Perhaps this is what he can afford. Many people don't like giving giftcards because they can't afford a nice sized one, they feel that they can stretch their money more by buying presents themselves. Plus it makes them feel bad giving a small giftcards. And gift cards feel very impersonal. Perhaps harbor freight is one if the few stores available for your father to shop. Maybe he needs to rely in someone else to drive him. Maybe he's a MAN who doesn't know other places to shop, or find bargains. You sound like a pretentious, ungrateful, snob. Maybe he simply doesn't know what to buy for you. Most people don't enjoy buying for people like you anyways, I would probably purposefully make it look like I thought I got you a great gift while giving you something you are bound to hate sply to make you squirm. Hmmmmm, maybe that's what your Dad did! How much did he have to spend on shipping? Why weren't you celebrating WITH him, then maybe he'd know more about your kids tastes. BTW, what did your family send your Dad and Uncle?! This post made me think that the father may be sending what he - the father - would want, with the best of intentions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66515946 United Kingdom12/30/2014 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well no actually, it shows none of those things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66515946 I had this same accusation from in laws who actually said it - and I'll tell you what, it hurt tremendously for spoiled brand name only well off family to presume and accuse us 1) that we spent no thought when we actually did, 2) and that from now on we could buy their children just gift cards - It hurt tremendously. To this day the presumptions and assumptions that they made impact the relationship. Exactly. That's why this has so many people riled up. To actually say and do those things is A HUGE breech in social decorum. Some here might argue that mearly HAVING the thought is outside of etiquette. Ever see that episode of Gilligans Island where they could read each other's minds after eating a special nut? They wound up hating each other by the climax of the episode for this reason. It has nothing to do with "breaching social decorum". It has everything to do with the heart of the RECIPIENT. Look again at your letter. That is from your heart. If your heart values name brands, YOU will resent the person giving YOU a non branded item. The fault then is YOU. NOT THE GIFT GIVER. But to cover up your own decrepit ungrateful heart, YOU will accuse the gift giver as the cheap one - never accusing YOURSELF of being a brand only lover. But if one year, you have this brand name only covetness ripped out of YOUR heart, the gift-gifter will not be accused by YOU any longer when they give you a non brand name gift. See? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know. It's terrible isn't it? As I said, it's a card that would never be sent. But it does ask the question: Is quantity better than quality? Is it better to give a bunch of pointless Dollar store gifts that required no thought, or better to give no gift at all? Quoting: TheBiss Well no actually, it shows none of those things. I had this same accusation from in laws who actually said it - and I'll tell you what, it hurt tremendously for spoiled brand name only well off family to presume and accuse us 1) that we spent no thought when we actually did, 2) and that from now on we could buy their children just gift cards - It hurt tremendously. To this day the presumptions and assumptions that they made impact the relationship. That is SO rude, and it's completely understandable that you were hurt. OP, on the other hand, is keeping their thoughts away from the gift giver. OP is totally entitled to their opinion! |
| Bright Side Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 57641706 United States12/30/2014 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhhh, there's your REAL issue. It'd be more productive if you actually bitched about your Step Mom, your relationship with your Dad, or how this generous action made you feel like less of a man than to complain about gifts that you were given that simply didn't suit your tastes. Quoting: ThereRMeds4That Not to mention the hypocrisy of complaining about these gifts and then admitting he registered the "crap" to his B list (which I guess includes his mother in law? Wow...) Would love to see their Christmas letters back to him. But then that would just be another thread of OP missing the point when he screeches about his ungrateful MIL or the boy who's dating his daughter that will never propose because of the crappy workbench he disrespected him with. This thread is crazy. Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone. There will be casualties. You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me. Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well no actually, it shows none of those things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66515946 I had this same accusation from in laws who actually said it - and I'll tell you what, it hurt tremendously for spoiled brand name only well off family to presume and accuse us 1) that we spent no thought when we actually did, 2) and that from now on we could buy their children just gift cards - It hurt tremendously. To this day the presumptions and assumptions that they made impact the relationship. Exactly. That's why this has so many people riled up. To actually say and do those things is A HUGE breech in social decorum. Some here might argue that mearly HAVING the thought is outside of etiquette. Ever see that episode of Gilligans Island where they could read each other's minds after eating a special nut? They wound up hating each other by the climax of the episode for this reason. Thurston: Ready, Lovey? Lovey: Ready. (They each eat one magic seed) Rather like the flavor of truffles, haven't they? Thurston: Never mind what they taste like. Let's just see if they work. Lovey: I think a little hollandaise sauce would improve them. Thurston: This isn't a recipe contest. Now, Lovey, think of something. Lovey: All right. Ready. Thurston: You've changed your mind. Instead of hollandaise sauce you think they'd taste better with sauce béarnaise. Lovey: Oh darling, how clever of you! You read my mind exactly. Thurston: Yes, now I'll think of something. Better take a booster shot. Lovey: Really Thurston, how can you? Thurston: But, Lovey- Lovey: I don't mind your stealing from the other, but to steal seeds from your own wife. Why did I ever marry you? LOVE them! They did a good job of humorously representing the ego. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow you are an arrogant spoiled piece of shit and sounds like you married beneath you to boot and produced 2 more shining examples of ungratefulness and greed. Quoting: Bright Side I thought about not saying anything at all but you're attitude is over the top. Sorry you didn't get what you wanted for Christmas, you child, but maybe in this case you're right - your Dad would be better off not giving you anything. Most people give out of what they know of a person and absent from that, what they could see themselves wanting. If your Dad doesn't know your family well enough that's your fault and if he does but picks strange things well he's just part of the tribe of 95% of most men. I bet you he gave what he thought were great thoughtful gifts from his heart. You not taking that for what it's worth is your fault. You're the loser here not anyone else. To even think those things is horrible. . It's called being honest with yourself. I have no idea of the actual statistics, but I'd say half the population is thinking like this, and the other half would appreciate whatever they got. I'm in the first group. We're cognizant of the fact that it's great they made the effort. But because we would try not to send gifts that didn't mean more to the recipients, it puzzles us that other people would. Sounds like a lot of effort to even puzzle. Be grateful they thought of you, leave it at that. Spread the good karma by donating the items if they're really that useless to you. After 18 and the required food and shelter, no one in this world owes you ANYTHING let alone a Christmas gift. Y'all need to get over yourselves. My in laws give my kids each like $100 of toys from big lots every year. Not what I would choose but it's not my gift. They never last for more than a few days. But you know what - my kids live like toy kings for those few days and are delighted. My in laws love to feel like they spoiled the kids with lots of packages. I get 3 days of glorious bliss while they're constantly busy and happy. Win-win-win... I have very sensitive ski. And I'm very careful about what I use. They always give me bath sets I can't use. But I love them for even thinking about me and donate them. Then I buy what I can use and think warmly of them when I use it. My husband always always buys me sexy things. Who's that gift really for? But you know what - I'm grateful I have A husband who still wants to rattle my bones every day after 4 kids and a bit of age have taken over. The gift is really what you make it. To me, those sound like thoughtful gifts, and your reactions are gracious. I'm also going to have to check out Big Lots. I've just seen commercials for it on television, but have never actually visited one. Sounds like fun! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You OP are a complete ASS. How about being grateful that your Father and Uncle managed to send your family gifts at all. Quoting: ThereRMeds4That How much did he have to spend on shipping? Why weren't you celebrating WITH him, then maybe he'd know more about your kids tastes. BTW, what did your family send your Dad and Uncle?! Here's the deal. This year we were supposed to do Dirty Santa. Everyone in the family agreed to that. So each of us took one gift and expected to return with one gift. That was the agreement with the family. As we were leaving, my parents started divying out more gifts. That was not part of the agreement, and it made me pretty angry. Something else his wife can hold over my head now I suppose. What is "Dirty Santa"? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66520471 United States12/30/2014 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhhh, there's your REAL issue. It'd be more productive if you actually bitched about your Step Mom, your relationship with your Dad, or how this generous action made you feel like less of a man than to complain about gifts that you were given that simply didn't suit your tastes. Quoting: ThereRMeds4That It's interesting, observing myself, that I base my reactions on whether I perceive the players involved as men or women, e. g., is OP male or female, and does Dad have a wife that's doing the behind-the-scenes planning? I do think that giving more gifts was just an attempt to make Christmas more pleasant. But YOU SERIOUSLY NEVER KNOW. Some people would pull that stunt to undermine others. I am a realistic person, and will call a spade a spade, and not pretend everything is wine and roses when it's not. Sounds like a learning/growing experience for all, at any rate. |
