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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
Don't worry, MSM will use the same title you did, so to spin it properly.
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
Anyone who actuall owns a gun think a 2 year old could pull
The trigger. Most guns you have to pull
Pretty darn hard. Just sayin.
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You don't carry a gun with a gun lock.

Getting raped/robbed/attacked......Hold on one second I need to find the key to unlock my gun.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439282


Not necessarily.

I am a CHL and have been trained to disengage the safety with my thumb while gripping my gun - it's almost instantaneous. In the instances my safety is already off, the way I've been trained, it doesn't matter, my thumb just slides down across the switch anyway. I've trained with both hands and with several of our handguns. Now not all guns have the same safety buy all my self defense ones do...

I keep the safety on when I purse carry - I don't like the obvious bulge of the body carry.

If I body carry I go for the bersa with no safety because of its small size but it's just a 380. Not a great self defense choice imho. I prefer 9 mm or 40...
 Quoting: Bright Side


THIS^^
 Quoting: A Mommy




I really hope you don't own guns.....
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Why? Because I agree that a safety can be kept on the gun and released quick enough to be used in an altercation?
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Its so sad verysad

Makes me wonder why it had no gun lock verysad

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You don't carry a gun with a gun lock.

Getting raped/robbed/attacked......Hold on one second I need to find the key to unlock my gun.

Since she had it in her purse, the idiot shouldn't have left the purse anywhere. With kids around it should have constantly been on her shoulder/arm whatever.
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I never carry in my purse BC a purse could get stolen. Always carry on your person.
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where do you carry eekers? On me the bulge is pretty obvious in most clothes. I have a bra holster that is pretty discreet but is quite cumbersome.
You're the only one who gets to choose your vision... is the glass half empty or half full?

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Its so sad verysad

Makes me wonder why it had no gun lock verysad

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You don't carry a gun with a gun lock.

Getting raped/robbed/attacked......Hold on one second I need to find the key to unlock my gun.

Since she had it in her purse, the idiot shouldn't have left the purse anywhere. With kids around it should have constantly been on her shoulder/arm whatever.
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I never carry in my purse BC a purse could get stolen. Always carry on your person.
 Quoting: eekers


where do you carry eekers? On me the bulge is pretty obvious in most clothes. I have a bra holster that is pretty discreet but is quite cumbersome.
 Quoting: Bright Side


I have an inside the pants holster I carry on my right hip.

I recently got a thigh holster that looks like a corset. it's super cool! I wanted something to wear with dresses so I wouldn't have to put a gun in my purse. so far I've just worn it around the house and it's comfortable and keeps the gun in place. I figured I'd try it out first so I don't go out and about and drop the gun somewhere by mistake like a tard, but so far, so good.
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[ I agree gun lock is stupid...
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so is carrying a chambered round.
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[ I agree gun lock is stupid...
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so is carrying a chambered round.
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then you don't understand the premise using a weapon for self defense...

not like this will help my case but even cops chamber a round...
You're the only one who gets to choose your vision... is the glass half empty or half full?

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[ I agree gun lock is stupid...
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so is carrying a chambered round.
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then you don't understand the premise using a weapon for self defense...

not like this will help my case but even cops chamber a round...
 Quoting: Bright Side


yeah exactly. keep the gun holstered and you will be fine. any trainer will tell you to chamber a round.
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[ I agree gun lock is stupid...
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so is carrying a chambered round.
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then you don't understand the premise using a weapon for self defense...

not like this will help my case but even cops chamber a round...
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You're not a cop.

And I know far more about weapons than you ever will.
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then you don't understand the premise using a weapon for self defense...

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I've owned three hundred weapons over
the past forty years, and fired about
four hundred different makes.

I currently own one but only because
it was something my dad bought me about
thirty years ago and he left it for me
after he died.

Because guns represent power, they also
bind to ego. And a lot of the gun industry
is macho ego. I've shot matches with
Jeff Cooper and Michael Harries, Knight,
those guys, they've refined handgunning
into an art but art isn't really important
for self defense. Their art is all designed
around extreme edge cases which never occur
to the average person.

The woman in Idaho is dead because she
carried a chambered round, in probably one
of the safest areas in the United States.

Ridiculous.
That's about ego, not safety.

I suspect that even most police departments
don't carry a chambered round but I'd
have to go figure it out and I don't
care that much.

Even in the old wild west days, the standard
carry was five loaded rounds in a six
round cylinder, with hammer resting on
an empty chamber.
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
Ya know , I have been thinking about this and have to wonder is it even possible? A 2 year olds hand is not big enough to grip a glock so it would need two hands to pick it up and if it used to hands to pick it up theres no way a 2yo finger is long enough to reach the trigger and if this kid was a freak with 10" fingers still a 2yo finger extended fully probly couldnt exert the 6-7 lbs needed to get past the trigger break.

so how could this have happened the way they say it did?
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Ya know , I have been thinking about this and have to wonder is it even possible? A 2 year olds hand is not big enough to grip a glock so it would need two hands to pick it up and if it used to hands to pick it up theres no way a 2yo finger is long enough to reach the trigger and if this kid was a freak with 10" fingers still a 2yo finger extended fully probly couldnt exert the 6-7 lbs needed to get past the trigger break.

so how could this have happened the way they say it did?
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I totally agree.
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Very sad but at least it was not himself this time. I have a 2 year old and

have to constantly take my purse away from him. Kids that age love

playing with bags that contains lots of different items.
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
Its so sad verysad

Makes me wonder why it had no gun lock verysad

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 Quoting: A Mommy


How the fuck are you supposed to use a gun in an emergency situation with a gun lock? Are you fucking brain dead?

Yes, it is an awful thing that happened, the poor kid will end up omitting suicide when they understand what they did.
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
more concealed carry brilliance.

gun in purse is unattended weapon in public, anyone can get hold of it.


that kid now grows up not only motherless, but knowing he killed her. it will be decades before the child understands his mother is another 2nd ammendment victim, if he makes it that far.
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This does not pass the sniff test...

A two-year old? With enough grip strength and hand-span?

The only way would be a semi-auto, ready to fire, safety off, with a light trigger, and the kid doing the kung-foo grip.

Something stinks here. Any real gun owner would agree.
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
Chambered round walking though Walmart... first thing I thought of too and I see others have as well.
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What this story has proven to me:

1. Gun owners have no idea how easily their gun can be fired
2. No matter how safe you think it is to carry a gun on you, I could easily remove it from you
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What this story has proven to me:

1. Gun owners have no idea how easily their gun can be fired

2. No matter how safe you think it is to carry a gun on you, I could easily remove it from you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


This has been proven to you? Good grief.

There is so much stupid here I am struggling...

Anyway, as far as #2... go ahead and try to take my gun, see how easy it is.
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What this story has proven to me:

1. Gun owners have no idea how easily their gun can be fired

2. No matter how safe you think it is to carry a gun on you, I could easily remove it from you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


This has been proven to you? Good grief.

There is so much stupid here I am struggling...

Anyway, as far as #2... go ahead and try to take my gun, see how easy it is.
 Quoting: Azaziah


No problem. You wouldn't have even a second to react. Smash! Down you go, and now I outmuscle you and have your gun.
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Sorry to here about this.

This why I carry a Snap Cap in the Chamber when I carry I Know I have to cycle the slide to go Live Fire.

This prevents someone taking your firearm and Shooting you with it.

Had this woman done the same She Would Still be Alive.

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What this story has proven to me:

1. Gun owners have no idea how easily their gun can be fired

2. No matter how safe you think it is to carry a gun on you, I could easily remove it from you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


This has been proven to you? Good grief.

There is so much stupid here I am struggling...

Anyway, as far as #2... go ahead and try to take my gun, see how easy it is.
 Quoting: Azaziah


No problem. You wouldn't have even a second to react. Smash! Down you go, and now I outmuscle you and have your gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


The point, Einstein, is concealed carry. You have to see it to make a grab for it. Trust me, you will be as surprised as your boyfriend when it is un-concealed.
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What this story has proven to me:

1. Gun owners have no idea how easily their gun can be fired

2. No matter how safe you think it is to carry a gun on you, I could easily remove it from you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


This has been proven to you? Good grief.

There is so much stupid here I am struggling...

Anyway, as far as #2... go ahead and try to take my gun, see how easy it is.
 Quoting: Azaziah


No problem. You wouldn't have even a second to react. Smash! Down you go, and now I outmuscle you and have your gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


The point, Einstein, is concealed carry. You have to see it to make a grab for it. Trust me, you will be as surprised as your boyfriend when it is un-concealed.
 Quoting: Azaziah



Holsters are obvious. I know you have a gun from hundreds of feet away. You guys think you're slick, but you're not.
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This has been proven to you? Good grief.

There is so much stupid here I am struggling...

Anyway, as far as #2... go ahead and try to take my gun, see how easy it is.
 Quoting: Azaziah


No problem. You wouldn't have even a second to react. Smash! Down you go, and now I outmuscle you and have your gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


The point, Einstein, is concealed carry. You have to see it to make a grab for it. Trust me, you will be as surprised as your boyfriend when it is un-concealed.
 Quoting: Azaziah



Holsters are obvious. I know you have a gun from hundreds of feet away. You guys think you're slick, but you're not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44802939


I stand corrected. You are good. And you obviously know what you are talking about.
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Another good reason to not carry with one in the chamber. And to never carry in a purse.
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Oh thankyou Mr. Hindsight!
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
Chambered round walking though Walmart... first thing I thought of too and I see others have as well.
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What, have you SEEN some of the creatures in there?

Full combat outfit I say. Keep low and roll every 3 seconds.
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Chambered round walking though Walmart... first thing I thought of too and I see others have as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813144


What, have you SEEN some of the creatures in there?

Full combat outfit I say. Keep low and roll every 3 seconds.
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This Walmart was in lily-white Idaho in a town with less people than my high school had.
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Chambered round walking though Walmart... first thing I thought of too and I see others have as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813144


What, have you SEEN some of the creatures in there?

Full combat outfit I say. Keep low and roll every 3 seconds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65916119


This Walmart was in lily-white Idaho in a town with less people than my high school had.
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You don't understand. That's exactly where THEY hide.....
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Re: Toddler shoots mom in walmart
This does not pass the sniff test...

A two-year old? With enough grip strength and hand-span?

The only way would be a semi-auto, ready to fire, safety off, with a light trigger, and the kid doing the kung-foo grip.

Something stinks here. Any real gun owner would agree.
 Quoting: Azaziah


When people accidentally shoot themselves, do you think they actually pull the trigger or happen to hit the trigger? That is the only way it could have happened with the kid. It is strange that his mom was a nuclear research scientist.

Last Edited by KimmieAnnaJones on 01/01/2015 07:39 AM
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This does not pass the sniff test...

A two-year old? With enough grip strength and hand-span?

The only way would be a semi-auto, ready to fire, safety off, with a light trigger, and the kid doing the kung-foo grip.

Something stinks here. Any real gun owner would agree.
 Quoting: Azaziah


When people accidentally shoot themselves, do you think they actually pull the trigger or happen to hit the trigger? That is the only way it could have happened with the kid. It is strange that his mom was a nuclear research scientist.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones



so if she had been a gang banger or a garbage collector, would you have still given 2 shits ?

accidents happen to all sorts of people even "Nuclear" Scientist





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