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"Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video

 
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WELCOME to any of Bridge of Sighs/Nemesis8 followers
from his thread! Always great to see GLP Members working
in "synch!" Be sure to check out his thread at link below:
Thread: Thought I'd something more to say...
Bridge's thread has gained more than 78,000 views to date,
so lots of interest in this topic!

Just a thought:
What if people KNEW that Dr. Carl Jung had a keen
interest in all things "catastrophic-geology-related"
(thanks to his friend and "secret mentor" Immanuel
Velikovsky? Knowing this TODAY may give more traction
to this new science discipline to learn about our
"forbidden past!" Hope my thread, below, helps that
effort.

I DEDICATE THIS THREAD TO CATASTROPHIC-GEOLOGISTS EVERYWHERE
(and especially to Ben Davidson/SuspiciousObservers and
his good friend who has passed Michael Steinbacher a great guy!)




EDITED: 5-25-2019 2 New important threads for you:
Some very interesting NEW INFORMATION about the "secret
friendship" between Dr. Carl Jung and "rogue scientist/
psychiatrist" Immanuel Velikovsky--and WHAT JUNG WAS TOLD
ABOUT A COMING GLOBAL CATASTROPHE--has surfaced on GLP.
A "soft-disclosure" by Douglas Vogt on GLP by "Adragon"
with a featured video TELLS the rest of the story we never
knew about "disturbing information" Jung would have received
from Velikovsky's research which EXPLAINS JUNG'S PAINTINGS!
This is my new thread--lets look with FRESH EYES at
Dr. Carl Jung's "The Red Book" paintings and SEE the real
"context" in which he would have created "disturbing images."
Thread: Update Pg.1: Dr. Carl Jung's "Catastrophe-Art" Meets Velikovsky, Vogt, Davidson and the Solar Micro-Nova--Did Jung KNOW?
and
Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
"Soft-disclosure on the Solar Micro-Nova"
from Dr. Douglas Vogt from GLP's Adragon.
Velikovsky knew about this info just now reaching
the public 60 years later!


EDITED: 12-01-2015

Here is something to read on a "cold winter's day!"
verycold



END EDITS

eqeqeqeq

"Hey! Did you feel THAT...Was that an earthquake?
Was it the winds from the next Winter Mega-storm?..."

ANSWER: "Oh THAT? No...that was the sound of people's
jaws dropping when they realize that Carl Jung and
Immanuel Velikovsky were not only friends
, but that
they embraced fully "catastrophic geology" just as that
presented THIS MONTH in Graham Hancock's book: "Magicians
of the Gods!"


Please watch at least 1/2 of this excellent video
(1970's BBC Documentary on Immanuel Velikovsky's theories.)
Without the "basic knowledge" of who Velikovsky was, and
what his "catastrophic geology theory" involves, you will
probably NOT understand Carl Jung's "Red Book!"


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
This 1972 BBC documentary on the theories of
Emmanuel Velikovsky is a little "dated" but well
worth watching JUST FOR THE 3 MINUTES that the
brilliant man speaks (fast-forward to the 3:00 min
mark thru the 5:30 min mark to hear Velikovksy's
personal "take" on current mind-sets of mainstream
science. IMHO NOTHING has changed since he made these
comments in 1972...and in fact, the disinformation
and "hype" has only gotten worse!


JungzCometLvJoy

I watched the video above...and this Jung painting
of "the Christmas DRAGON" is much more clear, now!

EDITED 3-27-219 NEW INFORMATION WITH A 12-2018 VIDEO
FROM DOUGLAS VOGT:
[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
12-2018 "Soft-disclosure on the Solar Micro-Nova"
from Dr. Douglas Vogt from GLP's Adragon.

This image from Carl Jung's own paintings in the
"Red Book" could have been inserted into BOTH VIDEOS
(see videos above) as an illustration of a "coming
1-2-PUNCH affecting planet Earth with a Galactic Super
Wave and its TRIGGERING a Solar Micro-Nova Event. It's my
theory that many of Carl Jung's paintings were his private attempts
to integrate information coming his way from his
secret friend and mentor, Emmanuel Velikovksy.


Jung's notations in his heir's compilation of his artwork
and personal memoirs in "The Red Book"--showing his amazing
60-year long anticipation of comets, climate disasters
and a repeat of the "Vela Supernova of 9,500 b.c." (after
the year 2000 A.D.) were the basis for his creating a
"German mythology codex" of SECRET paintings and stories

written in beautiful calligraphy in his own hand.*


A LOOK AT THE SO-CALLED "DISTURBED" (?) ARTWORK COMPOSED
BY CARL JUNG IN A VIDEO PRESENTATION (by the "Jung-Whisperer")

Here is a video "tour" of more of his paintings from Carl
Jungs "Red Book."



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
FairUSE (For education/discussion, Thank you!)
This is a long video that shows many of the pictures of
the book. THE NARRATOR WHISPERS THROUGH THE ENTIRE
VIDEO...
which I find to be very soothing...but some of you may
not. You can turn the volume off, tho and watch the pictures
come up. He's doing this because he is FILMING IN A
LIBRARY! lol!


Enjoy!
cheers
O'sCookie

SiggyzRabbit

THE "SMEAR-CAMPAIGN" HITS MAINSTREAM MEDIA
(with articles in "The New York Times Magazine" and "Psychology Today Magazine")--will Big Pharma win
it's CURRENT BID for the "chemical straight-jacket"
to replace traditional (and more effective) practice
of "Analytical Psychology" based on the groundbreaking
work by Carl Jung? This thread is an ANSWER to their
rediculous attacks on Carl Jung and his mental state.


Let's look at the "smear-campaign" that was recently waged against the
reputation of one of the greatest minds of the twentieth century
--Carl Jung. My "take" on the REASON for this "attack" is what
we are currently seeing as "Big Pharma's" bid to make all emotional
illness candidates for "chemical straight-jackets" rather than the
traditional one-on-one "talking cure" by Analytic Psychology--which
is far more effective than drugging individuals has shown to be a
"cure" not just a sedative/band-aide! There are BILLIONS of dollars
at stake here--and the pressure on traditional psychiatry and
psychology is exploding. From Big Pharma's perspective it is and well
worth the "launch of a psy-ops attack" on this wonderful branch
of our medical community and its founder, Carl Jung, as the scientist.

First we'll look at the remarkable effort to "discredit" both Jung and his budding
"Analytical Psychology" and then we'll look at some little known facts about Jung's
association with Immanuel Velikovsky and what was behind Jung's possible "Cassandra Complex"
(a term for the disorder which Jung himself coined for Analytic Psychology
...ending up having it himself!)

One excellent example of a "Cassandra Complex" would be an incorrect diagnosis by the
psychiatrist playing opposite Bruce Willis's time-traveling character called "12 Monkies."
Willis, in his attempt change history by coming back in time ends up the patient of
an unbelieving doctor who eventually "catches" the Cassandra Complex herself.
In the "smear campaign" against Carl Jung, it is LACK OF THE "VELIKOVSKY CONTEXT" which
Jung has that they are not taking into consideration in their articles.

According to this "New York Times Magazine" article titled:
"The Holy Grail of the Unconscious" the author
of the Times analyzes Carl Jung's very unusual (posthumous) published work by Jung's heirs: "The Red Book," to find that what he believes is the "smoking-gun" to Jung's being "mad!" This book indicates (to the NY Times author, at least) that Carl Jung may have been "deeply disturbed"--even suffering from a nervous breakdown--and (using the vehicle of this 200 page tome) "attempted to work out his DEMONS." Was "The Red Book" aimed to exorcise demons--or is it a well-hidden "visual and intuitive" message from Jung to his followers of "catastrophic earth-changes" he learned at the knee of Immanuel Velikovsky?

Here is an excerpt:

Quote
"...This is a story about a nearly 100-year-old book, bound in red leather, which has spent the last quarter century secreted away in a bank vault in Switzerland. The book is big and heavy and its spine is etched with gold letters that say Liber Novus, which is Latin for New Book. Its pages are made from thick cream-colored parchment and filled with paintings of otherworldly creatures and handwritten dialogues with gods and devils. If you didn’t know the book’s vintage, you might confuse it for a lost medieval tome."
End quote


ShrinkTalk


NY Times author is saying in short form: "Jung was a NUT case who wrote a fancy art-book!" (I don't agree!)


"The Red Book" had been hidden in a Switzerland vault for over 80 years only published after Jung's death (as per his own instructions.) The magazine articles describe Jung's disturbing book as reading more like a mythological Greek play than a book written by a clinical psychologist. Jung's own hand-drawn illustrations look to be from someone under the influence of LSD or on Mesq...but of course, this is not the case. The articles are both very good, if not short-sighted in its interpretations due to a lack of CONTEXT, however.
[link to www.nytimes.com]

AND...

This second article from "Psychology Today" follows suit saying:
Quote:
"...The recently published and impressive-looking Red Book (2009) tells the personal story of psychiatrist C.G. Jung's insidious descent into what many believe to have been madness, and his eventual triumphant return to the world a transformed man."
END QUOTE

[link to www.psychologytoday.com]
Here is another excerpt:

Quote:
"......["The Red Book" is]...An inner dialogue with himself, with his unconscious, his complexes, his "demons," his soul, those personal and archetypal aspects of his personality that had been neglected, denied or underdeveloped, and with what he calls the "spirit of the depths."
END QUOTE

Each of these repressed elements of his psyche manifest in dreams and waking visions as vivid images, many of which Jung--who had studied art and painting as a young man--depicts vibrantly in his journal, leading eventually to the technique of encouraging his patients in analysis to
draw or paint images from their own dreams. Jung's therapeutic technique of active imagination stems directly from these sometimes frightening but edifiying and enlightening conversations with himself."
End quote

CJzMandalla

Father of modern "Jungian Psychology" Carl Jung is shown here with one of his favorite Tibetan Mandallas. Jung had a preoccupation during his life with both Tibetan and Egyptian symbolism and mythology...and in particular, a strange sub-conscious relationship with the scarab beetle (Symbol for Egyptian Goddess "Khepra") that would truly haunt him for his entire lifetime.


So...was Carl Jung "mentally ill during his career,"
as the magazine articles try to suggest? Did he have at least one psychotic breakdown in his lifetime? All they would have needed to squelch the debate is the realization
that there is a LINK between this Jung-painting and the "Argha Noa" artifact below it--the "poster-child symbol"
of Ancient Egypt and Sumeria for the Great Flood of 9,500 b.c. Check it out!

JunzBoat
:TutzArkOnoah:

First, Jung was suggesting the torment of a Universal "collective trauma" which ALL humans carry from birth--as
well as actual clinical notes from unusual patient files he was bound under doctor-patient confidentiality to not make public. With his death and the passing of some 80 years after Jung began to pen the book it can be assumed that everyone who could be embarrassed or damaged (including Jung, himself) was long dead and buried.

The Visionary "Father of Psychology," Carl Jung may NOT have been "disturbed" at all like the "Psychology Today" and "Time Magazine" articles proposed...but rather--in my own observation from "a Jungean insider's CONTEXT"--realized he was NOT "mad" but Jung may have been suffering from a classic psychological complex revolving around both
shocking information he could not reveal to another human being PLUS paradigm-changing experiences from certain client sessions. Irony of ironies Jung is credited with discovering the condition with which he himself suffered: "the Cassandra Complex."

ShrinkTalk
"The Big Dream" from Classic Jungian Psychology:

To clarify why I even composed this thread (it is definitely "hitting a few nerves" on GLP today as I'm
first posting it...I'll explain what happened this week.)
The whole thing is about "synchronicity"--Jung's most
famous idea--and ironically, that I was working on a GLP thread on Egyptian/Sumerian symbolism for another book topic. (Carl Jung never even came up in these threads, by the way!) I've been concerned about Comet Lovejoy Q2's appearance this Christmas and have been having a "hinky" that there is something important about Lovejoy that nobody is talking about. Part of this has to do with my own
"Cassandra Complex" and not being able to convince a
single family member that "Earth Changes" are underway
and to LEAVE the big cities and U.S. coastlines.

If "The Cassandra Complex" doesn't sound familiar, don't get a dictionary...You already know what it is, you just don't know the formal name for it. It has come up in the theme of at least a dozen well-known movies in the past 20 years.

WHAT IS A "CASSANDRA COMPLEX?"

Easiest way to explain a "Cassandra Complex" is the part Dennis Quaid plays in "The Day After Tomorrow." His efforts to convince government officials and the President of the U.S. of what he "sees coming" falls on deaf ears and even brings ridicule. Like Jung would find in real life, Quaid's character wants to warn humanity against the coming climate disaster but at the same time realizes that to do so will brand him as a "rogue scientist" which could destroy his credibility and his career. (This was also true of another of my favorite "Cassandra" cases, Immanuel Velikovsky.)



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"The Day After Tomorrow" movie was taken from the book by the same name written by Art Bell and Whitley Streiber.

:XmasLovejoy:

Part TWO of this thread will be up later tonight or tomorrow
for New Year's Day. If you're hung-over, enjoy reading it
while you recover! lol!

Other GLP threads on Jung's "The Red Book"

Jung's QUOTES:
From April 2014:
Thread: C. G. Jung - The Red Book, dream 100 year anniversary approaches
(These do NOT contain the info I am presenting in my thread!)
1914, in the month of June, a "Cold" had fallen from space . . .everything frozen.

February 2014
Thread: Was C. G. Jung, insane? "The RED BOOK" a trip into his unconsciousness!

Under 'The Way of What is to Come, Soul and God'

October 2011 (by "Queen Bea)
Thread: CG Jung & The Red Book

Hope you enjoyed the thread--be sure to check
Part 2 of the thread as well!
cheers
O'sCookie

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Here is a little taste of Part 2 of this Jung thread...

EDITED: 10-03-2015
As my research has progressed and the GLP-"brain-storming"
has continued on another few months, I wanted to ALSO
POST HERE another "connect-the-dot" scenario concerning
WHAT DID CARL JUNG KNOW ABOUT EARTH'S "HIDDEN PAST?"
I think you will find this very interesting, as there
is no doubt in my mind that Immanuel Velikovsky was privy
to the information about the "Galactic Super Wave Theory."
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Dr. Paul LaVoilette,
who is credited with the recent research into the "WAVE"
picked up on Velikovsky's theories and ran with it in
the 1980's! Check this out:
Thread: Uh oh! "Historic Doom Symbol" in the NASA Logo! Think that TPTB don't know what's coming? Check this out! Video
and
Thread: “Intergalactic Wave” aka Wave X... the frequency shift
AND
Thread: 6-16-19 UPdate NASA: "Tsunami-Energy-Waves" caught by Voyager 1 In-bound! Is This First Sign of "The Wave?" Video
Lots of reading there! Hope you find something that
lights a fire under your imagination!


Here is a presentation for New Years--a funny Comet
Lovejoy "update!"


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
FairUSE
Love this guy's stuff--even if it is a little more
light-hearted, naughty and "artsie" than Suspicious Observers 4-Minute News!

There's room for many flowers in the garden, right?

Excerpt from "The Red Book"


[b]
And here is Jung's report of a vision he had before WWI

(this would be very close to his "synchronicity" experience
in his New York Office with the scarab beetle--when Jung
was reportedly starting to "secret-away" session notes--
his own dream analysis and paintings from his visions/subconscious--later to be published in "The Red Book." All these would be published well after his death in 2009 (remember quote was before he and Immanuel Velikovsky met and Velikovsky added even MORE information to the "cataclysm-visions" Jung inherently felt were coming!):

Quote:
[15] It happened in October of the year 1913 as I was leaving alone for a journey, that during the day I was suddenly overcome in broad daylight by a vision: I saw a terrible flood that covered all the northern and low-lying lands between the North Sea and the Alps. It reached from England up to Russia, and from the coast of the North Sea right up to the Alps. I saw yellow waves, swimming rubble, and the death of countless thousands.

This vision lasted for two hours, it confused me and made me ill. I was not able to interpret it. Two weeks passed then the vision returned, still more violent than before, and an inner voice spoke: "Look at it, it is completely real, and it will come to pass. You cannot doubt this." I wrestled again for two hours with this vision, but it held me fast. It left me exhausted and confused. And I thought my mind had gone crazy. [16]

You can see why, when reading the above excerpt, Carl
Jung would have had to been his "own council" in matters
involving visions and personal dreams. He lived in fear of being discredited and ridiculed for most of his career--never confiding these "secret things" to anyone, not even his immediate family members. Certainly, watching the explosion of professional attacks on fellow genius and psychiatrist, Immanuel Velikovsky from the 1950's thru the 1970's he would be glad that he didn't come forward with info he had accumulated.

Here are some brief quotes:
Page 233: You should say, “The life I can still live I should live.

And the thoughts I could still think I should think.”

Page 245: No one has my God, but my God has everyone.

Page 263: If no outer adventure happens to you, then no inner in adventure happens to you either.

Page 264: The soul demands your folly, not your wisdom. (This statement by Jung was in response to an old scholar in his visions who became rigid in his thinking.)

Page 266: Your heights are your own mountain, then you are at your best. At your low point you are no longer distinct from your fellow beings. You are not ashamed and do not regret it.

Page 283: Bring your God with you. Bear him down to your dark land where people live who rub their eyes each morning and yet always see the same thing and never anything else.

Paged 284: Your voice is too weak for those raging to be able to hear. Thus do not speak and do not show the God, but sit in a solitary place and sing incantations in the ancient manner.

Page 316: I understand you Philemon, you are a true lover because you love your soul for the sake of men, because they need a king who lives from himself and owes no one gratitude for his life.

(I wanted to substitute “an individual” for the word king, thinking that the word king may be misunderstood. But I decided not to change the quote.

Jung is referring to Philemon, a god he is trying to integrate as the archetype of the wise old man.)

I can understand why Carl Jung put off publishing this book within his own lifetime. It could easily have been misquoted or misunderstood.

If you have not read Jung, I’d recommend beginning with his
autobiography: Memories, Dreams, Reflections.
END QUOTE

cheers
O'sCookie

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Looking forward to the rest.
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jung was not mad. the red book is a highly esoteric symbolical piece of literature that most people will not comprehend at all. Therefore when people don't have the necessary understanding to grasp complex symbology and deep artistic meaning, they claim the person expressing these things is insane.
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jung was not mad. the red book is a highly esoteric symbolical piece of literature that most people will not comprehend at all. Therefore when people don't have the necessary understanding to grasp complex symbology and deep artistic meaning, they claim the person expressing these things is insane.
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Smear campgaign by the Sigmund Fraudists.
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jung was not mad. the red book is a highly esoteric symbolical piece of literature that most people will not comprehend at all. Therefore when people don't have the necessary understanding to grasp complex symbology and deep artistic meaning, they claim the person expressing these things is insane.
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Well said...and I would just add, especially if the
people doing the analysis do not have a proper "context"
for what the author is writing about. Just like the work
of Leonardo Davinci (who had his own agenda and was known
to be secretive--even writing his notes backwards and in
code to avoid their translation)...Carl Jung didn't WANT
everything that he knew and thought to be totally transparent.
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Smear campgaign by the Sigmund Fraudists.
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If there was, in fact, a conspiracy to publish a book that
might make Jung and his psychology practices look bad, my
vote would be "Big Pharma." If they could just get all the
shrinks to do away with the talking-cure as some call his methods (and they DO WORK by the way)...then they could sell more of their little magic drugs.

Always follow the money! lol!
Thanks for the post!
cheer
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Looking forward to the rest.
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Thanks "Turtles Voice!"
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I am confused OP are you saying the two artciles you link to suggest Jung was nuts. have not read them yet.

are you also saying it was You who had vision of jung and patient and the beetle? This did no actually happen to Jung. Because on another thread just recently you posted about the red book and mentioned the beetle story as if it was something that happened to Jung.


Finally, what is the purpose of this thread. what information are you trying to communicate? what is new about it? what Is your background, experience to deliver suchinformation.

thank you and happy new year
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I am confused OP are you saying the two artciles you link to suggest Jung was nuts. have not read them yet.

Yes...That's pretty much what they are saying. They
are convinced that either Jung was in a "walking nervous breakdown" for most of his life, but carried it without anyone knowing it...or that he suffered a serious psychotic break which was NOT reported and he was behind the scenes attempting to cure himself with the exercises he puts down in his book (and assuming that he was "cured.")

Next question:
"...are you also saying it was You who had vision of Jung and patient and the beetle? This did no actually happen to Jung. Because on another thread just recently you posted about the red book and mentioned the beetle story as if it was something that happened to Jung.


First of all, yes, the scarab beetle story of Jung interviewing a troubled patient with night terrors concerning Egyptian Scarab Beetles--with an actual scarab
beetle showing up at his New York office window and flying around the office back in the 1920's did in fact happen.

The addition to this is that this "report" is all that is ever placed in the textbooks about just how Jung arrived at his theory of "synchronicity." What I was wondering about for weeks as I researched symbolism from Egypt and Sumeria for another thread, was "So...what ELSE HAPPENED in the office that day...for this event to have such a life-long subconscious impact on Jung, something in addition to just the scarab beetle showing up must have happened BUT has NOT been reported happened that day. (Jung would have been the only person to know what transpired between him and the patient that day...(after the scarab beetle has entered the room--and his patient is probably "tweeking out" pretty badly...and THAT, in fact, is the subject matter and the inspiration for the pictures in the "Red Book." Other interviews of Jung in his later years revealed that he carried a deep-seated fear of what he knew--so much so that he did not discuss it with anyone else, not even his own family members and carefully drew pictures and wrote down "encoded stories and narrations" later published as "The Red Book."

THAT is when my "Big Dream" (as Jung would call it) comes into play. I dreamed what the actual scenario MIGHT HAVE BEEN after the scarab beetle flies into the room--and it's addition info that Jung received--but never revealed out of fear that it could damage his blossoming career and a new medical industry growing up around his ideas.

Last question:
Finally, what is the purpose of this thread. what information are you trying to communicate? what is new about it? what Is your background, experience to deliver such information.

Wow! If you haven't even read the thread yet, you may want to go back up and read it. You are asking a great deal here! All I can tell you is to read Part TWO when I post it later tonight or tomorrow as that may answer some of your questions. Thank you very much for reminding me--I will need to so a summary and make sure that the things you are asking here are made clear.
It is difficult to tell you how I "qualify" to bring forward this information, without keeping my precious anonymity here of the GLP Forum. I can tell you, however, that I have an equivalent of a Masters Degree in Psychology (no formal degree but course work toward it without a thesis beyond by B.S. in History and Religion from a NW University.) I have a real passion for anything Egyptian as well as catastrophe-sciences of Khemetology as per Stephen Mehler. As for what I am trying to communicate is...Well, read Part 2. Don't you want something to look forward to?
Thanks for your questions.
cheers
O'sCookie
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Thank you for your response OP. It is odd but it was what you said in another thread about the red book that jolted something in me. I started looking at jungian related stuff and even considering seeing a jungian therapist, but might now wait on that and hear what you have to say.
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I am confused OP are you saying the two artciles you link to suggest Jung was nuts. have not read them yet.

are you also saying it was You who had vision of jung and patient and the beetle? This did no actually happen to Jung. Because on another thread just recently you posted about the red book and mentioned the beetle story as if it was something that happened to Jung.


Finally, what is the purpose of this thread. what information are you trying to communicate? what is new about it? what Is your background, experience to deliver suchinformation.

thank you and happy new year
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Here...this is just for you--I wrote a short new summary
paragraph at the top of the thread...It's a work-in-progress
as I said!

Were Jung's notations in "The Red Book" showing his 30-year long anticipation of Comets, climate disasters and a repeat of the "Vela Supernova of 9,500 b.c." (after the year 2000 A.D.) the basis for creating a "German mythology code" in SECRET paintings and creative stories eventually coming public now in "The Red Book?" Was he a psychiatrist-version of someone like Immanuel Velikovsky rather through art and myth trying to give future generations a warning. Did his effort drive him crazy with an undiagnosed "Cassandra Complex?"
If you are curious about THESE kinds of things...let's look at Jung's "The Red Book" strangeness together!

Hope that helps!
:cheers"
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Freud makes his Jewish supremacist viewpoint very clear in a letter to a Jewish woman who intended to conceive a
child by a Gentile to heal the split in psychoanalysis. His words were:
I must confess...that your fantasy about the birth of the Savior to a mixed union did not appeal to me at
all. The Lord, in that anti-Jewish period, had him born from the superior Jewish race. But I know these
are my prejudices. [565]
Chapter 18: Jews, Communism and Civil Rights [My Awakening by David Duke] Page 5 of 13
[link to www.solargeneral.com] 12/16/2005
A year later the same woman gave birth to a child fathered by a Jew. Freud responded
I am, as you know, cured of the last shred of my predilection for the Aryan cause, and would like to take it
that if the child turned out to be a boy he will develop into a stalwart Zionist. He or she must be dark in
any case, no more towheads. Let us banish all these will-o'-the-wisps!
I shall not present my compliments to Jung in Munich, as you know perfectly well.... We are and remain
Jews. The others will only exploit us and will never understand and appreciate us. (quoted in Yerushalmi
1991, 45).
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Have no idea where this quote came from, but Carl Jung was
not a Jew. He was raised in Switzerland as a Lutheran sect of Christianity. His father, was in fact, a Christian elder of his church. So...the Jew card doesn't wash in this case!
Interesting post, tho!
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Have you read The Red Book cover to cover OP?

Do you own your own copy of said?
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Sorry...is this a bait question?
...And coming from a friend...how sad.

Brings up an interesting point, Tampa. If a person
REALLY wanted to get the full-monty with regard to a
complete knowledge of "The Red Book" one would need to
know German thoroughly (the book is written in German)
because the people who are currently doing the deciphering
for the English versions are deciphering the book
totally out of context--and probably with their own "agenda" in mind (religion, politics, medical scams, etc.)

The person would need to have a fairly hefty book budget, a hard-bound fully illustrated version of the book sells for $200.00. Anybody here have a spare $200.00?

There is a video "virtual tour" of the "Red Book" on
the Intro page up now (12-01-2015) that I just added,
since not everyone is familiar with the book.

I can tell you that I've studied Jung in University
psychology (it was my minor) and that the current
excerpts available on the net can give you a "fair"
working knowledge of what the book contains if you keep alert to avoid the ones with an agenda. Like I already commented...if there was anyone with an "agenda" to smear Carl Jung's reputation and brilliant career...it would be "Big Pharma." But that's just me.
hf
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I am confused OP are you saying the two artciles you link to suggest Jung was nuts. have not read them yet.

are you also saying it was You who had vision of jung and patient and the beetle? This did no actually happen to Jung. Because on another thread just recently you posted about the red book and mentioned the beetle story as if it was something that happened to Jung.


Finally, what is the purpose of this thread. what information are you trying to communicate? what is new about it? what Is your background, experience to deliver suchinformation.

thank you and happy new year
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His point is that the father of what we call Psychology may have been as nutty as a fruit bat and all following teachings may be wrong and pushing snake oil off as cures.
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Thank you OP for posting this very interesting thread! I actually started reading one of his books a couple of days ago called "Synchronicity" as I find this one of his most intruiging concepts. I'm very much looking forward to the next parts!
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Excerpt from "The Red Book"

And here is Jung's report of a vision he had before WWI
(this would be very close to his "synchronicity" experience
in his New York Office with the scarab beetle--and when
we was reportedly starting to "secret-away" session notes,
his own dream analysis and paintings from his visions/dreams--later to be published in "The Red Book"
published well after his death in 2009:


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I downloaded the full Red Book (original, drawings,
english translation) and red a couple of chapters.

This part was quite interesting to me, that he had
a couple of visions in 1913 which could have
represented WW1.

Unfortunately, a lot of his other writing is too
dense and detailed, I'd really like a paragraph
by paragraph synopsis, like a Cliff's Notes.
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The person would need to have a fairly hefty book budget, a hard-bound fully illustrated version of the book sells for $200.00. Anybody here have a spare $200.00?

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you can download it.

I'll try to find the site I used.
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Thank you OP for posting this very interesting thread! I actually started reading one of his books a couple of days ago called "Synchronicity" as I find this one of his most intruiging concepts. I'm very much looking forward to the next parts!
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Thank you, A.C. I have to tell you that "synchronicity"
has been one of the driving influences from Carl Jung thru
most of my life. I experienced what I consciously recall as my "first synchronicity" when I was 5. It was close to Holloween Day. It was a memory that still comforts me when I get the "blues!"
Thanks for you post.
hf
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The person would need to have a fairly hefty book budget, a hard-bound fully illustrated version of the book sells for $200.00. Anybody here have a spare $200.00?

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you can download it.

I'll try to find the site I used.
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pretty sure I downloaded it from here...

[link to www.stillnessspeaks.com]


I agree about the German translation/agenda
but I'm not going to learn German just to
read it, so the english translation is the
best I've got.
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Who Cares I have never meet a shrink that was not disturbed

or off there rocker. that is why the go into the profession

in the first place to find out what the hell there problems

are.
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"Frasier" is one of my favorite shows! Thanks for the
laugh! Really good episode that one.
hf
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There is a very, very fine line between genius and insanity. Some of the greatest things mankind has seen have come from minds that others would mark as completely delusional and insane. That ability is what allows them to think outside of the box. Sometimes an obsessiveness necessary to follow the thought process through to completion. Having said that in no way would I ever believe Jung to be disturbed in that fashion. He was brilliant period.
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I am confused OP are you saying the two artciles you link to suggest Jung was nuts. have not read them yet.

are you also saying it was You who had vision of jung and patient and the beetle? This did no actually happen to Jung. Because on another thread just recently you posted about the red book and mentioned the beetle story as if it was something that happened to Jung.


Finally, what is the purpose of this thread. what information are you trying to communicate? what is new about it? what Is your background, experience to deliver suchinformation.

thank you and happy new year
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His point is that the father of what we call Psychology may have been as nutty as a fruit bat and all following teachings may be wrong and pushing snake oil off as cures.
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lol! That's funny!
I hope that you aren't saying that Oracle'sCookie believes
that these 2 articles I've quoted are CORRECT in their
assessment of Carl Jung? No...I do NOT agree with the
articles and would never say that Jung was "disturbed"
other than maybe "world-weary" for what he had witnessed in his long life.

I put the articles up there just to show how VASTLY off
the mark people who do critical analysis of someone's
writing/artwork can be WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONTEXT of the
subject! Jung had important information about certain
past history (mainly the catastrophe of 9,500 b.c.) as early as the 1920's. This was well before the announcements by Immanuel Velikovsky about his discoveries.

Jung reportedly "received" this information through various dreams and a vision (see Post #2) during a particularly stressful voyage back to his home in Switzerland from Scotland as WWI was just breaking out.
He claims the "vision" lasted a full 2 hours and made him extremely fearful of what he had seen. He drew many paintings about this even, as well as the one with the scarab beetle in "The Red Book." These were NOT symbolic but actual renderings of REAL THINGS Jung actually saw or experienced!
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The Red Book has been out for, like, FIVE years now.

WTF are you on about, OP?
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Many people have never heard of it. 5 years is NOTHING
when getting important info out there. And, I doubt that
the interpretation of the "Red Book" as I am doing in
my 2 threads is any place you have read, A.C. By the way,
I didn't have a "Big Dream" about the book 5 years ago...
just happened. So, I'm here to talk about it!

It's NEW YEARS EVE...what do you think I'd be "on?"
lol!

Cheers
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There is a very, very fine line between genius and insanity. Some of the greatest things mankind has seen have come from minds that others would mark as completely delusional and insane. That ability is what allows them to think outside of the box. Sometimes an obsessiveness necessary to follow the thought process through to completion. Having said that in no way would I ever believe Jung to be disturbed in that fashion. He was brilliant period.
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(If you will read my introduction and not just go by the title of the thread (which I'll admit is somewhat of a
lost leader...You will realize that this is what I am attempting to do! Jung is my hero!)
hf
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Who Cares I have never meet a shrink that was not disturbed

or off there rocker. that is why the go into the profession

in the first place to find out what the hell there problems

are.
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Probably true, Zombie Dad...Probably true (except for
Jung...he was pretty cool!)
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There is a very, very fine line between genius and insanity. Some of the greatest things mankind has seen have come from minds that others would mark as completely delusional and insane. That ability is what allows them to think outside of the box. Sometimes an obsessiveness necessary to follow the thought process through to completion. Having said that in no way would I ever believe Jung to be disturbed in that fashion. He was brilliant period.
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(If you will read my introduction and not just go by the title of the thread (which I'll admit is somewhat of a
lost leader...You will realize that this is what I am attempting to do! Jung is my hero!)
hf
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hugs LOL Well I had no argument really. Just wanted to give you a pat on the back. I love him as well :)
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Op this is a great thread! I love Jung as well, and I also think he is a master at coding hidden messages. There is much to find in Jung's works, but you need to read it over and over again, meditating on it and dreaming about it like you did. I cannot wait to hear about your "big dream". I have been having some very meaningful dreams lately as well. I dont know about the first painting you posted being a comet though. 5 stars