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Kid Konjecture? 2016: the year of drones and God returning...

 
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POLL: My feeling on prediction/prophecy etc... is...
 The future is a pre-determined single line and some can access it.
 No - although the future is a pre-determined single line no one has special insight into it..
 The future is not predetermined AT ALL... Predictions are mere good guesses based on observation.
 There are a select few future possibilities and some can access some of those possibilities...
 I believe in alternate timelines - our lives being lived out differently on several planes simultaneasously
 Who the hell cares - I have enough trouble with the present.
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so the weirdest thing happened to me today...

I'm working the overnight shift in the ER and it's very early... I come into to check on a patient who's husband and young child (maybe 4) were there with her since about midnight. Being the last week of the year the beds are stacked with electives and she had to stay overnight while we waited on a bed upstairs. She is very sick.

Unfortunately, I had to wake the patient up to check on her and we were talking but trying to keep quiet. She asked what day it was - or maybe what time - I forget. Anyway, trying to be friendly and light given her situation, I mentioned to her with a smile just one more day until the new year. Her son - who apparently had woken up some but still half asleep - asked when it would be 2016. I laughed and answered not for another whole year and a day...

He answered me back - at this point very alert and serious - "good then there is still time to be happy."

Even given his mom's condition, I thought this was a very strange answer (it was apparent they were trying to keep the details of mom's illness vague with him) so I laughed and asked what he meant. He said "2016 is when the drones come - they will look like birds and bees but they will kill people and light things on fire. After that the Joshua comes back and he will not be happy."

Thinking this kid was just a fantasy/imaginative kid I didn't take him too seriously and was more being amused than concerned. I asked who Joshua was - thinking older brother, uncle etc... The kid said "Joshua is God - I talk to him when I sleep." Then get this - the Mom says to the kid to stop talking about Joshua - explaining to me that Joshua is his imaginary friend. The kid didn't like this - saying that he is a real and true friend. He said that "they can be friends because he will come back before I grow up so Joshua is allowed to talk to me but not my parents." Super crazy - this kid was intense.

The mother got very angry and told him to stop making up stories. She was very shaken and upset by this - her vitals actually confirmed she was definitely disturbed. I answered her to not stress - that we hear lots of stories in the ER and it's just probably something he heard in church or on TV. She said they don't go to church and don't own a TV. They don't have many people outside of the parents who spend much time with the child and he says this kind of thing all the time.

What really seemed to upset her the most is that her son had been telling her for a year - long before she got sick - that Joshua told him that Mommy would be getting sick and that he needed to let Mommy know about God and heaven before it was too late. What's weird is that this talk freaked the mom out enough to have weight loss surgery (she was over 300 pounds this time last year) but she is having serious complications - gravely serious. In just 6 months she has lost well over half her body weight and is severely malnutritioned. I'm not a doctor but I'd be surprised if she makes it.

I checked on her intake form and she marked no religious affiliation - atheist. I did suggest to her we had hospital chaplains available if she wanted to talk to someone or have someone talk to her child but neither parent was interested.

My shift was over soon, but even if it wasn't, it would have been wrong for me to interact more on the matter so I didn't. I did smile warmly and tell the boy we needed to take care of Mommy today and there would be other times we could talk more. The family was friendly and sweet but my heart breaks for them all because life is very tough and about to get tougher. It would appear they don't have a big support system.


THEN THIS IS WHERE THE STORY GETS SUPER WEIRD...

I get home around lunchtime and my hubs and kids are at the kitchen table. I started telling my husband about the weird incident and my 6 year old interrupts before I got the whole story out and asked about the drones. He asked if he was talking about the ones that look like bugs and birds... WHHAAAATTT??? I had not described what the boy said yet. Just said drones. He says he sees them in his dreams all the time and they light things on fire and kill people. He said the world is really dark - like nighttime all the time when they come. He said the military send them but there is also soldiers who rescue people so it's okay. He said the only safe place is in the mountain where the drones crash - that not even the ocean is safe.

I have never heard this from him before. But he also didn't seem to be freaked out by it - more fascinated some other kid seemed to know the same thing.

Now full disclosure - we go to church and as a family we are definitely believers in Christ coming again - but we aren't obsessed with it to the point our young child has any real knowledge of it. I seriously doubt he heard anything like this at church and we keep a pretty tight reign on the TV, at least being there when it's on.

It's just fascinating that two kids from totally different worlds and families are talking about the same dreams. And weirder yet neither seems to be that bothered by it. To me that sounds like a nightmare but my son doesn't have trouble sleeping and has never spoken about it before. He has slenderman nightmares - unfortunately thanks to teenage siblings - :o( and a few unfortunate youtube videos - but not any that are about this...

Anyway, just wondering for those of you who have young kids in your lives, do you ever hear weird things about bird and bee drones?

And of course, just a poll question to make it interesting...

Edit: thread title edited to be more accurate

Last Edited by Bright Side on 12/31/2014 05:18 PM
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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Thanks for the pin - I'm really interested to know if any other people have heard the kids talk about drones being like birds and bees that light stuff of fire or kill people.
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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That's a cool story. I wonder if there is some kid show with a Joshua in it and bee drones. It sounds very Transformers to me.

It's possible they saw the same cartoon.

It's also possible they saw it all in dreams.

Who knows?

As for prophecy...well, I believe that there are multiple universes with multiple possibilities so just about every prophecy is correct. It just happens in a different universe if not in ours.
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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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wow..bump
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well..... [link to www.geek.com]
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that's fascinating but doesn't look a bird to me...

the part about the drones killing people and setting things on fire definitely is the most interesting part...

does anyone know if there are any nano sized drones that resemble bugs or bees?
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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This is an absolutely fascinating post.

Here's something else to add to the intrigue:

"Yeshua was a common alternative form of the name "Yehoshuah" or "Joshua" in later books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period. The name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

So, again, "Jesus" is an alternative form of the name "Joshua."

If you speak to the child again, please ask him how does "Joshua" look like.
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No one has special knowledge of The Coming except what is in scripture , we are close but God's time is not our kind of time , but some will have dreams and given knowledge of doom abduct

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Here's a better explanation of "Jesus" and "Joshua"

"Yeshua is the Hebrew name for the Lord. It means "Yahweh [the Lord] is Salvation." The English spelling of Yeshua is “Joshua.” However, when translated from Hebrew into the Greek language, the name Yeshua becomes Iesous. The English spelling for Iesous is “Jesus.”

Basically, what this means is Joshua and Jesus are the same name. One is translated from Hebrew into English, the other from Greek into English."

[link to christianity.about.com]
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WOW I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID I HAD A SIMILAR DREAM MORE THEN ONCE...I WAS CONSTANTLY RUNNING IN A WORLD THAT HAD GONE DARK BUT THE SKYS LIT UP WITH FIRE AND AND THINGS THAT FLEW AND WOULD LIGHT THINGS ON FIRE...I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A SILLY NIGHTMARE BUT IT WAS A DREAM THAT I KEPT HAVING.
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You would do well to listen to the young ones. God is active. He does speak to people. Thing is, most don't believe God has spoken to someone, mainly because God has not spoken to them. Understand, grave things are coming. You shall have no fear, for God is there. If you truly believe in Jesus, cling to Him. He IS coming and very soon. The thing is, many will die come 2016. I have known for some time that I will die in 2016. When in 2016 I'm not sure. Look into prophecy. It is a thing of God to conceal something, it is a matter of kings to search it out. It is there, the answers you seek, though, be warned, it is a deep hole that even I do not see the depth of.

Look into the shemitah year, the jubilee, and the signs(like the blood moons). This is an unprecedented time in history. We will witness the great tribulation unfold before our eyes. Many will die, many will go home(with Jesus) through death. I believe God had spoken to me, 14 years ago. I believe it more now than I did then. Trust your instinct and do not worry. I do not believe in the rapture as it has been taught, for if you read the book of Revelation of John, it states that the harvest was reaped, that they would be martyred for their faith. I do believe this is true, I have seen it. Remember, keep your faith in Him and the Father and never waver, for there is salvation in trusting Jesus and defending His name. Remember that the world hated Him first.

This is the great test that is coming, we all will be tested and persecuted. Just know this, Jesus is the way and the truth, believe in Him for He is the Son of the one true God.

I believe your son and the boy from the hospital. One question though, what state are you in? I'm guessing either east or west coast. I am in Texas.
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[link to watarts.uwaterloo.ca]

Interesting to observe how a toddler perceives space/time, if you consider their mind as 'most recently' having departed the state of timelessness that precedes mortality it might give some insight as to why a 2 year old will repeatedly try to sit in a toy car, obviously too small to fit in.
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you should listen to your children
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Fascinating post OP! I believe what he saw are the locusts of revelation. Jesus sure is returning SOON!!!!
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It's not meant for Adults.
Delete it.

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The future is known.

Ants will run around free to do whatever ants are able to do.

Then when enough ants ask the landowner to be saved from the exterminator, time is up and the ants that asked to be saved and turned from their ant'y ways, the landowner collects them up, and the exterminator terminates the rest.
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that's fascinating but doesn't look a bird to me...

the part about the drones killing people and setting things on fire definitely is the most interesting part...

does anyone know if there are any nano sized drones that resemble bugs or bees?
 Quoting: Bright Side




My son got a very small one for Christmas. It's about the size of a sparrow. Doesn't look like one, though. It's remote operated, creepy little thing.
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whole story smells of bullshit and AT BEST his mother wont last until 2016.
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WOW I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID I HAD A SIMILAR DREAM MORE THEN ONCE...I WAS CONSTANTLY RUNNING IN A WORLD THAT HAD GONE DARK BUT THE SKYS LIT UP WITH FIRE AND AND THINGS THAT FLEW AND WOULD LIGHT THINGS ON FIRE...I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A SILLY NIGHTMARE BUT IT WAS A DREAM THAT I KEPT HAVING.
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How many years since?
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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You would do well to listen to the young ones. God is active. He does speak to people. Thing is, most don't believe God has spoken to someone, mainly because God has not spoken to them. Understand, grave things are coming. You shall have no fear, for God is there. If you truly believe in Jesus, cling to Him. He IS coming and very soon. The thing is, many will die come 2016. I have known for some time that I will die in 2016. When in 2016 I'm not sure. Look into prophecy. It is a thing of God to conceal something, it is a matter of kings to search it out. It is there, the answers you seek, though, be warned, it is a deep hole that even I do not see the depth of.

Look into the shemitah year, the jubilee, and the signs(like the blood moons). This is an unprecedented time in history. We will witness the great tribulation unfold before our eyes. Many will die, many will go home(with Jesus) through death. I believe God had spoken to me, 14 years ago. I believe it more now than I did then. Trust your instinct and do not worry. I do not believe in the rapture as it has been taught, for if you read the book of Revelation of John, it states that the harvest was reaped, that they would be martyred for their faith. I do believe this is true, I have seen it. Remember, keep your faith in Him and the Father and never waver, for there is salvation in trusting Jesus and defending His name. Remember that the world hated Him first.

This is the great test that is coming, we all will be tested and persecuted. Just know this, Jesus is the way and the truth, believe in Him for He is the Son of the one true God.

I believe your son and the boy from the hospital. One question though, what state are you in? I'm guessing either east or west coast. I am in Texas.
 Quoting: Firastorm 57902168


I am in North Texas. This happened in a DFW area hospital...
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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It is a fascinating story. Perhaps there is a being or beings in Heaven who speak on the Messiah's behalf.
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whole story smells of bullshit and AT BEST his mother wont last until 2016.
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Nope, no BS. It's not freaking me out - i find it more fascinating and weird. Neither kid was freaked out either. Just plainly serious but not gravely serious.

Personally I believe you are correct about the mom. She is very bad off. She looks bones in a bag skin. Not like cancer but like concentration camp pictures. She is physically weak but mentally there. It was very, very sad. She did not seem to get comfort at all about her son believing these things which I found strange cuz as a nurse I very seldom see people carry their atheism so close to the final chapter - usually even the best of them start wishing for more or are truly distraught at the end.

Watching people die is what made me a believer. Very different depending on the person's belief systems.

But I didn't start the thread to necessarily be about faith - I'm fascinated about the similarities and wondering if anyone else like the poster above has a similar experience.
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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The story aside..

When drones become small enough and deadly enough that humans are no longer required to make war; it will be a dark and terrifying time worthy of biblical prophecy.

2016 seems a bit to soon for that though.
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bump for interest.
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Insect drones are already here but if they are being used yet - I don't know!

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Heaps more videos at the youtube link. hf
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Out of the mouths of babes. We would do well to listen to the children.
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bump
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The "locusts" of Revelation?

9 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

7 The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8 They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9 And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. 10 They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past. Behold, still two more woes are coming after these things.
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The "locusts" of Revelation?

9 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

7 The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8 They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9 And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. 10 They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past. Behold, still two more woes are coming after these things.
 Quoting: BamaGirl73


I was thinking the same, only the kid says the drones kill people and set things on fire, where as we know it says the locusts in revelations are not permitted to kill people, only torment them for a time.

If this is true, i.e. The kids really did say this it is intriguing and easily one of the best threads of GLP for a while, for me at least.

Also I was watching the TV yesterday and saw some of the movie "The last mimsy". Bells were a ringin' I must say.

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Strangely enough many years ago about five actually, im 45, - I saw a vision where an aeroplane dropped like one million match box sized drones that had heat seeking capabilities and one bullet. Some were also disease spreaders firing a dart.

How weird OP your story is...!

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Insect drones developed at Harvard University:

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