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Am I too noisy?
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No. I am just very sad.


xx
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I am sorry. is there anything I can do?
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Stop people from doing all this stuff - its very hard knowing planes are being brought out of the sky for political reasons and harming the innocent who are nothing to do with it all.


xx
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It is very sad. :(
It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed.
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No. I am just very sad.


xx
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I am sorry. is there anything I can do?
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Stop people from doing all this stuff - its very hard knowing planes are being brought out of the sky for political reasons and harming the innocent who are nothing to do with it all.


xx
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I would stop them if I had super powers but I have not reached that point yet in my development.
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Maybe somebody can - this intel is written by someone very familiar both with Hebrew numerics and also with understanding of ancient texts - and is highly intelligent. The release of this info can be seen in two ways: release of info plus plan - release of info to prevent the planning of others. MOSSAD are everywhere and the 2 cleverest intel services I reckon are MOSSAD and Russian - whatever they call themselves these days. It is hard to know what will happen next - we are on the edge of crazy here.

1 hour 43 is 103 - this number appears 4 times in the number grid - so when decrypting it is hard to know when a number is a number or a word.

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No. I am just very sad.


xx
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I am sorry. is there anything I can do?
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Stop people from doing all this stuff - its very hard knowing planes are being brought out of the sky for political reasons and harming the innocent who are nothing to do with it all.


xx
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It is very sad. :(
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All the people around the world who prayed and hoped and joined the search and wished... while liars lied.


xx
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Line 2

305 57 91 73 103 1655 96 037/5300 6 66 4400 91 9 777 1 57 106 107 297 27 037 47526


there is only one anomalous reading which might indicate the plane ascended to quite a height at 2.25.34 which is 1 hour 43 mins after take off – the reading is 51700
(the number 517 appears in the number grid on lines 11 12 and 16)

which would mean it plummeted landing in the sea at 2.27.03 – a time period of 1 minute 29 seconds

The identifying number of the plane/ black box is 305 the flight time is 103 minutes not including the fall

The number 37 appears twice on this line – date?
The number 57 appears twice mourning/ one who sorrows
The number 91 appears twice (a descriptive term for Haman– enemy of the jews – see esther)

305 oh would that/ oh wish 579 have opportune to encounter 17 oh sorrow 3 new 103 to gather 1655 bodies violated (as in yielded up see note 1 below from fire or water drenched)/96 a drop 037 march 7th?/5300(family of returned exiles – opposite?)6 perish 66 plain of water/ plane of water (and all the store) 4400 a message commission 919 damages 777 17 desire 7 to perish 1061 the fruits of the harvest 106 fist strike with 07 to perish 297 afraid as in do not be 270 to grasp take hold/reap/take possession 374 a measure 7 to perish 526 a master workman – amon

( 7526 retzin king of syria who is slain (to feed fatten my father is joy) (752 long/6 perish eunuchs of the father ?) (157 to love)

Note 1

Daniel 3:27

NAS: effect on the bodies of these men nor
KJV: men, upon whose bodies the fire
INT: had the fire the bodies was the hair of their head

Daniel 3:28

NAS: and yielded up their bodies so
KJV: and yielded their bodies, that they might not
INT: violating and yielded body who not

Daniel 4:33

NAS: like cattle, and his body was drenched
KJV: as oxen, and his body was wet
INT: the dew of heaven and his body was drenched till


I just need to check at some point if what the number grid is querying is this one anomalous number – because aside from this, it could be presumed that the plane was grounded as per… cancel SID – cancel departure – will keep looking.


xx

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Line 2

305 57 91 73 103 1655 96 037/5300 6 66 4400 91 9 777 1 57 106 107 297 27 037 47526


there is only one anomalous reading which might indicate the plane ascended to quite a height at 2.25.34 which is 1 hour 43 mins after take off – the reading is 51700
(the number 517 appears in the number grid on lines 11 12 and 16)

which would mean it plummeted landing in the sea at 2.27.03 – a time period of 1 minute 29 seconds

The identifying number of the plane/ black box is 305 the flight time is 103 minutes not including the fall

The number 37 appears twice on this line – date?
The number 57 appears twice mourning/ one who sorrows
The number 91 appears twice (a descriptive term for Haman– enemy of the jews – see esther)

305 oh would that/ oh wish 579 have opportune to encounter 17 oh sorrow 3 new 103 to gather 1655 bodies violated (as in yielded up see note 1 below from fire or water drenched)/96 a drop 037 march 7th?/5300(family of returned exiles – opposite?)6 perish 66 plain of water/ plane of water (and all the store) 4400 a message commission 919 damages 777 17 desire 7 to perish 1061 the fruits of the harvest 106 fist strike with 07 to perish 297 afraid as in do not be 270 to grasp take hold/reap/take possession 374 a measure 7 to perish 526 a master workman – amon

( 7526 retzin king of syria who is slain (to feed fatten my father is joy) (752 long/6 perish eunuchs of the father ?) (157 to love)

Note 1

Daniel 3:27

NAS: effect on the bodies of these men nor
KJV: men, upon whose bodies the fire
INT: had the fire the bodies was the hair of their head

Daniel 3:28

NAS: and yielded up their bodies so
KJV: and yielded their bodies, that they might not
INT: violating and yielded body who not

Daniel 4:33

NAS: like cattle, and his body was drenched
KJV: as oxen, and his body was wet
INT: the dew of heaven and his body was drenched till


I just need to check at some point if what the number grid is querying is this one anomalous number – because aside from this, it could be presumed that the plane was grounded as per… cancel SID – cancel departure – will keep looking.


xx
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If it is to be presumed that this anomaly is correct - that after disappearing from radar etc the plane makes an anomalous re-appearance then so too must the final handshake be accommodated:

It is listed as happening at:

00.19.37

which would be 8.19.37 Malaysia time - so about 7 hours 40 mins roughly after take off - when we get a reading of 49660 - indicating that the black box has re-launched - or that there are inexplicable anomalies.


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Line 2

305 57 91 73 103 1655 96 037/5300 6 66 4400 91 9 777 1 57 106 107 297 27 037 47526


there is only one anomalous reading which might indicate the plane ascended to quite a height at 2.25.34 which is 1 hour 43 mins after take off – the reading is 51700
(the number 517 appears in the number grid on lines 11 12 and 16)

which would mean it plummeted landing in the sea at 2.27.03 – a time period of 1 minute 29 seconds

The identifying number of the plane/ black box is 305 the flight time is 103 minutes not including the fall

The number 37 appears twice on this line – date?
The number 57 appears twice mourning/ one who sorrows
The number 91 appears twice (a descriptive term for Haman– enemy of the jews – see esther)

305 oh would that/ oh wish 579 have opportune to encounter 17 oh sorrow 3 new 103 to gather 1655 bodies violated (as in yielded up see note 1 below from fire or water drenched)/96 a drop 037 march 7th?/5300(family of returned exiles – opposite?)6 perish 66 plain of water/ plane of water (and all the store) 4400 a message commission 919 damages 777 17 desire 7 to perish 1061 the fruits of the harvest 106 fist strike with 07 to perish 297 afraid as in do not be 270 to grasp take hold/reap/take possession 374 a measure 7 to perish 526 a master workman – amon

( 7526 retzin king of syria who is slain (to feed fatten my father is joy) (752 long/6 perish eunuchs of the father ?) (157 to love)

Note 1

Daniel 3:27

NAS: effect on the bodies of these men nor
KJV: men, upon whose bodies the fire
INT: had the fire the bodies was the hair of their head

Daniel 3:28

NAS: and yielded up their bodies so
KJV: and yielded their bodies, that they might not
INT: violating and yielded body who not

Daniel 4:33

NAS: like cattle, and his body was drenched
KJV: as oxen, and his body was wet
INT: the dew of heaven and his body was drenched till


I just need to check at some point if what the number grid is querying is this one anomalous number – because aside from this, it could be presumed that the plane was grounded as per… cancel SID – cancel departure – will keep looking.


xx
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If it is to be presumed that this anomaly is correct - that after disappearing from radar etc the plane makes an anomalous re-appearance then so too must the final handshake be accommodated:

It is listed as happening at:

00.19.37

which would be 8.19.37 Malaysia time - so about 7 hours 40 mins roughly after take off - when we get a reading of 49660 - indicating that the black box has re-launched - or that there are inexplicable anomalies.


??
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305 oh would that/ oh wish / identifying number of MH370 black box 579 have opportune to encounter 173 Oholibamah/ tent of the height 103 to gather 1655 bodies violated (as in yielded up see note 1 below from fire or water drenched)/96 a drop 037 march 7th?/5300(family of returned exiles – opposite?)6 perish 66 plain of water/ plane of water (and all the store) 4400 a message commission 919 damages 777 177 will of God/ return/ water carrier 1061 the fruits of the harvest 106 fist strike with 07 to perish 297 afraid as in do not be 270 to grasp take hold/reap/take possession 374 a measure 7 to perish 526 a master workman – amon
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Line 2

305 57 91 73 103 1655 96 037/5300 6 66 4400 91 9 777 1 57 106 107 297 27 037 47526


there is only one anomalous reading which might indicate the plane ascended to quite a height at 2.25.34 which is 1 hour 43 mins after take off – the reading is 51700
(the number 517 appears in the number grid on lines 11 12 and 16)

which would mean it plummeted landing in the sea at 2.27.03 – a time period of 1 minute 29 seconds

The identifying number of the plane/ black box is 305 the flight time is 103 minutes not including the fall

The number 37 appears twice on this line – date?
The number 57 appears twice mourning/ one who sorrows
The number 91 appears twice (a descriptive term for Haman– enemy of the jews – see esther)

305 oh would that/ oh wish 579 have opportune to encounter 17 oh sorrow 3 new 103 to gather 1655 bodies violated (as in yielded up see note 1 below from fire or water drenched)/96 a drop 037 march 7th?/5300(family of returned exiles – opposite?)6 perish 66 plain of water/ plane of water (and all the store) 4400 a message commission 919 damages 777 17 desire 7 to perish 1061 the fruits of the harvest 106 fist strike with 07 to perish 297 afraid as in do not be 270 to grasp take hold/reap/take possession 374 a measure 7 to perish 526 a master workman – amon

( 7526 retzin king of syria who is slain (to feed fatten my father is joy) (752 long/6 perish eunuchs of the father ?) (157 to love)

Note 1

Daniel 3:27

NAS: effect on the bodies of these men nor
KJV: men, upon whose bodies the fire
INT: had the fire the bodies was the hair of their head

Daniel 3:28

NAS: and yielded up their bodies so
KJV: and yielded their bodies, that they might not
INT: violating and yielded body who not

Daniel 4:33

NAS: like cattle, and his body was drenched
KJV: as oxen, and his body was wet
INT: the dew of heaven and his body was drenched till


I just need to check at some point if what the number grid is querying is this one anomalous number – because aside from this, it could be presumed that the plane was grounded as per… cancel SID – cancel departure – will keep looking.


xx
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If it is to be presumed that this anomaly is correct - that after disappearing from radar etc the plane makes an anomalous re-appearance then so too must the final handshake be accommodated:

It is listed as happening at:

00.19.37

which would be 8.19.37 Malaysia time - so about 7 hours 40 mins roughly after take off - when we get a reading of 49660 - indicating that the black box has re-launched - or that there are inexplicable anomalies.


??
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305 oh would that/ oh wish / identifying number of MH370 black box 579 have opportune to encounter 173 Oholibamah/ tent of the height 103 to gather 1655 bodies violated (as in yielded up see note 1 below from fire or water drenched)/96 a drop 037 march 7th?/5300(family of returned exiles – opposite?)6 perish 66 plain of water/ plane of water (and all the store) 4400 a message commission 919 damages 777 177 will of God/ return/ water carrier 1061 the fruits of the harvest 106 fist strike with 07 to perish 297 afraid as in do not be 270 to grasp take hold/reap/take possession 374 a measure 7 to perish 526 a master workman – amon
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Don't forget that 919 can also be 9-19 = a lost thing - slaughter
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what this is saying - about the two anomalies...

when i say the black box was re-launched - i mean that once again it reached high altitude

so either

the plane made a massive ascent - plummeted - then hours later the black box ascended again

or

the plane - a plane with the black box - exceeded the radar jam momentarily - continued, then some hours later was picked up again at high altitude

on the assumption that the Inmarsat data is correct.


xx

what doesn't make sense is that these readings were so momentary - as the sat data delivers in micro-seconds usually with continuous readings all within the same second as it were.


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For example - i don't know how easy it is to remove the black box data recording stuff - and if after MH370 first went off radar over Malaysia- say it landed in a military zone - and the black box was transferred to a fighter jet - which exceeded the height limit and was picked up at 2.25 - then flew back via the radar jam area - went unidentified over Malaysia milit zone - then off up northwest picked up by US at Butterworth - flew on - then got picked up again some hours later - master workman??

I don't know.


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which would explain why first looks at the reading - combining the time/ travel distance and altitude - might have led to McInerney saying plane had reached pak border - in mountains/ at altitude.


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OK - a couple of ways to look at this. This is the first way, bearing in mind I don't know how to read satellite pings and I have no other flight satellite ping data to compare with:

00.40.00 approx – cleared for take off

00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820

00.43.12 14920

00.55.23 15200 26000ft? 448 kts

00.55.38 15220 27000ft? 454 kts

00.55.53 15240 28000ft? 458 kts

00.02.00 approx acars goes off

01.07.48 15620

02.25.27 17120

02.25.34 51700 anomaly indicating a 7 second rapid ascent

02.27.03 12560 indicating a 1.5 minute rapid descent

02.28.14 12480 possibly sea level

03.41.02 11500 possibly sea level

04.41.04 11740 possibly sea level

05.41.26 12780 possibly sea level

06.41.21 14540 indicating approx. 16/20m above sea level

08.10.59 18040 indicating ascent

08.19.29 23000 indicating continued ascent for 8.5 secs

08.19.37 49660 anomaly indicating an 8 second approx. rapid ascent


The numbers above are
time/ burst timing offset ping data/ then comment - a couple of times I have put altitude and knots as an indicator.

This first way would show that the sat ping data indicates altitude and would indicate that the plane suddenly made a rapid ascent 1 hour 43 mins into flight then plummeted - pinged from the sea - then the black box was retrieved from the debris at 6.41am and began a further ascent at some point around 8am which continued until there were no more readings.

I have changed the times all to Malaysia time so it makes sense with the times people already know. Inmarsat use UTC time I think - which would give most times as on the 7th March and not the 8th.

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The second way:

Assuming that the pings before flight take off indicate accurate measurement of plane to or from satellite ping reader then variations would correspond to the plane manoeuvring prior to flight i.e. taxiing – getting to runway etc

00.40.00 approx – cleared for take off

00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820

00.43.12 14920

00.55.23 15200 26000ft? 448 kts

00.55.38 15220 27000ft? 454 kts

00.55.53 15240 28000ft? 458 kts

00.02.00 approx acars goes off

01.07.48 15620

02.25.27 17120

02.25.34 51700 anomaly indicating rapid increase in speed with respect to distance to or from satellite ping reader

02.27.03 12560 indicating a 1.5 second rapid manoeuvre in the opposite direction

02.28.14 12480

03.41.02 11500

04.41.04 11740

05.41.26 12780

06.41.21 14540 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc”

08.10.59 18040 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc”

08.19.29 23000 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc” continued for 8.5 secs

08.19.37 49660 anomaly indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc” at high speed for 8 second approx.


So what I am saying is that there was variation in ping burst results due to horizontal manoeuvres of plane prior to vehicle take-off - hence are the following pings with respect to increased/ decreased distance to or from the satellite arc - and not to do with vertical distance/ ascent/ altitude.

I haven't had time to correlate the figures in the burst results to speed or altitude yet.

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The second way:

Assuming that the pings before flight take off indicate accurate measurement of plane to or from satellite ping reader then variations would correspond to the plane manoeuvring prior to flight i.e. taxiing – getting to runway etc

00.40.00 approx – cleared for take off

00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820

00.43.12 14920

00.55.23 15200 26000ft? 448 kts

00.55.38 15220 27000ft? 454 kts

00.55.53 15240 28000ft? 458 kts

00.02.00 approx acars goes off

01.07.48 15620

02.25.27 17120

02.25.34 51700 anomaly indicating rapid increase in speed with respect to distance to or from satellite ping reader

02.27.03 12560 indicating a 1.5 second rapid manoeuvre in the opposite direction

02.28.14 12480

03.41.02 11500

04.41.04 11740

05.41.26 12780

06.41.21 14540 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc”

08.10.59 18040 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc”

08.19.29 23000 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc” continued for 8.5 secs

08.19.37 49660 anomaly indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc” at high speed for 8 second approx.


So what I am saying is that there was variation in ping burst results due to horizontal manoeuvres of plane prior to vehicle take-off - hence are the following pings with respect to increased/ decreased distance to or from the satellite arc - and not to do with vertical distance/ ascent/ altitude.

I haven't had time to correlate the figures in the burst results to speed or altitude yet.

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OK. So now I will try to show why this second way is feasable - and why reading the pings with respect to altitude gives a false positive that the plane ascended dynamically and plumetted like a crazy thing.


The info tells us that the ping thing at KL airport is 14800/14900 - give or take ok

Now Kuala Lumpur is located 3.1357° N, 101.6880° E


ok


Now check out this little map here:


[link to www.duncansteel.com]

Unfortunately it isn't clearly marked but other such maps are scruffy but i will give you another to compare:

[link to regmedia.co.uk]

ctrl + is your friend.


so you go up the side to zero - then up a little more to 3 and across to hundred plus 1 for 101 - then connect these points and this is Kuala Lumpur

Now the red arcs show you where the last ping could have come from - the last ping had a reading 49660

so we are saying 14800/ 14900 is Kuala Lumpur

and

the red arc is 49660

so that tells us that as we move from Kuala Lumpur to the red arc - towards it - we get bigger ping burst results

so after 1 hour 43 mins we get the high number of ping burst 51700 - does this mean altitude then drop? No - not in this context - it simply means that the plane exceeded the 49660 boundary indicated by the red arc - which cuts around the 40 degrees on the pics.

So... could a plane travel that far in 1 hour 43?

Yes - look at Ho Chi Minh for an obvious example - it is easy for the plane to get there in this time - and thus giving the ping reading 51700.

In fact if it stepped on the gas it could have made it across the chinese border over Laos way.

Ho Chi Minh 10.7500° N, 106.6667° E

Northern Laos - 22N 102 E

So then the reading plummets to 12560 - implying a reading east of origin in Kuala Lumpur

for example here:

Mengla, Xishuangbanna, Yunnan
China
21.955459, 101.400375



[link to www.google.co.uk (secure)]


Could a passenger jet do this?

well - to travel across 1 degree is about 60 miles - and the plane can EASY do 120 miles in aminute - so in half a minute 60 and in 15 seconds 30miles

compare KL

Now Kuala Lumpur is located 3.1357° N, 101.6880° E

with

Mengla, Xishuangbanna, Yunnan China 21.955459N 101.400375 E


and we have less than a degree of difference
101.68 - 101.40 = 00.28 - which is about a third of a degree which is 20 miles (under) - can a passenger jet travel 20 miles in 7 or 8 seconds? - EASY.


The plane did not ascend faster than a jet and plummet - it is a matter of reading the data. The plane continued on - under cover of some sort of radar jam.

By cross referencing the points and times - I reckon you could have a good guess where it went - even though the data is minimal. xx

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The second way:

Assuming that the pings before flight take off indicate accurate measurement of plane to or from satellite ping reader then variations would correspond to the plane manoeuvring prior to flight i.e. taxiing – getting to runway etc

00.40.00 approx – cleared for take off

00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820

00.43.12 14920

00.55.23 15200 26000ft? 448 kts

00.55.38 15220 27000ft? 454 kts

00.55.53 15240 28000ft? 458 kts

00.02.00 approx acars goes off

01.07.48 15620

02.25.27 17120

02.25.34 51700 anomaly indicating rapid increase in speed with respect to distance to or from satellite ping reader

02.27.03 12560 indicating a 1.5 second rapid manoeuvre in the opposite direction

02.28.14 12480

03.41.02 11500

04.41.04 11740

05.41.26 12780

06.41.21 14540 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc”

08.10.59 18040 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc”

08.19.29 23000 indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc” continued for 8.5 secs

08.19.37 49660 anomaly indicating a bearing with respect to the satellite “arc” at high speed for 8 second approx.


So what I am saying is that there was variation in ping burst results due to horizontal manoeuvres of plane prior to vehicle take-off - hence are the following pings with respect to increased/ decreased distance to or from the satellite arc - and not to do with vertical distance/ ascent/ altitude.

I haven't had time to correlate the figures in the burst results to speed or altitude yet.

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OK. So now I will try to show why this second way is feasable - and why reading the pings with respect to altitude gives a false positive that the plane ascended dynamically and plumetted like a crazy thing.


The info tells us that the ping thing at KL airport is 14800/14900 - give or take ok

Now Kuala Lumpur is located 3.1357° N, 101.6880° E


ok


Now check out this little map here:


[link to www.duncansteel.com]

Unfortunately it isn't clearly marked but other such maps are scruffy but i will give you another to compare:

[link to regmedia.co.uk]

ctrl + is your friend.


so you go up the side to zero - then up a little more to 3 and across to hundred plus 1 for 101 - then connect these points and this is Kuala Lumpur

Now the red arcs show you where the last ping could have come from - the last ping had a reading 49660

so we are saying 14800/ 14900 is Kuala Lumpur

and

the red arc is 49660

so that tells us that as we move from Kuala Lumpur to the red arc - towards it - we get bigger ping burst results

so after 1 hour 43 mins we get the high number of ping burst 51700 - does this mean altitude then drop? No - not in this context - it simply means that the plane exceeded the 49660 boundary indicated by the red arc - which cuts around the 40 degrees on the pics.

So... could a plane travel that far in 1 hour 43?

Yes - look at Ho Chi Minh for an obvious example - it is easy for the plane to get there in this time - and thus giving the ping reading 51700.

In fact if it stepped on the gas it could have made it across the chinese border over Laos way.

Ho Chi Minh 10.7500° N, 106.6667° E

Northern Laos - 22N 102 E

So then the reading plummets to 12560 - implying a reading east of origin in Kuala Lumpur

for example here:

Mengla, Xishuangbanna, Yunnan
China
21.955459, 101.400375



[link to www.google.co.uk (secure)]


Could a passenger jet do this?

well - to travel across 1 degree is about 60 miles - and the plane can EASY do 120 miles in aminute - so in half a minute 60 and in 15 seconds 30miles

compare KL

Now Kuala Lumpur is located 3.1357° N, 101.6880° E

with

Mengla, Xishuangbanna, Yunnan China 21.955459N 101.400375 E


and we have less than a degree of difference
101.68 - 101.40 = 00.28 - which is about a third of a degree which is 20 miles (under) - can a passenger jet travel 20 miles in 7 or 8 seconds? - EASY.


The plane did not ascend faster than a jet and plummet - it is a matter of reading the data. The plane continued on - under cover of some sort of radar jam.

By cross referencing the points and times - I reckon you could have a good guess where it went - even though the data is minimal. xx
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This link helps to explain:

[link to geography.about.com]


It shows how there would only be a distance of 53 miles between the difference in satellite ping bursts between readings of 12000 and 15700 for example - and how this is not altitude; I don't think a plane could drop like that from 40 odd thousand feet to the sea in 1.5 seconds.


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OK - a couple of ways to look at this. This is the first way, bearing in mind I don't know how to read satellite pings and I have no other flight satellite ping data to compare with:

00.40.00 approx – cleared for take off

00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820

00.43.12 14920

00.55.23 15200 26000ft? 448 kts

00.55.38 15220 27000ft? 454 kts

00.55.53 15240 28000ft? 458 kts

00.02.00 approx acars goes off

01.07.48 15620

02.25.27 17120

02.25.34 51700 anomaly indicating a 7 second rapid ascent

02.27.03 12560 indicating a 1.5 second rapid descent

02.28.14 12480 possibly sea level

03.41.02 11500 possibly sea level

04.41.04 11740 possibly sea level

05.41.26 12780 possibly sea level

06.41.21 14540 indicating approx. 16/20m above sea level

08.10.59 18040 indicating ascent

08.19.29 23000 indicating continued ascent for 8.5 secs

08.19.37 49660 anomaly indicating an 8 second approx. rapid ascent


The numbers above are
time/ burst timing offset ping data/ then comment - a couple of times I have put altitude and knots as an indicator.

This first way would show that the sat ping data indicates altitude and would indicate that the plane suddenly made a rapid ascent 1 hour 43 mins into flight then plummeted - pinged from the sea - then the black box was retrieved from the debris at 6.41am and began a further ascent at some point around 8am which continued until there were no more readings.

I have changed the times all to Malaysia time so it makes sense with the times people already know. Inmarsat use UTC time I think - which would give most times as on the 7th March and not the 8th.

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I am an idiot - this is:

02.25.34 51700 anomaly indicating a 7 second rapid ascent

02.27.03 12560 indicating a 1.5 minute rapid descent; 1 minute and 27 seconds



I am honestly not brainy enough to know if you can cross reference satellite ping longitude latitude references like this - I am thinking maybe not - that KL is on an arc - and maybe that has to always correspond to the coordinates that KL does - in which case - the plane could not travel those distances - and hence we have to ask again.. is what is being considered - altitude?

As I cannot make the figures work for distance covered as per the data - not even by a supersonic jet - then it means the plane went down and the black box was retrieved hours later.

I cannot rationalise figures like the following with respect to distance:


06.41.21 14540 if 14800/14900 is between 21.95 and 56m above sea level depending on your source - then this is lower but not sea level

08.10.59 18040 ascending

08.19.29 23000 ascending

08.19.37 49660 ascending


I think the thing confusing me is the Inmarsat arc - because if these figures in the data cannot apply to distance but apply to altitude - then how can they refer to the arc????


This is my confusion - if anyone can help.


xx

If KL is on an arc 5 degrees away from the Inmarsat arc - and if KL is 14800 and the arc is 49660 for the inmarsat one - then nothing can travel the distance - say you call each degree 60 - or let's say even 50 to be generous - then 5 degrees = 250 miles and so the 18040 figure above is 32/35 of the distance

250/35 = 7.14 x 32 = 228.57 miles - you can't do it in 8 seconds - you just can't.

Unless the pings aren't graded in a uniform way. Or say for example the ping bursts are altitude times distance??

For now I have to err on the side that the plane went down.

Altitude times distance.

Where did they get the arc from??????


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By the way i have only extracted the R-Channel data - as it is consistent with/ uniform with/ constant with data from other channels -
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You see - if they can pin the 49660 last ping to a defined distance - then so too the opening pings when the engine is turned on must also be a defined distance i.e all the pings on the runway and to the take off place are around 14800/14900 - so this must indicate the previous arc to the Inmarsat arc - but nothing can travel these distances in these times - maybe Superman can.


So the distance concept does not work. The altitude concept works now that I have realised it was i.5 mins not 1.5 seconds - but even then - the distance must be guessed on the arc.

So the arc cannot be true. Not if the pings indicate distance as suggested - this cannot be true.

So why did they make up the story about the ark? I mean arc?

Even if MH370 landed with the acars off and another plane took over with its flightpath/ tail number - the sat pings cannot imply distance as they cannot imply the impossible.

So the acars info is either incorrect - like somebody copied it out wrong or the R-Channel only implies altitude and the plane went down then the black box got picked up and taken. And then they made up the arc.

So you get what I mean?

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Even an X-15 can't go that fast

[link to www.livescience.com]


It can go at Mach 6.72, which is 6.72 times the speed of sound, or 4,520 mph (7,274 km/h).

That is 75.3333 miles per minute

=10.67 miles in 8.5 seconds - nowhere near what the data suggests.

Hence: R-channel - altitude.


Maybe I should go see if there are any figures i can cross reference to see how they got that arc.


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You could not make it up.

Oh. I'm sorry.


Yes you could.


[link to www.slate.com]

And check out the graph.


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Not even the Marvin Dorffler anomaly can account for that lot of wotsit – for example a 20 mph Marvin effect – is a total of 240 miles over 8 hours maximum – and less if swinging in both directions with the sat thing – get over it.

Now – I want to look at distance again as opposed to altitude, just to be sure. Before I do so I would like to say that it is a possibility that those world maps with the arcs aren’t especially accurate – but we will still use them for the gist of things.


00.40.00 approx – cleared for take off

00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820 KL airport

00.43.12 14920 KL airport

00.55.23 15200 26000ft? 448 kts 12 mins in heading right from KL airport arc

00.55.38 15220 27000ft? 454 kts 12 mins in heading right from KL airport arc

00.55.53 15240 28000ft? 458 kts 12/13 mins in approx. heading right from KL airport

00.02.00 approx acars goes off 19 mins into flight

01.07.48 15620 26 mins in heading right from KL airport

02.25.27 17120 this is one hour seventeen minutes and 39 secs later ( 1/17/39) to the right but heading unknown

02.25.34 51700 1 hour 43 mins in (let’s count this as an anomaly – see below)

02.27.03 12560 1 hour 45 mins in heading left of KL airport arc

02.28.14 12480 1 hours 46 mins in heading left of KL airport arc

02.39.55 C channel 88 89 88 90 89 87 89 88 88 87 88 87 88 87 87 87 86 86 89 89 89 89 89 88 88 88 89 88 88 89 89 88 89 88 87 87 87 87 86 87 86 86 86 90 90

02.40.56 C channel 90 90 86 86 87 86

03.41.02 11500 3 hours in heading further left of KL airport arc

04.41.04 11740 4 hours in heading further left of KL airport arc

05.41.26 12780 5 hours in heading still left of KL airport arc

06.41.21 14540 6 hours in coming closer to the KL airport arc

07.14.00 C channel 217 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 217 216 216 216 216 216 220 218 222 220 218

07.15.02 C channel 219 218 217 219 219 217

08.10.59 18040 this is one hour 29 mins and 38 secs after last reading ( 1/29/38) 7.5 hours in – to the right of KL airport arc

08.19.29 23000 this is 7 hours 40 mins in approx. to the right of KL airport arc – heading towards Inmarsat arc

08.19.37 49660 again 8 hours 40 mins approx. final ping on the Inmarsat arc



I need to make a number of points: when I say to the left or right of the arc – this doesn’t mean directly left or right at 90 degrees – it means following the line of the arc to the left or right of it.

I have for one moment taken the one reading 51700 as an anomaly: either you can see it that someone at Inmarsat was tired and copied the number down wrong – it could have been 15700 for example which would have fitted right in.

The other way to look at it is that it happens after the plane has been invisible for 1 hour and 17 minutes – so we can ask: did MH370 land and did another plane assume its ID and fly to the right of the Inmarsat arc – to indicate that MH370 had arrived there as it was supposed to – but in fact a bogus plane was shot down in a pretence of it being MH370 then the jet flew back to base while MH370 had taken off in the other direction – perhaps pretending to be MH6 going to Frankfurt for example. This does not mean it went to Frankfurt though, of course. This would explain the unidentified plane coming in – and the unidentified plane going out over Penang to the North West – not sure if this was ever formally identified as MH370 or not.

Next – I want to explain that if the plane is not heard from for an hour then a ping is sent for it to respond to – this happens as above as you can see with the readings – when it does not happen it because C-Channel has been communicating and so this is acknowledged and the checking in ping does not need to be sent.

I will try to explain how I have written the C channel pings:

02.39.55 C channel 88 89 88 90 89 87 89 88 88 87 88 87 88 87 87 87 86 86 89 89 89 89 89 88 88 88 89 88 88 89 89 88 89 88 87 87 87 87 86 87 86 86 86 90 90

02.40.56 C channel 90 90 86 86 87 86

07.14.00 C channel 217 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 216 217 216 216 216 216 216 220 218 222 220 218

07.15.02 C channel 219 218 217 219 219 217


These are not listed like this on the sat data.

The sat data does not just have hours/ mins/ secs – it also has tiny bits of seconds to 3 decimal points – fractions of seconds – so there were lots of listings indicating that C-channel was making many many requests – each 3 digit number is a request on the C channel – so for example at 02.39.55 there were 45 requests made from the plane on that channel.

I was wondering if the C channel is like a Call Channel for making phone calls – because on the sat data next to these requests it says: Telephony acknowledge. Call progress channel release. Telephony acknowledge. Crying what it brings to mind.

02.39.55 was 1 hours and 57 minutes into the flight – call it 2 hours. But 1 hour 17 was off radar and off acars. This means that after the aircraft officially disappeared – many telephony events occurred or attempted to occur:

This data just prior

02.27.03 12560 1 hour 45 mins in heading left of KL airport arc

02.28.14 12480 1 hours 46 mins in heading left of KL airport arc

Indicates either that the plane continues to move along the left side of the KL arc – or that it is taking off again

At 7.14 – 6 and a half hours after proposed take off – telephony acknowledge is busy again.

The hours between the telephony acknowledge attempts may well have been over radar jammed areas – there are many – but certainly it appears people or persons kept trying and trying to call and sometimes these attempts burst through. Pages 43/44/46

Again, with this idea as a proposal – it has to be said again also that the final ping is somewhat anomalous – it doesn’t fit; the time isn’t enough – but maybe it was a final catch up ping – I don’t know.


This is a way to explain the arc being used with reference to distance and not to altitude.


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this article has some good pics

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]


the top pic here

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]


shows the pings as distance measurements - pretty much how i was saying in last post - except the 8.11 one is anomylous in that there wasn't enough time to get there as per the time of the ping.


the second picture down here

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

It tells you that in the space of 1 hour 34 mins MH370 goes from point to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6

I don't think MH370 made it as far as point 2 on that pic.
At 12.26 MH6 was cleared for take-off to Frankfurt and would have started on a heading up the East coast of Malaysia.

15 minutes later MH370 was cleared for take off and told to cancel SID - to cancel its established flightpath - she flew on for 19/21 mins then went off acars and probably turned and flew to Penang or Langkawi whatever - while MH6 changed her tail number and as instructed turned right for IGARI where she registered on the radar - where something was shot out of the sky - and which when found the next day and tugged away was discovered by the Chinese - who were now short of their cargo - not to be MH370 - which had been diverted - so China released dodgy debris satellite pics - saying: dodgy debris dudes - which people noticed were dumb and so they apologised - however the message had been sent to say - we know that wasn't MH370.

So MH370 bearing a different number heads off towards the Bay of Bengal to the destination it has been told to go to prior to the dodginess.

Butterfield admit an anomaly on the radar may have been MH370 going off with a rogue pilot - thereby blaming Malaysia for the hoisting of the cargo/ passengers. Thai radar also says they picked something up - so it is a bit out in the open.

Then everything else follows and makes sense - except for the last ping - and what happened to the plane.

Along with the last ping came more info - including that MH370 had loads of fuel left still - as though she had been loaded up to go to Europe for example. A lot of reports said she would have been out of fuel - but apparently not so.


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this article has some good pics

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]


the top pic here

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]


shows the pings as distance measurements - pretty much how i was saying in last post - except the 8.11 one is anomylous in that there wasn't enough time to get there as per the time of the ping.


the second picture down here

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

It tells you that in the space of 1 hour 34 mins MH370 goes from point to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6

I don't think MH370 made it as far as point 2 on that pic.
At 12.26 MH6 was cleared for take-off to Frankfurt and would have started on a heading up the East coast of Malaysia.

15 minutes later MH370 was cleared for take off and told to cancel SID - to cancel its established flightpath - she flew on for 19/21 mins then went off acars and probably turned and flew to Penang or Langkawi whatever - while MH6 changed her tail number and as instructed turned right for IGARI where she registered on the radar - where something was shot out of the sky - and which when found the next day and tugged away was discovered by the Chinese - who were now short of their cargo - not to be MH370 - which had been diverted - so China released dodgy debris satellite pics - saying: dodgy debris dudes - which people noticed were dumb and so they apologised - however the message had been sent to say - we know that wasn't MH370.

So MH370 bearing a different number heads off towards the Bay of Bengal to the destination it has been told to go to prior to the dodginess.

Butterfield admit an anomaly on the radar may have been MH370 going off with a rogue pilot - thereby blaming Malaysia for the hoisting of the cargo/ passengers. Thai radar also says they picked something up - so it is a bit out in the open.

Then everything else follows and makes sense - except for the last ping - and what happened to the plane.

Along with the last ping came more info - including that MH370 had loads of fuel left still - as though she had been loaded up to go to Europe for example. A lot of reports said she would have been out of fuel - but apparently not so.


xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel



[link to en.wikipedia.org]


The aircraft's final automated position report and last message using the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) protocol was sent at 01:07;[31]:2[32][33]:36 among the data provided in the message was total fuel remaining—43,800 kg (96,600 lb).[34]:9 The final verbal contact with air traffic control occurred at 01:19, when one of the aircraft's pilots acknowledged a send-off by Lumpur Radar to Ho Chi Minh ACC


Oops my bad - thought that was at final ping but still interesting - started with 49100 = 5300 used including take off - very economical.

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I am sure if she needed fuel her hosts employing her could have found some more anyway.

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Regarding that final 49660 ping - there is a double anomaly and i haven't a clue what it means.

this data comes in pairs - pairs of data - one number being the Burst Frequency Offset in hz BFO and the other being the Burst Timing Offset measured in microseconds BTO - like this:


BFO BTO

252 18040


182 23000


-2 49660


Minus 2 -2

it only appears as a minus here in this final reading - I have no idea what that means.


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Ok I have drawn you a proper scientific explanational map


[link to imgur.com]


the black outline, as you can see, is Malaysia.


The purple line is where MH370 went

The blue line is where MH6 went including tail code change


Nowwwww you get me?


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Ok I have drawn you a proper scientific explanational map


[link to imgur.com]


the black outline, as you can see, is Malaysia.


The purple line is where MH370 went

The blue line is where MH6 went including tail code change


Nowwwww you get me?


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Yes, the picture was helpful.
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titled changed.. the check cleared. hf

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titled changed.. the check cleared. hf

Idol1
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Sorry - so many possible titles - all exciting - I like to be fair - and just because someone releases a code doesn't mean they are plotting or have plotted - just because it is in Hebrew and is Biblical etc - to be fair MOSSAD run the CIA and KGB equivalent etc etc around the world - so I didn't think they would mind me involving them - but ultimately this code is saying they know.


And guess what - the more and more and more I look at this satellite data - the more I become convinced that MH370 never left Malaysia.

The furthest east it went was maybe Penang/ Langkawi - and the furthest west did not exceed the western coast line - nowhere near.

They give those dumb arcs and cut out the middle bit - why can't the plane be in the middle bit and dumb old NOAA US navy can't even mark a map properly - look at this - labelled entirely incorrectly - who did this ? report to my office.


[link to www.atsb.gov.au]


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Ok I have drawn you a proper scientific explanational map


[link to imgur.com]


the black outline, as you can see, is Malaysia.


The purple line is where MH370 went

The blue line is where MH6 went including tail code change


Nowwwww you get me?


xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel


Yes, the picture was helpful.
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It is no longer accurate - I will do it again.


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Ok I have drawn you a proper scientific explanational map


[link to imgur.com]


the black outline, as you can see, is Malaysia.


The purple line is where MH370 went

The blue line is where MH6 went including tail code change


Nowwwww you get me?


xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel


Yes, the picture was helpful.
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It is no longer accurate - I will do it again.


xx
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The orange is MH6 which changes to MH370 and may be a military jet/ fighter jet - it pretends to be MH370 - takes something out over there over the sea - then swoops back and swoops off but is not MH370

The claretty colour is MH370 - she never left. It all finally comes together - the whole MH16 stop in India - the MH17 9MMRC anomaly - the MH17 9MMRC lands in Germany - the 9MMRD is 9MMRO getting dumped - what the heyll??


???


It is the C channel which gives the game away.

OMG


I forgot the link


[link to imgur.com]


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