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I sucked it up while visiting their website on the Wednesday evening before Thanksgiving, and viewed during their church service which was available online, when Calvary Chapel's chief pastor Brian Broderson said that the #1 thing Americans had to be thankful for was ..... Law Enforcement!
Last night, he did it again. Only a few more details this time around. You know, the Romans chapter 13 thingy, wherein you pray for and diligently obey your Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, or Ghengis Khan, Nero, King George III (sorry, no American Revolution for the sort of pursuit of happiness and inherent rights), etc. You get the idea.
In this world view for God, there are no Federal Reserve wars, no illegal police residential break-ins, no Operation Mockingbird wherein your CIA and FBI heroes thread their crimes against you - and indicators of their future crimes - through their collusively-produced films and TV offerings.
Go ahead - spew it out, pro and con. But don't deny what the guy said. He isn't the only person behind an American pulpit who remains curiously unaware of the (government) world around him, and us.
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leave immediately..

God said Obey the Government he set up

not the one that lucifer overthrew it with.
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right.....I was not there physically, but viewing it online from Arizona 300 miles away. I don't post such specific comments naming a person like this lightly, but about a year ago, Broan Broderson was discussing a group of Calvary Chapel young people from their church in Aurora, Colorado who had been in attendance at the Batman film opening, where the shooter killed a bunch of people then. None of thew Calvary Chapel kids were among the dead, and Broderson inserted into his comments the statement "going to the movies is good clean fun".
I can understand one of the sheeple thinking that way, but for those of us who have spent time trying to become familiar with the government's domination of the culture, and for the chief pastor of a church network which worldwide influence, I expect much better. After all, among the other repugnant aspects of the film industry-government collusion, is that the 911 attacks were threaded for years in their films, such as in the 1998 "Enemy Of The State", in which Jon Voight's evil NSA character was born on September 11th.
I have previously e-mailed Broan Broderson about these things, and received no reply. That is the final reason why I have ;posted these comments.
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As soon as I hear this sort of crap come out of a preachers mouth I turn my back on him. It's a fact that govt puts some preachers in place as moles and shills.
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Whenever some one spouts that verse, I always have to ask what they would do if the government makes their religion illegal. Get lots of urrr, ummm, uhhhs but never a definative answer.

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which calvary chapel? in CA?
I used to attend one in so cal but I noticed a difference in the pastor and his preaching a couple of years ago right around the time the govt was tried to dictate but I believe they are still trying.
I quit going
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CALVARY CHAPEL IS A GUN (SWORD) CULT. PAUL NEITHER BAPTISED YOU NOR SAVED YOU. GOVT. WILL GIVE YOU 666 ,MARK OF THE BEAST, THE EZEKIAL "PERPETUAL SLEEP" VACCINE, ALIEN ABDUCTION PHONY "RAPTURE" AND SLAVERY. RESIST. FLEE THE CULTS NOW!
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leave immediately..

God said Obey the Government he set up

not the one that lucifer overthrew it with.
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Wow unbelieveable? Not Really... When the sheeple in most
of these dead churches are told to take the mark,
well that's called obeying the government.
So they'll take the mark and be damned.

Rev 13:

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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Run!! Don't walk from this church.

Calvary is deep into the rapture fraud also, believing the Kingdom of Heaven was never taken from the Jews as Jesus said it would be and that the physical Jews are still God's chosen, (you know, the synagogue of satan folks) rather than those who are reborn in spirit and in truth.

This false belief is the dispensationalist foundation and the reason they follow the false rapture story... one of their alleged dispensations is for "christians" (the rapture) and the other for the Jews (physical that is) which will be based on the old testament laws, according the them..... claiming Christ returns twice, once in "secret" even tho every text in the bible repudiates this.

Not a thing in scripture to support any of this but the rapture cult believes it all anyway.

Talk about itching ears.... they hear what they want to hear.

Seek the truth!
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil.

Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves.
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Calvary Chapel's have called the police on me 4 times for lawfully handing out tracts, I plan on handing them out this weekend at their college campus in Murrieta...on the sidewalk, the same sidewalk they called the police on me in the past.

something is seriously wrong with them

I will be sharing the following: Thread: The Bible proves Pi is by design (Page 2)
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Calvary Chapel is an abusive cult that not only teaches a false gospel but actively promotes zionism. Get out of that place and don't ever return, for your own sake.
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@Reverend Woo Hoo .......LOVE YOUR PICTORIAL!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!! May God give us many Reverend Woo Hoos!
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The Vineyard Church is a Calvary Chapel splinter Group.
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@15115092.....sorry to hear they tried to have you arrested (were you arrested?). Last night as I watched their church service online, a man in the congregation kneeled in the aisle and began praying very loudly. I just sat at my computer work station looking at my 26 inch desktop screen, wondering - "OK, is this guy going to be arrested, or what?"
Seriously. I wish you all well in a sincere search for truth. We all make mistakes, chief pastors included. But then, there are mistakes, and there are mistakes - you know, like leaving sincere citizdns out on a limb, with that pack of hungry lions below, laughing at those who act as their ignorant mouthpieces.
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I sucked it up while visiting their website on the Wednesday evening before Thanksgiving, and viewed during their church service which was available online, when Calvary Chapel's chief pastor Brian Broderson said that the #1 thing Americans had to be thankful for was ..... Law Enforcement!
Last night, he did it again. Only a few more details this time around. You know, the Romans chapter 13 thingy, wherein you pray for and diligently obey your Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, or Ghengis Khan, Nero, King George III (sorry, no American Revolution for the sort of pursuit of happiness and inherent rights), etc. You get the idea.
In this world view for God, there are no Federal Reserve wars, no illegal police residential break-ins, no Operation Mockingbird wherein your CIA and FBI heroes thread their crimes against you - and indicators of their future crimes - through their collusively-produced films and TV offerings.
Go ahead - spew it out, pro and con. But don't deny what the guy said. He isn't the only person behind an American pulpit who remains curiously unaware of the (government) world around him, and us.
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The reason to stay away from Calvary Chapels is simple.
They are in bed with Rick Warren and the Chrislam movement.
This will be the One World Religion.
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I think virtually All churches sign a tax form for tax relief and they all promise to shill for the govt to get the tax break.
If I were looking for a real church, I would look for one that hadn't signed the tax form and just paid income tax on what they received.

In reality, all churches are frauds, but some help raise a family to have certain good values.
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I think virtually All churches sign a tax form for tax relief and they all promise to shill for the govt to get the tax break.
If I were looking for a real church, I would look for one that hadn't signed the tax form and just paid income tax on what they received.

In reality, all churches are frauds, but some help raise a family to have certain good values.
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this1

you can't serve two masters
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Yes, I am familiar with Homeland Security's 501c3 enticements to turn pastors into whores. But, funny thing, churches don't even need that 501c3 to claim tax exemption and freedom from government control of their sermons. Read this, straight from the horse's mouth, and gag ----- [link to hushmoney.org]
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Sometimes I wonder if the whole "Submit to government" was added by government.
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When the Pharaoh ordered the midwives to kill the Hebrew children, they decided not to do it, hence they disobeyed the Pharaoh's order.

The LORD rewarded them.


If it goes against one of His commands, do as the LORD wills.
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leave immediately..

God said Obey the Government he set up

not the one that lucifer overthrew it with.
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Amen. He said to resist evil wherever we find it! Our gov't is a servant form, in this country we are caesar! I dare Christians to rise up and follow their gov't. Because their gov't is still here, it is the Constitiutional one, it is America not the UNITED STATES. It is still here it is just subdued and overpowered by the occuying force known as the corporatacracy (the organized crime syndicate, the UNITED STATES). If Christians would stop letting themselves be hypnotized by corrupt so-called churches (corporate churches, 501(c)3's)on sundays they would stand up and honor their true gov't. Get a copy of the organic Constitution and study it, that IS your gov't!!!
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Sometimes I wonder if the whole "Submit to government" was added by government.
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There are many passages that have been added, deleted or otherwise edited over the years.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Check out how many big churches use the

Bar code trackers.....everything is asked to be updated all the time. Tripped me out a last year when I had to do this for my little cousin to check her into Sunday church. Then at Wednesday bible study they asked us all b to gill out cards with all our information on it. I was only visiting it... I know churches like to keep in touch but at same time they began this bar coding n bracelets for my cousin they were also asking a lot of unnecessary private information about me.

Example :

[link to www.churchtrac.com]
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I sucked it up while visiting their website on the Wednesday evening before Thanksgiving, and viewed during their church service which was available online, when Calvary Chapel's chief pastor Brian Broderson said that the #1 thing Americans had to be thankful for was ..... Law Enforcement!
Last night, he did it again. Only a few more details this time around. You know, the Romans chapter 13 thingy, wherein you pray for and diligently obey your Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, or Ghengis Khan, Nero, King George III (sorry, no American Revolution for the sort of pursuit of happiness and inherent rights), etc. You get the idea.
In this world view for God, there are no Federal Reserve wars, no illegal police residential break-ins, no Operation Mockingbird wherein your CIA and FBI heroes thread their crimes against you - and indicators of their future crimes - through their collusively-produced films and TV offerings.
Go ahead - spew it out, pro and con. But don't deny what the guy said. He isn't the only person behind an American pulpit who remains curiously unaware of the (government) world around him, and us.
 Quoting: zionist shill 67001038


Sounds like a brainwashed slave government apologist shill.

I would not patronize that church again under any circumstance if I were you.

Yuck. Good luck.
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@15115092.....sorry to hear they tried to have you arrested (were you arrested?). Last night as I watched their church service online, a man in the congregation kneeled in the aisle and began praying very loudly. I just sat at my computer work station looking at my 26 inch desktop screen, wondering - "OK, is this guy going to be arrested, or what?"
Seriously. I wish you all well in a sincere search for truth. We all make mistakes, chief pastors included. But then, there are mistakes, and there are mistakes - you know, like leaving sincere citizdns out on a limb, with that pack of hungry lions below, laughing at those who act as their ignorant mouthpieces.
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I was never arrested, but was followed by a helicopter until pulled over, searched, cuffed, put in the back of the sheriff's car...then released...I wasn't sited in any of the four instances, Because I broke no law...they have another spirit... You will see that If you try to expose their dispensationalist pre-trib nonsense among other things to their face, then they will call the ones who they serve....all CCs and most amerika's churches are servants of another god.

the 501c3 tax exempt god, the give to God get more back on your taxes god

pathetic, disgusting and blind, profaning His Name
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If you were handcuffed and placed in the back of a cop car after a police helicopter chase/trailing, I would say you were arrested. Wow - helicopter, multiple law enforcement vehicles, and a takedown, for passing out literature (which I checked out - nothing harmful about it, although the author of The Bible Wheel has come out since its publication to denounce it, after better familiarising himself with the Hebrew language).
Oh, BTW, in case anybody out there in Internet-Land didn't know, a former high-level Calvary Chapel personality, who in the 1960's just so happened to be Timothy Leary's right-hand man at the Brotherhood Of Eternal Love in Laguna Beach, California (you know, the nice folks who flooded the USA and planet Earth with sunshine acid/LSD) is now the police chaplain for the Huntington Beach (California) Police Department!
Will wonders never cease? I'll withold his name for now, as I heard his life story years ago and respected it at the time.
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If you were handcuffed and placed in the back of a cop car after a police helicopter chase/trailing, I would say you were arrested. Wow - helicopter, multiple law enforcement vehicles, and a takedown, for passing out literature (which I checked out - nothing harmful about it, although the author of The Bible Wheel has come out since its publication to denounce it, after better familiarising himself with the Hebrew language).
Oh, BTW, in case anybody out there in Internet-Land didn't know, a former high-level Calvary Chapel personality, who in the 1960's just so happened to be Timothy Leary's right-hand man at the Brotherhood Of Eternal Love in Laguna Beach, California (you know, the nice folks who flooded the USA and planet Earth with sunshine acid/LSD) is now the police chaplain for the Huntington Beach (California) Police Department!
Will wonders never cease? I'll withold his name for now, as I heard his life story years ago and respected it at the time.
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I told the author of the biblewheel book richard, on good authority..The Living Elohiym "everything you think you have is being taken from you, shortly after that he and his wife rose quit the faith completely and became an enemy of the MOST HIGH...you really have no idea
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John Todd had some interesting info on that church:
[link to calvarychapel.pbworks.com]
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so what was the point of dragging out this Todd fellow? Are you comparing me to him? I didn't make wild allegations against anyone in Calvary Chapel.
I'm saying that, nowadays, you would have to be living under a rock not to be aware of police abuses, federal abuses, and national policies which can only be properly explained in terms of treason and profiteering.
So when a man is the chief pastor of a network of hundreds or thousands of churches worldwide, he should not make unilateral non-nuanced pronouncements on important topics.
And - with reference to my last posting - since they have repeatedly had people arrested and essentially damned people with even my own life experiences, I think it is very weird that a former CC band leader and assistant pastor who flooded the world with drugs that resulted in thousands of suicides, car crashes, broken families, etc. is now a police chaplain.
If you find anything wildly irresponsible or seditious about what I have written, please let me know.
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Sometimes I wonder if the whole "Submit to government" was added by government.
 Quoting: Equinsu Ocha


:jaynod:

There are many passages that have been added, deleted or otherwise edited over the years.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo



Yes, in violation of Revelation 22:18 and 19. Not to mention the damage that the false apostle Paul has caused.

This is a great thread.





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