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| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67318299 United Kingdom01/25/2015 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because I used a random point on the final arc - this means that the average measurement per thousand ping points is probably different and may be closer to 30 - when we get the exact measurement - we will have the precise locations - and i think there is a way to do this, but I am too sleepy now. Also, we have to bear in mind the big option that the black boxes were removed and delivered separately for the final ping - which has made my measurements off. I have also gone back to thinking the C channel flurries were on landing not taking off, which means that when the plane landed mobile phone calls were being made. This would have been at 2.40am and 7.13/ 7.15am - from memory. I will check later. In the meantime I am sure the brainy maths folks will be onto it. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66368349  Russia01/25/2015 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last summer I consulted with famous clairvoyant in Tajikistan. She is Gypsy around 60 y.o. Her name is Anor Idolmasova. She said that on the board of MH370 was a container with nuclear bomb (Zionist's false flag operation for their Purim). In addition there were two ordinary bomb. First to imitate blow with surface of the Earth. Second to stop operation by phone and destroy the plane in the air. Knowing it light aliens (angels) saved the plane by sending it into time loop. In correct time the plane will come out from the loop and all mankind will see who are this Zionist's bastards. Anor gave date of the event: - 17th of July. As you remember another plane was destroyed. Seems because Zionists get information which I sent to security department of Malaysia air company. Same messages that time I sent to Australia and China representatives. The miracle of reappearance of MH370 still waiting its time. I hope it'll be soon. |
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| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 5134626 United Kingdom01/25/2015 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I will re-do all the measuring on this thread - even though it is a mission and as I now have access to more accurate info. In the meantime, you will never believe what I have been finding out about what is going on and I will post it all up. For example - do not be one bit surprised if it comes out that there is intel saying MH370 defo reached China - not just their airspace - but mainland - and it was only because they said they had not received the plane (well not the right one with the right passengers - possibly defecting - and right cargo) that a search began. Do not be surprised to hear that MH370 - after the cancel SID - cancel flightpath episode in audio cockpit transcript - did then not take off - even though she had just been given clearance to take off. She did depart however 11 minutes later at 00.51am according to inmarsat sat data and other data which is currently being updated with respect to this. It will be explained that MH370 was not diverted to Hainan but followed this course: [link to www.google.co.uk (secure)] This is the new official story. If the Freescale dudes defected,with the mangoes, then it is possible Phil Wood - who did not defect - wanted to send his misses a message and they allowed this, but saying he was hijacked. xx It might then follow that there was to be an attempt on MH17 - to hijack it - and throw other 777 on the ground with dead passengers who could not be returned because of the defection... but was MH17 hijacked in response to MH370 hijack - or was she diverted safely? Jeepers. data follows. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 5134626 United Kingdom01/25/2015 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with the Phil Wood thing - it is also possible China hacked his phone and took a pic and posted to say - we know. Or Russia or someone did. xx It does mean his phone was turned on though. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 5134626 United Kingdom01/25/2015 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I will re-do all the measuring on this thread - even though it is a mission and as I now have access to more accurate info. Quoting: redhouserebel In the meantime, you will never believe what I have been finding out about what is going on and I will post it all up. For example - do not be one bit surprised if it comes out that there is intel saying MH370 defo reached China - not just their airspace - but mainland - and it was only because they said they had not received the plane (well not the right one with the right passengers - possibly defecting - and right cargo) that a search began. Do not be surprised to hear that MH370 - after the cancel SID - cancel flightpath episode in audio cockpit transcript - did then not take off - even though she had just been given clearance to take off. She did depart however 11 minutes later at 00.51am according to inmarsat sat data and other data which is currently being updated with respect to this. It will be explained that MH370 was not diverted to Hainan but followed this course: [link to www.google.co.uk (secure)] This is the new official story. If the Freescale dudes defected,with the mangoes, then it is possible Phil Wood - who did not defect - wanted to send his misses a message and they allowed this, but saying he was hijacked. xx It might then follow that there was to be an attempt on MH17 - to hijack it - and throw other 777 on the ground with dead passengers who could not be returned because of the defection... but was MH17 hijacked in response to MH370 hijack - or was she diverted safely? Jeepers. data follows. xx This means the acars went off 7 minutes into the flight - everything has to be adjusted accordingly. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 17:07 4.3050 102.3585 25° Northeast 122.6ks north of pibos PINGS from 17.06.49 to 17.07 - 15600 - 15620 179.9 ks from KL and horizontal distance from KL is 77.61ks 17:07 4.3863 102.3962 25° Northeast 139.9ks north of pibos from KL this is 189.8 ks pings 15600-15620 horizontal distance from KL is 81.79ks 81.79km -77.61km = horizontal distance of 4.18km in that minute which was a space of 20 pings this would give 4.18 km x 20 for 1000 pings 83.6kms = 51.946miles not 20 pings - idiot 15620 - 14900 = 720 pings 15600 - 14900 = 700 pings average pings = 710 so from take off to 1.07am average distance = 79.7ks horizontal 49.5232 miles i will call this 50 miles = 14.2 (14.3376) time - 16/17 mins check this gives 1 ping is 0.070422535/mile 20 pings is - 1.40445 100 pings is 7.04225miles 1000 pings is 70.4225miles 15620 - 14920 = 700 15600 - 14920 = 680 average pings = 690 50 miles / 690 = 0.0724637/mile 100 pings is 7.24637 1000 pings is 72.4637 I feel most accurate result is to say 1000 pings = 72.5 miles - horizontal = east or west xx this is still slightly inaccurate because we do not have the precise coordinates at point of take off which I am calculating occurred at the 14920 pings amount - not as before when i was more random and said 14800 - that was rough. This means that when the pings are less and closer to the satellite the plane is west of KL and is west by 72.5 miles per thousand pings. When the pings are over 14920 then the plane is to the east - we have a horizontal distance to the east of KL and for each 1000 pings 72.5 miles has been travelled on the horizontal to this would need to be added the vertical bearing based on time elapsed and reasonable estimate of speed. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i took loads of links of measurements used but that site doesn't link to your calculation - so i redid a couple and took screenshots etc etc [link to i.imgur.com] [link to i.imgur.com] I took averages of all data between 1.06.45 and 1.07.xx and 1.07.xx where x is number of seconds i can't remember how many etc etc to be fair and average of possible distances overall and horizontal etc etc. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66901769 United States01/25/2015 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Insider here...they have secret launch facilities.. People ejected live into outer space.. that fits in with what this guy is saying |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems there was a plot to hijack MH17 to steal the people and hold them hostage for the return of the stolen cargo/ people moved off and not sent on the decoy flight. This intel possibly became known - because MH17 landed in Berlin and swapped and another decoy flew on - possibly hijacked to Rostov on Don. The decoy plane which may have been 9MMRO disguised as 9MMRD was dumped with the dead who could not be released as the plane was missing - officially. They may have been returned previously - so we don't know who is responsible for the dump. The issue is - they are dead because of the cargo steal/ passenger steal - of Freescale people - like - this is your fault. Flight aware data has been updated to say MH370 on 7th March arrived in Beijing and that: 19:49 22.3598 114.0461 24° Northeast 511 588 39,100 Level FlightAware ADS-B 19:49 22.4569 114.0922 24° Northeast 511 588 39,100 Level FlightAware ADS-B 19:50 22.5624 114.1128 24° Northeast 511 588 39,100 Level FlightAware ADS-B 19:51 22.6397 114.0839 24° Northeast 511 588 39,100 Level FlightAware ADS-B at 2.49am it was picked up on radar on Chinese mainland just north of Hong Kong. It has also updated the new departure time: 16:51 2.8455 101.6597 327° Northwest 243 280 2,700 Level FlightAware ADS-B 16:52 2.8769 101.6452 357° North 250 288 3,400 1,800 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B [link to uk.flightaware.com] So it now matches the satellite data provided by Inmarsat. xx when you work out the horizontal distances - put them on a map from KL and draw a vertical line up and down and see where it disects. 72.5 miles per thousand pings. Also note the sat data which shows when the plane was not moving. The anomalous data is the decoy plane with new tail number. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.google.co.uk (secure)] shows the new data from flight aware - not shown before [link to uk.flightaware.com] and this point: 13 02:35:54 MAS OPS Centre informed KL-ATCC MH370 in normal condition based on signal download giving coordinate N14.90000 E109 15 00 at time 1833 UTC. [link to avherald.com] I have also shown another source for that info on another link in the other thread - mossad dome f the rock doom thread as linked above. Sorry very sleepy now - and i made mistakes in trying to show you the math before when i was sleepy. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61891479 United States01/25/2015 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thread I posted this on is messy and I feel it deserves its own thread: Quoting: redhouserebel Thread: UPDATE! MOSSAD PLOT TO PREVENT? ASSAULT ON TEMPLE MOUNT WITH LOST PLANE ON The Countdown Website OMG!!! (Page 22) this links back to page 20 to follow and see how to do calculations. ... Quoting: redhouserebel Sorry you guys - having checked the maths - every time i said penang - I should have said Butterworth. [link to www.movable-type.co.uk] [link to www.google.co.uk (secure)] I got confused a bit earlier when I redid the calculation and saw it was a bit east of Penang - that is because it was BUTTERWORTH. xx Relative info starts here: Thread: UPDATE! MOSSAD PLOT TO PREVENT? ASSAULT ON TEMPLE MOUNT WITH LOST PLANE ON The Countdown Website OMG!!! (Page 20) I should have aid Butterworth though - Not Penang. MH370 flew to Butterworth from KL after acars was turned off about 20 minutes into the flight. It stayed there for a bit then headed off for Langkawi where it also was for a bit: AT SOME POINT DURING THIS TIME LAPSE FROM 01.07.48 THE PLANE ARRIVES IN BUTTERWORTH 02.27.03 12560 1 hour 45 mins in 32.48 miles east of KL ESTIMATE - BUTTTERWORTH 02.28.14 12480 1 hours 46 mins in 33.64 mile east of KL ESTIMATE BUTTERWORTH 02.39.55 C channel 88 89 88 90 89 87 89 88 88 87 88 87 88 87 87 87 86 86 89 89 89 89 89 88 88 88 89 88 88 89 89 88 89 88 87 87 87 87 86 87 86 86 86 90 90 02.40.56 C channel 90 90 86 86 87 86 I think these flurries of C CHANNEL telephony activity means the plane is getting ready to fly again THERE WAS A SIMILAR FLURRY LIKE THIS FROM C CHANNEL AT 12.39.00 AND 12.40.00 AND 12.41.00 ETC THEREABOUTS WHICH IS NOW REMOVED FROM PAGE 19 OF DATA I THINK I COULD BE WRONG FROM BEING TIRED OR SEEING TOO MUCH DATA LOLZ BUT I AM PRETTY SURE IT IS NOW GONE 03.41.02 11500 4 hours in ESTIMATE LANGKAWI 47.85 miles east of KL BETWEEN 4.39AM AND 4.40AM THERE IS AGAIN A MASSIVE FLURRY OF C CHANNEL DATA I WILL POST IT LATER I THINK THIS IS COMMUNICATION BEFORE THE FLIGHT GOES AGAIN 04.41.04 11740 5 hours in ESTIMATE LANGKAWI 44.37 miles east of KL CORRECTION - BUTTERWORTH IS MORE ACCURATE. XX So - when it says ESTIMATE PENANG - bear in mind that the address for Butterworth base is actually in Penang. xx [link to en.wikipedia.org] Butterworth is maintained by Australian Airforce it says here - i think the hostages were split and some left at Butterworth - some deposited for transfer via langkawi - and some taken to Utapao and from there maybe transferred to diego garcia and Australia - all split up - so not one target if the hostages were... if there was a recovery attempt. ?? Also: Thread: Did MH370 land at Malaysian Military Base? It seems possible..... [link to politicalandsciencerhymes.blogspot.co.uk] Malaysia Airlines 370,Military:Butterworth air base shrouded in secrecy;they saw an unidentified blip heading for Butterworth Air Force Base. 5 Little-Known Places Made Famous by Flight 370 - Yahoo ... news.yahoo.com/5-little-known-places-made-famou...‎ Traducir esta página 19/3/2014 - The search for missing Malaysia Air flight 370 now involves 26 ... The installation is run by both the CIA and the U.S. National Security Agency. ... radar operators at Malaysia's Butterworth air base failed to report a blip on their ... Sarah says: "From all the Malaysian people Ive talked to, with some connection to the military, believe this was a Malaysian military operation of some sort". Could you convolute that just a little more? |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thread I posted this on is messy and I feel it deserves its own thread: Quoting: redhouserebel Thread: UPDATE! MOSSAD PLOT TO PREVENT? ASSAULT ON TEMPLE MOUNT WITH LOST PLANE ON The Countdown Website OMG!!! (Page 22) this links back to page 20 to follow and see how to do calculations. ... Quoting: redhouserebel Relative info starts here: Thread: UPDATE! MOSSAD PLOT TO PREVENT? ASSAULT ON TEMPLE MOUNT WITH LOST PLANE ON The Countdown Website OMG!!! (Page 20) I should have aid Butterworth though - Not Penang. MH370 flew to Butterworth from KL after acars was turned off about 20 minutes into the flight. It stayed there for a bit then headed off for Langkawi where it also was for a bit: AT SOME POINT DURING THIS TIME LAPSE FROM 01.07.48 THE PLANE ARRIVES IN BUTTERWORTH 02.27.03 12560 1 hour 45 mins in 32.48 miles east of KL ESTIMATE - BUTTTERWORTH 02.28.14 12480 1 hours 46 mins in 33.64 mile east of KL ESTIMATE BUTTERWORTH 02.39.55 C channel 88 89 88 90 89 87 89 88 88 87 88 87 88 87 87 87 86 86 89 89 89 89 89 88 88 88 89 88 88 89 89 88 89 88 87 87 87 87 86 87 86 86 86 90 90 02.40.56 C channel 90 90 86 86 87 86 I think these flurries of C CHANNEL telephony activity means the plane is getting ready to fly again THERE WAS A SIMILAR FLURRY LIKE THIS FROM C CHANNEL AT 12.39.00 AND 12.40.00 AND 12.41.00 ETC THEREABOUTS WHICH IS NOW REMOVED FROM PAGE 19 OF DATA I THINK I COULD BE WRONG FROM BEING TIRED OR SEEING TOO MUCH DATA LOLZ BUT I AM PRETTY SURE IT IS NOW GONE 03.41.02 11500 4 hours in ESTIMATE LANGKAWI 47.85 miles east of KL BETWEEN 4.39AM AND 4.40AM THERE IS AGAIN A MASSIVE FLURRY OF C CHANNEL DATA I WILL POST IT LATER I THINK THIS IS COMMUNICATION BEFORE THE FLIGHT GOES AGAIN 04.41.04 11740 5 hours in ESTIMATE LANGKAWI 44.37 miles east of KL CORRECTION - BUTTERWORTH IS MORE ACCURATE. XX So - when it says ESTIMATE PENANG - bear in mind that the address for Butterworth base is actually in Penang. xx [link to en.wikipedia.org] Butterworth is maintained by Australian Airforce it says here - i think the hostages were split and some left at Butterworth - some deposited for transfer via langkawi - and some taken to Utapao and from there maybe transferred to diego garcia and Australia - all split up - so not one target if the hostages were... if there was a recovery attempt. ?? Also: Thread: Did MH370 land at Malaysian Military Base? It seems possible..... [link to politicalandsciencerhymes.blogspot.co.uk] Malaysia Airlines 370,Military:Butterworth air base shrouded in secrecy;they saw an unidentified blip heading for Butterworth Air Force Base. 5 Little-Known Places Made Famous by Flight 370 - Yahoo ... news.yahoo.com/5-little-known-places-made-famou...‎ Traducir esta página 19/3/2014 - The search for missing Malaysia Air flight 370 now involves 26 ... The installation is run by both the CIA and the U.S. National Security Agency. ... radar operators at Malaysia's Butterworth air base failed to report a blip on their ... Sarah says: "From all the Malaysian people Ive talked to, with some connection to the military, believe this was a Malaysian military operation of some sort". Could you convolute that just a little more? I apologise - the miles are wrong in that post because i did them and they were right - then by the time i tried to show what i did i was tired and messed up - the new mileage in the posts below that one are correct - probz best not to bump that post and i will do a new one tmoz night. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to this info - it is possible that what is being said is that there is a deadline to the 30th Jan of when the cargo / mangoes/ people must be returned by - or else. The or else could be... non-return of hostages from MH17 if this happened - or it could be exposure of what happened - or something else. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
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| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. No. Just to confuse things more... To get that data - that would be accurate as per the flight aware co ordinates - but the pings for the plane do not travel those distances in those times on the sat data - hang on sorry - too tired - those measurements are only accurate of MH370 started off on the trajectory it was originally meant to be on and i don't think it did - they don't fit - i have done something wrong again i think - should maybe delete thread and start over when my mind is fresh. xx I think it is about half that mileage per pings in reality for the flight path which does not match the flight aware which is for the decoy... - they are mashing figures and confusing the issue - if anyone has a screenshot of the original flight aware data - that would be awesome - it said the plane left a good ten mins earlier and the bearings were different - i specifically remember one said 33 degrees. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If an MH17 decoy WAS hijacked - to Rostov on Don or wherever - then is that how they got the passports of the people? Or were the people taken off and the passports given only - so say Russia says to China they are allies in this = but Russia does a deal with germany and netherlands - saying - we don't want all those hostages for goodness sake - just send in some passports so we can tell china we have hostages... and also put some goodies on the plane for us... ??? Then Russia talks China into a plot to return MH370 with the deceased - to make it look like MH17 went down - while China thinks it was captured - and MH370 dumped. SO EVERYONE IS LYINGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9MMRD lands in India on the way in as MH16 collects the dead - 9MMRC continues to amsterdam and flies out and lands at Berlin - some other plane comes in across Ukraine with goods passports whatevs - 9MMRD is dumped .... what the... ??? xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 67379988 United Kingdom01/25/2015 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. No. Just to confuse things more... To get that data - that would be accurate as per the flight aware co ordinates - but the pings for the plane do not travel those distances in those times on the sat data - hang on sorry - too tired - those measurements are only accurate of MH370 started off on the trajectory it was originally meant to be on and i don't think it did - they don't fit - i have done something wrong again i think - should maybe delete thread and start over when my mind is fresh. xx I think it is about half that mileage per pings in reality for the flight path which does not match the flight aware which is for the decoy... - they are mashing figures and confusing the issue - if anyone has a screenshot of the original flight aware data - that would be awesome - it said the plane left a good ten mins earlier and the bearings were different - i specifically remember one said 33 degrees. xx You see... this is 00.55.23am and 01.01.07.03 the pings go from 15200 to 15600 about 4.5 mins = 29 horizontal miles - which does not match up with flight aware info distances - something is still wrong - too tired to fix it now - maybe i should delete thread - this plane did not take the trajectory listed on flight aware. this plane only went 29 miles when the one on the flight data went much further - so the ping distance for this plane is going to be closer to 30 per thousand pings - will check again soon. xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 56681059 United Kingdom01/26/2015 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. No. Just to confuse things more... To get that data - that would be accurate as per the flight aware co ordinates - but the pings for the plane do not travel those distances in those times on the sat data - hang on sorry - too tired - those measurements are only accurate of MH370 started off on the trajectory it was originally meant to be on and i don't think it did - they don't fit - i have done something wrong again i think - should maybe delete thread and start over when my mind is fresh. xx I think it is about half that mileage per pings in reality for the flight path which does not match the flight aware which is for the decoy... - they are mashing figures and confusing the issue - if anyone has a screenshot of the original flight aware data - that would be awesome - it said the plane left a good ten mins earlier and the bearings were different - i specifically remember one said 33 degrees. xx You see... this is 00.55.23am and 01.01.07.03 the pings go from 15200 to 15600 about 4.5 mins = 29 horizontal miles - which does not match up with flight aware info distances - something is still wrong - too tired to fix it now - maybe i should delete thread - this plane did not take the trajectory listed on flight aware. this plane only went 29 miles when the one on the flight data went much further - so the ping distance for this plane is going to be closer to 30 per thousand pings - will check again soon. xx The reason we can't use the pings against the flight aware coordinates - and why we can't use 72.5 miles as a reference per thousand pings is this: 00.40.00 approx cleared for take off 00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820 00.43.12 14920 00.55.23 15200 4 or 12 mins in 00.55.38 15220 4 or 12 mins in 00.55.53 15240 00.02.00 approx acars goes off 9 or 19 mins into flight allegedly 01.07.48 15620 26 mins in you see - from 00.00.00 to first alleged take off time we have pings from 14800 to 14920 - so all these pings are variations at the airport; certainly not a distance of over 72.5 miles per thousand - which is what would be insinuated if the flight aware data was matched to the ping data. 14800 to 14920 is 1200 ping difference - but the plane has just started and taxied along a bit. Then the ping difference to 01.07.48 is only another 700 pings - less than the taxiing distance. The plane had still not taken off - or if it had - it most certainly had not taken the bearing indicated by the flight aware as it would be flying straight north for the ping distance not to change - so the ping distance measurement does not match what it would be as per the flight aware data - for the decoy or for the usual plane run/ route. The acars went off at 00.02.00 - because the plane was still at the airport by golly. Cancel SID. You see what I mean? xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
| A Muse User ID: 64243088 United States01/26/2015 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. No. Just to confuse things more... To get that data - that would be accurate as per the flight aware co ordinates - but the pings for the plane do not travel those distances in those times on the sat data - hang on sorry - too tired - those measurements are only accurate of MH370 started off on the trajectory it was originally meant to be on and i don't think it did - they don't fit - i have done something wrong again i think - should maybe delete thread and start over when my mind is fresh. xx I think it is about half that mileage per pings in reality for the flight path which does not match the flight aware which is for the decoy... - they are mashing figures and confusing the issue - if anyone has a screenshot of the original flight aware data - that would be awesome - it said the plane left a good ten mins earlier and the bearings were different - i specifically remember one said 33 degrees. xx You see... this is 00.55.23am and 01.01.07.03 the pings go from 15200 to 15600 about 4.5 mins = 29 horizontal miles - which does not match up with flight aware info distances - something is still wrong - too tired to fix it now - maybe i should delete thread - this plane did not take the trajectory listed on flight aware. this plane only went 29 miles when the one on the flight data went much further - so the ping distance for this plane is going to be closer to 30 per thousand pings - will check again soon. xx The reason we can't use the pings against the flight aware coordinates - and why we can't use 72.5 miles as a reference per thousand pings is this: 00.40.00 approx cleared for take off 00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820 00.43.12 14920 00.55.23 15200 4 or 12 mins in 00.55.38 15220 4 or 12 mins in 00.55.53 15240 00.02.00 approx acars goes off 9 or 19 mins into flight allegedly 01.07.48 15620 26 mins in you see - from 00.00.00 to first alleged take off time we have pings from 14800 to 14920 - so all these pings are variations at the airport; certainly not a distance of over 72.5 miles per thousand - which is what would be insinuated if the flight aware data was matched to the ping data. 14800 to 14920 is 1200 ping difference - but the plane has just started and taxied along a bit. Then the ping difference to 01.07.48 is only another 700 pings - less than the taxiing distance. The plane had still not taken off - or if it had - it most certainly had not taken the bearing indicated by the flight aware as it would be flying straight north for the ping distance not to change - so the ping distance measurement does not match what it would be as per the flight aware data - for the decoy or for the usual plane run/ route. The acars went off at 00.02.00 - because the plane was still at the airport by golly. Cancel SID. You see what I mean? xx Yes, but why the ping difference? You had me going. I was on board, but now  Last Edited by A Muse on 01/26/2015 01:04 AM It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed. |
| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 56681059 United Kingdom01/26/2015 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: redhouserebel No. No. Just to confuse things more... To get that data - that would be accurate as per the flight aware co ordinates - but the pings for the plane do not travel those distances in those times on the sat data - hang on sorry - too tired - those measurements are only accurate of MH370 started off on the trajectory it was originally meant to be on and i don't think it did - they don't fit - i have done something wrong again i think - should maybe delete thread and start over when my mind is fresh. xx I think it is about half that mileage per pings in reality for the flight path which does not match the flight aware which is for the decoy... - they are mashing figures and confusing the issue - if anyone has a screenshot of the original flight aware data - that would be awesome - it said the plane left a good ten mins earlier and the bearings were different - i specifically remember one said 33 degrees. xx You see... this is 00.55.23am and 01.01.07.03 the pings go from 15200 to 15600 about 4.5 mins = 29 horizontal miles - which does not match up with flight aware info distances - something is still wrong - too tired to fix it now - maybe i should delete thread - this plane did not take the trajectory listed on flight aware. this plane only went 29 miles when the one on the flight data went much further - so the ping distance for this plane is going to be closer to 30 per thousand pings - will check again soon. xx The reason we can't use the pings against the flight aware coordinates - and why we can't use 72.5 miles as a reference per thousand pings is this: 00.40.00 approx cleared for take off 00.42.48 14900 14900 14920 14940 correspond to before take off 14860 14840 14820 14780 14800 14820 00.43.12 14920 00.55.23 15200 4 or 12 mins in 00.55.38 15220 4 or 12 mins in 00.55.53 15240 00.02.00 approx acars goes off 9 or 19 mins into flight allegedly 01.07.48 15620 26 mins in you see - from 00.00.00 to first alleged take off time we have pings from 14800 to 14920 - so all these pings are variations at the airport; certainly not a distance of over 72.5 miles per thousand - which is what would be insinuated if the flight aware data was matched to the ping data. 14800 to 14920 is 1200 ping difference - but the plane has just started and taxied along a bit. Then the ping difference to 01.07.48 is only another 700 pings - less than the taxiing distance. The plane had still not taken off - or if it had - it most certainly had not taken the bearing indicated by the flight aware as it would be flying straight north for the ping distance not to change - so the ping distance measurement does not match what it would be as per the flight aware data - for the decoy or for the usual plane run/ route. The acars went off at 00.02.00 - because the plane was still at the airport by golly. Cancel SID. You see what I mean? xx Yes, but why the ping difference? You had me going. I was on board, but now  The pings are like a GPS co-ordinate - they tell you where the plane is exactly with respect to the satellite - look: 02.27.03 12560 1 hour 45 mins in 02.28.14 12480 1 hours 46 mins in a ping difference of: 12560 - 12480 = 80 pings different - which according to the 72.5 measurement for the flight aware data - could be true so long as the plane is flying - it would give a rough horizontal mileage of 6 miles plus the distance travelled with respect to the hypotenuse created by the ping difference trajectory; but in alignment with the measurements before take off we cannot take this to be true - so far we know - the plane did not fly in the direction towards PIBOS at all - as per the flight data listed for the flight. Unless... the plane came into land.... taxied... pretended to prepare for take off then switched off for a bit - let me have a look properly tomorrow - today - later. I get very confused when I am tired. xx xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
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| redhouserebel (OP) User ID: 56681059 United Kingdom01/26/2015 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the pings matched the flight aware data - then Inmarsat would have their arc in the wrong place - and I don't think they are that silly - but it is by comparing the sat data to what you perceive to be other known data which has caused the anomalous and seemingly conspirational silly searches; people have just analysed the data incorrectly. I can see how it happened - as there must have been two planes. All the data has to fit - for time distance ping - and what the plane is capable of - it was not capable of some of the suggestions as per the data. xx Above using the flight data and comparing it to the pings - I have shown you exactly how the mistakes were made. xx xx A MILF Mortgage - coming soon ;) |
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