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Muslims Urinate On And Destroy Virgin Mary Statue In Small Church In Italy.

 
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sounds like yet another made up story by our joo friends in order to get more support from Christians to fight their enemies.
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yes, because it's very Christlike to wish to drop people en masse into a blender.

i see you , servant of Satan. those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
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Amen
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Literally, how could you drop people in masse into a blender?
 Quoting: Mountain Woman

You admit you want them all killed.
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NO, I do not admit that. I do admit I would rather see a Muslim jihadist killed before he or she has a chance to behead an innocent victim.

I want this bloodiness stopped. I want these Muslims jihadists to be destroyed, for if they are not, they will destroy everyone in their path.
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Totally False. Any Muslim knows that the Virgin Mary is revered and one of the most important woman in religion. She is mentioned in the Qur'an many times more than any other person and has a complete Sura or chapter dedicated to her.

Sorry but this one is a fabricated one.



Still we love you Mountain Woman. hfhfhfy_smile





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This is a para from an article in 2012, but pertains to the mindset the Muslims have about Idols as they call them including important historical momuments. Remember when the destroyed the giant Buddhist statues, well have a read of this:

Murgan Salem al-Gohary, an Egyptian jihadist, has called for the destruction of the Sphinx and the great pyramids so long associated with the splendor of Ancient Egypt. In a November 10 interview on an Egyptian television station, al-Gohary denounced those historical monuments as idols offensive to Islam: “All Muslims are charged with applying the teachings of Islam to remove such idols, as we did in Afghanistan when we destroyed the Buddha statues. God ordered Prophet Mohammed to destroy idols. When I was with the Taliban we destroyed the statue of Buddha, something the government failed to do.”

[link to www.thenewamerican.com]
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I hate to see such destruction of beauty.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Yes, me too. Seriously, is there anything that "does not" offend Muslims. Since they are so sensitive & easily offended, perhaps they could all consider moving back to their homelands where they can continue being offended by each other.
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Muslims would never defile Mary.

Ignorant Christian boys? Yes. Ignorant secular kids? Yes. Other religions trying to false flag? Yes.

What those who likely false-flagged this don't realize is that Mary is sacred to Muslims.

Nice try, no cookie.
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This guy thinks otherwise:
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Totally False. Any Muslim knows that the Virgin Mary is revered and one of the most important woman in religion. She is mentioned in the Qur'an many times more than any other person and has a complete Sura or chapter dedicated to her.

Sorry but this one is a fabricated one.



Still we love you Mountain Woman. hfhfhfy_smile






 Quoting: Centurion


Centurion, do you believe these were Muslims who were not devout, or just hoodlums?

I do not trust Islam nor do I trust Muslims at this point.

I want ISIS stopped, and I want women to be respected under sharia law.
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This is a para from an article in 2012, but pertains to the mindset the Muslims have about Idols as they call them including important historical momuments. Remember when the destroyed the giant Buddhist statues, well have a read of this:

Murgan Salem al-Gohary, an Egyptian jihadist, has called for the destruction of the Sphinx and the great pyramids so long associated with the splendor of Ancient Egypt. In a November 10 interview on an Egyptian television station, al-Gohary denounced those historical monuments as idols offensive to Islam: “All Muslims are charged with applying the teachings of Islam to remove such idols, as we did in Afghanistan when we destroyed the Buddha statues. God ordered Prophet Mohammed to destroy idols. When I was with the Taliban we destroyed the statue of Buddha, something the government failed to do.”

[link to www.thenewamerican.com]
 Quoting: hollyhocks


I hate to see such destruction of beauty.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Yes, me too. Seriously, is there anything that "does not" offend Muslims. Since they are so sensitive & easily offended, perhaps they could all consider moving back to their homelands where they can continue being offended by each other.
 Quoting: hollyhocks

I would like that, too.
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vm1122

A group of Muslims urinated on and destroyed a statue of the Virgin Mary, the Holy Mother.

This is very near and dear to my heart, because when my baby died I asked the Lord and the Virgin Mary to please cradle him in their arms and do what I could not. The Virgin Mary is very sacred to me. I have a special statue of her in my home.

Imagine if this happened in a mosque?

A man was kneeling in prayer before the statue of the Virgin Mary with a photograph of a beloved in hand in the small chapel of St. Barnabas in Perugia, Italy, when he was attacked by five Muslims.

First they tore the photograph from his hands. Next, they unleased their hatred against the image of the Virgin. They broke the statue to pieces and then urinated on it.

I wonder if the Pope would preach tolerance in this unspeakable act of terror, since he has been doing so much of that lately.

If this had happened in a mosque, the Muslims would probably riot.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


If Christians broke into a mosque and desecrated the inside... the Muslims would be screaming to high Allah. Yet, they can do it to the Christians and no one says anything?
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I want to thank everyone who participated in this thread: the good, the bad, and the ugly.

If we were all alike, life would be boring.

I am proud of who I am, and haters can hate...don't bother me.

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Was more likely undercover mosssad, this is much more their m.o., to stir up emnity betw. muslims and catholics...typical by deception we wage war shit.

More accurately, the Koran acknowledges the existence of Mary, while on the other hand, the Jewish Talmud actually denigrates her.

To be clear.
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if you christians read your bible you would know statues of living things are strictly prohibited
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Holy objects are Holy...bottom line.

It is like destroying the Bible, a statue of Jesus, a cross, or even a church.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


G-d is looking on stupid humans...and G-d makes his desisions, how he will punish them. They maybe think, there is no one, who looks directly on them, but there is destiny....they will get their punishment....we cannot say, how? maybe in some other things, they would like to to get and will not get them...so, I am sure, there is justice in Heaven!
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Totally False. Any Muslim knows that the Virgin Mary is revered and one of the most important woman in religion. She is mentioned in the Qur'an many times more than any other person and has a complete Sura or chapter dedicated to her.

Sorry but this one is a fabricated one.



Still we love you Mountain Woman. hfhfhfy_smile






 Quoting: Centurion


Centurion, do you believe these were Muslims who were not devout, or just hoodlums?

I do not trust Islam nor do I trust Muslims at this point.

I want ISIS stopped, and I want women to be respected under sharia law.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


I am with dear. But In Islam it is BLASPHEMY to do such a lowly act. Just saying...hf
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This world of ours is a world of duality (ying/yang) & there always has to be a balancing of things......so too, will these Muslims who do such despicable acts will have their day of balancing or accounting for their actions. This goes for the Jews also & yes the governments of the world who also have a heavy load of negative Karma. No one walks away from their actions.

The destruction of the statue of Mary is their way also, of displaying their hatred for women in general. If they will do this to the woman who was the mother of Jesus, what will they do to us, given the chance.
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Totally False. Any Muslim knows that the Virgin Mary is revered and one of the most important woman in religion. She is mentioned in the Qur'an many times more than any other person and has a complete Sura or chapter dedicated to her.

Sorry but this one is a fabricated one.



Still we love you Mountain Woman. hfhfhfy_smile






 Quoting: Centurion


Centurion, do you believe these were Muslims who were not devout, or just hoodlums?

I do not trust Islam nor do I trust Muslims at this point.

I want ISIS stopped, and I want women to be respected under sharia law.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Remember what I said yesterday about Sunni Islam and the Saudi Wahhabis and Muslim Brotherhood Salafis. I believe that if it was done by Muslim scum that it was probably those filthy non-secular Sunni Wahhabis and Salafi Muslim terrorist dogs.
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Muslims would never defile Mary.

Ignorant Christian boys? Yes. Ignorant secular kids? Yes. Other religions trying to false flag? Yes.

What those who likely false-flagged this don't realize is that Mary is sacred to Muslims.

Nice try, no cookie.
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This guy thinks otherwise:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54890476


These guys are Sunni Wahhabis and Salafis who are following the Saudi, Qatari and Turkish Muslim Brotherhood extremist views of Wahhabi and Salafi ideology.

Filthy Sunni Muslim cowards. I would not hesitate to slit this goat fucking child molesting perverts throat. Medieval cult of barbarians. I would like to take his head and bash it like he did to this statue of Mother Mary. Peace and Blessing to her.
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if you christians read your bible you would know statues of living things are strictly prohibited
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Oh come on.
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Muslims would never defile Mary.

Ignorant Christian boys? Yes. Ignorant secular kids? Yes. Other religions trying to false flag? Yes.

What those who likely false-flagged this don't realize is that Mary is sacred to Muslims.

Nice try, no cookie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67429890


This guy thinks otherwise:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54890476


These guys are Sunni Wahhabis and Salafis who are following the Saudi, Qatari and Turkish Muslim Brotherhood extremist views of Wahhabi and Salafi ideology.

Filthy Sunni Muslim cowards. I would not hesitate to slit this goat fucking child molesting perverts throat. Medieval cult of barbarians. I would like to take his head and bash it like he did to this statue of Mother Mary. Peace and Blessing to her.
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Apart from religious considerations (clearly you won't reach an agreement here), I would like to add my 2 cents.

Saying it as a person working with people around the world and meeting a lot of diverse muslims.

Here is goes:
Muslim lowlifes (petty hooligans, uneducated savages or just overly confident youth) will be really keen on destroying all the things we (the Western people) hold dear. And it won't be just about annihilation per se. They will be really happy to torture (a person, an object or immaterial value) in front of white/Jewish/Christian person's eyes. They want to see you suffered and humiliated.

And yes: regardless whether they are devout muslims or secularized scum, it will be the islamic culture that helped them to lose they empathy and mercy.

Thank you.
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Mary has nothing to do with Christians. She is a Catholic Idol. pope2
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Mary was the Mother of God, and in that role she suffered immensely, and when I lost my son, I suffered the same. I feel close to her, and there is nothing you can say to change that.
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Mary, was also married to a man named Joseph in the story.

If God got her pregnant with His son, then their relationship was an abomination, according to the Law of Moses.

Which means that it was not possible for God do it.

It was just a story someone wrote long ago.

Pure fiction.
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Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary,
that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection,
implored your help or sought your intercession,
was left unaided.
Inspired with this confidence,
I fly to you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother;
to you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,
despise not my petitions,
but in your mercy hear and answer me.

Amen.
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I love this prayer, and I pray it everyday.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


1 Timothy 2:5; acts 7:48

Flee from praying to anyone but God in Jesus name Friend...... Or you are not worshiping in spirit and truth; you will (or may have already) lose the holy spirit; and be prone to spiritual deception, etc. That's why we God search the holy bible (kjv) everyday to learn God's will for us and how to have a relationship with him that is pleasing.

It's God who intercesses for us. Hebrews 7:25


Mary was just a human! She's dead now; just like all the saints. "Asleep" according to the Bible.

(Daniel 12:2, 1 Kings 2:10, 1 Corinthians 15:20, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18)

The Bible tells us it is the infallible, preserved Word of God. So therefore if there is anything false; the whole thing has to be rendered as false; or on the contrary every word is true; and therefore we must take consult it and it only as the ultimate authority and in context of the whole book which is the progressive revelation of God and his plan for salvation for mankind.

We can't pick and choose which precepts we follow if we are to worship Christ in spirit and truth.

John 14:15, Joshua 24:14

If you seek the truth with all your heart you will find.
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Thank you mountain woman for this thread. It takes fortitude to wade through the massive hate from Muslims, but now so called Christians are attacking their Christian brethren because they decided Catholics cannot be Christian. May God spare them for their bigotry and hate directed against the children of our Lord Jesus Christ and His most beloved mother Mary who we do well to honor. Funny how certain so called Christians think bashing a 2000 year religion has any meaning. The Catholic church is more than 1.5 billion strong and has survived attacks from within and without and always will. May God have mercy on those who attack His son's children and His son's mother.
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Protestants, God bless them, never let go of certain protests
even though they have been explained 10,000 times since
the split from Roman Catholicism.

No one worships Mary, she is a human person, only God is
worthy of worship.

Read Revelation as example for the intercession of the saints.
Protestants see they're intercessors here for loved ones
but have block, can't understand the "prayers of a righteous
man availeth much
" as it says in Scripture. The saints in
Heaven fit this bill. They intercede, answer prayers for
us down here and all in God's Will.

Statues are not idols when they are of Our Lord, Mary and
the saints in Heaven. I've seen images of Our Lord in
Protestant Bibles. There you go....

A painting, a statue is a reminder of who we love like
photos of loved ones. Get it dear non-Catholic Christians?

God was talking about false Gods as example not the real God and dear holy saints in Heaven.
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Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary,
that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection,
implored your help or sought your intercession,
was left unaided.
Inspired with this confidence,
I fly to you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother;
to you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,
despise not my petitions,
but in your mercy hear and answer me.

Amen.
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I love this prayer, and I pray it everyday.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


1 Timothy 2:5; acts 7:48

Flee from praying to anyone but God in Jesus name Friend...... Or you are not worshiping in spirit and truth; you will (or may have already) lose the holy spirit; and be prone to spiritual deception, etc. That's why we God search the holy bible (kjv) everyday to learn God's will for us and how to have a relationship with him that is pleasing.

It's God who intercesses for us. Hebrews 7:25


Mary was just a human! She's dead now; just like all the saints. "Asleep" according to the Bible.

(Daniel 12:2, 1 Kings 2:10, 1 Corinthians 15:20, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18)

The Bible tells us it is the infallible, preserved Word of God. So therefore if there is anything false; the whole thing has to be rendered as false; or on the contrary every word is true; and therefore we must take consult it and it only as the ultimate authority and in context of the whole book which is the progressive revelation of God and his plan for salvation for mankind.

We can't pick and choose which precepts we follow if we are to worship Christ in spirit and truth.

John 14:15, Joshua 24:14

If you seek the truth with all your heart you will find.
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Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary,
that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection,
implored your help or sought your intercession,
was left unaided.
Inspired with this confidence,
I fly to you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother;
to you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,
despise not my petitions,
but in your mercy hear and answer me.

Amen.
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If Muslims love Mary so much, why do they degrade their women?

Is a woman not stoned to death in Islam if she is suspected of infidelity?

Just because her husband believes she committed adultery, does not mean she actually did.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


but in his eyes, she did, and that is all that counts for him.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


But that is not enough reason to have her stoned to death.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


in your opinion? or the opinion of her husband? Is this not a part of their custom? We perceive their beliefs as being barbaric, yet they perceive us as infidels. are we both not right? and wrong?
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That's the whole point, it's not a debate of right and wrong because their is no winner in that argument. It doesn't matter if muslims think their values are right and our values are wrong, that doesn't give them a right to come into OUR Western countries and try to change OUR values. They can do what they think is right in their own countries, even if it seems barbaric to Westerners, but in Western countries it is WRONG for them to murder and stone women to death, or oppress anyone with force or violence.

If they want to challenge our code of right and wrong while living amongst us then they are at war with Western values and should be treated as such. Mind you, muslims can go back to their backward way of life in their home countries anytime, but they don't, because they are actively trying to change Western values through force, violence and political pressure.
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God has it figured out. True, Islam has a devotion to Our Lord's mother, most likely and it is prophesied, mankind may see Mary most Holy at the time of the worldwide, every soul on the earth experience of God's awakening on "that great day" of Revelation 6:17.

What a help for Muslim's conversion, they're so off on everything else~!
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Protestants, God bless them, never let go of certain protests
even though they have been explained 10,000 times since
the split from Roman Catholicism.

No one worships Mary, she is a human person, only God is
worthy of worship.

Read Revelation as example for the intercession of the saints.
Protestants see they're intercessors here for loved ones
but have block, can't understand the "prayers of a righteous
man availeth much
" as it says in Scripture. The saints in
Heaven fit this bill. They intercede, answer prayers for
us down here and all in God's Will.

Statues are not idols when they are of Our Lord, Mary and
the saints in Heaven. I've seen images of Our Lord in
Protestant Bibles. There you go....

A painting, a statue is a reminder of who we love like
photos of loved ones. Get it dear non-Catholic Christians?

God was talking about false Gods as example not the real God and dear holy saints in Heaven.
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Trumping the clapping hands with a bump up of the Truth.


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:vm1122:

A group of Muslims urinated on and destroyed a statue of the Virgin Mary, the Holy Mother.

This is very near and dear to my heart, because when my baby died I asked the Lord and the Virgin Mary to please cradle him in their arms and do what I could not. The Virgin Mary is very sacred to me. I have a special statue of her in my home.

Imagine if this happened in a mosque?

A man was kneeling in prayer before the statue of the Virgin Mary with a photograph of a beloved in hand in the small chapel of St. Barnabas in Perugia, Italy, when he was attacked by five Muslims.

First they tore the photograph from his hands. Next, they unleased their hatred against the image of the Virgin. They broke the statue to pieces and then urinated on it.

I wonder if the Pope would preach tolerance in this unspeakable act of terror, since he has been doing so much of that lately.

If this had happened in a mosque, the Muslims would probably riot.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


Fingers crossed.

We should carpet bomb mecca with pig entrails.
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But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed

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The communion of saints living and dead is real. Angels too may help and do, as do our family ancestors (saints in heaven). We also all have guardian angels who help us.
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The communion of saints living and dead is real. Angels too may help and do, as do our family ancestors (saints in heaven). We also all have guardian angels who help us.
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Amen! And...patron saints. This is how God sees it,
we are all one big family...helping each other.
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This is a strange story OP because true Muslims also revere Mary and Jesus. I wonder if this is a story to stir the hatred pot again?

I love Mary also and so sorry for your loss. I know she cradles your baby with much love.





GLP