Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Expert observers, state officials and civil society activists who are in contact with citizens in the self-proclaimed Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics describe an atmosphere of "chaos" in those regions, with militant leaders who take marching orders from the Kremlin struggling to maintain order. "Despite all attempts to create police, they could not do it," Dmytro Snegiryov, head of the Prava Sprava civil initiative, an NGO that supports the army and monitors conditions in the conflict zone, told SETimes. "Today the main acting principle there is that a person with a weapon can dictate rules to civil citizens. Most mercenaries in the LPR or DPR are from Russia, they came there to rob. Laws for them are empty words. They received arms, and can do what they want." "They have the martial law there, so if somebody from the rebels takes your property, from their point of view it is legal," Sergiy Garmash, editor-in-chief of the Donetsk news agency Ostrov, told SETimes. "We have the facts when rebels take apartments, or militants could settle in empty apartments. They decided that if, for example, people have left their homes and communications in the area are destroyed, they may take such property." "When the ceasefire was active, volunteers and community organisations delivered humanitarian aid to those areas at least," Berg said. "But now it is difficult to predict how the situation will develop in the future." [link to ukraine.setimes.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61506119 United States 01/30/2015 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Azov’s latest recruit was Andrii, a 52 year-old doctor who left the rebel-held city of Luhansk last week in disgust with the separatist administration there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67531557 Neither wanted to be fully identified because of fear of retaliation. “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town,” Andrii said. “These are the only people making money. I haven’t been paid for seven months and there is hardly any food and medicine in the city.” [link to www.kyivpost.com] More lies from LuGansk by the Kiev Nazis. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." In a food ration for 25 days per person are included: biscuits, sugar, salt, tea, rice, meat and canned fish. [link to ukraineinvestigation.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Luhansk airport completely destroyed in fighting in Ukraine (video) [link to news.yahoo.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." "Pension payments, medical supplies, salaries for public service workers… all this has been withdrawn" Up to half a million people once lived in Luhansk. Around half of them have now fled the city that lies in the hands of rebels hell-bent on pushing back any government offensive. Emilie Rouvroy has seen things in this front-line region go from bad to worse. As the regional project coordinator for Medecins Sans Frontieres, she’s been fighting an uphill battle to get fresh supplies into hospitals. The biggest problem that we have seen and what I myself have seen, having visited hospitals and institutions, is the lack of medicine. If you visit the pharmacy of a hospital with 300 or 400 beds, there are just shelves with a few boxes. Doctors are expected to treat patients with hardly anything. It’s the same at the primary healthcare level - not just in hospitals. Surgeons and doctors can’t work. There’s a huge shortage of anaesthesia. One doctor told me they needed to operate on a child but they couldn’t because they didn’t have any anaesthesia. In some hospitals 20 percent of the staff left; in others up to 50 percent. “Some hospitals don’t have windows because bomb blasts have blown them all out, making it extremely cold” [link to observers.france24.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." This is to please Russian shills, right from the wolf's mouth, saying Chechens are deeply involved! Chechen leader accuses US, West of seeking to shatter Russian economy GROZNY, January 28. /TASS/. Head of Russia’s North Caucasian Republic of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, has accused the United States and the West of seeking to shatter the Russian economy by their sanctions but vowed Russia will hold out. [link to itar-tass.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." [link to itar-tass.com] Does this statement of your beloved Chechen leader make any sense to you Russian shills? work hard, to work round-the-clock to prevent unemployment growth? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 67531557 Romania 01/30/2015 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Thread: Ukranian Ministry of Defense accuses Russia of using tactical nukes on Luhansk airport |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63918486 Romania 01/30/2015 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Meet Elena. Elena and her husband pastor a small church in Uspenka, Luhansk Region. She recently sent us a message, asking us for food because there is a shortage in the region and her family had not eaten in two days. [link to websta.me] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61506119 United States 01/30/2015 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." This is to please Russian shills, right from the wolf's mouth, saying Chechens are deeply involved! Chechen leader accuses US, West of seeking to shatter Russian economy GROZNY, January 28. /TASS/. Head of Russia’s North Caucasian Republic of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, has accused the United States and the West of seeking to shatter the Russian economy by their sanctions but vowed Russia will hold out. [link to itar-tass.com] Of course Russia's involved at this point. There's no way Russia was going to let the EU and USA run a puppet dictatorship in Kiev unchallenged. By the way, I'm American and not a shill. I just don't think we should be fuckin' with the Ukraine. Putin isn't doing anything that we wouldn't do if, say, China set up a puppet dictatorship in Mexico. Screw your ass-cap on son. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67442003 United States 01/30/2015 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Expert observers, state officials and civil society activists who are in contact with citizens in the self-proclaimed Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics describe an atmosphere of "chaos" in those regions, with militant leaders who take marching orders from the Kremlin struggling to maintain order. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67531557 "Despite all attempts to create police, they could not do it," Dmytro Snegiryov, head of the Prava Sprava civil initiative, an NGO that supports the army and monitors conditions in the conflict zone, told SETimes. "Today the main acting principle there is that a person with a weapon can dictate rules to civil citizens. Most mercenaries in the LPR or DPR are from Russia, they came there to rob. Laws for them are empty words. They received arms, and can do what they want." "They have the martial law there, so if somebody from the rebels takes your property, from their point of view it is legal," Sergiy Garmash, editor-in-chief of the Donetsk news agency Ostrov, told SETimes. "We have the facts when rebels take apartments, or militants could settle in empty apartments. They decided that if, for example, people have left their homes and communications in the area are destroyed, they may take such property." "When the ceasefire was active, volunteers and community organisations delivered humanitarian aid to those areas at least," Berg said. "But now it is difficult to predict how the situation will develop in the future." [link to ukraine.setimes.com] there is not russian mercenaries there..... some dressed in russian uniforms maybe but they are not russian.....Stop accepting the propaganda people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67534725 United States 01/30/2015 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Azov’s latest recruit was Andrii, a 52 year-old doctor who left the rebel-held city of Luhansk last week in disgust with the separatist administration there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67531557 Neither wanted to be fully identified because of fear of retaliation. “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town,” Andrii said. “These are the only people making money. I haven’t been paid for seven months and there is hardly any food and medicine in the city.” [link to www.kyivpost.com] OP this is a rather silly post on your part. You keep spamming it, bumping it and for what point? Is anyone suppose to be surprised there are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries separatist country? Are we suppose to be surprised that they probably are the only ones who have liquid income during a war time scenario? Are you trying to ring some bells? Sound some alarms? About what? In war, people, citizens die, starve and go without food. The army gets fed first. You seem OP a propagandist trying to garner sympathy for Ukraine/Kiev. As it is, as bad in these regions as you describe those people, those separatists, those militants are winning that civil war. Ukraine/Kiev is losing. I suggest you make your future points more transparent. If you want to say Ukraine/Kiev is in fear of losing the Civil War, then say "I fear Ukraine/Kiev is going to lose!" If you want people to feel some sympathy for Ukraine/Kiev then just ask for it, and be honest. As it is, Ukraine/Kiev is losing and nobody gives a shit. However lying or passing off propaganda will not get you anywhere either. As it is, the Eastern part of Ukraine, the separatist are winning, and in quite a grand fashion. As it is, the Eastern part of Ukraine, the separatist must be united and in affect one must conclude the people they are fighting for are united as well. You want sympathy for Ukraine/Kiev then talk about how effectual of a job their Military and Political appointees are doing in their job. Seeing as they are on a losing path your comments OP should be centered around their failures. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67585602 Romania 02/01/2015 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Representatives of local authorities and a group of volunteers patiently await buses transporting the people that have fled Debaltseve, the nearby Donetsk Oblast city where fighting is ferocious. "I understand that they’re frustrated, but we try the best we can,: Vitaliy says. "We could shelter them in Sviatohirsk, but the shelters there are full. Maybe they can spend one or two nights in a tent, but the best would be for them to be taken care of by volunteers in Kharkiv or Kyiv. There they won’t have war on their minds, and there is place for them. Once there’s no place in Kharkiv or Kyiv they might need to sleep in our tent." People arrive safely, but have no money. "I took only one bag as my house was destroyed. I want to go to Sumy, but I have no money for that," 59-year old Pavel says. He is from Horlivka, a city controlled by separatist forces. He refuses to give his last name as his mother still lives there and is not strong enough to travel. Because of Pavel’s registration in Horlivka, he hasn’t received his pension for seven months, leaving him financially destitute. [link to www.kyivpost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67585602 Romania 02/01/2015 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." Azov’s latest recruit was Andrii, a 52 year-old doctor who left the rebel-held city of Luhansk last week in disgust with the separatist administration there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67531557 Neither wanted to be fully identified because of fear of retaliation. “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town,” Andrii said. “These are the only people making money. I haven’t been paid for seven months and there is hardly any food and medicine in the city.” [link to www.kyivpost.com] OP this is a rather silly post on your part. You keep spamming it, bumping it and for what point? Is anyone suppose to be surprised there are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries separatist country? Are we suppose to be surprised that they probably are the only ones who have liquid income during a war time scenario? Are you trying to ring some bells? Sound some alarms? About what? In war, people, citizens die, starve and go without food. The army gets fed first. You seem OP a propagandist trying to garner sympathy for Ukraine/Kiev. As it is, as bad in these regions as you describe those people, those separatists, those militants are winning that civil war. Ukraine/Kiev is losing. I suggest you make your future points more transparent. If you want to say Ukraine/Kiev is in fear of losing the Civil War, then say "I fear Ukraine/Kiev is going to lose!" If you want people to feel some sympathy for Ukraine/Kiev then just ask for it, and be honest. As it is, Ukraine/Kiev is losing and nobody gives a shit. However lying or passing off propaganda will not get you anywhere either. As it is, the Eastern part of Ukraine, the separatist are winning, and in quite a grand fashion. As it is, the Eastern part of Ukraine, the separatist must be united and in affect one must conclude the people they are fighting for are united as well. You want sympathy for Ukraine/Kiev then talk about how effectual of a job their Military and Political appointees are doing in their job. Seeing as they are on a losing path your comments OP should be centered around their failures. Check this out, Russian shill: KRASNYI LUCH, Ukraine — Russia-backed rebels battling for control of a strategic town in eastern Ukraine say they're suffering heavy losses at the hands of government forces after a few key victories. "We [were] shelled and I'm [thinking] 'Oh my God, this is too close,'" said Artur, a rebel lying in a bed in Krasnyi Luch City Hospital, some 22 miles from the town of Debaltseve. "I only remember that roaring sound of incoming mortar [fire], explosion, dust and suddenly it became very dark." Carnage surrounded the fighter when he regained consciousness in the forest outside town. "I'm looking around — pieces of meat everywhere, just pieces of meat, some bodies ... [were] just laying there," he said, requesting that only his first name be used. Since Monday, more than 70 fighters have been treated at this hospital alone — a major increase, according to staff. Staff say they don't know how many fighters have been killed. In nearby Krasnyi Luch City Hospital, two rebels who did not want to be named said they had witnessed an increased number of casualties. The recent escalation in violence comes as separatists intensify their offensive against Ukrainian forces near rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk. [link to www.nbcnews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67585602 Romania 02/01/2015 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Ukrainian doctor from Luhansk: “There are Russian soldiers and Chechen mercenaries all over the town, these are the only people making money." These setbacks are creating divisions among rebel troops, the rebels say. "I'm a little bit demoralized because so many guys suffered, a lot of guys I used to know [were] killed," Artur said from his hospital bed. A rebel fighter in another room also described intensifying fighting during a battle over a rail hub about 18 miles from Debaltseve. "On the way we faced intensive resistance [from] the Ukrainian army, we had to fight back ... others were also wounded but I don't know where they are," said the separatist, who did not want to reveal his identity for fear of retaliation. He was shot twice in the leg and shrapnel is embedded in his back. But he was lucky — many other fighters did not survive, the rebel said. "Losses were big," he added. [link to www.nbcnews.com] |