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"Chemtrails" (haw haw) show up in this month's Nat Geo. Climate changers vindicated!

 
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When water vapor in hot aircraft exhaust hits very cold, moist air, it freezes. That creates white contrails, which can spread into wispy cirrus clouds with climate change potential. Some reflect the sunís heat before it reaches Earthís surface, for a cooling effect. But overall, contrail cirrus clouds trap heat and, by one estimate, contribute more to warming than aircraft carbon dioxide emissions do...

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This is the best video with facts. I've had lots of problems posting this too.

www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/geoengineering-a-clear-and​-present-danger-2/120998
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But why so odd recently .. Is it an increase in air traffic? Down to my grandparents commenting .. I have some really awesome pics .. Why on hot days? Is it that much of a temp difference?
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When water vapor in hot aircraft exhaust hits very cold, moist air, it freezes. That creates white contrails, which can spread into wispy cirrus clouds with climate change potential. Some reflect the sunís heat before it reaches Earthís surface, for a cooling effect. But overall, contrail cirrus clouds trap heat and, by one estimate, contribute more to warming than aircraft carbon dioxide emissions do...

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Contrails


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Chemtrails


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There's a difference
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But why so odd recently .. Is it an increase in air traffic? Down to my grandparents commenting .. I have some really awesome pics .. Why on hot days? Is it that much of a temp difference?
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There is a huge temp difference. usually about 4 degrees, (plus or minus) per 1000 ft. The jets usually fly around 30,000 ft. if it's 90 degrees on the ground, 4x30=120 degree drop. That is minus 30 degrees at altitude.

Then you must have moisture. Combustion of the fuel creates moisture. (Contrails)

For the trails to persist, there must be a high relative humidity at elevation. Not real common. I've been checking when I see the trails, and it does not correlate.

So, looks to me like something else is going on, like spraying.

We had planes flying all over at altitude when I was young, and the persistent trails were virtually unseen.

The more efficient engines of today (6% more efficient) argument doesn't make sense, because they burn less fuel, producing less, not more, H2O.

The older engines burned dirtier, producing more carbon particulates, thus more nuclei for cloud, or persistent formation, yet we did not see that. We see more now, with cleaner engines.

I don't have the all answers, but I get hit with lots of "answers" that do not all hold water (pun intended).
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Contrails


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Chemtrails


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There's a difference
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The difference I see is a rotary internal combustion engine vs a jet engine.

I did find it interesting that Nat Geo does mention the same thing that chemtrailers do; that contrails are changing the temperature.
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Guess I should also mention that clouds, which persist, tend to clump together, forming even larger clouds, and larger areas of denser clouds. Many formations, as we all know.
Overcast tends to be at lower altitudes.

What we see with these "persistent contrails" is they spread, but do not disappear, are not absorbed or dissolve readily, and as they are added to, they eventually cover the sky in a murky, haze.

This is highly suspicious behavior for H2O, and was not normal in the sky as witnessed by those of us who grew up in the pre-90's. Jets were there from the 40's on. I grew up in the 50' and 60's next to an Air Force Base. Never saw this stuff until the 90's.
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I knew these fuckers where trying to heat the earth, with their chem-trails, it creates a blanket effect, trapping in the earths heat. These fuckers are psychopaths, they don't want to be wrong, so they are artificially creating global warming.
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Guess I should also mention that clouds, which persist, tend to clump together, forming even larger clouds, and larger areas of denser clouds. Many formations, as we all know.
Overcast tends to be at lower altitudes.

What we see with these "persistent contrails" is they spread, but do not disappear, are not absorbed or dissolve readily, and as they are added to, they eventually cover the sky in a murky, haze.

This is highly suspicious behavior for H2O, and was not normal in the sky as witnessed by those of us who grew up in the pre-90's. Jets were there from the 40's on. I grew up in the 50' and 60's next to an Air Force Base. Never saw this stuff until the 90's.
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hesright
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Lets spoon feed the sheep with more bullshit.
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[link to ngm.nationalgeographic.com]

When water vapor in hot aircraft exhaust hits very cold, moist air, it freezes. That creates white contrails, which can spread into wispy cirrus clouds with climate change potential. Some reflect the sunís heat before it reaches Earthís surface, for a cooling effect. But overall, contrail cirrus clouds trap heat and, by one estimate, contribute more to warming than aircraft carbon dioxide emissions do...

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Ok we have some chemtrails here at night...never seen that before
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Lets spoon feed the sheep with more bullshit.
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yeah they're just water vapor contrails!!!! lol
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Lets spoon feed the sheep with more bullshit.
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yeah they're just water vapor contrails!!!! lol
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I knew these fuckers where trying to heat the earth, with their chem-trails, it creates a blanket effect, trapping in the earths heat. These fuckers are psychopaths, they don't want to be wrong, so they are artificially creating global warming.
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bump

But why is my question? I mean it is not rocket science (exceptions for contards) that creating the atmosphere of a volcanic eruption 24/7 365 would result in this but why? For the $$$; because there certainly is a lot of $$$ in this. SMH. What a sad world we live in today.
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Lets spoon feed the sheep with more bullshit.
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yeah they're just water vapor contrails!!!! lol
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Plausible deniability...
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I knew these fuckers where trying to heat the earth, with their chem-trails, it creates a blanket effect, trapping in the earths heat. These fuckers are psychopaths, they don't want to be wrong, so they are artificially creating global warming.
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bump

But why is my question? I mean it is not rocket science (exceptions for contards) that creating the atmosphere of a volcanic eruption 24/7 365 would result in this but why? For the $$$; because there certainly is a lot of $$$ in this. SMH. What a sad world we live in today.
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Chemtrails = Nanotech

Check out my thread

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Guess I should also mention that clouds, which persist, tend to clump together, forming even larger clouds, and larger areas of denser clouds. Many formations, as we all know.
Overcast tends to be at lower altitudes.

What we see with these "persistent contrails" is they spread, but do not disappear, are not absorbed or dissolve readily, and as they are added to, they eventually cover the sky in a murky, haze.

This is highly suspicious behavior for H2O, and was not normal in the sky as witnessed by those of us who grew up in the pre-90's. Jets were there from the 40's on. I grew up in the 50' and 60's next to an Air Force Base. Never saw this stuff until the 90's.
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:Hesright Hesright:...

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Yes
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Re: "Chemtrails" (haw haw) show up in this month's Nat Geo. Climate changers vindicated!
I knew these fuckers where trying to heat the earth, with their chem-trails, it creates a blanket effect, trapping in the earths heat. These fuckers are psychopaths, they don't want to be wrong, so they are artificially creating global warming.
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bump

But why is my question? I mean it is not rocket science (exceptions for contards) that creating the atmosphere of a volcanic eruption 24/7 365 would result in this but why? For the $$$; because there certainly is a lot of $$$ in this. SMH. What a sad world we live in today.
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Chemtrails = Nanotech

Check out my thread

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Guess I should also mention that clouds, which persist, tend to clump together, forming even larger clouds, and larger areas of denser clouds. Many formations, as we all know.
Overcast tends to be at lower altitudes.

What we see with these "persistent contrails" is they spread, but do not disappear, are not absorbed or dissolve readily, and as they are added to, they eventually cover the sky in a murky, haze.

This is highly suspicious behavior for H2O, and was not normal in the sky as witnessed by those of us who grew up in the pre-90's. Jets were there from the 40's on. I grew up in the 50' and 60's next to an Air Force Base. Never saw this stuff until the 90's.
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All I can say anymore is " don't go in the rain". Especially the one that lasts a minute and has highly irregular rain drops...

Now that should be funny but is actually quite sad.

TU Opie. You clearly know of what you speak. They are warming up the sheep for something that has already been going on for a long while. Get ready. hiding
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Guess I should also mention that clouds, which persist, tend to clump together, forming even larger clouds, and larger areas of denser clouds. Many formations, as we all know.
Overcast tends to be at lower altitudes.

What we see with these "persistent contrails" is they spread, but do not disappear, are not absorbed or dissolve readily, and as they are added to, they eventually cover the sky in a murky, haze.

This is highly suspicious behavior for H2O, and was not normal in the sky as witnessed by those of us who grew up in the pre-90's. Jets were there from the 40's on. I grew up in the 50' and 60's next to an Air Force Base. Never saw this stuff until the 90's.
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And you rock. hf
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But why so odd recently .. Is it an increase in air traffic? Down to my grandparents commenting .. I have some really awesome pics .. Why on hot days? Is it that much of a temp difference?
 Quoting: Annihilation


There is a huge temp difference. usually about 4 degrees, (plus or minus) per 1000 ft. The jets usually fly around 30,000 ft. if it's 90 degrees on the ground, 4x30=120 degree drop. That is minus 30 degrees at altitude.

Then you must have moisture. Combustion of the fuel creates moisture. (Contrails)

For the trails to persist, there must be a high relative humidity at elevation. Not real common. I've been checking when I see the trails, and it does not correlate.

So, looks to me like something else is going on, like spraying.

We had planes flying all over at altitude when I was young, and the persistent trails were virtually unseen.

The more efficient engines of today (6% more efficient) argument doesn't make sense, because they burn less fuel, producing less, not more, H2O.

The older engines burned dirtier, producing more carbon particulates, thus more nuclei for cloud, or persistent formation, yet we did not see that. We see more now, with cleaner engines.

I don't have the all answers, but I get hit with lots of "answers" that do not all hold water (pun intended).
bf33a
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


I like your answer .. Science mixed with how I think ..

If they are not spraying .. There needs to be some emission checks on those plans ..


What kinda sold me was china declared a couple years ago they would produce so much more of a percent of lost precipitation from Ariel spray ..

And one great documentary where it shows weather modification going back to early 1900s ..

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