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The True Nature of the Simulation

 
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Matrix redux

Not enough matter in the universe to create such computational power.

Seriously. Too much real detail to simulate.
 Quoting: Jar Jar Jeb 64744173


Only what is needed to be seen by the observer is rendered

just like a video game

if a large-world style game like Zelda for example, would crash if it actually rendered the entire game world all the time.

The double split experiment suggests that perhaps matter doesn't really "render" until it is observed (needs to appear to exist)

So, you wouldn't need a huge amount of computational power

the real trick would be the force which keeps so many "people" on the same server and in sync...
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The post I was referencing above was also another talking about 144,000 being the number of 'actual souls' jacked in, splintered into 8 or 9 each...
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road ahead
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Maybe that's why digital camo works so well? chuckle
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Around a year-and-a-half ago, I realized I was dreaming. I became lucid during my waking dream. I would say that I am lucid now around 20% of the time. It is quite a trip!

However, when I try to back up to see WHO or WHAT is doing the dreaming, I hit a brick wall. Literally, there is a hard, flat space right behind my eyes or behind my head. I cannot tell who or what is doing the dreaming. This is my biggest question.

In the meantime, I have been having a bunch of fun manipulating this so-called waking dream. I am continually amazed at what I can do now.

So, to speak of Medically Technological immortality doesn't make much sense to me. This notion might excite those who still think they are a body, but I see how crazy that is. It's a frickin' dream! You can do anything you want to do by simply changing a few things mentally. You don't even need a body to do a lot of stuff. It's all mental.
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Bump because this info doesn't expire.
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

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The more you seek, the farther away it gets.

God is you.
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5* great summary OP
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Yeah; I had the figured the same sort of conclusion; I just didn't know what the "reward" was really. But I know that we are all in a competition of sorts here. It's not really about how much money you make; all though determination is a great asset to have.

I don't think I'll get immortality off this life; but perhaps I'm closer to attaining it than my last life. Not sure. Actually I'm not overly sure that we actually get more than one chance at this; because we get a LOT of training on the other side of sorts. Or in the very least we know a lot about this place.

Either way; there's no telling that the "Analogue" as you call it; is the final destination. Or if it's just another layer of separation; maybe it's better to just not think too much about it.
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Yeah; I had the figured the same sort of conclusion; I just didn't know what the "reward" was really. But I know that we are all in a competition of sorts here. It's not really about how much money you make; all though determination is a great asset to have.

I don't think I'll get immortality off this life; but perhaps I'm closer to attaining it than my last life. Not sure. Actually I'm not overly sure that we actually get more than one chance at this; because we get a LOT of training on the other side of sorts. Or in the very least we know a lot about this place.

Either way; there's no telling that the "Analogue" as you call it; is the final destination. Or if it's just another layer of separation; maybe it's better to just not think too much about it.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 67123852


Death does not wish to kill one who does not have attraction and aversion, nor false notions and mental habits. Death does not wish to kill one who does not suffer from mental illness, who does not entertain desires
and hopes which give rise to anxieties and worry, who is not poisoned by greed, whose body and mind are not burnt by the fire of anger and hate, who is not churned and ground by the mill of lust, who is firmly established in the
pure awareness, and whose mind is not distracted.

The evils do not even approach one whose heart has found the state of utter quiescence and tranquillity. Nor do illnesses of the body and the mind affect him. His awareness neither rises nor sets either in deep sleep or in
the waking state. He whose mind and heart are established in supreme peace is not touched by the blinding evils borm of lust and hate. He neither seeks nor
spurns, neither gives up nor gathers, though he is constantly engaged in appropriate action. None of the evil forces afflict him. All joy and happiness and all auspicious qualities flow towards him.
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"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control

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Thread: Amazing Connection!! The Great Pyramid was a Weapon. Valles Marineris the Result?
Thread: The True Nature of the Simulation
Thread: The Fractal Nature of Time and Matter, The Higgs Field and The Inter-Cosmic Macro-Fractal Electro-Chemical Brain.
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Medical Technological Development created methods of indefinite "anti-aging" long long ago, beyond ancient. Along with this, quantum computer networks were also developed with the capability of simulating every aspect of reality as it is interpreted by the human brain.

These quantum computer networks are used to "screen" general humanity. They have created this/these holographic simulation(s) as (a) screening area(s) where they just pick and choose who they allow into the "real" based on certain requirements. Think about it, in a world where physical immortality is possible through medical science and technology, how else could it be?

These immortals are human, or maybe more accurately described as technologically aided post-human that every human has the potential to be. Those with access to such technology would have some decisions to make. Certain questions would inevitably arise. Would the ones with access to immortality inducing technology be able to intermingle with those who do not? Why would one be denied access? Is everyone respectful of the rights of others? Does everyone deserve indefinitely extended life? Are humans born inherently "good?"

Many other concerns with natural balance and overpopulation would also arise when immortality is possible through technology. When no one dies, yet reproduction is still possible, overpopulation and resource shortage can happen very quickly. Also because of this concept, when the population within the simulation reaches a pre-determined "critical mass", a "programmed" cataclysm occurs, and "resets" the population back to a manageable amount.

These virtual holo-realities were created so they can just pick and choose who they share their immortal universe with, and the rest just live out their lives, never realizing they exist within a simulation, all the while, a fragile equilibrium with nature is maintained. And because of the cataclysm cycle programmed into the simulation, the immortal humans get to pick from the best minds of countless possible human civilizations and the types of people they produce. You would be surprised at how diverse the spectrum of human cultural possibility is, and how a culture can shape the syntax of thought for an individual. There have been some amazing technologies that have come out of unlikely places.

Your real body, outside the simulation, "dreaming" this reality, that is your true soul, your true physical body. And not everyone within this simulation has one, some people might actually be Artificial Intelligence, and only exist as part of the simulation. Are they real? Do they possess sentience? Are they aware? I don't know. I guess whatever one feels to be their "source" or "point of origin" would determine their individual life/religious philosophy.

Immortality is one of those things that, if everyone knew it was possible, it would do more damage than good. If people knew for a fact that this was the goal, would their actions and convictions be genuine? Its just one of those things that one does not get to know about.... until...... well ...you pass the test.
 Quoting: Tantalus





DARPA got you by the balls with 1000 different storylines


This is the true simulation.


You have a real live but made believe you are living in a fantasy simulation.


Snap out of it.
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Best described in terms of digital vs analogue.
 Quoting: Tantalus


Also...

Particle vs. Wave.
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Best described in terms of digital vs analogue.
 Quoting: Tantalus


Also...

Particle vs. Wave.
 Quoting: Base12


In that regard, the real reality never is compressed, light never becomes a particle, but exists always as a wave, even when not being observed.
"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither"
--Benjamin Franlkin

No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk?

Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control

------------------------
Other Interesting Threads by Tantalus:
Thread: Anunnaki, Nibiru, Brown Dwarfs, and Gravitational Time Dilation
Thread: Amazing Connection!! The Great Pyramid was a Weapon. Valles Marineris the Result?
Thread: The True Nature of the Simulation
Thread: The Fractal Nature of Time and Matter, The Higgs Field and The Inter-Cosmic Macro-Fractal Electro-Chemical Brain.
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The more you seek, the farther away it gets.

God is you.
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This is the reality of our reality
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The more you seek, the farther away it gets.

God is you.
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This is the reality of our reality
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Unchain my Soul.
Great thread,
Highly possible.
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Think about living a life of at least 2000 years, think of the crap they had to witness. They have seen more than they would have ever wanted to.

They probably Hiding in a quite cave some where as far from people as they can get. Come out sometimes for food and supplies and back they go. More than likely they would not want to see the others that often either, that way they don't get tired of them.

They would not live a normal life, cause they would have to watch people they had come to care about pass from this world and they can not. So, it hiding a dying ever so often to reappear as a look a like, but with a new name. Well, that is the way I would be, if I had to live that long on earth, they may have like the quit times before all the new gadgets Like the mess we are in now, of course they may have something to do with it, payback, for all the trouble.

They would be wrong to do it, and on the chance it was some one like that, turn it off. It is drive some of us out of our heads. Insomnia is going around, I used to think I was rare well not now. Ever one I now has insomnia! That is not normal and sure is not helping any one.
 Quoting: Daughter


They don't need to hide away, they die too, or their bodies do.
The difference is they go out 'knowing' and when they get back, they still 'know'.

You have it twisted and fantasied all over the place.

"Think about living a life of at least 2000 years, think of the crap they had to witness. They have seen more than they would have ever wanted to. "

Think about living a million times longer than that....people in this era today are pretty shabby and gross...
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Zowie!

I get it now!
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seems to be,some interesting perspectives here... it's worth a read, if you've the change to spare...
some guy named JFK said
" the only thing we have to fear, is fear itself..."
whatever happened with him?
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WYSIWYG
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so the immortals would equate to the digital then /
 Quoting: metaskeleton


No, this place, inside the simulation, is the digital environment. The world outside the simulation is analogue.

I find it interesting that you automatically assumed that digital is better. Granted, if you want to fit a lot into a small space, digital works well, but nothing can beat a real analogue "vibration". Most will never know the difference.
 Quoting: Tantalus


thats interesting

i assumed that you thought it would be digital for the reason you assumed i didtounge

understood

however , the case could be made that the digital is finer and thus has a greater ability of producing affects with greater subtlety.....

.....afterall it is accepted that what is of the mind (data)affects what is of the material(mechanical)

or not ?
 Quoting: metaskeleton


what came first, digital or analogue? I am inclined to believe that analogue came first. Digital then came along attempting to emulate analogue.

Now imagine, a level above analogue. That is the world outside the simulation.

Mind you, the digital/analogue comparison was only used for lack of a better common frame of reference and may not entirely accurately describe the concept I am attempting to convey.
 Quoting: Tantalus


Quantumlog (Quantalog)
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God scared the shit out of me the other day, he literally
spoke in a rather loud voice and forceably said you don't
exist! I thought if I don't exist that means I never existed.
True story.





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