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What if the Criminal Elite Somehow Know the Truth About an Afterlife?

 
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What if the Criminal Elite Somehow Know the Truth About an Afterlife?
And that's why they feel empowered to practice so many extreme evils: genocide, assassinations, lying, exploiting, killing, warring, etc. killing millions and destroying the lives of billions, of animals, humans, destruction to the earth, etc., for centuries upon centuries.

What if THEY have known something with absolute certainty what the afterlife (if any) is like ever since, say, ancient Sumer - for example, there is no afterlife, there's no punishment in the afterlife, everybody goes to heaven regardless, etc.

I take no stance one way or another. I simply don't know. But what if THEY do KNOW for certain some truth and that truth has been passed down the ruling classes' family lines since the beginning? What if that's the real esoteric knowledge and all other mystery religions or "secret" knowledge serve only to distract us?

If a greedy and powerful individual or group knew for sure there is no afterlife, or you go to a heaven regardless and there's no punishment, why wouldn't said individual or group do whatever they want to acquire riches and power - in this world - despite the suffering they leave behind?

Granted, a lot of evil behavior can be attributed to some sort of organic brain disorder, criminal psychopathy, interbreeding craziness, personality disorders, even syphilis, (not that any of that excuses it; those people are defective and need to withdrawn from society one way or another), but what about the people who know better yet still commit such horrible crimes regardless?

Please note: I am in no way saying that one needs a religion to know right from wrong (I'm agnostic myself). But the possibility of burning in hot excrement for eternity would be a pretty big deterrent to me if I thought it would be a good idea to hurt others on such a colossal scale that we have seen throughout history.

These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools. -George Carlin

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They're not worried about an afterlife.
All these fucking elite motherfuckers care about is the here and now.

They couldn't give a flying fuck about what happens next.
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Not only do they know but they have perfected the art of changing their human disguise after fake deaths in a variety of criminal activities.
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These are good points. I've wondered, based on the oddly ancient ruins scattered around (Göbekli Tepe for instance), if there isn't some natural disaster that cycles every 13000 years or so that wipes whatever civilization managed to crawl up from last hit. (These wonderments aren't anything new, of course, I'm just puzzling together ideals from whatever can be gleaned from history, speculation, and religion).

The criminal elite would be the survivors or some type of Illuminati that has this knowledge and is simply riding each cycle out in style while playing games with humanity.

The question would be, 'why don't they just help mankind advance beyond having to suffer from these horrible disasters?', and my answer would be, 'just look at them'.

They seem to be very selfish and evil. They're big fish in a little pond and if they actually help rise man above, they'd lose most if not all of their power. All they have to do when the time comes is safely wait out the doom in their bunkers and start the game anew once the smoke clears.

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If only you would knew for yourself, you wouldnt worry about what they could know.
gonna make ya a STAH!

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The threat of punishment in an "afterlife" shouldn't be the reason people don't do evil.

The reason people don't do evil should be because it's wrong. And how do you arbitrarily define "wrong", you might ask?...

...The Golden Rule uber alles!

The rationale is simple. The difficult part is having the discipline to choose the right (as the Mormons say).

With wisdom, comes responsibility.

Much like "mankind's dominion over the animals", as stated in the Bible. With dominion, comes responsibility and stewardship. As parents have over their kids. As a person has over his/her pet.

The Golden Rule prevails. That's why it's golden.

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I'd say it's a safe bet to say that most everyone thinks they're a good person.

Even if they're an evil fuck, most people somehow justify what they're doing is for some good.

So the elite, I'm sure, have some fucked up justification to explain why what they're doing is actually good, and expect (if they believe in an afterlife) that they will be rewarded after they croak.
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a wolf knows a wolf


so they don't worry
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THEY (ELITE) are brainwashed by SATAN himself...
and take orders from him...
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The forces at work seem to be larger than earth based reality. It's as if whoever is moving the pieces on the board care as little as we do about the pieces in a risk game.
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Some do some don't. If you were paying attention you would know too.

Do you think all the people who have experienced astral projection and near death experiences are lying. Of course one must understand that people project into the spirit world their particular brand of belief when they die. At least for a time. Thus instantly creating their perceived reality.
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that the Earth is flat and that we are a petridish experiment?
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They, TPTB, Ill-uminati, The Patriots, are all names given to those who stole power, they have managed to survive by doing all those things of which we as humanity should never had done. And they've been here all the past versions of this sh!t.
They are at the peak of civilization, pulling all the strings and of course they know! That's how they got there in the first place, they've been the smartest psychopaths who thought they could break the rules without no one noticing.
They created religions, politics, media, money, educational and health (gmo's and partially effective meds) services as means of control; and to some extent this was useful for some time for them, but things can't stay the same, they never do.
But just as there is light and the absence of it, these puppets are being led by their own egotistical desires and internal demons. Everything being done here resonates on bigger and smaller scales [from quantum (meaning it happens and doesn't happen at the same time and place, which could be everywhere and nowhere at the same time resonating at past, present and future at the same time) to macroscopic scales and of course dimensions], thus what they've been doing has altered this simulation in ways they wouldn't expect. They chose to serve evil and oppress humanity and they have to pay for it, both the puppets and the puppeteer (The Puppet Master).
This time they cannot survive, they won't leave earth in time.
The program is about to crash and reboot.

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They're not worried about an afterlife.
All these fucking elite motherfuckers care about is the here and now.

They couldn't give a flying fuck about what happens next.
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so you think

reality is a fractal - look around

they only have to achieve their goals once to destroy your whole fractal observation - we have to be lucky every time we jump -
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Their time draws short.

There will be no escape this time.

BIG FISH have risen in their small controlled pond.

They have already lost control.

Awake sleepers.
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Re: What if the Criminal Elite Somehow Know the Truth About an Afterlife?
Hitler believed that he was a good man. Even if he was a homosexual.
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That is one of the topics that a person has to deep think on.
Because they push karma and consequences and a kind of soul trap, but none of them seem to get karma. David Rockerfeller is not living crushed in the gutter covered with lesions for his crimes against society.

What I believe is they are either annanuki, or minions of annanuki, some are the real entities themselves. Made possible because throughout history, they have been committing horrible gravity inducing crimes against all of nature, mother earth and humanity, so the frequency lowers overall enough to lower realms so their dead star guys can enter.

They serve dead stars,ie Sirius B, head of the annanuki, and their outposts of Saturn and the Moon.

And feel they are rewarded if they deal in humans and run earth like a perpetual trap for both the positive/negative ionic jumpstart, like batteries, and for the experiences they wipe the human soul clean of and recycle. Which is why they always want people to "choose", to make a choice, to define polarity. Instead of see through everything and not react at all, but let the waters calm so you can see your reflection in them.

Something like John Lear talks about, soul traps on the moon.

But that they have miscalculated because its all crimes, there are Hero's overseeing and freeing those not so far gone in the mire, and they'll all be facing what they've done themselves one day.

Hidden Hand wrote elsewhere online that they try to get a high negative score, because if they fall short, they'll just get trapped like humans again. In other words, they are sold that the more negative they are the more they rule with the overlords,or keep their cushiony spots. Otherwise they just end up in the soul traps themselves.


Many of the annanuki have been recycled here as well.

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the elite are either atheists or believe God is on their side and approves/is indifferent to what they do to the rest of humanity.

its not likeky that a group that views outsiders as insects would behave ethically.
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I believe I have heard some say that they don't care what happens after they die.
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The only fact I know is that I won't be around but there will be others after me. I want to leave behind a place that is better for those that follow.
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Re: What if the Criminal Elite Somehow Know the Truth About an Afterlife?
The bloodlines believe in an afterlife.

Every now and then it does bother them what they get up to.

However, it's not just kings and ceos and bankers who are bad.

It's the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker as well.

And all have excuses for their behaviors.

This is why communism ends up being as cruel and evil as monarchies.

Atheists (sci. materialists) are as arrogant as church prelates.


All (whether high or low) are subject to temptation in this place.


What to do?


Ethical leadership matters, because standards are set at the top and orders go through the ranks.


For individuals, once mature enough, understand that the bad things done to others and creation stay with those who have done them.

Everyone faces death and judgement.
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The bloodlines believe in an afterlife.

Every now and then it does bother them what they get up to.

However, it's not just kings and ceos and bankers who are bad.

It's the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker as well.

And all have excuses for their behaviors.

This is why communism ends up being as cruel and evil as monarchies.

Atheists (sci. materialists) are as arrogant as church prelates.


All (whether high or low) are subject to temptation in this place.


What to do?


Ethical leadership matters, because standards are set at the top and orders go through the ranks.


For individuals, once mature enough, understand that the bad things done to others and creation stay with those who have done them.

Everyone faces death and judgement.
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Particularly odious are the liars.


A member of group a who hates group b, pretends to be a

member of group c, to stir up and goad hatred and violence

against group b by the members of group c.


These are like arsonists who start fires and blame someone

else and watch it burn while speed dialing their insurers.
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Re: What if the Criminal Elite Somehow Know the Truth About an Afterlife?
Nah. They KNOW there's an afterlife but for them it's better to be a big fish in a little pond (our domain) than an insignificant fish with no power in the GReat Beyond.

So they practice all their evil stuff to keep us mired in the same reincarnation cycle as them so they can feed off of us because if enough of us wake up to the machine and escape, they lose power and if they lose enough power, it all collapses and they they are nothing.





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