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INMARSAT SATELLITE DATA FOR MH370 SHOWS DATA FOR THREE PLANES UPDATE PAGE 5: EIGHT PLANES IN INMARSAT DATA EIGHT PLANES

 
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OP,

remember that, "Is this real or is this simulated?" air traffic controller response on the day of 9/11 when 'all those fucking wargames' were afoot over USA/Canada.

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OP,
Are the steep ascent to high altitude and a flight path to Diego Garcia pertinent to this passenger aircraft?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



don't know where the steep ascent data came from.

There is no indicator in the official flight radar data of a steep ascent:

[link to uk.flightaware.com]


If the satellite data was read incorrectly then the 51700 BTO reading could have been mistakenly read as a steep ascent - I have outlined how this could happen on an adjoining linked thread.

Unless I know where this steep ascent is documented and how - I cannot fully comment.


There is a strong indication the planes pinging were going and coming to and from from U-Tapao in southern Thailand.


U-Tapao is a USAF BASE - used a bit like Guantanamo Bay in some ways some times - for terrorist suspects to be taken to and also as a flight transit point between Diego Garcia and elsewhere; it is known for this and also has a naval base. I posted map pics of at least one plane in this area - and others going to and from - the data strongly indicates plane transit of at least two planes travelling north into the Gulf of Thailand - though this info is cut from the data released by the Malaysian Government - it is still available online here:


[link to github.com (secure)]




If you look at the data here:

[link to www.dca.gov.my]


page 41


00.10.59.928 this is the time UTC so 8.10.59am in the morning of the 8th March


you will see the R channel for MAS OPS R1200-0-36ED doing a log on log off acknowledge at BFO 252 BT0 18040

This is the U-Tapao.


The R channel usually seems to have a 2 ping variance with the location of the P Channel which is a distance of about 14kms to 15 kms I think.


Because we do not have more access to the data - we cannot at this stage say that the plane landed here or if it simply flew over - but it was there.


xx
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OP,
Are the steep ascent to high altitude and a flight path to Diego Garcia pertinent to this passenger aircraft?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



don't know where the steep ascent data came from.

There is no indicator in the official flight radar data of a steep ascent:

[link to uk.flightaware.com]


If the satellite data was read incorrectly then the 51700 BTO reading could have been mistakenly read as a steep ascent - I have outlined how this could happen on an adjoining linked thread.

Unless I know where this steep ascent is documented and how - I cannot fully comment.


There is a strong indication the planes pinging were going and coming to and from from U-Tapao in southern Thailand.


U-Tapao is a USAF BASE - used a bit like Guantanamo Bay in some ways some times - for terrorist suspects to be taken to and also as a flight transit point between Diego Garcia and elsewhere; it is known for this and also has a naval base. I posted map pics of at least one plane in this area - and others going to and from - the data strongly indicates plane transit of at least two planes travelling north into the Gulf of Thailand - though this info is cut from the data released by the Malaysian Government - it is still available online here:


[link to github.com (secure)]




If you look at the data here:

[link to www.dca.gov.my]


page 41


00.10.59.928 this is the time UTC so 8.10.59am in the morning of the 8th March


you will see the R channel for MAS OPS R1200-0-36ED doing a log on log off acknowledge at BFO 252 BT0 18040

This is the U-Tapao.


The R channel usually seems to have a 2 ping variance with the location of the P Channel which is a distance of about 14kms to 15 kms I think.


Because we do not have more access to the data - we cannot at this stage say that the plane landed here or if it simply flew over - but it was there.


xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel

I remember the +service-ceiling altitude from somewhere, perhaps the Rolls Royce sat data stream. I've lost touch, has Rolls Royce recanted their statements about the MH370 data?
Radar data showed ascent to +45,000 then the engine data stream confirmed descent from +45,000.

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OP,
Are there any runways long enough in Malaysia for MH370 to land?... that don't have cell towers to ping the passenger phones? Even traveling over the countryside the plane would be tracked by cell comms.
The immediate Rolls Royce response, to relieve them of engine failure liability, was engines were running for 4 hours after it went missing(or dark!).
RR Engine sat data uploads would continue on a different comm, whereas remote control of the plane would shut down any/other tracking comms.
 Quoting: uscrusader1



I am confused by the C Channel data - if we had an honest expert and not a shill to tell us what C Channel is a lot might be revealed.

I was swinging between wondering if it was mobile phones or military type communication.

I don't know what C Channel release is - does it mean: you can now use your phones - implying it is possible for in-flight use to be blocked? I think a lot is still left to be revealed by the C channel data. The timing of the bursts seems very relevant to me.

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There are many airports in Malaysia - civilian - military and private - and yes while there are airports where a passenger plane that size could land - it is possible from the data to allow ourselves to wonder if MH370 after its original flight was cancelled - flew to one of these or straight to U-Tapao or elsewhere while other planes kept the pings going over the mainland.

Without more data we cannot say - which is why we need all the data - there are definitely flights heading very close to Butterworth - but using my calculations I can't actually pinpoint one landing there and staying there -


the data is like this:


it starts at 11.41pm ish - not published by malaysia - this shows flight P10500-0-3859 coming in over the Gulf of Thailand - and then it is at KL for 12 midnight



7/03/2014 15:41:52907 IOR—R1200—O—36ED IOR 305 4 R—Channel RX 0x22 — Access Request (R/T—Channel) 141 14940
7/03/2014 15:41:53405 IOR—P10500—O—3859 IOR 305 10 P—Channel TX 0x51 — T—Channel Assignment
7/03/2014 15:41:57248 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX 0x71 — User Data (ISU) — RLS 142 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:57409 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX Subsequent Signalling Unit 142 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:57559 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX Subsequent Signalling Unit 140 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:57728 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX 0x22 — Access Request (R/T—Channel) 140 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:57905 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX Subsequent Signalling Unit 140 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:53048 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX Subsequent Signalling Unit 140 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:58208 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX Subsequent Signalling Unit 140 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:58399 IOR—T1200—O—36FA IOR 305 10 T—Channel RX Subsequent Signalling Unit 140 9920
7/03/2014 15:41:58405 IOR—P10500—O—3859 IOR 305 10 P—Channel TX 0x51 — T—Channel Assignment

Because we have another T channel tail assignment - we do not know the flight path from here to KL.





then the data goes from midnight to 29 mins past - then skips to 42 mins - then 55 mins - past midnight - then we have 1.07am ish


then we get all the carrying on between 2 and 2.39am


then it goes to hourly pings - although all three planes ping between 8.10 and 8.19am - so loads of data missing - some is defo removed.


Ideally also we need sat data for those P Channels from other days or flights.



The plane above - with the data given - I think the data wanted to imply this was MH370 - but this is more likely the plane "selamat pagi" - good morning - used as a decoy when MH370 cancelled its flight at take off - and stayed grounded at that point - while P3859 picked up as the flight.

??


The last ping we get from this plane's P-Channel is at 2.05am - but there are 3 more planes pinging later - which is one of the reasons i say - we have AT LEAST 3 planes involved here - unless this P Channel has been removed from the data at 8.10am to 8.19am - it is clear there is a P Channel missing from the info there - but we can only guess without the data.


xx

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OP,
Are the steep ascent to high altitude and a flight path to Diego Garcia pertinent to this passenger aircraft?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



don't know where the steep ascent data came from.

There is no indicator in the official flight radar data of a steep ascent:

[link to uk.flightaware.com]


If the satellite data was read incorrectly then the 51700 BTO reading could have been mistakenly read as a steep ascent - I have outlined how this could happen on an adjoining linked thread.

Unless I know where this steep ascent is documented and how - I cannot fully comment.


There is a strong indication the planes pinging were going and coming to and from from U-Tapao in southern Thailand.


U-Tapao is a USAF BASE - used a bit like Guantanamo Bay in some ways some times - for terrorist suspects to be taken to and also as a flight transit point between Diego Garcia and elsewhere; it is known for this and also has a naval base. I posted map pics of at least one plane in this area - and others going to and from - the data strongly indicates plane transit of at least two planes travelling north into the Gulf of Thailand - though this info is cut from the data released by the Malaysian Government - it is still available online here:


[link to github.com (secure)]




If you look at the data here:

[link to www.dca.gov.my]


page 41


00.10.59.928 this is the time UTC so 8.10.59am in the morning of the 8th March


you will see the R channel for MAS OPS R1200-0-36ED doing a log on log off acknowledge at BFO 252 BT0 18040

This is the U-Tapao.


The R channel usually seems to have a 2 ping variance with the location of the P Channel which is a distance of about 14kms to 15 kms I think.


Because we do not have more access to the data - we cannot at this stage say that the plane landed here or if it simply flew over - but it was there.


xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel

I remember the +service-ceiling altitude from somewhere, perhaps the Rolls Royce sat data stream. I've lost touch, has Rolls Royce recanted their statements about the MH370 data?
Radar data showed ascent to +45,000 then the engine data stream confirmed descent from +45,000.
 Quoting: uscrusader1




I don't know what is true and false data from Rolls Royce - all I know is that it has been reported that Rolls Royce said that the US had lied in saying h=they had more data from them - they hadn't added anything extra or released anything extra - and I am not familiar with the original release.

xx


I think under the circumstances, it makes no difference - any plane could have been taken over to be dumped if the plane was to make it look like the plane had had an accident - which seems to be what is implied through the Inmarsat satellite data - being as there are extra planes and tail number swaps going on.


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7/03/2014 15:41:52907 IOR—R1200—O—36ED IOR 305 4 R—Channel RX 0x22 — Access Request (R/T—Channel) 141 14940
7/03/2014 15:41:53405 IOR—P10500—O—3859 IOR 305 10 P—Channel TX 0x51 — T—Channel Assignment


this is contact between MAS OPS and a plane about 357kms north of KL - heading for KL practically on the same longitude as KL.

The plane covers the distance in 19 minutes.


This is about 660 miles per hour - giving and taking here and there - and without checking data - but which I looked at before - it is possible this is a passenger plane. Top speed is usually about 600mph I think and R channel pings for BFO have a difference of about 2... anyway - it was swapping tail numbers even then.


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Whoa! Good work OP. I appreciate you taking the time to share this information.
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Whoa! Good work OP. I appreciate you taking the time to share this information.
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I am sorry I am not that coherent - it is hard to find a way to show people how to work easily through all the data - it took me ages - but now I hope to show people how to read it easily and quickly.


Just remember BFO is how far north or south

BTO is east or west


P-Channel identifies the plane

T Channel identifies the tail it is using

R channel is communication between the plane and ground control

Because R channel can be communicating with three or more planes - then data can be coming in from all 3 beside the R Channel readings and coinciding with each other - making it confusing - but you will get the hang of it.


Plotting the points and times and channels is the best way to go.

I would suggest a professional first plots the P Channel then separately plots the T channel - then overlays the results.


xx


I have used KL as BFO 90 BTO 14900

I have used east Viet as BFO 273 BTO 51700


and used these measurements for all other measurements.


Someone else might be able to make this more accurate than I have done.


It worked out that BTO is 22.5km per 1000 pings

and BFO is 7kms per ping.


If you get distances in miles - do not forget to do the conversion so results are consistent.


xx


To be fair - I don't know what difference it makes now - it was obvious plane swapping and plane hiding.

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Whoa! Good work OP. I appreciate you taking the time to share this information.
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I am sorry I am not that coherent - it is hard to find a way to show people how to work easily through all the data - it took me ages - but now I hope to show people how to read it easily and quickly.


Just remember BFO is how far north or south

BTO is east or west


P-Channel identifies the plane

T Channel identifies the tail it is using

R channel is communication between the plane and ground control

Because R channel can be communicating with three or more planes - then data can be coming in from all 3 beside the R Channel readings and coinciding with each other - making it confusing - but you will get the hang of it.


Plotting the points and times and channels is the best way to go.

I would suggest a professional first plots the P Channel then separately plots the T channel - then overlays the results.


xx


I have used KL as BFO 90 BTO 14900

I have used east Viet as BFO 273 BTO 51700


and used these measurements for all other measurements.


Someone else might be able to make this more accurate than I have done.


It worked out that BTO is 22.5km per 1000 pings

and BFO is 7kms per ping.


If you get distances in miles - do not forget to do the conversion so results are consistent.


xx


To be fair - I don't know what difference it makes now - it was obvious plane swapping and plane hiding.

xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel



Also T channel is uniformly 5000 pings less than P channel - so for example a T channel reading of 10200 is the equivalent of a P channel reading of 5000 more so it is 15200.


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There are no tail numbers assigned to this plane at this time in the data.

My computer - the files are not opening as of today - but info on above thread page 1 and follow links - work includes errors in calcs and thinking and corrections - I apologise - will correct f anyone wants me to.

The 8.19am ping point is said to be the last from the plane - but the info is for at least three planes - potentially more when you look how often the tail numbers got switched between locations and P-terminals - P-terminals are the airplane terminals.

T-Channel is tail number assignment and can only be done by ATC - not by the plane or pilot.

R-Channel is ATC/ Radar.

This plane was a decoy plane for an operation of some sort.
...
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Uh...yeah! Of course "your computer -the files are not opening as of today!"

I hate to tell you this and I could be wrong as I've been out of the biz a while, but although the url line in your pics don't tell us any information about you, I'm pretty sure it indicates that they (specifically, that server) knows very intimatly everything about the system you accessed the information from, and it's route from server to you.

I really haven't the background to analyze the data that you have, although I notice that IOR-P600-0-36FC changes to IOR-P600-0-36F6 on the last record of your first pic, and IOR-P600-0-36FED on your second pic.

I would be interested in whether these readings could come from a very corrupted data channel, given the indication of incomplete handshake.

Definitely interesting material. You better back up everything you've got in some offline fashion.

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7/03/2014 15:41:52907 IOR—R1200—O—36ED IOR 305 4 R—Channel RX 0x22 — Access Request (R/T—Channel) 141 14940
7/03/2014 15:41:53405 IOR—P10500—O—3859 IOR 305 10 P—Channel TX 0x51 — T—Channel Assignment


this is contact between MAS OPS and a plane about 357kms north of KL - heading for KL practically on the same longitude as KL.

The plane covers the distance in 19 minutes.


This is about 660 miles per hour - giving and taking here and there - and without checking data - but which I looked at before - it is possible this is a passenger plane. Top speed is usually about 600mph I think and R channel pings for BFO have a difference of about 2... anyway - it was swapping tail numbers even then.


xx
 Quoting: redhouserebel



Oopsy - sorry - by midnight - this plane was still on its way to KL and had not arrived - it was still... 13 x 7 = 71 kms north


7/03/2014 16:00:13.406 IOR—R1200—0—36D3 IOR 305 8 R—Channel RX 0x15 — Log—on/Log—off Acknowledge 103 14820
7/03/2014 16:00:13.906 IOR—P10500—0—3859 IOR 305 10 P—Channel​ TX 0x15 — Log—on/Log—off Acknowledge



I knew my previous calcs put its flight speed as a passenger plane's one - should not work from memory and always double check data.


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Wow!

Thank you, op for posting all of this info.

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There are no tail numbers assigned to this plane at this time in the data.

My computer - the files are not opening as of today - but info on above thread page 1 and follow links - work includes errors in calcs and thinking and corrections - I apologise - will correct f anyone wants me to.

The 8.19am ping point is said to be the last from the plane - but the info is for at least three planes - potentially more when you look how often the tail numbers got switched between locations and P-terminals - P-terminals are the airplane terminals.

T-Channel is tail number assignment and can only be done by ATC - not by the plane or pilot.

R-Channel is ATC/ Radar.

This plane was a decoy plane for an operation of some sort.
...
 Quoting: redhouserebel


Uh...yeah! Of course "your computer -the files are not opening as of today!"

I hate to tell you this and I could be wrong as I've been out of the biz a while, but although the url line in your pics don't tell us any information about you, I'm pretty sure it indicates that they (specifically, that server) knows very intimatly everything about the system you accessed the information from, and it's route from server to you.

I really haven't the background to analyze the data that you have, although I notice that IOR-P600-0-36FC changes to IOR-P600-0-36F6 on the last record of your first pic, and IOR-P600-0-36FED on your second pic.

I would be interested in whether these readings could come from a very corrupted data channel, given the indication of incomplete handshake.

Definitely interesting material. You better back up everything you've got in some offline fashion.

aHEMagain
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My bold in the last line of the quote. He's right. Back it up.
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There are no tail numbers assigned to this plane at this time in the data.

My computer - the files are not opening as of today - but info on above thread page 1 and follow links - work includes errors in calcs and thinking and corrections - I apologise - will correct f anyone wants me to.

The 8.19am ping point is said to be the last from the plane - but the info is for at least three planes - potentially more when you look how often the tail numbers got switched between locations and P-terminals - P-terminals are the airplane terminals.

T-Channel is tail number assignment and can only be done by ATC - not by the plane or pilot.

R-Channel is ATC/ Radar.

This plane was a decoy plane for an operation of some sort.
...
 Quoting: redhouserebel


Uh...yeah! Of course "your computer -the files are not opening as of today!"

I hate to tell you this and I could be wrong as I've been out of the biz a while, but although the url line in your pics don't tell us any information about you, I'm pretty sure it indicates that they (specifically, that server) knows very intimatly everything about the system you accessed the information from, and it's route from server to you.

I really haven't the background to analyze the data that you have, although I notice that IOR-P600-0-36FC changes to IOR-P600-0-36F6 on the last record of your first pic, and IOR-P600-0-36FED on your second pic.

I would be interested in whether these readings could come from a very corrupted data channel, given the indication of incomplete handshake.

Definitely interesting material. You better back up everything you've got in some offline fashion.

aHEMagain
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This poster has deliberately altered data in his post: he has altered this: IOR-P600-0-36F6 - that number does not have a P - it has an R - and should read IOR-R600-0-36F6

He has made this number up completely: IOR-P600-0-36FED it does not appear in the data - he is trying to make me look more stupid than i make myself look on a good day and is trying to confuse people.


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Wow!

Thank you, op for posting all of this info.

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Thank you.


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Just for the record - I got all my data here

[link to www.dca.gov.my]


and here


[link to github.com (secure)]


more in these links in here


[link to github.com (secure)]



if the data is corrupt - then it is officially corrupt - don't listen tot he shill.


I have studied this data and I know what numbers there are and aren't.


Behave yourself.


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OP,
Are the steep ascent to high altitude and a flight path to Diego Garcia pertinent to this passenger aircraft?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



don't know where the steep ascent data came from.

There is no indicator in the official flight radar data of a steep ascent:

[link to uk.flightaware.com]


If the satellite data was read incorrectly then the 51700 BTO reading could have been mistakenly read as a steep ascent - I have outlined how this could happen on an adjoining linked thread.

Unless I know where this steep ascent is documented and how - I cannot fully comment.


There is a strong indication the planes pinging were going and coming to and from from U-Tapao in southern Thailand.


U-Tapao is a USAF BASE - used a bit like Guantanamo Bay in some ways some times - for terrorist suspects to be taken to and also as a flight transit point between Diego Garcia and elsewhere; it is known for this and also has a naval base. I posted map pics of at least one plane in this area - and others going to and from - the data strongly indicates plane transit of at least two planes travelling north into the Gulf of Thailand - though this info is cut from the data released by the Malaysian Government - it is still available online here:


[link to github.com (secure)]




If you look at the data here:

[link to www.dca.gov.my]


page 41


00.10.59.928 this is the time UTC so 8.10.59am in the morning of the 8th March


you will see the R channel for MAS OPS R1200-0-36ED doing a log on log off acknowledge at BFO 252 BT0 18040

This is the U-Tapao.


The R channel usually seems to have a 2 ping variance with the location of the P Channel which is a distance of about 14kms to 15 kms I think.


Because we do not have more access to the data - we cannot at this stage say that the plane landed here or if it simply flew over - but it was there.


xx
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I remember the +service-ceiling altitude from somewhere, perhaps the Rolls Royce sat data stream. I've lost touch, has Rolls Royce recanted their statements about the MH370 data?
Radar data showed ascent to +45,000 then the engine data stream confirmed descent from +45,000.
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I don't know what is true and false data from Rolls Royce - all I know is that it has been reported that Rolls Royce said that the US had lied in saying h=they had more data from them - they hadn't added anything extra or released anything extra - and I am not familiar with the original release.

xx


I think under the circumstances, it makes no difference - any plane could have been taken over to be dumped if the plane was to make it look like the plane had had an accident - which seems to be what is implied through the Inmarsat satellite data - being as there are extra planes and tail number swaps going on.


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I think that there are two phenomena causing anomalous aircraft events. One phenomena has the distinction of never having any bodies, body parts, clothing, jewelry, etc. recovered. For example MH370, AH5017, and an Air Force jet crash.

The other anomalous phenomena seems to involve an unusual, perhaps new atmospheric phenomena. This was hinted at over at airliners.net in relation to QZ8501. In these events, bodies are recovered, but impossibly rapid rates of accent and decent are reported by recovered and reported flight data.

The problem is there seems to me to be an attempt to obfuscate the one phenomena by implicating a relationship to the other. Since the sources of "evidence" in these cases is highly controlled we can't give it much credibility, but even disinfo is info.

It's just sorting things into the right piles becomes difficult when the "professionals" get to work hiding/revealing things.

Thanks for keeping an eye on this, OP. You never know when something's going to slip through the cracks.

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Get over it, this plane crashed.

In a deep ocean and will never be found.

Sorry, they don't need dead planes for their agenda.
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There are no tail numbers assigned to this plane at this time in the data.

My computer - the files are not opening as of today - but info on above thread page 1 and follow links - work includes errors in calcs and thinking and corrections - I apologise - will correct f anyone wants me to.

The 8.19am ping point is said to be the last from the plane - but the info is for at least three planes - potentially more when you look how often the tail numbers got switched between locations and P-terminals - P-terminals are the airplane terminals.

T-Channel is tail number assignment and can only be done by ATC - not by the plane or pilot.

R-Channel is ATC/ Radar.

This plane was a decoy plane for an operation of some sort.
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Uh...yeah! Of course "your computer -the files are not opening as of today!"

I hate to tell you this and I could be wrong as I've been out of the biz a while, but although the url line in your pics don't tell us any information about you, I'm pretty sure it indicates that they (specifically, that server) knows very intimatly everything about the system you accessed the information from, and it's route from server to you.

I really haven't the background to analyze the data that you have, although I notice that IOR-P600-0-36FC changes to IOR-P600-0-36F6 on the last record of your first pic, and IOR-P600-0-36FED on your second pic.

I would be interested in whether these readings could come from a very corrupted data channel, given the indication of incomplete handshake.

Definitely interesting material. You better back up everything you've got in some offline fashion.

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This poster has deliberately altered data in his post: he has altered this: IOR-P600-0-36F6 - that number does not have a P - it has an R - and should read IOR-R600-0-36F6

He has made this number up completely: IOR-P600-0-36FED it does not appear in the data - he is trying to make me look more stupid than i make myself look on a good day and is trying to confuse people.


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You are a piece of work.

I got the first part from your post and copied and pasted it, so I didn't notice the first part of the number was wrong.

The point is, the end is also wrong, which just shows that the last records highlighted in the red section doesn't match the rest of the records. They are your pictures, and you accuse me of being a shill?

Way to attack an ally, OP.

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Never trust a Brit that went to private school they're all psychopaths.
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I did not know that.

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Get over it, this plane crashed.

In a deep ocean and will never be found.

Sorry, they don't need dead planes for their agenda.
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Where did the bodies go on AH5017?

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There are no tail numbers assigned to this plane at this time in the data.

My computer - the files are not opening as of today - but info on above thread page 1 and follow links - work includes errors in calcs and thinking and corrections - I apologise - will correct f anyone wants me to.

The 8.19am ping point is said to be the last from the plane - but the info is for at least three planes - potentially more when you look how often the tail numbers got switched between locations and P-terminals - P-terminals are the airplane terminals.

T-Channel is tail number assignment and can only be done by ATC - not by the plane or pilot.

R-Channel is ATC/ Radar.

This plane was a decoy plane for an operation of some sort.
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Uh...yeah! Of course "your computer -the files are not opening as of today!"

I hate to tell you this and I could be wrong as I've been out of the biz a while, but although the url line in your pics don't tell us any information about you, I'm pretty sure it indicates that they (specifically, that server) knows very intimatly everything about the system you accessed the information from, and it's route from server to you.

I really haven't the background to analyze the data that you have, although I notice that IOR-P600-0-36FC changes to IOR-P600-0-36F6 on the last record of your first pic, and IOR-P600-0-36FED on your second pic.

I would be interested in whether these readings could come from a very corrupted data channel, given the indication of incomplete handshake.

Definitely interesting material. You better back up everything you've got in some offline fashion.

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This poster has deliberately altered data in his post: he has altered this: IOR-P600-0-36F6 - that number does not have a P - it has an R - and should read IOR-R600-0-36F6

He has made this number up completely: IOR-P600-0-36FED it does not appear in the data - he is trying to make me look more stupid than i make myself look on a good day and is trying to confuse people.


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You are a piece of work.

I got the first part from your post and copied and pasted it, so I didn't notice the first part of the number was wrong.

The point is, the end is also wrong, which just shows that the last records highlighted in the red section doesn't match the rest of the records. They are your pictures, and you accuse me of being a shill?

Way to attack an ally, OP.

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Post the pictures where i put this data!!!!!!!


You wrote those numbers out yourself in your post!!


As for the data thing you said in your post before this one - I really don't think Inmarsat or their shareholders would be very happy with your insinuation!!


Hmphh.

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I did not know that.

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Inmarsat is full of private schoolers all working for the Norman empire.
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i can see who you are referring to - I need a few more greens people - to upgrade to remove this sort of thing - have never removed before - but this is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate - muttley what I am saying which is true - by someone acting innocent like I am wrong - when I am wrong - I say I am wrong - he made up numbers and said he got them from a screenshot I posted - check everything yourselves people - every thing.



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Get over it, this plane crashed.

In a deep ocean and will never be found.

Sorry, they don't need dead planes for their agenda.
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Where did the bodies go on AH5017?

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If you want to start a thread about air algerie - feel free - its a big forum - big enough for both of us.


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Never trust a Brit that went to private school they're all psychopaths.
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I did not know that.

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Inmarsat is full of private schoolers all working for the Norman empire.
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Inmarsat have given us the data. Malaysia government released some of it.

Inmarsat have never had to recover this type of info before or had to try to analyse it before - I cannot see the dishonesty on their part here - just because the data was previously interpreted incorrectly - possibly then spread wrong all over the net by shills trying to distract from the truth in it.

Who are the Norman empire? chuckle
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Never trust a Brit that went to private school they're all psychopaths.
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i can see who you are referring to - I need a few more greens people - to upgrade to remove this sort of thing - have never removed before - but this is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate - muttley what I am saying which is true - by someone acting innocent like I am wrong - when I am wrong - I say I am wrong - he made up numbers and said he got them from a screenshot I posted - check everything yourselves people - every thing.



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Oh screw you. It's the two pictures in your OP, the last line INSIDE the red border doesn't match the rest on the list.

Here, you need to be upgraded to ban me from your thread? Fine.

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