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"We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200

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Don't know if anyone's mentioned, but YouTube has taken down those videos. I just watched them yesterday too.

Not long til they take down the private ones as well.

This is fucked up, and it's quite obvious it's being covered up.
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It appears that both Gabriel and Alisa changed their stories on September 17, saying that Abraham forced them to lie.

However in all of the previous interviews with the police, dated September 5 and 11, both Alisa and Gabriel confirm -- with considerable detail -- the ritual killings, sexual abuse and so on.

So both of these children changed their stories on the same date.

It's interesting to note that both Gabriel and Alisa are terrible liars. In the videos from September 17 they exhibit all of the hallmarks of a child who is coached or coerced into lying; e.g.., Gabriel fidgets nervously, he evades the questions, he gazes downward before answering, his body posture is guarded, and so on. These mannerisms were strangely absent in the previous videos where he spoke candidly and fluently about the abuse.

Furthermore Gabriel gives some very strange, inconsistent answers. When the interviewer asks him if Papa kills babies, Gabriel answers repeatedly, "Some, but not many." Minutes later he states that it's not true, Papa does not kill babies.

People really need to watch these videos and draw their own conclusions.
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Yes, I got the same impression. Something happened right before that dates, its obvious. The markings on the alleged abusers genitals that Gabriel describes would be the make or brake deal. They MUST investigate that!
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Once again I don't know what to believe because you people keep bringing up good points. This case is giving me psychosis.
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I do have one question that keeps bugging me...and it's the only thing that keeps me holding on to believe something else is going on...


Gabriel says in the last interview he never had a real willie or plastic willie up his butt and that Abraham kept telling him he did, but the doctors who examined him found bruising and anal scarring on his butt. What would cause that if it wasn't rape?
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It was weird the cop didn't ask.. But I think Abe raped him maybe disguised or something, or slipped him a roofie then raped him...

Anyone ever see the extremely dark comedy/satire movie called HAPPINESS? In it there's a pedo psychologist who has his 10 year old son have a friend sleep over, the doc drugs everybody in the house and the next day the kid doesn't remember anything but the doc confirms rape.. Maybe something like that happened.
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I do have one question that keeps bugging me...and it's the only thing that keeps me holding on to believe something else is going on...


Gabriel says in the last interview he never had a real willie or plastic willie up his butt and that Abraham kept telling him he did, but the doctors who examined him found bruising and anal scarring on his butt. What would cause that if it wasn't rape?
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constipation caused by the vegan diet Abe forced tham into. it can cause it if you read up about it.
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Sorry - when I say the police = I mean a former policeman friend of the family. I realise other police evidence will have been done at the police station.
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The "Sept 09 Cutting Heads Off" interview was with Finbar, who may be a retired police officer.
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I am trying to get some idea of the order of things here - so the mother hears about this from the children - she goes to the police - the children are formally interviewed - they come back to the mother - they are interviewed informally by a former policeman who is also a friend.

Then separately the boyfriend does some informal interviewing.


Then after a number of formal police interviews and time with social services - the story changes - and the children blame the boyfriend and say some things were not true but they had been instructed to say them by Abe?


If it is like this - then Abe knew he was in trouble when the mother Ella found out and went to the police - and has been running deliberate interference ever since - to the evidence.


Abe left the country first, right?
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From what I've read the children made their disclosures and most of the videos whilst on holiday in Morocco with their mother and Abraham Christie in August 2014 and were taken to speak to the police on Satuday 6th of September 2014. I believe Finbar recorded Alisa on the 9th of September as detailed in the 09 transcript.

Sabine Mcneil stated that the 'Mother and Partner had fled the country after 10 Police Officers arrived at the Mothers home to arrest her/them. The Mothers solicitor was there at the time (Do they do home visits? just asking!) and stalled the police at the door whilst the Mother and boyfriend made their escape and fled the country.'

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The kids are so incredibly detailed about all aspects of the cult, the sacrifices, the secret locks, the keys, the blood drinking, how difficult it is to cut the head off a baby, the layout of rooms, the kitchens where the cooking was done, how the babies were injected, how the blood was captured, the ritual vessels used, the exact number of skulls placed on each child, how much each child commanded (50 pounds) for prostitution, the various film crews filming the kids, the exact type of knife used to skin the babies.... the carving of ritual (cursed)objects with the baby bones, the feeding of accursed food to the other children in the school at lunch, which is often done by witches, and which is prohibited by Paul in the Bible.. The functions of different staff members in the coven... Their details were astounding, and it is just unbelievable to me that all of these details were coached by a boyfriend who did not even live in the home, and had no interest in reporting this to the police if he indeed had abused the kids.

I just think that they were coached/threatened to recant. This is very very common-- either that or they have very high IQs and imaginations--- or they were coached by MI5/6 for a psyop..

Its quite clear that very powerful people in Britain are condoning whats going on--- and that Heathrow airport is being used to import the sacrifice victims. The fingering of an insider at the airport implies a very high level of collusion.

The mother writes: (Facebook page now down)
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"I believe that most of the information my children have revealed is true.

"There is no way a child could create a story like that, with so many intricate details…

"It is out of the question that Mr Christie or me would coach the children to say things like that.
"Neither of us would ever put the children through this for whatever reason, and create such unbelievable situation for ourselves.

"Even supposedly we coached them to say this, the children of that age could not possibly repeat the same story all aver again to the different adults in different circumstances without hesitation or changing the details.

"Although we know that they have retracted their statements, the children still, even now keep coming back to the same story and the details, while in the foster care to the degree that it became unbearable for their caretaker Carol to look after them. She no longer wants to do this."
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I don't blame the foster mother Carol--- her life is probably in danger for taking care of these kids who will no doubt be terminated or totally reprogrammed---as soon as the heat on this story dies down. But I believe that God is protecting them.

The authorities are probably terrified that Carol will also document a retraction of the retraction. She is most likely being watched very carefully.

These poor kids are at the center of the whole British pedophilia satanic SCAM and they are being forced to say and BELIEVE that 2+2=5--- just like Winston Smith-- who ended up alive, but as a broken pile of reprogrammed mush.
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I do have one question that keeps bugging me...and it's the only thing that keeps me holding on to believe something else is going on...


Gabriel says in the last interview he never had a real willie or plastic willie up his butt and that Abraham kept telling him he did, but the doctors who examined him found bruising and anal scarring on his butt. What would cause that if it wasn't rape?
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Anal fissures/ scarring from fissures commonly caused by constipation.

This would make sense if a child is on a raw vegan diet that is too much fibre and they don't drink enough water - which kids generally don't.

Coupled with the stress that Abraham brought to the kids lives, i believe no matter what diet they were on would have induced stress-constipation.

I suffered with the same all through childhood due to violence and emotional abuse - i wasn't sodomised but i was constantly crying when trying to have a bowel movement due to severe constipation, there would often be blood too.
I was under a lot of stress.

The fact that both kids say they don't know what caused that and they confirmed no sodomy from the father took place, and Abe being extremely emotionally abusive, physically threatening to them, i imagine even today, these kids suffer from constipation due to all this manipulation and fear they're subjected to from MANY people.

Alisa spelled it out why this whole story was made up - Abe threatened to dig a hole, bury her in it and fill it with water.
As he had been the ONE used to kicking them in the genitals, while the mother watched, i'm sure Alisa believed Abe would kill her unless she lied to the police about their father.

Poor kids.

Now it makes sense why the mother fled the country when the court hearing was due.
NOW it makes sense why there's a warrant for her arrest.

An innocent mother does NOT run, however i believe Abe is manipulating her too - so maybe he's forcing her to run with him, yet she is still guilty of not protecting her children from him.

This case/thread proves to never ever take anything on face value - there are ALWAYS undercurrents of truth going on that are never initially revealed.

Luckily, make a child feel safe and protected and they'll spill the truth no matter who has forced them to lie for them.

We are left asking ourselves why did Abraham concoct this story and force the kids to tell it as fact?

Considering dad is obviously still in the kids life, is fairly successful, fairly good-looking, also is in the mother's good books as they own a business together - i personally sense that Abe is the product of an insecure ego.

We have others on FB saying how he was manipuative to his previous GF, then he hooks up with Ella and is manipuating who she speaks to.
He sounds like a control freak - probably acts like one, often with that comes physical violence, which the children testify.

I think he's jealous of their real dad, that's why he gets them to call him dad instead.

Don't forget, what we are guilty of ourselves we project onto others and often notice the same in others - it's interesting how some details from the original story from the kids - like the kicking the children in the genitals, is actually something ABE is guilty of NOT their real father.

Those children should not be with either parent until it's thoroughly investigated.
When the children feel truly safe, ALL the truth will come out.
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It appears that both Gabriel and Alisa changed their stories on September 17, saying that Abraham forced them to lie.

However in all of the previous interviews with the police, dated September 5 and 11, both Alisa and Gabriel confirm -- with considerable detail -- the ritual killings, sexual abuse and so on.

So both of these children changed their stories on the same date.

It's interesting to note that both Gabriel and Alisa are terrible liars. In the videos from September 17 they exhibit all of the hallmarks of a child who is coached or coerced into lying; e.g.., Gabriel fidgets nervously, he evades the questions, he gazes downward before answering, his body posture is guarded, and so on. These mannerisms were strangely absent in the previous videos where he spoke candidly and fluently about the abuse.

Furthermore Gabriel gives some very strange, inconsistent answers. When the interviewer asks him if Papa kills babies, Gabriel answers repeatedly, "Some, but not many." Minutes later he states that it's not true, Papa does not kill babies.

People really need to watch these videos and draw their own conclusions.
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Yes, I got the same impression. Something happened right before that dates, its obvious. The markings on the alleged abusers genitals that Gabriel describes would be the make or brake deal. They MUST investigate that!
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Once again I don't know what to believe because you people keep bringing up good points. This case is giving me psychosis.
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I agree!! My brains gong into melt down,

I will say though from personal experience I feel as though the children have retracted their statements in order to save themselves now. After all if S.S., Police etc. are all in on it the children are now isolated from all source of help, so they will say anything to appease the wrath of the abusers.
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It appears that both Gabriel and Alisa changed their stories on September 17, saying that Abraham forced them to lie.

However in all of the previous interviews with the police, dated September 5 and 11, both Alisa and Gabriel confirm -- with considerable detail -- the ritual killings, sexual abuse and so on.

So both of these children changed their stories on the same date.

It's interesting to note that both Gabriel and Alisa are terrible liars. In the videos from September 17 they exhibit all of the hallmarks of a child who is coached or coerced into lying; e.g.., Gabriel fidgets nervously, he evades the questions, he gazes downward before answering, his body posture is guarded, and so on. These mannerisms were strangely absent in the previous videos where he spoke candidly and fluently about the abuse.

Furthermore Gabriel gives some very strange, inconsistent answers. When the interviewer asks him if Papa kills babies, Gabriel answers repeatedly, "Some, but not many." Minutes later he states that it's not true, Papa does not kill babies.

People really need to watch these videos and draw their own conclusions.
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Yes, I got the same impression. Something happened right before that dates, its obvious. The markings on the alleged abusers genitals that Gabriel describes would be the make or brake deal. They MUST investigate that!
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Once again I don't know what to believe because you people keep bringing up good points. This case is giving me psychosis.
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Excellent points--- the children's descriptions of the coven were just so incredibly detailed--- right down to the EXACT amounts of money that were being made off each sexual encounter with a child... (50 british pounds) plus the movie filming for LOTS of money for these adults. At 30-60 customers per child on Wednesdays--- "someone" was raking in a nice amount of money--- plus proceeds from the filming.
No--- I just don't buy that it was the mother's boyfriend. What I don't understand though, is why the mother was romantically involved with 2 satanists--- both Draper her first husband, and Dearman, the children's father.

Is everyone in Hampstead, Britain a deceived satanic nutcase?
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I also read somewhere that Ricky showed up to the hearing, while Ella did not. I can't seem to find that evidence anywhere though.
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It appears that both Gabriel and Alisa changed their stories on September 17, saying that Abraham forced them to lie.

However in all of the previous interviews with the police, dated September 5 and 11, both Alisa and Gabriel confirm -- with considerable detail -- the ritual killings, sexual abuse and so on.

So both of these children changed their stories on the same date.

It's interesting to note that both Gabriel and Alisa are terrible liars. In the videos from September 17 they exhibit all of the hallmarks of a child who is coached or coerced into lying; e.g.., Gabriel fidgets nervously, he evades the questions, he gazes downward before answering, his body posture is guarded, and so on. These mannerisms were strangely absent in the previous videos where he spoke candidly and fluently about the abuse.

Furthermore Gabriel gives some very strange, inconsistent answers. When the interviewer asks him if Papa kills babies, Gabriel answers repeatedly, "Some, but not many." Minutes later he states that it's not true, Papa does not kill babies.

People really need to watch these videos and draw their own conclusions.
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Yes, I got the same impression. Something happened right before that dates, its obvious. The markings on the alleged abusers genitals that Gabriel describes would be the make or brake deal. They MUST investigate that!
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What if the children were told they would be able to go back home to their mum if they changed their story? They could also have been led to belive that the police were trying to trick RD by making him think they weren't after him anymore. The possibilities and opportunities for coercion are endless and highly likely.
Also people are saying the boyfriend 'poked' the boy in the face and are screaming abuser!! Personally, I didnt see it like that. Boyfriend was telling boy not to look at him but to look straight ahead at the camera for recording. When boy looked at side again it was a mere nudge with his fingers to get him to face front and centre - NOT some jab in the face.
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Yes like people have said - lots of possibilities - the boyfriend who has access to the mother - threatening the kids re their mother - making it easier for them to translate their actual "papa" into the boyfriend's position in the stories... ??? This would also explain why the children are not being returned to Ella - because of the boyf... ???
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Yes like people have said - lots of possibilities - the boyfriend who has access to the mother - threatening the kids re their mother - making it easier for them to translate their actual "papa" into the boyfriend's position in the stories... ??? This would also explain why the children are not being returned to Ella - because of the boyf... ???
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Yes..i'm leaning to that conclusion.

Interesting, the very last interview with Alisa - the question she asked the policeman - "what would happen to my mother and Abraham?" - the policemen said about speaking with the mother, but Alisa then asked "What about Abraham?" - She seemed to want to know especially what would happen to him.

Her very last words were telling the policemen that although Abraham doesn't live with the mother, he visits daily - he always has, and she knew if she went home to the mother, he would be visiting daily again.

She seemed reluctant to go home to her mother, because of Abraham.
She vocalised she wanted to be with Carol (foster carer) rather than be at home.

That tells us a lot.
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Re:It was weird the cop didn't ask.. But I think Abe raped him maybe disguised or something, or slipped him a roofie then raped him.

You are getting closer, but there’s more to come!!!!!!

Well you guys are now getting closer and you owe my children and myself, a HUGE apology!

The scare/mark on my daughters face was done along with a lot more things, in Morrocco, where the mother and boyfriend cannot be tried because it is outside the english laws etc, bf, took a spoon, heated it up on the gas to get it red hot and melted my daughters face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you know a little of why these Angels of mine had to say what they said, because they had been put through fear beyond imagination!

They retracted their stories once they were away from mother and boyfriend!!!!

I told you ALL, get these fcuks back in the UK and in court!

Many people, including myself have had death threats because of these monsters. They have used people from the past, babies, children etc, who have really suffered, making up these stories for their own purposes.

AND ABOUT 95% OF YOU HAVE, (can you believe it), actually helped mother and boyfriend and co’s who are fcuked up twisted people, to get a story out there to the masses, to accuse innocent people.

They have used you to become SHILLLLLLLLLSSSS! YEP that’s right. I tried warning you with several posts on YT,because legally I could not say, but all you did 95% of you were to only abuse me even more.

THIS WAS WHAT BOYFRIEND AND MOTHER WANTED AND YOU ALL FELL FOR IT!

It is of my opinion that you owe alot of people apologies and you have to rectify this by now getting this back out there and cut down as much damage as possible, but that is just my opinion, and that I will leave to you.
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what u on about?
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HEY GUYS

ACTUALLY WATCH THE 3RD POLICE INTERVIEW

Between 5:00 and 6:00 Gabriel confirms baby killing.

Police: "We talked in two other interviews before, didn't we?"

Gabriel: "Yeah."

P: "Was what you told me the truth?"

G: "Yeah."

P: "So all off that stuff about the babies.."

G: "Yeah."

P: "And the church and all that..."

G: "No... the babies he um... No... well there is some of the babies killed, yeah."

P: "Okay... are you sure?

G: "Yeah... but not much. Not every single day. Not every single day, like, killed... no."

Goes on to say his dad DOES kill babies, just "not much".

You know in British speaking being "made to say something" can also mean "being asked to talk about something" and not necessarily to lie.

I'm now seven minutes into final police interview and have yet to see this full retraction.
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What am i on about?

I am on about my children in these videos.

I am the father, go back and read what I have put.

This WHOLE craziness has been done for one thing and one thing only...

To stop the childrens contact with me.

I was going to court to be the main carer of the children, when, mother and boyfriend created this whole story to stop me from having the children.

That is it! That is what this is about! End of!
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What am i on about?

I am on about my children in these videos.

I am the father, go back and read what I have put.

This WHOLE craziness has been done for one thing and one thing only...

To stop the childrens contact with me.

I was going to court to be the main carer of the children, when, mother and boyfriend created this whole story to stop me from having the children.

That is it! That is what this is about! End of!
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Is it possible in your mind that your children's mother was not involved; that her boyfriend and this group wanted you both discredited to take your children - and she is manipulated by him????
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Mother is 100% involved!

I spent 5 years in Private court having allegation after allegation from her, with NEVER one bit of evidence.

I won every single court case, she breached every court order in the 5 years, she is a sick woman, period.

You may think, and quite rightly so, that I am just saying that to pull her down...but you have no idea.

At this moment in time, I will hold back because of legal reasons, but there is more to come!!! That is for sure.
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After watching all vids including police vids, it WAS THAT SICKO ABE, WHO POKES AND PRODS THEM TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS.... I'M NOT A SHILL I JUST WANT THE RIGHT PEOPLE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE-ABE AND ELLA WATCHED SRA VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE AND STOLE STORIES STRAIGHT FROM ARIZONA AND ILK...

SAVE THE KIDS=IMPRISON ABE NOW!
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the fact u had to say not a SHILL lool get the fuck out of here...the kids were detained by cops n social services nd their father for 5 days and THEN retracted their statements....gimme a fucking break you people are braindead
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Mother is 100% involved!

I spent 5 years in Private court having allegation after allegation from her, with NEVER one bit of evidence.

I won every single court case, she breached every court order in the 5 years, she is a sick woman, period.

You may think, and quite rightly so, that I am just saying that to pull her down...but you have no idea.

At this moment in time, I will hold back because of legal reasons, but there is more to come!!! That is for sure.
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no evidence eh? did anyone check those scumbag teachers for tattoos and piercings? wow the shills are out here working hard now to discredit this one....fuck u swine
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Mother is 100% involved!

I spent 5 years in Private court having allegation after allegation from her, with NEVER one bit of evidence.

I won every single court case, she breached every court order in the 5 years, she is a sick woman, period.

You may think, and quite rightly so, that I am just saying that to pull her down...but you have no idea.

At this moment in time, I will hold back because of legal reasons, but there is more to come!!! That is for sure.
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Have you been posting on this thread previously without saying who you are? Perhaps with friends of yours?

There are indeed a lot of shills - including someone starting a poll which didn't even list the boyfriend. Yes - I expect the truth will come out.

The thing about the spoons rings true to me - as i have heard of spoons involved in weirdo rituals before.

How do you feel about the allegations against the school? Do you feel this is all fabricated?

??
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IF THIS WAS REALLY A FUCKING HOAX AND MEANS TAKE THE KIDS FROM THEIR FATHER....THEY WOULDNT NEED SUCH AN ELABORATE CRAZY OVER THE TOP DETAILED STORY TO DO SO....
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Yes like people have said - lots of possibilities - the boyfriend who has access to the mother - threatening the kids re their mother - making it easier for them to translate their actual "papa" into the boyfriend's position in the stories... ??? This would also explain why the children are not being returned to Ella - because of the boyf... ???
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BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE BEING RETURNED TO THE MONSTERS TO CONTINUE THIS SHIT......IF THIS STORY GOES AWAY LIKE THEY ARE TRYING U WILL NEVER HEAR FROM NOR SEE THESE 2 CHILDREN AGAIN...AND YOU FAILED EVERY OTHER KID WHO WILL NOW SUFFER AT THE HANDS OF THESE SICK FUCKS....I LITERALLY HATE THIS BACKWARDS WORLD WERE STUCK IN
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Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200
Re:It was weird the cop didn't ask.. But I think Abe raped him maybe disguised or something, or slipped him a roofie then raped him.

You are getting closer, but there’s more to come!!!!!!

Well you guys are now getting closer and you owe my children and myself, a HUGE apology!

The scare/mark on my daughters face was done along with a lot more things, in Morrocco, where the mother and boyfriend cannot be tried because it is outside the english laws etc, bf, took a spoon, heated it up on the gas to get it red hot and melted my daughters face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you know a little of why these Angels of mine had to say what they said, because they had been put through fear beyond imagination!

They retracted their stories once they were away from mother and boyfriend!!!!

I told you ALL, get these fcuks back in the UK and in court!

Many people, including myself have had death threats because of these monsters. They have used people from the past, babies, children etc, who have really suffered, making up these stories for their own purposes.

AND ABOUT 95% OF YOU HAVE, (can you believe it), actually helped mother and boyfriend and co’s who are fcuked up twisted people, to get a story out there to the masses, to accuse innocent people.

They have used you to become SHILLLLLLLLLSSSS! YEP that’s right. I tried warning you with several posts on YT,because legally I could not say, but all you did 95% of you were to only abuse me even more.

THIS WAS WHAT BOYFRIEND AND MOTHER WANTED AND YOU ALL FELL FOR IT!

It is of my opinion that you owe alot of people apologies and you have to rectify this by now getting this back out there and cut down as much damage as possible, but that is just my opinion, and that I will leave to you.
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I believe you... Can INTERPOL or a bounty hunter (I know nothing of international child laws) get these sick people back in the UK? Can the lawyer be held responsible for stalling the cops?
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Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200
What am i on about?

I am on about my children in these videos.

I am the father, go back and read what I have put.

This WHOLE craziness has been done for one thing and one thing only...

To stop the childrens contact with me.

I was going to court to be the main carer of the children, when, mother and boyfriend created this whole story to stop me from having the children.

That is it! That is what this is about! End of!
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My father experienced a similar thing to you.

My mother's manipulation and her violent boyfriend managed to get full access of me and my younger brother (much the same age as your 2 kids are now)- and my father, who had a good job, nice house, nice neighbourhood etc wasn't given full access.

Instead full access was given to my mother, a known drunk, drug-addict and jobless without her own home.

The court knew this and STILL granted her full care of us kids, instead of my wonderful father.
That was the 80's - mother's had full rights even if they were incompetent in every way to care for children.

That court decision to give access to my mother lead to a lot of violence, abuse, and attempted murder.

I hope your kids are protected from further manipulation and your innocence in this awful story gets a chance to also be recognised.

I think everyone has been so outraged by this, due to knowing that kids should not be subjected to this stuff, whether true or not, it should not happen.
Pedophilia happens a lot and IS covered up.
People on this site are very aware of cover-ups.
They always had the care of your children in their hearts - even if blame, in this case, was mis-directed.

Innocent until proven guilty is something that is slipping socially, criminally, politically.
We have a judicial system for a reason and sadly, social internet encourages everyone to be judge and juror.
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What am i on about?

I am on about my children in these videos.

I am the father, go back and read what I have put.

This WHOLE craziness has been done for one thing and one thing only...

To stop the childrens contact with me.

I was going to court to be the main carer of the children, when, mother and boyfriend created this whole story to stop me from having the children.

That is it! That is what this is about! End of!
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so, r u a Barry Manilow fan?
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Mother is 100% involved!

I spent 5 years in Private court having allegation after allegation from her, with NEVER one bit of evidence.

I won every single court case, she breached every court order in the 5 years, she is a sick woman, period.

You may think, and quite rightly so, that I am just saying that to pull her down...but you have no idea.

At this moment in time, I will hold back because of legal reasons, but there is more to come!!! That is for sure.
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what u on about?
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Re: "We dance with the skulls in the church" The Most Disturbing Video You Will Ever Watch!!! Court Decision to be Released TODAY pg. 200
Re:Have you been posting on this thread previously without saying who you are? Perhaps with friends of yours?

There are indeed a lot of shills - including someone starting a poll which didn't even list the boyfriend. Yes - I expect the truth will come out.

The thing about the spoons rings true to me - as i have heard of spoons involved in weirdo rituals before.

How do you feel about the allegations against the school? Do you feel this is all fabricated?

??

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No i have not been posting here.

I tried posting once, but i think it did not get posted?

The spoons is an interesting, and here’s why (and this will be all i will say on this for now), boyfriend has been convicted and in prision about 40 times for drug dealing, (more on this to come!!!!) arms, (guns, shot guns etc) and domestic violence, get this....hitting his own children over the head with metal spoons (this is apparently called licks), well 2 small people who i know dearly had the same done while in Morrocco, splitting their heads open!!!! Yes mother was there also....and a whole lot more went on!

Regards to the school, won’t go into detail because i cannot as in proof right now, but NO, nobody is involved with this.

Let me say that again...NO ONE! They have used you. This was all planned, by who and from when and how, this is not for now.


And guys, go ahead, call me a shill, fake...more and more will come out. In fact it ALL will :)





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