Reality is not the way you want people to believe things are, reality is the way they are. And the reality is Apollo was a hoax and you're a professional liar promulgating that hoax with subterfuge.
Quoting: IDW 69027062 The reality is, that you - after more than 20 pages, where you provided nothing than hand waving, insults, of topic posts, derailing and not a single calculation to prove your stand - still don't get the topic of this thread.
The topic of this thread is
NOT if the moon landings are a hoax or not.
The topic of this post is the hypothetical question, if "the astronauts and / or their film cameras could not have survived the extremes of temperature on the Moon".Yes, it is, and very post that debunks his nonsense is removed.
Total bullshit. All you have ever posted is handwaving waffle, spammed posts, abusive posts and post that illustrate your jaw dropping ignorance of science.
He has removed A PDF from Kodak explaining the effects of heat on film, amongst other things,
Quoting: IDW 69027062 More obvious lies from the fantasist loser. That pdf, the original post and my reply are all still there.
Im afraid i cant help you there most photographers would protect any un processed film with cool bags while on set.
There are some very tight temp measurement to processing film but im unsure if these temps would effect the film before.
At the end of the day the substrate of the film is a thin piece of plastic.
Heat cant be a good thing in any measure.
...snip... Specific storage instructions for each
product are printed on the package, but here are a few
general principles to keep in mind:
[
link to www.kodak.com]
Thanks for that. I have seen some crazy high temperatures being quoted for the temperatures that the Ektachrome ester base warps or shrinks at. I think the emulsions would give up long before then, but I can't find any definitive temperature, just the idea that prolonged high temperature leads to red cast in the developed prints.
K
as well as several links explaining the effects of a vacuum on chemicals used in photography that together both essentially prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the apollo photography was faked in it's entirety.
So yeah, I've proved it was impossible and he knows it was, thus the deletions of technical information under the pretext of removing "spam", as he calls the truth..
Quoting: IDW 69027062 You have posted nothing about the testing of Kodak film stock with respect to varying atmospheric pressure environments and if you had.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OFF TOPIC YOU MORONFirst post
againThere is enough to think about here with the thermal questions without delving into questions about ionising radiation or shadows angles etc. so I will leave that to other threads. I just want to be able to answer the question "Is it feasible that the Apollo astronauts and their film cameras could have survived the thermal environment on the Moon ?"
Quoting: K Hall You want to talk about the effects of pressure? Fuck off to another thread then. If you are so fond of Kodak data here is what they say.
"Can the film be used in a vacuum? If exposed to a vacuum or very low atmospheric pressure would vital components of the emulsion bleed off?
Eastman Kodak camera films are regularly used by the NASA space program to document key events in space exploration. Care is taken to ensure that the camera mechanisms perform adequately under extreme conditions,
but the photographic emulsions are not affected under a vacuum or low atmosphere."
[
link to www.kodak.com]
Now, as for the human aspect of it, we will never know whether Apollo astronauts could have survived the thermal environment on the moon because we simply have zero vetted details concerning ANY of the critical variables involved. We don't know how much water they supposedly had, we don't know how fast a suits sublimation plate could remove heat, little details like that
Quoting: IDW 69027062 You don't know because you can't work through the numbers, but I can. For someone who claims to have been doing this for 20 years you are unbelievably ignorant of all the published documents. I have only been doing this for a couple of months and I have found alpha and epsilon values of the materials, that you never knew about [
link to webserver.dmt.upm.es] engineering drawings from the pre J series LM
Thread: Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28 (Page 23) that you said you had never seen before, then claimed that I had deleted, another lie. Picture of the sublimator vents [
link to www.de-la-terre-a-la-lune.com] , [
link to nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov] that you had never seen. Water load levels
Thread: Would the Apollo Moon astronauts have been frozen then cooked like chicken-in-a-bag - One Star Warrior unveiled - page 28 (Page 26) that you have never bothered to look for. Diagrams and descriptions of MLI, sublimator exhaust temperatures, electrical loads in the suit, battery capacities and countless other examples because you are not a scientist, you are not an engineer, you are a sad attention starved fantasist bullshiter who has invented an imaginary world where they are a "warrior" or "astrophysicist". Now take a hint and follow your own advice "I am finished here", "Nobody gives a shit what you have to say" and fuck off for good.
K
