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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65267488 ![]() 02/12/2015 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I make Chicken soup I use some of the Chicken fat to cook the onion, carrot and celery. It eventually floats on top of the soup and you can see some of it stirring into the soup. It adds an amazing flavor and your not using alot. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50696983 ![]() 02/12/2015 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I make Chicken soup I use some of the Chicken fat to cook the onion, carrot and celery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488 It eventually floats on top of the soup and you can see some of it stirring into the soup. It adds an amazing flavor and your not using alot. Make your broth right in the roasting pan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65267488 ![]() 02/12/2015 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I make Chicken soup I use some of the Chicken fat to cook the onion, carrot and celery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488 It eventually floats on top of the soup and you can see some of it stirring into the soup. It adds an amazing flavor and your not using alot. Make your broth right in the roasting pan Sometimes I make a broth from a roasted chicken. But the better way to do it is to make Chicken Stock. Its easy you just take bones and some mirepox and put it in a large stock pot. I usually use rib bones after cutting the breast off them for a meal. Save up some bones in the freeze till you have enough for a batch of stock. 8 to 12 rib bones will make enough stock for 6 quarts of soup. Cover the bones and veggies with water and let simmer 8 to 10 hours. Then strain it and cool. The fat will float to the top of the stock and form a raft of pure yellow chicken fat. Take the fat plug off the stock and you can use some of it to saute the soup veggies later. The stock itself should be gelatinous. That is the sign of a good healthy soup stock. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2387063 ![]() 02/12/2015 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeh, man, I don't starve myself - I eat a shitload of the stuff with some bread here and there. I'll start eating some alternative and healthy protein sources soon, too. That's another thing... starving yourself just causes you to start eating crap again, then you're back to square one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65267488 ![]() 02/12/2015 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beef Orzo soup made from a roasted prime rib is another favorite. Chop up some more mirepox and roast a beef rib on it in the oven. Then deglaze the roasting pan to make a Jus. If you let this Jus settle out and cool it will form a fat layer just like the Chicken does. Use that beef fat to saute veggies for your beef and orzo or barley soup. It will also float on top of the soup but when you take a spoonful of broth you get little circles of the fat in each spoon that coats your mouth and its amazing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50696983 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I make Chicken soup I use some of the Chicken fat to cook the onion, carrot and celery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488 It eventually floats on top of the soup and you can see some of it stirring into the soup. It adds an amazing flavor and your not using alot. Make your broth right in the roasting pan Sometimes I make a broth from a roasted chicken. But the better way to do it is to make Chicken Stock. Its easy you just take bones and some mirepox and put it in a large stock pot. I usually use rib bones after cutting the breast off them for a meal. Save up some bones in the freeze till you have enough for a batch of stock. 8 to 12 rib bones will make enough stock for 6 quarts of soup. Cover the bones and veggies with water and let simmer 8 to 10 hours. Then strain it and cool. The fat will float to the top of the stock and form a raft of pure yellow chicken fat. Take the fat plug off the stock and you can use some of it to saute the soup veggies later. The stock itself should be gelatinous. That is the sign of a good healthy soup stock. Good tips but I can't bring myself to boil meat. This seems like a waste of potential to me. I just roast off a chicken with the maripoix and neck fat trimmings, pull the chicken to rest, then assemble veg to go with the bones. Onion skins- darker broth |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67747954 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am vegetarian, former vegan, so I do have some milk, butter, and eggs .... organic, as needed and try for moderation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65590611 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friend was a vegeterian. He said that humans eating meat was not natural. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57192921 My friend died a few years ago. He was killed by a mountain lion while on a hike. The mountain lion ate half of him. that's because there were no veggies to eat the rest with smart mountain lion |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63265972 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | animal fat is one of the most nutritious things your body needs. humans have been eating animal fat as a nutrition and energy source for 100,000 generations. not 100,000 years but 100,000 generations of living i eat loads of meat, butter, coconut oil, fish oil and im ripped, jacked and full of energy good job on losing brain matter, muscle and fat on your vegetarian diet if your fat ass would follow a strict organic paleo diet with no grains, you would be ripped in a month |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63265972 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | vegetarians/vegans are literally some of the dumbest fuckers out there The Saturated Fat Myth The myth that saturated fat causes heart disease has undoubtedly harmed an incalculable number of lives over the past several decades. While it may have begun as an unsupported marketing strategy for Crisco, this mistaken belief began solidifying in the mid-1950's when Dr. Ancel Keys published a paper comparing saturated fat intake and heart disease mortality. Keys based his theory on a study of six countries, in which higher saturated fat intake equated to higher rates of heart disease. However, he conveniently ignored data from 16 other countries that did not fit his theory. Had he chosen a different set of countries, the data would have shown that increasing the percent of calories from fat reduces the number of deaths from coronary heart disease. And, if all 22 countries for which data was available at the time of his study are included, you find that those who consume the highest percentage of saturated fat have the lowest risk of heart disease. Unfortunately, the idea that saturated fat is bad for your heart has become so ingrained in the medical and health community that it's very difficult to break through that misinformation barrier. Still, the fact of the matter is that the saturated fat-heart disease link was a hypothesis that did not stand up to further scrutiny. Gary Taubes discussed this lack of evidence in an interview I did with him last year. Less Saturated Fat in Your Diet = Higher Risk of Heart Disease Since the introduction of low-fat foods, heart disease rates have progressively climbed, even as studies kept debunking Keys research—repeatedly finding that saturated fats in fact support heart health. For example: A meta-analysis published two years agoii, which pooled data from 21 studies and included nearly 348,000 adults, found no difference in the risks of heart disease and stroke between people with the lowest and highest intakes of saturated fat. In a 1992 editorial published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, Dr. William Castelli, a former director of the Framingham Heart study, statediii: "In Framingham, Mass., the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower the person's serum cholesterol. The opposite of what… Keys et al would predict…We found that the people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, weighed the least and were the most physically active." Another 2010 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that a reduction in saturated fat intake must be evaluated in the context of replacement by other macronutrients, such as carbohydratesiv. When you replace saturated fat with a higher carbohydrate intake, particularly refined carbohydrate, you exacerbate insulin resistance and obesity, increase triglycerides and small LDL particles, and reduce beneficial HDL cholesterol. The authors state that dietary efforts to improve your cardiovascular disease risk should primarily emphasize the limitation of refined carbohydrate intake, and weight reduction. The Cholesterol Myth Another example of tragically incorrect diet advice is the idea that dietary cholesterol is bad for your heart. Just as the saturated fat myth created an entire industry of harmful low-fat products, the cholesterol myth has given rise to a similar industry of highly processed fake foods posing as healthier alternatives. Take Egg Beaters for example. Introduced in 1972, Egg Beaters has been hailed as a healthy substitute for whole chicken eggs. It basically contains egg whites with added flavorings, vitamins and gum thickeners, providing you with no or low saturated fat and cholesterol, and fewer calories than regular eggs. This is a tragedy, considering how nutritious whole eggs are—provided they're from organically raised free-ranging hens. For example, egg yolks have one of the highest concentrations of biotin found in nature. So for 40 years, many Americans have deprived themselves of one of the most nutritious foods on the planet, while epidemiological studies repeatedly show that dietary cholesterol is not related to coronary heart disease incidence or mortality, so there's no reason to fear eggs! Your Body NEEDS Saturated Fat But let's get back to the issue of saturated fats versus trans fats found in Crisco and other vegetable oils. Foods containing saturated fats include: Meat Dairy products Tropical oils like coconut and palm oil These (saturated) fats from animal and vegetable sources provide a concentrated source of energy in your diet, and they provide the building blocks for cell membranes and a variety of hormones and hormone-like substances. When eaten as part of your meal, they increase satiety by slowing down absorption. In addition, they act as carriers for important fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K. Dietary fats are also needed for the conversion of carotene to vitamin A, for mineral absorption, and for a host of other biological processes. Saturated fats are the preferred fuel for your heart, and are also used as a source of fuel during energy expenditure. Furthermore, saturated fats: Provide building blocks for cell membranes, hormones, and hormone-like substances Act as carriers for important fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K Are required for the conversion of carotene to vitamin A, and for mineral absorption Act as antiviral agents (caprylic acid) Help lower cholesterol levels (palmitic and stearic acids) Modulate genetic regulation and help prevent cancer (butyric acid) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeh, man, I don't starve myself - I eat a shitload of the stuff with some bread here and there. I'll start eating some alternative and healthy protein sources soon, too. That's another thing... starving yourself just causes you to start eating crap again, then you're back to square one. I just think you are eating less calories and that is why you are losing weight. But eating vegetable is good so keep doing that. Be careful you don't get B12 deficient and that can only come through animal products. And do not eat soy protein since you will take in too much estrogen. Not good at all. At least eat some eggs and fish. Take probiotics as well such as kefir. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friend was a vegeterian. He said that humans eating meat was not natural. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57192921 My friend died a few years ago. He was killed by a mountain lion while on a hike. The mountain lion ate half of him. Wow. Just shows that in order to live a healthy life something must die. That is how nature works. Tragic that it was him who was on the menu. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65267488 ![]() 02/12/2015 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I make Chicken soup I use some of the Chicken fat to cook the onion, carrot and celery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65267488 It eventually floats on top of the soup and you can see some of it stirring into the soup. It adds an amazing flavor and your not using alot. Make your broth right in the roasting pan Sometimes I make a broth from a roasted chicken. But the better way to do it is to make Chicken Stock. Its easy you just take bones and some mirepox and put it in a large stock pot. I usually use rib bones after cutting the breast off them for a meal. Save up some bones in the freeze till you have enough for a batch of stock. 8 to 12 rib bones will make enough stock for 6 quarts of soup. Cover the bones and veggies with water and let simmer 8 to 10 hours. Then strain it and cool. The fat will float to the top of the stock and form a raft of pure yellow chicken fat. Take the fat plug off the stock and you can use some of it to saute the soup veggies later. The stock itself should be gelatinous. That is the sign of a good healthy soup stock. Good tips but I can't bring myself to boil meat. This seems like a waste of potential to me. I just roast off a chicken with the maripoix and neck fat trimmings, pull the chicken to rest, then assemble veg to go with the bones. Onion skins- darker broth You dont boil any meat, just the Bones and carcass left over. They sell chicken breast and rib meat on the bones. You buy that and cut the breast meat off. And you also get a piece of rib meat, which is a chicken tenderloin. You make chicken fingers with those. Then use the Breast meat for something else. And you have rib bone and skin left over. you take that scrap bone and skin which has the fat and you make stock from that with the veggie and water. So its not a waste, its actually using all of the animal. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33893629 ![]() 02/12/2015 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm the OP. I don't have any special recipes per se... others on here will probably have much better suggestions. I only started doing this about a month ago (not specifically for weight loss purposes), yet this has been a very positive side-effect of merely cutting out saturated fats and processed sugary foods / drinks. The base ingredients of the soups I have been making (to pad them out) are lots of lentils or split-peas, then I add sliced carrots, leeks, onions. I find that the leek really adds flavouring to the soups. Maybe some people on here are correct that I am depriving my body of essential B vitamin sources and other essential fats, BUT I really needed to lose the surplus fat anyway, so as a weight loss solution it is the only eating plan that has benefited me so greatly so far. When I'm down to my ideal weight I'll likely start adding some essential fats. I'll probably start adding non-meat proteins in the ear future also. I'm no nutritional expert, but from my experience, the reason I always reverted back to eating crap is because it tasted so good. The thought of eating bland lettuce leaves on salads just made me balk, but I was surprised to find that you can actually flavour healthy foods and make them taste so nice that you will love eating them. No wonder there is an obesity epidemic when junk food / drink is made to taste so good, that it becomes addictive. Oh and another thing; don't starve yourself. I tried starving myself a number of times in the past, but it just caused fat retention and i looked and felt like garbage (my hair started falling out too). This is why I make a huge pot of soup each day so I consume a decent amount of calories throughout the day. |
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