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Amazing Story? Grand Canyon Cave from 1909

 
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THE PHOENIX GAZETTE of April 5th, 1909 - Explorations in the Grand Canyon







Mysteries of Immense Rich Cavern being brought to light.

Jordan is enthused Remarkable finds indicate ancient people migrated from Orient.

The latest news of the progress of the explorations of what is now regarded by scientists as not only the oldest archeological discovery in the United States, but one of the most valuable in the world, which was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette, was brought to the city yesterday by G.E. Kinkaid, the explorer who found the great underground citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip from Green River, Wyoming, down the Colorado, in a wooden boat, to Yuma, several months ago.

According to the story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the archaelogists of the Smithsonian Institute, which is financing the expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back to Ramses. If their theories are borne out by the translation of the tablets engraved with heiroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence they came, will be solved. Egypt and the Nile, and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist.

A Thorough Examination .

Under the direction of Prof. S. A. Jordan, the Smithsonian Institute is now prosecuting the most thorough explorations, which will be continued until the last link in the chain is forged. Nearly a mile underground, about 1480 feet below the surface, the long main passage has been delved into, to find another mammoth chamber from which radiates scores of passageways, like the spokes of a wheel.

Several hundred rooms have been discovered, reached by passageways running from the main passage, one of them having been explored for 854 feet and another 634 feet. The recent finds include articles which have never been known as native to this country, and doubtless they had their origin in the orient. War weapons, copper instruments, sharp-edged and hard as steel, indicate the high state of civilization reached by these strange people. So interested have the scientists become that preparations are being made to equip the camp for extensive studies, and the force will be increased to thirty or forty persons.

"Before going further into the cavern, better facilities for lighting will have to be installed, for the darkness is dense and quite impenetrable for the average flashlight. In order to avoid being lost, wires are being strung from the entrance to all passageways leading directly to large chambers.

How far this cavern extends no one can guess, but it is now the belief of many that what has already been explored is merely the "barracks", to use an American term, for the soldiers, and that far into the under-world will be found the main communal dwellings of the families. The perfect ventilation of the cavern, the steady draught that blows through, indicates that it has another outlet to the surface.

Mr. Kinkaid's Report:

Mr. Kinkaid was the first white child born in Idaho and has been an explorer and hunter all his life, thirty years having been in the service of the Smithsonian Institute. Even briefly recounted, his history sounds fabulous, almost grotesque.

"First, I would impress that the cavern is nearly inaccessible. The entrance is 1,486 feet down the sheer canyon wall. It is located on government land and no visitor will be allowed there under penalty of trespass. The scientists wish to work unmolested, without fear of archeological discoveries being disturbed by curio or relic hunters. A trip there would be fruitless, and the visitor would be sent on his way. The story of how I found the cavern has been related, but in a paragraph: I was journeying down the Colorado river in a boat, alone, looking for mineral. Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon, I saw on the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the river bed. There was no trail to this point, but I finally reached it with great difficulty. Above a shelf which hid it from view from the river, was the mouth of the cave. There are steps leading from this entrance some thirty yards to what was, at the time the cavern was inhabited, the level of the river. When I saw the chisel marks on the wall inside the entrance, I became interested, securing my gun and went in. During that trip I went back several hundred feet along the main passage till I came to the crypt in which I discovered the mummies. One of these I stood up and photographed by flashlight. I gathered a number of relics, which I carried down the Colorado to Yuma, from whence I shipped them to Washington with details of the discovery. Following this, the explorations were undertaken.

The Passages:

"The main passageway is about 12 feet wide, narrowing to nine feet toward the farther end. About 57 feet from the entrance, the first side- passages branch off to the right and left, along which, on both sides, are a number of rooms about the size of ordinary living rooms of today, though some are 30 by 40 feet square. These are entered by oval-shaped doors and are ventilated by round air spaces through the walls into the passages. The walls are about three feet six inches in thickness.

The passages are chiseled or hewn as straight as could be laid out by an engineer. The ceilings of many of the rooms converge to a center. The side- passages near the entrance run at a sharp angle from the main hall, but toward the rear they gradually reach a right angle in direction.

The Shrine:

"Over a hundred feet from the entrance is the cross-hall, several hundred feet long, in which are found the idol, or image, of the people's god, sitting cross-legged, with a lotus flower or lily in each hand. The cast of the face is oriental, and the carving this cavern. The idol almost resembles Buddha, though the scientists are not certain as to what religious worship it represents. Taking into consideration everything found thus far, it is possible that this worship most resembles the ancient people of Tibet.

Surrounding this idol are smaller images, some very beautiful in form; others crooked-necked and distorted shapes, symbolical, probably, of good and evil. There are two large cactus with protruding arms, one on each side of the dais on which the god squats. All this is carved out of hard rock resembling marble. In the opposite corner of this cross-hall were found tools of all descriptions, made of copper. These people undoubtedly knew the lost art of hardening this metal, which has been sought by chemicals for centureis without result. On a bench running around the workroom was some charcoal and other material probably used in the process. There is also slag and stuff similar to matte, showing that these ancients smelted ores, but so far no trace of where or how this was done has been discovered, nor the origin of the ore.

"Among the other finds are vases or urns and cups of copper and gold, made very artistic in design. The pottery work includes enameled ware and glazed vessels. Another passageway leads to granaries such as are found in the oriental temples. They contain seeds of varous kinds. One very large storehouse has not yet been entered, as it is twelve feet high and can be reached only from above. Two copper hooks extend on the edge, which indicates that some sort of ladder was attached. These granaries are rounded, as the materials of which they are constructed, I think, is a ver hard cement. A gray metal is also found in this cavern, which puzzles the scientists, for its identity has not been established. It resembles platinum. Strewn promiscuously over the floor everywhere are what people call "cats eyse', a yellow stone of no great value. Each one is engraved with the head of the Malay type.

The Hieroglyphics:

[Jack's Corrected Version] "On all the urns, or walls over doorways, and tablets of stone which were found by the image are the mysterious hieroglyphics, the key to which the Smithsonian Institute hopes yet to discover. These writings resemble those on the rocks about this valley. The engraving on the tablets probably has something to do with the religion of the people. Similar hieroglyphics have been found in the penninsula of the Yucatan, but these are not the same as those found in the Orient. Some believe these cave dwellers built the old canals in the Salt River valley. Among the pictorial writings, only two animals are found. One is of prehistoric type."

The Crypt:

"The tomb or crypt in which the mummies were found is one of the largest of the chambers, the walls slanting back at an angle of about 35 degrees. On these are tiers of mummies, each one occupying a separate hewn shelf. At the head of each is a small bench, on which is found copper cups and pieces of broken swords. Some of the mummies are covered with clay, and all are wrapped in a bark fabric.

The urns or cups on the lower tiers are crude, while as the higher shelves are reached, the urns are finer in design, showing a later stage of civilization. It is worthy of note that all the mummies examined so far have proved to be male, no children or females being buried here. This leads to the belief that this exterior section was the warriors' barracks.

"Among the discoveries no bones of animals have been found, no skins, no clothing, no bedding. Many of the rooms are bare but for water vessels. One room, about 40 by 700 feet, was probably the main dining hall, for cooking utensils are found here. What these people lived on is a problem, though it is presumed that they came south in the winter and farmed in the valleys, going back north in the summer.

Upwards of 50,000 people could have lived in the caverns comfortably. One theory is that the present Indian tribes found in Arizona are descendants of the serfs or slaves of the people which inhabited the cave. Undoubtedly a good many thousands of years before the Christian era, a people lived here which reached a high stage of civilization. The chronology of human history is full of gaps. Professor Jordan is much enthused over the discoveries and believes that the find will prove of incalculable value in archeological work.

"One thing I have not spoken of, may be of interest. There is one chamber of the passageway to which is not ventilated, and when we approached it a deadly, snaky smell struck us. Our light would not penetrate the gloom, and until stronger ones are available we will not know what the chamber contains. Some say snakes, but other boo-hoo this idea and think it may contain a deadly gas or chemicals used by the ancients. No sounds are heard, but it smells snaky just the same. The whole underground installation gives one of shaky nerves the creeps. The gloom is like a weight on one's shoulders, and our flashlights and candles only make the darkness blacker. Imagination can revel in conjectures and ungodly daydreams back through the ages that have elapsed till the mind reels dizzily in space."

An Indian Legend:

In connection with this story, it is notable that among the Hopi Indians the tradition is told that their ancestors once lived in an underworld in the Grand Canyon till dissension arose between the good and the bad, the people of one heart and the people of two hearts. Machetto, who was their chief, counseled them to leave the underworld, but there was no way out. The chief then caused a tree to grow up and pierce the roof of the underworld, and then the people of one heart climbed out. They tarried by Paisisvai (Red River), which is the Colorado, and grew grain and corn.

They sent out a message to the Temple of the Sun, asking the blessing of peace, good will and rain for people of one heart. That messenger never returned, but today at the Hopi villages at sundown can be seen the old men of the tribe out on the housetops gazing toward the sun, looking for the messenger. When he returns, their lands and ancient dwelling place will be restored to them. That is the tradition.

Among the engravings of animals in the cave is seen the image of a heart over the spot where it is located. The legend was learned by W.E. Rollins, the artist, during a year spent with the Hopi Indians.

There are two theories of the origin of the Egyptians. One is that they came from Asia; another that the racial cradle was in the upper Nile region. Heeren, an Egyptologist, believed in the Indian origin of the Egyptians. The discoveries in the Grand Canyon may throw further light on human evolution and prehistoric ages.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
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I had read this years ago and some other stories about other ancients in other caves and more mummies,some in sarcophagi and it seems,but unverified by me,that the story goes that the Smithsonia denies information relating to these and that certain artifacts are unacknowledged or have "gone missing"!
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[link to www.ancientamerican.com]
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it's bullshit, of course. otherwise, why would no one since have been able to find it?
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so many conflicting conspiracy theories, so little evidence of any.
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it's bullshit, of course. otherwise, why would no one since have been able to find it?
 Quoting: know_one


I have read of this cave before with less detail.

It's under armed guard.

Nobody goes there without authorization.

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Several years ago I spent two weeks trying to track down the names and places mentioned. I even bought a special topo map of the Grand Canyon and the National Geographic Map.

I reached the conclusion that it was a newspaper "fill" story and was fiction.
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Why the armed guards? I can understand to prevent looting but what is it? To prevent the current pardigm of creationism and the European way?
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It was covered up when they found the contents of the cave contained a unknown humanoid species. Skeletons found were far larger than that of the largest men.
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I worked for the Hopi Govt for a few years and spent a lot of time in that part of AZ. There are caves on the rim of the GC. You rapell off the cliff rim and drop down 100-200 ft, where you can gain access to the entrances. The Park service has them blocked off with Bat gates though. A few years back someone was trying to get a permit to do some exploration of them, don't know what happened. I believe some of the cave location show up on the 1:24K topo maps.
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Ive visited Navajo/Hopi land and done alot of grave repatriation vs. the US government...I heard about the veracity of this site from many old, old people and it is the "area 51" of the Indian nations down there...The Smithsonian has alot of our best stuff and hides or DESTROYS artifacts. There was a book by a man about hidden archeology or lost arch. that outlines the sneaky way the Smithsonian goes about destroying or hiding this stuff and the fact that there was human life here millions of years ago. (that whole landbridge "theory" is SO bogus!)The Leaky's tried to suppress the discovery of Lucy, the oldest known humanoid, its quite commen. The reason so many "ancestors" are found in Africa is because its cheaper and more comfortable to look there. If they ever dug up the S. American ruins the whole history of the world would be turned on its ear.
Ive seen other stuff the People down there have hidden. I hesitate to say anything as I dont want visitors at my door...Been there, done that.
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Does anyone have a google pin or lat/long for this?
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can you find it on google earth?
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Ive visited Navajo/Hopi land and done alot of grave repatriation vs. the US government...I heard about the veracity of this site from many old, old people and it is the "area 51" of the Indian nations down there...The Smithsonian has alot of our best stuff and hides or DESTROYS artifacts. There was a book by a man about hidden archeology or lost arch. that outlines the sneaky way the Smithsonian goes about destroying or hiding this stuff and the fact that there was human life here millions of years ago. (that whole landbridge "theory" is SO bogus!)The Leaky's tried to suppress the discovery of Lucy, the oldest known humanoid, its quite commen. The reason so many "ancestors" are found in Africa is because its cheaper and more comfortable to look there. If they ever dug up the S. American ruins the whole history of the world would be turned on its ear.
Ive seen other stuff the People down there have hidden. I hesitate to say anything as I dont want visitors at my door...Been there, done that.
 Quoting: Indian Elder 91742



So true ... the actual world is the summum of religious materialist lies.
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there is a group that did find this cave and they post many photos on there web page about 2 or 3 years ago. you can not get into the cave, it is sealed up but on the ground there is proff of what may be inside it if it was still there. I recall they drove right up to it and used rope to repel down to it. There are like three or so very good web pages on this cave. I do not have the links to them any more but this group goes all over the world looking at all this odd still and posts photos.
There name starts with a "L" but i do not recall the rest of the name. and true they still say they know not a thing about this cave. But things do get lost in boxes, it has been 100 years almost.
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[link to www.marsearthconnection.com]
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[link to www.philipcoppens.com]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 101239


and I thought that site went dead years ago

If I remember rightly the owner ran out of money and time to keep it up to date, its a shame, it was an awesome site
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Hahaha,...I love this site!!!

A person can find just what the doctor ordered.

Why does every thread have an idiot posting BS in it?

As if,...

That flag is not their own insanity in full effect. chuckle


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From my years of research I believe it is not bs


In fact, the govt knows much more about the hidden artifacts than they would ever disclose


Where is Rog? He can discuss this quite well...



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it's bullshit, of course. otherwise, why would no one since have been able to find it?
 Quoting: know_one

"Know Nothing" would be more accurate.
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Howdy Do Shadow Dancer!!

Very interesting times for those with open minds and empathetic hearts don't ya know???!!! hf







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