Sandy Hook - Debunking the Debunkers

Words mean things dont they. And when we actually listen and pay attention the truth will become obvious for all to see.

Well done Swan!



Kinda makes me want to know what really happened to those children and if there were any there. What a muddy mess!

Real school or closed school?
Real children, old pictures?


The Librarian from Head O Meadow (Bjorklund) was working at Sandy Hook that fateful morning? I mean don't we all show up to work at the wrong facility when we go to work? Why wasn't she working at Head O Meadow School that day? That's where her job is.

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Mrs. Bjorklund was Ryans teacher at Sandy Hook (supposedly)


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Real town or CIA town?

Nothing makes any sense.

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Maybe you can make heads or tails out of it. I'm sure they made up some excuse for Bjorklund being at Sandy Hook when she's the head library media specialist (Librarian) at Head O Meadow school and really had no business being at Sandy Hook that day.

The key point of the OP's video:

No families of victims identified said victims; neither in person, nor by photograph.

This vid reveals where the report shows how authorities asked for pictures and descriptions of the "victims" from the families so they could identify them.

Is this legal? Wouldn't people have to sign something to allow someone else to identify their deceased child?

Edit: I did some checking and it looks as though it is standard practice to get identifying information from family and authorities will identify them and in certain cases may ask friends and family to view the deceased if authorities are unsure based on information they have.

Although this flies in the face of Cavers statement at the press conference. He was not being vague here with this statement.
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Relatives identified their loved ones not in person but by photos taken of the victims’ faces, Carver said.


“We did not bring the bodies and families into contact, we took pictures of them, of their facial features,” he said. “It’s easier on the families when you do that. There is a time and place for up close and personal in the grieving process but to accomplish this we felt it would be best to do it this way.”


This does beg the question though. If in the report the authorities are waking up families to get personal identification items... and the list was distributed the next day... why is Carver stating that they had the families view pictures they took of the victims? When did they see these pictures?

Later in this article they have an update. I will assume this is Saturday at 10:40am

"Update 10:40 a.m.

NEWTOWN, CT --

Though the gunman’s motive remains unclear, some pieces of the timeline, emergency response and ongoing investigation into Friday’s horrifying shooting came into focus Saturday morning as state police addressed media members at a park near Sandy Hook Elementary School.

All 20 children and six adults who died as a result of wounds suffered at the Newtown school have been identified by family members, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said."

This tells me that the family members were the ones who verified the deceased.

Last Edited by Dudeashaneo on 02/18/2015 10:36 AM

At the time of the event everyone was horrified that they left the kids in the school for a very long time. Wasn't it days?

Carver said they moved the bodies in the middle of the night. I was under the impression that it was after midnight based on what Carver implied...I will have to get his exact quote.

Pin jackpot then ... D:

I just read that all were removed before dawn on the 15th.

Before I jump to conclusions, is there a good reason for doing that?

Please answer my question.

Dudeashamed ... Assume you a BACK at the asylum now, and reading your comics again !

I live less than 20 miles from Newtown, and have NEVER HEARD of an town office being open on CHRISTMAS DAY to record mortgages for people entering that town ( who WERE the actors HIRED to play these rolls, in this government/Obammy 'tragedy' ) to force gun legislation in CT.
ALSO, those SAME ACTORS had their mortgages PAID OFF on Christmas Day that same year ! Explain that away, FOOL !

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Uh....okay. Did I miss something?

Okay...here is an update from CBS news at 12/15/12 9:20am.

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Headline:

Sandy Hook victims identified, bodies removed from school overnight


"The bodies of all of the deceased victims of the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting were positively identified by early Saturday morning, according to Connecticut State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance."


Later in the article Vance is quoted as saying.

"Our objective certainly was to positively identify the victims to try to give the families some closure," he explained. "Our detectives worked well through the night. By early this morning, we were able to positively identify all of the victims and make some formal notification to all of the families of the victims."

This to me sounds like the families never saw pictures for identification.

Now let me ask this. In this interview Vance says they were in the firehouse when they told certain family members that their loved ones had been killed....do they do that before identification?

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Last Edited by Dudeashaneo on 02/18/2015 11:55 AM

That's what the official record said, I read it.

The deeds might have been signed on any day of the year. but the rest of the real estate transaction would have been done during regular hours.

I went and found the record and read it for myself, I did not take anybody's word for it.

It appears that you are just responding to your emotions.

What question?

Just bumping this with Gene's epic magical beard.

5 o'clock shadow?

I cut hair, how far apart are these pictures? I never saw these side by side before?

Swan-So let me get his straight......You are using a police report, which you don't believe, to prove that none of the parents seen their dead kids?

I guess that almost makes sense!

Looks like it's about 3:30-4:00 in the second pic so 3:30 shadow?

Well I don't want to quibble... so, OK, 3:30 o'clock shadow.

Too bad that beard doesn't disguise that predatory, snaggle toothed mouth.

Ghoulish.

1st pic is supposedly the day of the "event". He's near the "drama corner" of the fire house giving interviews at 10:30-11:00 am when he was supposed to be playing with stuffed animals.

2nd pic is supposedly later that afternoon during his practice session before the scheduled big interviews at his house.

I wonder what that badge is that he has on? Also does it look photo shopped on the first pic or did you just stop a moving video and take a snapshot? That's weird. I can't see how this is possible if your timelines are correct, how could they screw up this bad! LOL! Maybe Eugene's vanity has gotten the best of him this time!

Even his hair is a different color. It is grey in the pic on the left, beardless, and white in the pic on the right.

That's the Magic, of Crisis Acting!

That thing in the second pic is his ever-present smartphone. It seems like everyone was walking around that day with their smartphones.

No megaphones needed for direction. See, smartphones are good for something.



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2nd pic he is all nicely trimmed. Nice and clean there under the chin. Different shirt. Almost like he's getting ready for something.

Ah! That explains it all.

"You can be whatever you want to be, go wherever you want to go!'

Crisis acting has it all!

I'm wondering how long it will be before crisis actor fans start bothering them when they go out to eat?

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Seriously, though, Sobriquet, were these two photos supposed to have been taken on the day of the event?

If so, this is a very important find, joking aside. A real smoking gun that the whole event was a patchwork production.