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Toyota has been pushing these creepy weird commercials on TV. It starts as a sentimental montage of a "classic american dad" raising his pretty american daughter through her childhood and teens. The narrator of the commercial then says, "and one day she will probably have to serve, it's her patriotic duty!", or some shit- while the dad is dropping her off at the airport all misty-eyed, hugging her goodbye in the Toyota Camry, sending her off to war with her camouflage back-pack on.

I am not arguing against military enlistment marketing or commercials, it has been happening forever - they have always used emotions and duty as a psychological tool to get you to enlist - but I am wondering this: why the fuck is Toyota, a Japanese company, playing on US military family emotions to market their shitty cars and trucks? It is a Japanese headquartered, international corporation - is it not? Then what business do they have inserting propaganda or using emotions, basically pushing their own enlistment propaganda every 10 minutes on every television station?

Does Toyota produce and pay for similar commercials in the japanese market? Do they show young Japanese men and women hugging ol' ma and pa goodbye in the Toyota camry before going off to fight in a war? Oh, they don't fight in wars?

Are not the vehicles we see ISIS and other terrorist organizations driving 2014 Toyota SUV and trucks? So you're saying, somewhere down the line, even remotely, that Japan is not profiting from or even playing both sides of various conflict?

You know this sappy kind of shit, even on TV commercials, and especially between dads and their daughters, gets the sheeps' emotions every time - never asking, "who benefits from this type of sappy marketing? Why are they targeting our family ties and our patriotic sense of duty? Why is Toyota spending millions of dollars to play commercials of Military enlistment every 10 minutes on US television? Why is ISIS all driving Toyotas? Why wouldn't Japan just not sell the toyotas to the terrorists and then the American dads wouldn't have to drop their daughters off in the Camry to go fight them?"
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Japs going too be Japs. Toyota makes good radiated pick up trucks I have seen lots of Nissan's too. Ten 2013-2014 model Tundras or Titans with 20mm cannons mounted on back will fug you up.

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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
Toyota has been pushing these creepy weird commercials on TV. It starts as a sentimental montage of a "classic american dad" raising his pretty american daughter through her childhood and teens. The narrator of the commercial then says, "and one day she will probably have to serve, it's her patriotic duty!", or some shit- while the dad is dropping her off at the airport all misty-eyed, hugging her goodbye in the Toyota Camry, sending her off to war with her camouflage back-pack on.

I am not arguing against military enlistment marketing or commercials, it has been happening forever - they have always used emotions and duty as a psychological tool to get you to enlist - but I am wondering this: why the fuck is Toyota, a Japanese company, playing on US military family emotions to market their shitty cars and trucks? It is a Japanese headquartered, international corporation - is it not? Then what business do they have inserting propaganda or using emotions, basically pushing their own enlistment propaganda every 10 minutes on every television station?

Does Toyota produce and pay for similar commercials in the japanese market? Do they show young Japanese men and women hugging ol' ma and pa goodbye in the Toyota camry before going off to fight in a war? Oh, they don't fight in wars?

Are not the vehicles we see ISIS and other terrorist organizations driving 2014 Toyota SUV and trucks? So you're saying, somewhere down the line, even remotely, that Japan is not profiting from or even playing both sides of various conflict?

You know this sappy kind of shit, even on TV commercials, and especially between dads and their daughters, gets the sheeps' emotions every time - never asking, "who benefits from this type of sappy marketing? Why are they targeting our family ties and our patriotic sense of duty? Why is Toyota spending millions of dollars to play commercials of Military enlistment every 10 minutes on US television? Why is ISIS all driving Toyotas? Why wouldn't Japan just not sell the toyotas to the terrorists and then the American dads wouldn't have to drop their daughters off in the Camry to go fight them?"
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It's called CAPITALISM. Quite bitching or join the side that takes it down.
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
Toyota has been pushing these creepy weird commercials on TV. It starts as a sentimental montage of a "classic american dad" raising his pretty american daughter through her childhood and teens. The narrator of the commercial then says, "and one day she will probably have to serve, it's her patriotic duty!", or some shit- while the dad is dropping her off at the airport all misty-eyed, hugging her goodbye in the Toyota Camry, sending her off to war with her camouflage back-pack on.

I am not arguing against military enlistment marketing or commercials, it has been happening forever - they have always used emotions and duty as a psychological tool to get you to enlist - but I am wondering this: why the fuck is Toyota, a Japanese company, playing on US military family emotions to market their shitty cars and trucks? It is a Japanese headquartered, international corporation - is it not? Then what business do they have inserting propaganda or using emotions, basically pushing their own enlistment propaganda every 10 minutes on every television station?

Does Toyota produce and pay for similar commercials in the japanese market? Do they show young Japanese men and women hugging ol' ma and pa goodbye in the Toyota camry before going off to fight in a war? Oh, they don't fight in wars?

Are not the vehicles we see ISIS and other terrorist organizations driving 2014 Toyota SUV and trucks? So you're saying, somewhere down the line, even remotely, that Japan is not profiting from or even playing both sides of various conflict?

You know this sappy kind of shit, even on TV commercials, and especially between dads and their daughters, gets the sheeps' emotions every time - never asking, "who benefits from this type of sappy marketing? Why are they targeting our family ties and our patriotic sense of duty? Why is Toyota spending millions of dollars to play commercials of Military enlistment every 10 minutes on US television? Why is ISIS all driving Toyotas? Why wouldn't Japan just not sell the toyotas to the terrorists and then the American dads wouldn't have to drop their daughters off in the Camry to go fight them?"
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I'm sure chrysler/fiat would be glad to sell isis jeeps..they just don't want them LOL.
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i think the main consideration is that they do not say ford or chevy.
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
After two of their citizens had their heads lopped off, you'd think the Japs would stop supplying them.
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
Why not?

Coca-Cola sold bottle to the Nazi's for use in their air force pilot supplies.

Ford sold parts to BMW (to build Messerschmidt engines)

Standard Oil, sold an important fuel thinner that bomber planes could not fly without to BOTH sides of the war...

I could keep typing this list for weeks of BOTH SIDES players...

All above what we consider AMERICAN COMPANIES ?? LOL ya... right
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Japs going too be Japs. Toyota makes good radiated pick up trucks I have seen lots of Nissan's too. Ten 2013-2014 model Tundras or Titans with 20mm cannons mounted on back will fug you up.
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tundra is for north america only i think, not certain. some "isis" land cruisers i saw pics of were us market cruisers. odd
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
I don't believe the "JAPS" are selling anything.

There are these places called DEALERSHIPS, and at a DEALERSHIP you can buy CARS AND TRUCKS.

Some Saudi Sheik, probably bought an entire dealership and handed the keys to ISIS.
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Only a buffoon would actually think Toyota was supplying them with trucks.
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
Toyota has been pushing these creepy weird commercials on TV. It starts as a sentimental montage of a "classic american dad" raising his pretty american daughter through her childhood and teens. The narrator of the commercial then says, "and one day she will probably have to serve, it's her patriotic duty!", or some shit- while the dad is dropping her off at the airport all misty-eyed, hugging her goodbye in the Toyota Camry, sending her off to war with her camouflage back-pack on.

I am not arguing against military enlistment marketing or commercials, it has been happening forever - they have always used emotions and duty as a psychological tool to get you to enlist - but I am wondering this: why the fuck is Toyota, a Japanese company, playing on US military family emotions to market their shitty cars and trucks? It is a Japanese headquartered, international corporation - is it not? Then what business do they have inserting propaganda or using emotions, basically pushing their own enlistment propaganda every 10 minutes on every television station?

Does Toyota produce and pay for similar commercials in the japanese market? Do they show young Japanese men and women hugging ol' ma and pa goodbye in the Toyota camry before going off to fight in a war? Oh, they don't fight in wars?

Are not the vehicles we see ISIS and other terrorist organizations driving 2014 Toyota SUV and trucks? So you're saying, somewhere down the line, even remotely, that Japan is not profiting from or even playing both sides of various conflict?

You know this sappy kind of shit, even on TV commercials, and especially between dads and their daughters, gets the sheeps' emotions every time - never asking, "who benefits from this type of sappy marketing? Why are they targeting our family ties and our patriotic sense of duty? Why is Toyota spending millions of dollars to play commercials of Military enlistment every 10 minutes on US television? Why is ISIS all driving Toyotas? Why wouldn't Japan just not sell the toyotas to the terrorists and then the American dads wouldn't have to drop their daughters off in the Camry to go fight them?"
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
Why not?

Coca-Cola sold bottle to the Nazi's for use in their air force pilot supplies.

Ford sold parts to BMW (to build Messerschmidt engines)

Standard Oil, sold an important fuel thinner that bomber planes could not fly without to BOTH sides of the war...

I could keep typing this list for weeks of BOTH SIDES players...

All above what we consider AMERICAN COMPANIES ?? LOL ya... right
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A plumber here in Texas had one of his plumbing trucks end up there... remember tha?
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
Why not?

Coca-Cola sold bottle to the Nazi's for use in their air force pilot supplies.

Ford sold parts to BMW (to build Messerschmidt engines)

Standard Oil, sold an important fuel thinner that bomber planes could not fly without to BOTH sides of the war...

I could keep typing this list for weeks of BOTH SIDES players...

All above what we consider AMERICAN COMPANIES ?? LOL ya... right
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A plumber here in Texas had one of his plumbing trucks end up there... remember tha?
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same side
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I believe I just watched the commercial you're talking about. You're sensationalising it a bit...nowhere did it say "duty" but I see your point and its still a valid point. People at the top profit on things like war and fear. It's an insane asylum, this world.
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You do realize those Toyota trucks that isis are using were converted and shipped to them by Israel

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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
I don't believe the "JAPS" are selling anything.

There are these places called DEALERSHIPS, and at a DEALERSHIP you can buy CARS AND TRUCKS.

Some Saudi Sheik, probably bought an entire dealership and handed the keys to ISIS.
 Quoting: First Born


I was afraid everyone was jumping on the "supplied by" Japan.

Fucking idiots.

And as for 'pieces of shit': Toyota, cars & trucks, is a vehicle which is rarely on the back of my carrier going to a mechanic. The number one breakdown, for years now, is fucking Chevy's, particularly 1500 & 2500.
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Japs going too be Japs. Toyota makes good radiated pick up trucks I have seen lots of Nissan's too. Ten 2013-2014 model Tundras or Titans with 20mm cannons mounted on back will fug you up.
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I bet its a dealer in a southern US state selling them.
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this thread is retarded on so many levels that my head is gonna explode abomb
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Toyota has been pushing these creepy weird commercials on TV. It starts as a sentimental montage of a "classic american dad" raising his pretty american daughter through her childhood and teens. The narrator of the commercial then says, "and one day she will probably have to serve, it's her patriotic duty!", or some shit- while the dad is dropping her off at the airport all misty-eyed, hugging her goodbye in the Toyota Camry, sending her off to war with her camouflage back-pack on.

I am not arguing against military enlistment marketing or commercials, it has been happening forever - they have always used emotions and duty as a psychological tool to get you to enlist - but I am wondering this: why the fuck is Toyota, a Japanese company, playing on US military family emotions to market their shitty cars and trucks? It is a Japanese headquartered, international corporation - is it not? Then what business do they have inserting propaganda or using emotions, basically pushing their own enlistment propaganda every 10 minutes on every television station?

Does Toyota produce and pay for similar commercials in the japanese market? Do they show young Japanese men and women hugging ol' ma and pa goodbye in the Toyota camry before going off to fight in a war? Oh, they don't fight in wars?

Are not the vehicles we see ISIS and other terrorist organizations driving 2014 Toyota SUV and trucks? So you're saying, somewhere down the line, even remotely, that Japan is not profiting from or even playing both sides of various conflict?

You know this sappy kind of shit, even on TV commercials, and especially between dads and their daughters, gets the sheeps' emotions every time - never asking, "who benefits from this type of sappy marketing? Why are they targeting our family ties and our patriotic sense of duty? Why is Toyota spending millions of dollars to play commercials of Military enlistment every 10 minutes on US television? Why is ISIS all driving Toyotas? Why wouldn't Japan just not sell the toyotas to the terrorists and then the American dads wouldn't have to drop their daughters off in the Camry to go fight them?"
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You have to look at this from the perspective of the company and their marketing campaign.

It's obvious, Toyota knows ISIS is primarily using their vehicles on and off the front line. ISIS has spread this all over social media in their many videos as a show off of their power and funding.
Give thought to how this looks on a Public Relations level for Toyota. This may not be mainstream knowledge since it doesn't seem to be reported by MSM, but I can guarantee you that it's enough for Toyota to want to preemptively reinforce the idea that Toyota is Pro American, Pro Freedom etc. before the idea gets spread around that Toyota is affiliated with a terrorist organization or supports terrorism.
The U.S. is such a massive market for Toyota, if either of those viewpoints of Toyota was ever given serious thought, imagine what that would do to the company as a whole.
It would severely cripple Toyota, and how do you remove that stain?

Anyone ever buy Firestone tires anymore? Didn't think so...
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"Are not the vehicles we see ISIS and other terrorist organizations driving 2014 Toyota SUV and trucks? So you're saying, somewhere down the line, even remotely, that Japan is not profiting from or even playing both sides of various conflict?

this is the same as it was during the Vietnam theatre. US soldiers would watch IBM trucks and other US manufacturers or US allies sending war supplies to the North to be used against US soldiers. War is manufactured, there are many "investors". Anyone who thinks different has watched WAY TOO many movies.
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these trucks were stolen from various private security contractors that had already left town. Some of these trucks were provided to iraq security forces and were stolen. Toyota isn't literally SELLING ISIS tucks lol. they are all stolen or paid for by ISIS.
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these trucks were stolen from various private security contractors that had already left town. Some of these trucks were provided to iraq security forces and were stolen. Toyota isn't literally SELLING ISIS tucks lol. they are all stolen or paid for by ISIS.
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ISIS captured them. The japs didn't sell them shit. You are stupider than shit.
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Yet another reason to avoid Japanese made autos!

If you’re going to be screwed on maintenance costs and acquisition costs, get a BMW or a LandRover. At least they’re made in countries that are somewhat friendly to the US - at least most of the time.
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this thread is retarded on so many levels that my head is gonna explode abomb
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OP is a moron
Do you really think Toyota is selling to ISIS?

When you see a car theif driving a porche, obviously he bought it... damn porches, supporting criminals!
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
I don't believe the "JAPS" are selling anything.

There are these places called DEALERSHIPS, and at a DEALERSHIP you can buy CARS AND TRUCKS.

Some Saudi Sheik, probably bought an entire dealership and handed the keys to ISIS.
 Quoting: First Born


So the 'japs' aren't paying for the cutesy enlistment vids? If Toyota isn't paying for the commercials, it must be godzirra?
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this thread is retarded on so many levels that my head is gonna explode abomb
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You aren't able to respond with anything but ad hominem attack and Morgan freeman? Does Toyota pay you to come derail the truth on these threads, or pay you to make fun of anyone asking simple questions? I took time to detail what I find to be a double standard... to just say a thread is stupid, without backing your opinion up with any fact or truth, makes you out to be either stupid, a paid shill, or a japanese-"american" racist - like most of the Asians living in the US who hates whites and anything they do - smiles to their faces, stabs them in back.
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Re: Toyota playing both sides? Producing military enlistment videos in US while providing ISIS with Land Cruisers?
No.

The U.S. pulled out of Iraq and left those vehicle there. Tanks too.

Brilliant, eh?





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