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Uninternational space station - Russia to abandon ISS

 
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A concept of the Russian successor to the ISS

Russian-American cooperation on the development of the International Space Station, ISS, created great hopes for the future of the manned space program, but also left a bad taste in the mouth of both sides. From the outset, Americans grew impatient from depending on chronically underfunded Russian hardware, and the resulting bickering over money, while Russians have often felt taken advantage of in their desperate economic situation. Not surprisingly, as the ISS project had finally entered the assembly stage at the turn of the 21st century, the two sides started thinking about their separate ways in space.

[link to www.russianspaceweb.com]

On December 15, 2014, answering questions from journalists at the end of an annual press-conference, the head of Roskosmos, Oleg Ostapenko said that the agency had been considering options for the development of the High-Latitude Orbital Station, also known by its Russian abbreviation as VShOS. According to Ostapenko, the new space station would enable to monitor more than 90 percent of the nation's territory (thanks to the higher inclination of its orbit toward the Equator than that of the ISS). In the future, the station would also serve as a foundation for the Russian lunar exploration program, Ostapenko said. The orbitahater site could function as a permanently inhabited facility or as a fully automated spacecraft with periodic visits by the crew, according to Ostapenko.

[link to www.russianspaceweb.com]

As of 2014, the launch of the MLM module was set for 2017, however it envisioned its docking at the ISS. Should the Kremlin decide to build a whole new station around it, the ill-fated spacecraft would have to be grounded again. First off all, it would have to be modified to function as the core of the future station, instead of just an addition to an existing Russian segment, which is already in place to provide the new arrival with flight control, power, life support and communications.

The current deadline established by the Kremlin for the first manned launch from Vostochny is 2018 and recent Russian documents revealed a plan to launch an unmanned OKA-T laboratory on a Soyuz-2 rocket at that time.





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It's smart, using their station as a space dock for lunar exploration instead of blasting off from the pad in an expendable capsule every time you go to the Moon.
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Hell we were supposed to blow it up in 2015 and let it crash to earth. Ok not sure blow up is the correct terminology but yes we were going to "kill" it in 2015. No more money in budget for it. I couldn't believe it. After all that work to just chunk it in 2015! But then somehow it was decided to let it stay until 2020 I think it was even though we can't get there anymore...sad.
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The decision to extend the life span of ISS to 2020 was made in 2010; I guess it was sort of a gentelments agreement between Roscosmos and ESA/NASA... like a friendlly gesture I reckon...
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The decision to extend the life span of ISS to 2020 was made in 2010; I guess it was sort of a gentelments agreement between Roscosmos and ESA/NASA... like a friendlly gesture I reckon...
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Thanks for the confirmation on 2020. And if they decided in 2010 that was just a year before we canned the program. Very strange if you ask me. Going to can then not and knowing full well at that time we were shutting down the shuttle program. Makes no sense to me.
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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Shame they sold their old rockets/space stations to Britain, well, Isle of Man.. would make a nice starting point.. currently all being refitted and updated for the Isle of Mans space program.. you have to LOL at that.. Isle of Man, small Island off Britain having one of the worlds leading space programs, really that just shows what a shamble the Space Race has turned into on all sides..
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russia doesnt want in on the satanic space deception of nasa studio fakery anymore?
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russia doesnt want in on the satanic space deception of nasa studio fakery anymore?
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Maybe they ran out of the special chemical they use to give all the female "astronauts" those terrible perms they use to convince the sheep they're in zero gravity.
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The ufo scared the shit out of them.alien03
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A concept of the Russian successor to the ISS

Russian-American cooperation on the development of the International Space Station, ISS, created great hopes for the future of the manned space program, but also left a bad taste in the mouth of both sides. From the outset, Americans grew impatient from depending on chronically underfunded Russian hardware, and the resulting bickering over money, while Russians have often felt taken advantage of in their desperate economic situation. Not surprisingly, as the ISS project had finally entered the assembly stage at the turn of the 21st century, the two sides started thinking about their separate ways in space.

[link to www.russianspaceweb.com]

On December 15, 2014, answering questions from journalists at the end of an annual press-conference, the head of Roskosmos, Oleg Ostapenko said that the agency had been considering options for the development of the High-Latitude Orbital Station, also known by its Russian abbreviation as VShOS. According to Ostapenko, the new space station would enable to monitor more than 90 percent of the nation's territory (thanks to the higher inclination of its orbit toward the Equator than that of the ISS). In the future, the station would also serve as a foundation for the Russian lunar exploration program, Ostapenko said. The orbitahater site could function as a permanently inhabited facility or as a fully automated spacecraft with periodic visits by the crew, according to Ostapenko.

[link to www.russianspaceweb.com]

As of 2014, the launch of the MLM module was set for 2017, however it envisioned its docking at the ISS. Should the Kremlin decide to build a whole new station around it, the ill-fated spacecraft would have to be grounded again. First off all, it would have to be modified to function as the core of the future station, instead of just an addition to an existing Russian segment, which is already in place to provide the new arrival with flight control, power, life support and communications.

The current deadline established by the Kremlin for the first manned launch from Vostochny is 2018 and recent Russian documents revealed a plan to launch an unmanned OKA-T laboratory on a Soyuz-2 rocket at that time.





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Americans grew impatient from depending on chronically underfunded Russian hardware

bullshit your own shit or stfu ! our hardware is 100% safer then your American bullshit
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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russian defiance ?? the Russians are sending Americans into space, how is that defiance

its the Americans who are in defiance, they do everything they can to disable Russia from space to ground programs !
yet Russia still allows Americans to be sent with Russian hardware. all American space programs use Russian Rockets
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they were called back to Russia from Hollywood to do some more acting at the Ukrainian border
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The ufo scared the shit out of them.alien03
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no they ran out of fake perm 0 gravity spray.
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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russian defiance? we shut our own shuttle down. We have done it to ourselves.
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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russian defiance ?? the Russians are sending Americans into space, how is that defiance

its the Americans who are in defiance, they do everything they can to disable Russia from space to ground programs !
yet Russia still allows Americans to be sent with Russian hardware. all American space programs use Russian Rockets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68460017


all american space programs use russian rockets? youre a joke.

Atlas V
Delta IV
Falcon 9
Antares
Athena
Dragon
Falcon Heavy
Taurus

There are more...
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russia doesnt want in on the satanic space deception of nasa studio fakery anymore?
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+1
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russia doesnt want in on the satanic space deception of nasa studio fakery anymore?
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+1
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Both wrong.

Russian and American crews are sharing a cup of tea in the underground city on Mars, laughing their asses off on just how little the public knows.
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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russian defiance ?? the Russians are sending Americans into space, how is that defiance

its the Americans who are in defiance, they do everything they can to disable Russia from space to ground programs !
yet Russia still allows Americans to be sent with Russian hardware. all American space programs use Russian Rockets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68460017


all american space programs use russian rockets? youre a joke.

Atlas V
Delta IV
Falcon 9
Antares
Athena
Dragon
Falcon Heavy
Taurus

There are more...
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ALL rockets are a joke, anybody who has been to America and spent any time looking up knows they have much better.
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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russian defiance ?? the Russians are sending Americans into space, how is that defiance

its the Americans who are in defiance, they do everything they can to disable Russia from space to ground programs !
yet Russia still allows Americans to be sent with Russian hardware. all American space programs use Russian Rockets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68460017


all american space programs use russian rockets? youre a joke.

Atlas V
Delta IV
Falcon 9
Antares
Athena
Dragon
Falcon Heavy
Taurus

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65628652


What he means is that almost all US built rockets use Russian designed engines.
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russia doesnt want in on the satanic space deception of nasa studio fakery anymore?
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Maybe they ran out of the special chemical they use to give all the female "astronauts" those terrible perms they use to convince the sheep they're in zero gravity.
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Both of you need to be beaten until you're not retarded anymore.
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Are the Ruskies leaving the pool???...
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It is true, Russians are superior in rockets compared to American made versions.


In part from Russia exploring missile technology to counter balance the US's massive navy.

Russia needed to defend from a powerful Navy with out warm water ports. Anti-ship missiles are something Russians are good at.


As a result, the Russian scientists learned a lot about rocket engines, guidance, aerodynamics on an advanced level.

Not saying the US is horrible at this stuff. Russia put in more time and money, they earned it.

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they were called back to Russia from Hollywood to do some more acting at the Ukrainian border
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chuckle
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On 1th march when iss had a spacewalk i saw a ufo,a blinking light quite far from the craft but very sharp ,so i ask here too where are the records from that space mission ?

The time of the scene was 4.18 min(NASA chrono) aprox .
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It's smart, using their station as a space dock for lunar exploration instead of blasting off from the pad in an expendable capsule every time you go to the Moon.
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Man is not welcome on the moon. it is inhabited already. They don't want this bickering bunch of immature people up there.
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russia doesnt want in on the satanic space deception of nasa studio fakery anymore?
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Maybe they ran out of the special chemical they use to give all the female "astronauts" those terrible perms they use to convince the sheep they're in zero gravity.
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Both of you need to be beaten until you're not retarded anymore.
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Billy Dee Shilliams! Back in town. Good to see you, man. How's Teruko these days?
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There is no such thing as the ISS. It is a hoax.
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Maybe a political miscalculation on the US american side that did not expect that much russian defiance ..
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russian defiance ?? the Russians are sending Americans into space, how is that defiance

its the Americans who are in defiance, they do everything they can to disable Russia from space to ground programs !
yet Russia still allows Americans to be sent with Russian hardware. all American space programs use Russian Rockets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68460017


all american space programs use russian rockets? youre a joke.

Atlas V
Delta IV
Falcon 9
Antares
Athena
Dragon
Falcon Heavy
Taurus

There are more...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65628652


at the least Atlas and Delta rocket engines are now russian





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