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Reasons not to vaccinate: The motherload!

 
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Greenmedinfo published a PDF of cumulative knowledge on evidence based reasons to not vaccinate. I find it's really well put together and wanted to share, a great link to send to anyone who is "on the fence" concerning vaccines. Covers most major vaccine topics.

[link to www.greenmedinfo.com]

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When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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Wow !
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Great all in one resource, take that in your syringe and plunge it, you Pro Vaccine Zombies.

[link to www.greenmedinfo.com]
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hf
I'm a little verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves.
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The Motherload indeed! How many pages is that?


Thanks for posting! hf
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The Motherload indeed! How many pages is that?


Thanks for posting! hf
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This open access document contains: 300+ pages of peer-reveiwed evidence showing over 200 adverse effects (including death) linked to vaccines.

A tornado of evidence -
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if you look up the symptoms of mercury poisoning, you might notice they are the exact same as autism, just a coincidence i am sure

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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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Better/advanced healthcare?
"The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish."

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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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REMEMBER : The authorities are in charge of the data ! Ask the global warming folk ....
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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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People started to wash their hands after taking a shit, started to trend upwards after typhoid mary.
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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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Perhaps the powers that be have inflated the number of those that died from the diseases that we vaccinate against.
The other thing to consider is that all the pro-vaccinators and "expert advisors" who the media gives airtime to are usually older men and women ie. in their 50s-60s and were not vaccinated like say my 3yr old was.
Now, who knows what these "health care professionals" and the usual run of the mill "professors" truly think/know or what they tell their children about vaccinating their grandkids.
I dunno
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The thing that confuses people about disease is that we are not all alike.

The future of good medicine will address the differences we inherit genetically so from birth we know what we need to do to stay healthy.

Some people are born with a MTHFR defect that comes in many forms, depending if they inherit from both parents, and in what combinations.

These people can not process toxins in the same way as people without this defect. The surprising fact is almost half the population has some form of this.

At this moment there is a genetic test for only $99- (I am not involved with this co.)

If everyone got tested and proceeded accordingly much suffering could be averted.

Imagine a drug company took advantage of this technology when testing their vaccinations for safety and removed the participants who tested positive for the MTHFR gene?

For anyone who is interested there is some awesome information here---

[link to mthfr.net]

Vaccinations are full of toxins that people with the MTHFR mutation have more difficulty eliminating.

hfhfhf

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Nice! Thanks hf
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wow! Nice to come home from a walk and see my thread's been pinned, thanks for the support guys! hf
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


[link to treeofone.wordpress.com]
[link to vaccinefails.wordpress.com]
[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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This appears to be a bogus list. For example, here is the link to one study cited on page 11 of the pdf. The pdf says the title is "Vaccination is associated with an increased risk of hemolytic anemia."

In reality, the study is entitled: Risk of immune hemolytic anemia in children following immunization.

Here is the abstract of the results:

Several case reports have described immune hemolytic anemia (IHA) following vaccination in children. We examined the risk of IHA in the 42 days following vaccination exposure using a self-controlled case series study design. In our population-based cohort of nearly 4.5 million children in the Vaccine Safety Datalink, we identified 55 confirmed cases of new-onset IHA from 1991 through 2000. We found no association between IHA and diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus vaccination (incidence rate ratio (IRR)=0.65, 95% CI: 0.19-2.24), hepatitis B vaccination (IRR=1.73, 95% CI: 0.59-5.01), or any vaccination (IRR=1.04, 95% CI: 0.46-2.32).

These results are clear that no association was found and the size of the study is very large.

I am totally anti-forced vaccination, but I am also totally anti-lie to the public to cause fear or paranoia.

I will look at a few more of these and see if any others have been modified inappropriately. By the way, the study is NOT a meta-analysis, it's a large case series (vaccinations from 1991-2000) of a defined cohort (Vaccine Safety Datalink.)

ON THE OTHER HAND: There are still concerns in my view. For example, should we extrapolate that vaccinations are safe NOW based on vaccine development, production, quality, and dosing / timing of dosing from the 1999's? I am personally not convinced. Also, there is much to be cautious about in terms of making blanket safety statements with regard to large aggregate data, which could seriously mask high risk sub-groups based on either known or unknown variables.

In any case, I'm happy to have the info, so I can look at the studies myself.
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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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People started to wash their hands after taking a shit, started to trend upwards after typhoid mary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68420483


There were major changes in sanitation, water supply systems and living standards that have been followed by a sharp decline in disease rates. Vaccine charts shown by the CDC do not include any of this data, only that disease rates dropped. It is a pseudo-scientific assumption that vaccines were the primary factor for driving the number of infectious disease rates down. In many cases the vaccine was introduced after the disease had been almost entirely wiped out.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


[link to treeofone.wordpress.com]
[link to vaccinefails.wordpress.com]
[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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Here's the link...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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NATURAL herd immunity?
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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

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Here's the link...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Thank you for pointing that out, it's a large list so there's bound to be discrepancies. I think it's a far shot to say the list is bogus because the title doesn't match. anyone can easily click on the link and read it themselves.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


[link to treeofone.wordpress.com]
[link to vaccinefails.wordpress.com]
[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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Here's the link...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Thank you for pointing that out, it's a large list so there's bound to be discrepancies. I think it's a far shot to say the list is bogus because the title doesn't match. anyone can easily click on the link and read it themselves.
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It's one hell of a list to use as a starting/jumping off point to dig deeper.

Great link OP!!!
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The Motherload indeed! How many pages is that?


Thanks for posting! hf
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326 pages.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


[link to treeofone.wordpress.com]
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[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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You guys should let your kids smoke too.
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Here's the link...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Thank you for pointing that out, it's a large list so there's bound to be discrepancies. I think it's a far shot to say the list is bogus because the title doesn't match. anyone can easily click on the link and read it themselves.
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It's not JUST that the title that is flat wrong, but the purported result of the study is flat wrong. They in fact did not find an association in that study.

It is one thing to make a typo here and there on a large document, but this particular example is not a mere typo.
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Does this explain how diseases that use to kill thousands now hardly effect anyone? This is the one question I always have that makes me unsure which side to believe.
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NATURAL herd immunity?
 Quoting: SilverKwest


What a concept.

Viruses come and go, the black plague went away (though it is said to still exist out there - yet not causing any pandemics!) without a vaccine. So does every other virus. Smallpox wasn't "eradicated" because of the vaccine. Not a lot of people got that, certainly not "herd" numbers, but ignorance pro-vaxxers like to cite smallpox as another vaccine miracle. It is a very crude vaccine at that and caused numerous deaths since its inception. Improved sanitation and the natural cycles of viruses are reasons. The flu mutates and comes and goes without infecting a large number of the populace, despite nowhere near herd immunity numbers taking the vaccine. Obviously it must mutate frequently which is why they have you coming back every year for the "new strain" they've taken a guess at. I've never had the flu and never took the jab. Viruses are opportunistic and cyclical and eventually fade away for the most part, in spite of any vaccine.
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Here's the link...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Thank you for pointing that out, it's a large list so there's bound to be discrepancies. I think it's a far shot to say the list is bogus because the title doesn't match. anyone can easily click on the link and read it themselves.
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It's one hell of a list to use as a starting/jumping off point to dig deeper.

Great link OP!!!
 Quoting: GFX guy


thanks!
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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[link to vaccinefails.wordpress.com]
[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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bump and 5*
Threads:


Thread: SCOTUS allows ban on U.S. flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo
Thread: Petition Opposing Loretta Lynch for Attorney General [PLEASE SIGN]
Thread: Johnson & Johnson Pleads Guilty to Selling Contaminated Infant's Medicines
Thread: The 'Terrible 10'
Thread: Dearman (UK) -- Who Did It?
Thread: History and the Politics of Education **The Intentional Dumbing Down of America Exposed**
Thread: The Billionaires Boys Club's Hands in Our Schools -- REAL Doom!
Thread: Is THIS what's wrong with Detroit?
Thread: Mass Die-Offs: Past & Present


“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

C.S. Lewis
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A starving artist with uncorrected astigmatism and presbyopia, plus 5% (green) color blindness, trying to make a living off of making graphics using a computer not up to the task -- what could go wrong?
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Here's the link...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Thank you for pointing that out, it's a large list so there's bound to be discrepancies. I think it's a far shot to say the list is bogus because the title doesn't match. anyone can easily click on the link and read it themselves.
 Quoting: Silvanus


It's not JUST that the title that is flat wrong, but the purported result of the study is flat wrong. They in fact did not find an association in that study.

It is one thing to make a typo here and there on a large document, but this particular example is not a mere typo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28380526


If you have a problem with that link I suggest you inform greenmedinfo, maybe they will update the list. Iv'e looked through quite a few of the links and haven't found any other discrepancies. my opinion is that as long as there's a link to the study, people can look and decide for themselves if they agree with the study or it's conclusions. so far i'm quite satisfied with the links iv'e reviewed thus far, probably about 20% through them.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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Certain infectious diseases largely disappeared with the increase in better sanitation, less crowded living conditions, and overall stable economic/social conditions, which can all be correlated with the rise of a substantial middle class. People beat down with poverty and oppression tend to have compromised immune systems. These, social stresses, combined with a lack of sanitation, lack of potable water, crowded living environment etc., provide the conditions necessary for diseases to proliferate. Regardless of vaccination status, allow the above disease promoting conditions to flourish, and you will have a disease ridden society. Bottom line, a strong middle class equals a strong immune system.





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