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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 133898 United States 08/22/2006 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God tricked satan (the unsaved people of the word at that time) that if they killed GOD's son JESUS he wouldnt rise from the dead- its simple GOD kept them blind and deaf to the WORD before them... all part of GODS glorious plan- remember this whole world's existence is GOD"S IDEA AND PLAN not ours we're just players in HIS GAME against evil... CARRY ON!! AS YOU WERE HAve a nice day in this isnt YOUR DAY! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 133898 United States 08/22/2006 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " What didn't the rulers understand? God's wisdom in His plan of redemption. How do we know that that's what they didn't understand?1 Cor 2:8: "for if they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory..." The "rulers of this age" are powers and principalities, Satan and his minions—the religious stooges he put up to crucifying Jesus. Those powers—Satan, et al—would never have crucified Jesus if they had known that in doing so they would enable Him through His atoning death to set His elect free from sin's bondage! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 380 United States 08/22/2006 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satan is not God's hitman Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114312but, people who break the law are removed from God's protection because only loving and trusting God can keep us obedient to God if we distrust God and start worshipping other things (sin) then we become vulnerable to attacks by satan How do you know that Satan isn't G-d's hitman? In the Passover story,many Jews believe the Angel of Death, who killed the firstborn of the Egyptians, was Satan. Many Jews also believe that if you offend The Almighty, you risk Him sending "a band of evil angels" against you. Virtually all Jews believe Satan can do nothing at all without G-d's expressed permission. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 134102 Australia 08/22/2006 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satan is not God's hitman Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114312but, people who break the law are removed from God's protection because only loving and trusting God can keep us obedient to God if we distrust God and start worshipping other things (sin) then we become vulnerable to attacks by satan Ok … see here is what I don't get. Is god 'all knowing' ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 101689 United Kingdom 08/22/2006 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone remember reading tha part when Simon Peter said to Jesus "Master, if you go to Jeruselam, you will be killed. If that is so then it is our duty to stop you from going" Jesus replied "get behind me Satan" Satan knew all too well what Jesus death would have meant and tried to persuade Jesus not to go by working through Simon Peter. If Jesus had listened to Simon, he would have avoided jerusalem and would not have been crucified thus Satan would have won. However, if Satan wanted to win by making Jesus stay alive could he have not tried in some ways to persuade the people not to condemn Jesus to the cross. The answer is probably no, he couldn't because what the people wanted were of their free will and Satan could not have persuaded them because Jesus having enough wisdom through God that no matter how Satan may try, it was Jesus' destiny to be killed on the cross. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 133898 United States 08/22/2006 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOW!!We can do all things through Christ whom 'strengthens' us! AMEN it's up to us we have a will and mind to decide no excuses if you fail-- you are what you eat- you are what you think you are what you hang out with you are what you surround yourself with you are what you choose If you feel below what you think you should be check your surroundings and what you do and hang with-- make some changes- and remember changing onself isnt hard-- "People stumble over stones not mountains" ```` If you CHOOSE Jesus you choose life - thats the name of the Game we are playing in-- Its God's dreamt up creation not ours |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 134102 Australia 08/22/2006 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these are specific times which God allowed a man to view, the Apostle John. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114312Seeing is not the same as causing. " Seeing is not the same as causing." I understand that. Well then does god have unlimited power? The reason I ask … What I'm getting to I guess is this fight started in heaven, correct? |
yanni User ID: 134231 United States 08/22/2006 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God tricked satan (the unsaved people of the word at that time) that if they killed GOD's son JESUS he wouldnt rise from the dead- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 133898its simple GOD kept them blind and deaf to the WORD before them... all part of GODS glorious plan- remember this whole world's existence is GOD"S IDEA AND PLAN not ours we're just players in HIS GAME against evil... CARRY ON!! AS YOU WERE HAve a nice day in this isnt YOUR DAY! is jesus without sin in the same sense that in the qur'an mohamad is without sin, because no matter what mohamad did, it was approved by allah? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 101689 United Kingdom 08/22/2006 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | too many people feel they have to avoid sinners, because they will "bring them down" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114312if you really have the Spirit of Christ living in you you can only bring them up but, that doesn't mean entering into the bondage which keeps them from being free it means being free with them and leading them to the one who can set them free and that is Jesus I agree with you 114312. Jesus would want us to mingle in with all sorts of people including those who blaspheme because it is our job to try and give them some form of hope that God is with them. We all sin, so it is arrogant to assume that we should avoid sinners. Jesus himself said, "those within sin, let him cast the first stone" is a perfect example of not just judging others but an example that we are like all others to either a lesser of greater degree have a duty to spread God's word around, and effective way of doing that is to mingle in with it all. |
yanni User ID: 134231 United States 08/22/2006 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what do you mean by "all knowing"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 134102Well as per the scripture I suppose. He knows all about all etc… like "this is the book of revelation, this will happen, that will happen" that's all knowing, right? revelations contradicts itself in that it predicts both the end of the world and a 1000 years of peace. so i conclude that because of human free will, probably a gift of god, god can only predict the range of possibilities, not what will actually happen. of course god knows that every planet that evolves an intelligent civilization will eventually discover nuclear energy and develop the means to end the world. so what god is telling us is that we collectively have a choice, to follow the command of jesus and turn the other cheek or bring an end to the human race. |
Me114 User ID: 71005 United States 08/22/2006 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll tell you the answer, lets see how many of YOU here really know Quoting: Anonymous Coward 133898the point is, satan knows God's words will always be fullfilled, BUT satan does NOT know HOW just like now Yo! :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
Me114 User ID: 71005 United States 08/22/2006 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satan's kids, the Jews, killed Jesus. They weren't tricked. They knew what they were doing. Quoting: alto 134391agree :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
Me114 User ID: 71005 United States 08/22/2006 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satan did not understand that killing Jesus illegally would bring all of mankind out from under his legal trap of death Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114312just imagine, Jesus the man did all this by faith imagine him reading a scroll of Isaiah and the Holy Spirit whispering in His heart, thats you that script is talking about.. He would have had to believe it by faith Jesus the man is also a very awesome person he did it because he loves us :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
Me114 User ID: 71005 United States 08/22/2006 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " What didn't the rulers understand? God's wisdom in His plan of redemption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 133898How do we know that that's what they didn't understand?1 Cor 2:8: "for if they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory..." The "rulers of this age" are powers and principalities, Satan and his minions—the religious stooges he put up to crucifying Jesus. Those powers—Satan, et al—would never have crucified Jesus if they had known that in doing so they would enable Him through His atoning death to set His elect free from sin's bondage! AND... seal THEIR doom too! :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
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