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TOMORROW is Judgement Time: 9.30, Court 36
Here’s the announcement:

Court 36
Before MRS JUSTICE PAUFFLEY
Thursday, 19 March, 2015
At 09:30 AM
Applications in Court as in Chambers
ZC14C00315 Handed Down Judgment & directions

Alleged Hampstead Child Ritual Abuse Case
[link to whistleblowerkids.wordpress.com (secure)]
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bump


Thank you OP for running and moderating this new thread in spite of your busy schedule! Let's see what today's court decision brings, but I feel that whatever it is, this is not over by a long way yet!
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Dude, scroll up....
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You who are obsessed with this case are evil and foolish. Drop it now before you are prosecuted for libel and thrown in jail.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Claims that a "satanic cult" where children were abused by paedophiles has been operating in north London have been dismissed by a High Court judge.

Mrs Justice Pauffley said detail of the claims have been circulating on the internet.

At a family court hearing in London, she said she had been asked to investigate by social services bosses and had conducted a fact-finding exercise.

The judge said in a ruling on Thursday that the claims were "baseless" and she described people who sought to perpetuate them as "evil" or "foolish".
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Just re quoting so its on this page also
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Womp, these people are screwed, they have just blatantly broadcast government corruption for the entire world to examine......

Shoulda went with trying to use Abe as the fall guy.....
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Abe isn't a fall guy. He's the abuser, and pretty much everyone knows it, in their gut.
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No. Don't pull that crap about Abraham, its getting ridiculous. The testimonies are fully convincing and the claims made there need to be investigated ASAP!

Right now they are doing all they can to avoid just that. That is the definition of a cover-up.
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Yes, I found it very convincing when Alisa and Gabriel described in specific detail what Abraham did to them--throw them against walls, hit them with objects, give them "water torture" (which he instructed them to refer to as a "water blessing"), introduced them to the subject of plastic willies, etc.

You'll notice that when Alisa and Gabriel were reciting Abraham's script, they spoke in general past tense: "We dance with the skulls."

When referring to Abraham's actual, specific abuse, however, they use the real past tense that witnesses use when describing something: "I was on the porch, and that's where Abraham told me to say about the skulls. I didn't want to say I did it, because it wasn't true, but Abraham said 'Yes you did, stupid little c***.'"

That's a specific recounting of a specific incident.

Abraham's script was never believable, because, while clever, he got one thing wrong: witnesses don't speak in generalities. They speak in solid past tense. The shock value of his "plastic willies" has understandably jolted many into leaping to defend the children against the phantom abusers ("everyone in Hampstead"), but if they looked at it closely with less emotion, they'd see the flaws in his story.
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Cover up

The mother should be making face statements NOW.

Either that or I'm just over her as well.

**I mean it's "over" now she can surly SKYPE to any alternative voice - even her own youtube channel.

Maybe she's MK'ed? But honestly woman what the fuck are you doing??

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And we are to believe Alisa has been abused all her life--but never once in the way girls are usually abused? Because the medical report shows she is a healthy and unviolated young girl in that respect.


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She was abused in all the other ways except that - probably because the cult were saving her purity for a later 'marriage' and subsequent sacrifice …… possibly? Just my thoughts.
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New audio from Ella and Abe

[link to vid.me (secure)]

From website:

[link to whistleblowerkids.uk]
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TOMORROW is Judgement Time: 9.30, Court 36
Here’s the announcement:

Court 36
Before MRS JUSTICE PAUFFLEY
Thursday, 19 March, 2015
At 09:30 AM
Applications in Court as in Chambers
ZC14C00315 Handed Down Judgment & directions

Alleged Hampstead Child Ritual Abuse Case
[link to whistleblowerkids.wordpress.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Arete11


bump


Thank you OP for running and moderating this new thread in spite of your busy schedule! Let's see what today's court decision brings, but I feel that whatever it is, this is not over by a long way yet!
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Dude, scroll up....
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You mean the little Telegraph article? I was hoping for something a bit more substantial and from a source close to this case, not just some newspaper reporting.

Although it is very interesting that this is what they've decided to go with (and hence instructed the papers to write); it signals that in their perception they are "in charge" enough to attempt a complete coverup.

On the various Putin threads over the weekend it was reported that the Russian embassy (which, some have claimed, has been involved in this case) had been evacuated, no less. I wonder if there is any link with this case at all?
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No Evidence? Bullshit.

Video Testimony
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
(Note even the so-called "retractions" he police officer mentions "Zorro" first!)


Statement by Expert Witness:
[link to drive.google.com (secure)]

Facts from the medical reports
(since actual reports removed from the internet):
[link to crimesofempire.com]

Childrens drawings
[link to i.imgur.com]
[link to i.imgur.com]


The Mysterious School Bus (and Porsche):
Parked outside one of the "named addresses" - "corner house"
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
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No Evidence? Bullshit.

Video Testimony
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
(Note even the so-called "retractions" he police officer mentions "Zorro" first!)


Statement by Expert Witness:
[link to drive.google.com (secure)]

Facts from the medical reports
(since actual reports removed from the internet):
[link to crimesofempire.com]

Childrens drawings
[link to i.imgur.com]
[link to i.imgur.com]


The Mysterious School Bus (and Porsche):
Parked outside one of the "named addresses" - "corner house"
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
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hayseedhayseedhayseedhayseedhayseedhayseed
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New audio from Ella and Abe

[link to vid.me (secure)]

From website:

[link to whistleblowerkids.uk]
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I'm actually pissed now - not loading + no VIDEO is really shit. Why not skype, youtube, vimeo, liveleak - Jesus!


She knew how to facebook? I mean get real.
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Article from the mail
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Where is the mom and where is the stepdad WITH THEIR FACES on video talking the truth???
They could make this public personally and there would be no way to secretely kill them or whatever.
Instead they flee and never again issue a video with their faces?

Why no reaction from them?

The guy Abraham acts like an aggressive obsessive person.
Looks like he trains the childs to talk.
He acts like a very unsympathetic feisty person. Wouldnt want to be around him.

Thoughts that the mom is mkultra'ed are conspiracy nutjob talk(yeah we know mkultra is real but not everyone is). Just a woman that does what her guy tells her. Happens often.

So for me it appears that the woman wants her childs as any woman to be with them. Typical child custody battle?
ENTER the guy abraham.
Comes up with some B.S story about child sacrifice and pressures the kids to tell it.
Either to cover his own abuse up or to push authorities to give custody to his woman. (can you imagine her pushing him to come up with soemthing so she is satisfied and stays with him?)

I have to laugh at people who cite Dacid icke(lol #1 gatekeeper) having same storys uncovered thus the kids reciting storys are true. Easy for Abe to just repeat them from the net..duuuhh..

Question for me is if there is an indication that Abe did do something physical to the kids and thats the reason why they are on the run.


So unless the mother and Abe come up with THEIR OWN FACES and tell the whole story (after parading the children only) I call B.S on them and it seems you all and anyone really concerned was instrumentalized.
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Where is the mom and where is the stepdad WITH THEIR FACES on video talking the truth???
They could make this public personally and there would be no way to secretely kill them or whatever.
Instead they flee and never again issue a video with their faces?

Why no reaction from them?

The guy Abraham acts like an aggressive obsessive person.
Looks like he trains the childs to talk.
He acts like a very unsympathetic feisty person. Wouldnt want to be around him.

Thoughts that the mom is mkultra'ed are conspiracy nutjob talk(yeah we know mkultra is real but not everyone is). Just a woman that does what her guy tells her. Happens often.

So for me it appears that the woman wants her childs as any woman to be with them. Typical child custody battle?
ENTER the guy abraham.
Comes up with some B.S story about child sacrifice and pressures the kids to tell it.
Either to cover his own abuse up or to push authorities to give custody to his woman. (can you imagine her pushing him to come up with soemthing so she is satisfied and stays with him?)

I have to laugh at people who cite Dacid icke(lol #1 gatekeeper) having same storys uncovered thus the kids reciting storys are true. Easy for Abe to just repeat them from the net..duuuhh..

Question for me is if there is an indication that Abe did do something physical to the kids and thats the reason why they are on the run.


So unless the mother and Abe come up with THEIR OWN FACES and tell the whole story (after parading the children only) I call B.S on them and it seems you all and anyone really concerned was instrumentalized.
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^^ THIS ^^ Vielen Dank. Finally someone speaking some sense.
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"SATANIC CULT DISMISSED" - ….. and so, with a wave of her hand ….. the judge is allowing thousands more babies to suffer ….
and ignoring the brave cries of these amazing heroes - Alisa and Gabriel.

She will stand before the ultimate judge one day and have to answer for this.
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Where is the mom and where is the stepdad WITH THEIR FACES on video talking the truth???
They could make this public personally and there would be no way to secretely kill them or whatever.
Instead they flee and never again issue a video with their faces?

Why no reaction from them?

The guy Abraham acts like an aggressive obsessive person.
Looks like he trains the childs to talk.
He acts like a very unsympathetic feisty person. Wouldnt want to be around him.

Thoughts that the mom is mkultra'ed are conspiracy nutjob talk(yeah we know mkultra is real but not everyone is). Just a woman that does what her guy tells her. Happens often.

So for me it appears that the woman wants her childs as any woman to be with them. Typical child custody battle?
ENTER the guy abraham.
Comes up with some B.S story about child sacrifice and pressures the kids to tell it.
Either to cover his own abuse up or to push authorities to give custody to his woman. (can you imagine her pushing him to come up with soemthing so she is satisfied and stays with him?)

I have to laugh at people who cite Dacid icke(lol #1 gatekeeper) having same storys uncovered thus the kids reciting storys are true. Easy for Abe to just repeat them from the net..duuuhh..

Question for me is if there is an indication that Abe did do something physical to the kids and thats the reason why they are on the run.


So unless the mother and Abe come up with THEIR OWN FACES and tell the whole story (after parading the children only) I call B.S on them and it seems you all and anyone really concerned was instrumentalized.
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Usually parents are involved and do participate under mind control. It's a possibility weather you like that or not.

Read Transformation Of America by Cathy O'Brien.

But I agree NO VIDEO is really suspect - also you'd be safer in PUBLIC VIEW, and also why no update since this which was 4 days ago?

And the video (audio) will not play for me and is taking forever to download. Anyone can give the audio a subtext?
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Strange but when you do a search for "Satanic cult dismissed by judge" you get pages of newspaper articles all released 4 hours ago. Almost like it was already scripted and they were just waiting to press the post button.

All running the same story, exact same words.

This has slightly different content:

[link to www.hamhigh.co.uk]
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Article from the mail
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Interesting, no comments allowed...
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New audio from Ella and Abe

[link to vid.me (secure)]

From website:

[link to whistleblowerkids.uk]
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They were easy to showcase the kids on video but cant talk straight into a cam themselves?


The way they talk and act is the demeanour of bullshitters.
The guy Abe is acting and talking creepy. Laughing after "tortured". They are just going along with their bullshit story.
Laughing kissing etc. after talking about eating kids. They are really stupid and over the top.

Even worse they are a disgrace for the real cases!
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Strange but when you do a search for "Satanic cult dismissed by judge" you get pages of newspaper articles all released 4 hours ago. Almost like it was already scripted and they were just waiting to press the post button.

All running the same story, exact same words.

This has slightly different content:

[link to www.hamhigh.co.uk]
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Yes, that's how it looks: narrative all wrapped up and ready to go the moment the embargo is lifted.
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''But after a lengthy private hearing when the children themselves were interviewed and examined the judge declared: “ I am able to state with complete conviction that none of the allegations are true.''

Still messing with these kids smh..

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The kids in the vids leaked from the police are acting normal and natural as one would expect and with Abe they always are under pressure and pushed to say stuff he seemed to came up or copied from the internet(and then people on here read the real cases and think Abe story is real cause its similar).

The kids are intelligent, espacially more intelligent then their mom.
They are quiet comfortable with the police/child service in body posture..compare that with Abe's akward pressured videos
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Poor kids :(
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Yes, I found it very convincing when Alisa and Gabriel described in specific detail what Abraham did to them--throw them against walls, hit them with objects, give them "water torture" (which he instructed them to refer to as a "water blessing"), introduced them to the subject of plastic willies, etc.

You'll notice that when Alisa and Gabriel were reciting Abraham's script, they spoke in general past tense: "We dance with the skulls."

When referring to Abraham's actual, specific abuse, however, they use the real past tense that witnesses use when describing something: "I was on the porch, and that's where Abraham told me to say about the skulls. I didn't want to say I did it, because it wasn't true, but Abraham said 'Yes you did, stupid little c***.'"

That's a specific recounting of a specific incident.

Abraham's script was never believable, because, while clever, he got one thing wrong: witnesses don't speak in generalities. They speak in solid past tense. The shock value of his "plastic willies" has understandably jolted many into leaping to defend the children against the phantom abusers ("everyone in Hampstead"), but if they looked at it closely with less emotion, they'd see the flaws in his story.
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applause
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OK I just listened and that was fucking weird. Almost was about them and not her kids, lacking an emotion.

WOW - that was weird..
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Even with my speakers all the way up, that is unlistenable...
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OK I just listened and that was fucking weird. Almost was about them and not her kids, lacking an emotion.

WOW - that was weird..
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One moment talking about cooking and eating kids and the next kissing and laughing.

They are either stupid as hell or evil as hell. (or both)
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Even with my speakers all the way up, that is unlistenable...
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I listened to it with headphones but have to admit it did come across as a little bizzare.
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“The claims are baseless. Those who have sought to perpetrate them are evil and or foolish.”

She said filmed interviews of the children had been uploaded onto the internet with more than four million people worldwide viewing online material about the case.

She added: “It is inevitable that a large proportion of those have a sexual interest in children. Any rational adult who uploads film clips to YouTube featuring children speaking about sexual activity must be assumed to realise that fact.”


Shame on you GLP kiddie fiddlers :)
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these kids know details even many adults would not know to Satanic type cults. I find the kids credible and they are in sync IMO.
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“The claims are baseless. Those who have sought to perpetrate them are evil and or foolish.”

She said filmed interviews of the children had been uploaded onto the internet with more than four million people worldwide viewing online material about the case.

She added: “It is inevitable that a large proportion of those have a sexual interest in children. Any rational adult who uploads film clips to YouTube featuring children speaking about sexual activity must be assumed to realise that fact.”


Shame on you GLP kiddie fiddlers :)
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they ever think that there is the claim out there that there is a big cover up going on and that there might just be those who want to keep the truth from being cleaned up?

to me the above "she" is trying to do her job, wonder how much she hopes to gain from it.
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to me the above "she" is trying to do her job, wonder how much she hopes to gain from it.
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The safety and wellbeing of the kids maybe?
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