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"We dance with the skulls in the church" MODERATED. UPDATED WITH CURRENT PAEDOPHILE ISSUES//LINKS P236.

 
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PS: claims of Coaching of the Children so that they'll describe these vast, complex and lurid SSS or Satanic Slaughter Scenarios i.e. their own physical and sexual abuse, are POINTLESS.

Why?

Well, have you seen the SCOPE OF THE CLAIMS? I mean really. The first true investigation of one or two of the kids' catalogue of abuse claims will confirm/deny them. Right?

Now, what if 'an interrogating policeman who orchestrates a confession from such a clearly keen to please (fear of severe punishment will do that to anyone) i.e. coached, kid' was actually one of the major players in the Kids Real SSS Abuse?

Discuss...
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8 mins until judgement
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Do you have a personal relationship with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ? The Son of God. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16
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just to be clear... todays court judgement is to award custody of these children potentially to their allegedly abusive father..


The case is NOT a criminal one in the sense that their allegations are being investigated, because they are NOT.

THESE KIDS NEED A PROPER INVESTIGATION.
THIS IS WHY THIS PIT IS STILL SHINNED.
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Soooo...

What was the judgment?

I pinned it awaiting a report...

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Soooo...

What was the judgment?

I pinned it awaiting a report...

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INCOMING

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You who are obsessed with this case are evil and foolish. Drop it now before you are prosecuted for libel and thrown in jail.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Claims that a "satanic cult" where children were abused by paedophiles has been operating in north London have been dismissed by a High Court judge.

Mrs Justice Pauffley said detail of the claims have been circulating on the internet.

At a family court hearing in London, she said she had been asked to investigate by social services bosses and had conducted a fact-finding exercise.

The judge said in a ruling on Thursday that the claims were "baseless" and she described people who sought to perpetuate them as "evil" or "foolish".
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The judge said in a ruling on Thursday that the claims were "baseless" and she described people who sought to perpetuate them as "evil" or "foolish".
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So, no checking of testimony then.

So what's the point of witness?

FJS or Fuck'd Jewdicial System.
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You who are obsessed with this case are evil and foolish. Drop it now before you are prosecuted for libel and thrown in jail.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Claims that a "satanic cult" where children were abused by paedophiles has been operating in north London have been dismissed by a High Court judge.

Mrs Justice Pauffley said detail of the claims have been circulating on the internet.

At a family court hearing in London, she said she had been asked to investigate by social services bosses and had conducted a fact-finding exercise.

The judge said in a ruling on Thursday that the claims were "baseless" and she described people who sought to perpetuate them as "evil" or "foolish".
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Wow...that was an indepth article from the Telegraph...NOT
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How can the claims be baseless when the medical reports supported what the children had claimed?
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You who are obsessed with this case are evil and foolish. Drop it now before you are prosecuted for libel and thrown in jail.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Claims that a "satanic cult" where children were abused by paedophiles has been operating in north London have been dismissed by a High Court judge.

Mrs Justice Pauffley said detail of the claims have been circulating on the internet.

At a family court hearing in London, she said she had been asked to investigate by social services bosses and had conducted a fact-finding exercise.

The judge said in a ruling on Thursday that the claims were "baseless" and she described people who sought to perpetuate them as "evil" or "foolish".
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This is very dissapointing but hardly surprising.
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Dude...

I pinned it...

rolleyes
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How can the claims be baseless when the medical reports supported what the children had claimed?
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Baseless anal scars
Foolish anal scars
Evil anal scars

Carry on.
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Dude...

I pinned it...

rolleyes
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Well done you!!!...

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When the kids were "describing" [reciding] Abraham's garbage, they were parroting in unison--names always in the same order--it was so fricking obviously a script.

When they were interviewed by the police, and started relaxing, they not only expressed emotion and opinion for the first time [instead of looking nervously at Abe's damn camera and big meaty hand waiting to swoop in and "correct" their camera position], they also started talking about regular kids' stuff as well. Which grandma cooked the favorite pancakes, where they liked to travel, and some pretty strong feelings about Abe ("I hate him," said Gabriel).

Night and day, and any juror watching--were there ever to be one--will see the difference.

Abe is the abuser. Who knows, maybe he has friends who join in (why else take naked videos of the children on his iPhone), but Abe is not a good guy in this case.

Those kids need to be kept AWAY from him. The only reason the kids went along with his scheme is because he threw them against walls, hit them so hard their ears bled, refused to let Ella feed them warm food, and told Alisa he'd bury her in a field in Morocco unless she agreed to start spouting his shite.
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When the kids were "describing" [reciding] Abraham's garbage, they were parroting in unison--names always in the same order--it was so fricking obviously a script.

When they were interviewed by the police, and started relaxing, they not only expressed emotion and opinion for the first time [instead of looking nervously at Abe's damn camera and big meaty hand waiting to swoop in and "correct" their camera position], they also started talking about regular kids' stuff as well. Which grandma cooked the favorite pancakes, where they liked to travel, and some pretty strong feelings about Abe ("I hate him," said Gabriel).

Night and day, and any juror watching--were there ever to be one--will see the difference.

Abe is the abuser. Who knows, maybe he has friends who join in (why else take naked videos of the children on his iPhone), but Abe is not a good guy in this case.

Those kids need to be kept AWAY from him. The only reason the kids went along with his scheme is because he threw them against walls, hit them so hard their ears bled, refused to let Ella feed them warm food, and told Alisa he'd bury her in a field in Morocco unless she agreed to start spouting his shite.
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What seems so obvious to you and I (and others) seems to go right over the heads of some people...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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When the kids were "describing" [reciding] Abraham's garbage, they were parroting in unison--names always in the same order--it was so fricking obviously a script.

When they were interviewed by the police, and started relaxing, they not only expressed emotion and opinion for the first time [instead of looking nervously at Abe's damn camera and big meaty hand waiting to swoop in and "correct" their camera position], they also started talking about regular kids' stuff as well. Which grandma cooked the favorite pancakes, where they liked to travel, and some pretty strong feelings about Abe ("I hate him," said Gabriel).

Night and day, and any juror watching--were there ever to be one--will see the difference.

Abe is the abuser. Who knows, maybe he has friends who join in (why else take naked videos of the children on his iPhone), but Abe is not a good guy in this case.

Those kids need to be kept AWAY from him. The only reason the kids went along with his scheme is because he threw them against walls, hit them so hard their ears bled, refused to let Ella feed them warm food, and told Alisa he'd bury her in a field in Morocco unless she agreed to start spouting his shite.
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That seems to be the case. The guy, their escape, the marocco story was suspicious from the start.

Its not easy to stay logical and keep emotions in check with such allegations but it surely would have served some people on the old thread good.
Now lets see if the peopel on change.org are in it or were just used by the mom and stepdad. Are the mum and dad still at large?

A great disservice to real cases of organized child abuse.
Now the question is if the "stepdad" might be the perpetrator of the scars reported in the medical report.
The mom always seemed one of those easily mainpulated woman who do what their guys says.
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Dude...

I pinned it...

rolleyes
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As you promised!

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It's too bad some intrepid investigative journalist or honest person of integrity couldn't go under cover and infiltrate these networks, collecting names, documents, photo/video, like Piscatone (sp?) did when he infiltrated the American Cosa Nostra. Might be the best way around a system that is already corrupted and can't be trusted to investigate itself.

The things these children have very obviously experienced are horrific and sickening...I don't see how they could have made all that up from a "Zorro" movie...They had to have seen and experienced it.
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REally there is one answer. Any institution in charge of children be they orphanages, schools, hospitals, religious institutions/organizations, camps, anyplace where a child is in "custody" (vulnerable to sexual or any violation of physical boundaries/sovereignty) MUST BE STAFFED WITH OUTSIDE OVERSEERS/PROTECTOR TEAMS AT ALL TIMES ON THE PREMISES.
Each organization can and will budget for such staff teams (at least 2).

This is the sort of thread I find myself avoiding related to cruelty.
AFTER UNTOLD DAMAGE IS DONE .. then not a single viable solution. NOT ONE.
Because this sort of unspeakable evil seems to flourish unchecked through lack of direct supervision of children and laws written by rotten swine at every level.
When I read of how children's lives are ruined I see the ruin inside their souls, the marrow of their bones blown to pieces.
No. When we read about the damage all we do is cluck about it. And it continues ad nauseum

I don't know. Will have to come back later. Where is the obvious solution of killing the problem at the ROOT before it can even start.

Instead this goes on centuries on end. F*cking unnecessary.

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I agree the medical evidence supports the claims, this stinks of cover up and corruption and it is not covering up just common people, but those who have money and power, but the people have the real power.
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A great disservice to real cases of organized child abuse.
Now the question is if the "stepdad" might be the perpetrator of the scars reported in the medical report.
The mom always seemed one of those easily mainpulated woman who do what their guys says.
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So absolutely and tragically accurate.
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Womp, these people are screwed, they have just blatantly broadcast government corruption for the entire world to examine......

Shoulda went with trying to use Abe as the fall guy.....

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I agree the medical evidence supports the claims, this stinks of cover up and corruption and it is not covering up just common people, but those who have money and power, but the people have the real power.
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The medical evidence does NOT support the claims.

If Abraham's script were true, Alisa and Gabriel would have extensive, significant scarring.

And we are to believe Alisa has been abused all her life--but never once in the way girls are usually abused? Because the medical report shows she is a healthy and unviolated young girl in that respect.

The reality is that there are a small number of RECENT wounds and scars (Alisa's chin still had a visible one in Abe's damn video, for God's sake), and recent damage to Gabriel's ear, all of which "Papa Hemp" is frantically trying to find scapegoats for.
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Womp, these people are screwed, they have just blatantly broadcast government corruption for the entire world to examine......

Shoulda went with trying to use Abe as the fall guy.....
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Abe isn't a fall guy. He's the abuser, and pretty much everyone knows it, in their gut.
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Womp, these people are screwed, they have just blatantly broadcast government corruption for the entire world to examine......

Shoulda went with trying to use Abe as the fall guy.....
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Have you ever seen an "Investigation" bearing meaningful actual results after the fact?
Include what should be routine cauterizations preventative investigations when they first assert themselves. Before a wide swath cuts through the countryside with hundreds of victims who then stagger unable to carry on with their lives untormented by their experience.
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Womp, these people are screwed, they have just blatantly broadcast government corruption for the entire world to examine......

Shoulda went with trying to use Abe as the fall guy.....
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Abe isn't a fall guy. He's the abuser, and pretty much everyone knows it, in their gut.
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No. Don't pull that crap about Abraham, its getting ridiculous. The testimonies are fully convincing and the claims made there need to be investigated ASAP!

Right now they are doing all they can to avoid just that. That is the definition of a cover-up.
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TOMORROW is Judgement Time: 9.30, Court 36
Here’s the announcement:

Court 36
Before MRS JUSTICE PAUFFLEY
Thursday, 19 March, 2015
At 09:30 AM
Applications in Court as in Chambers
ZC14C00315 Handed Down Judgment & directions

Alleged Hampstead Child Ritual Abuse Case
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Thank you OP for running and moderating this new thread in spite of your busy schedule! Let's see what today's court decision brings, but I feel that whatever it is, this is not over by a long way yet!





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