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Would any of you consider working in China (Feedback needed please)

 
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03/17/2015 02:05 AM
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I am a British man and have been in Beijing for 3 years. I started as a teacher for the Beijing Foreign Studies University before being promoted to teacher trainer and then foreign teacher manager. Along the way I had heard many stories about foreign teachers being treated unfairly and dishonestly so I decided to partner up with a recruitment agency to help foreign teachers find the perfect jobs for themselves.

I figured that sharing some of my ideas of GLP would be a good start with my business because not only are you guys some of the most blunt and candid people possible, but you're also the masters of internet rumours, fear mongering and armchair journalism. Your concerns about coming to China would represent the deepest, darkest concerns that the average westerners would have about coming out here.

Teaching English in China is fantastically paid (starting salary is 1,700USD per month but the cost of living is so cheap here that you could easily save 1,100 of it). After my first year I was awarded a raise to 2,700USD per month for a 36 hour work week. If you have a degree and are over 24 then China is your oyster.

However, lots of people have concerns about the western media perpective of China and I would like to help understand what would really stop someone taking an opportunity like this.

As an extra bonus for English teachers that I recruit, i provide the following but I would love to know if there was anything else that you would recommend:

• Prepaid SIM card and Transport Card
• Accident in the workplace insurance.
• Training for your work placement.
• Chinese language crash courses
• Chinese Calligraphy and Artwork Taster Classes
• Visits to iconic destinations in Beijing such as the Great Wall, The Summer Palace and the Forbidden City.
• Taster classes in Chinese Cooking.
• Taster classes in Kung Fu or Wu-Shu.
• Networking parties, dinners and drinks.
• Factory visits to see where your western products come from and to try your hand at haggling for various products with your new Chinese language skills.
• Tours of the inner city such as the Hutongs and 798 Art District.
• Visits to shows such as the Beijing Opera and Shaolin Kung Fu.

Thanks for reading this. I would really appreciate any feedback whatsoever and would be willing to answer any questions that you may have about what life in China is really like.
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03/17/2015 02:08 AM
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Also, I'd like to add, that I won't be sharing my company information on here because I don't want to spam GLP with advertising. I would genuinely like some feedback. Especially from Americans with strong opinions.
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03/17/2015 02:09 AM
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How do eat, drink water, and breathe air? It sounds great, but I'd worry about being shot for clicking on a glp link or something.
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03/17/2015 02:20 AM
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How do eat, drink water, and breathe air? It sounds great, but I'd worry about being shot for clicking on a glp link or something.
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I eat with chopsticks and drink with a cup or a mug. I breathe through my mouth and nose :P

Fresh food is cheap and there are plenty of imported food supermarkets to buy all of the creature comforts from my home country. street food is about 2 dollars for a main course dish and a bowl of rice.

I have a water cooler in my apartment and drinking water is delivered to my door for 2 dollars for a large container. I have a smoothie maker so I buy fresh fruit in the mornings and make my own smoothies. Alcohol is very cheap (1 dollar for a 40oz of beer so). My water guy delivers beer too so I stock up via him occasionally. Most restaurants and coffee shops have clean drinking water and brita-filters too.

Regarding air quality - some people wear breathing masks but I never have. I haven't had an issue in 3 years. Most of the shocking imagery you see of Chinese pollution is actually quite embellished. Many of the 'smog clouds' are actually dust clouds from the surrounding deserts. The terrain of Beijing is a bowl shape and surrounded by mountains. When the air pressure is at a specific height the dust cannot travel over the mountains so it sits in the city. However, Monday mornings are normally quite smoggy as the factories work double time to make up for the missed days on the weekend.

You will never be in trouble for the types of website you browse. If the website isn't blocked then feel free to go on it. However, you can get in trouble for inciting riots/violence but that's the case in most western countries too.

Thank you for the great questions. They're normally the first ones to come up.
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03/17/2015 02:25 AM
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Do Asian women flock to you and throw themselves down at your feet?
Do people in China hate White people? Is there a China version of The klan?
Do people commute by running and jumping from roof top to roof top, like in Kung Fu movies?
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Hows the weed?
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Grows naturally in many places and easily available. Native stuff is more indica. If you want Sativa you better have a foreign friend. I was a stoner for ten years but quit after getting settled here. I have too much fun to be a couch mong these days.
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03/17/2015 02:31 AM
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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Also, I hate to break it to the OP, but you aren't making a very good salary at all.
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Do Asian women flock to you and throw themselves down at your feet?
I don't have 'yellow fever' so I don't really deal with the natives, my brother does though. He's been here a month and has over 200 matches on TanTan (Chinese Tinder).
The great thing about being a foreigner here isn't the local talent, it's the expat talent. Most western guys that arrive here are beta as fuck and settle for the first submissive asian girl that they see. The side effect of this is that a lot of western girls act alpha to the chinese girls but are still intimidated as fuck by western girls.
This leaves a massive pool of expat girls that get completely over looked and under sexxed. That's where I come in and clean up. This week I sampled some Russian, French and Latina.

Do people in China hate White people? Is there a China version of The klan? No most people do not hate white people. They're very friendly and will often shout 'Hallluo' as you walk past. They're very keen on impressing you and showing their country off. Many businessmen will by you drinks all night if you sit at their table. It gives them status to host foreigners.
There are a feel butthurt young guys that will try to fight foreigners for being with Chinese women but it's few and far between (I've never seen it myself but it was in the news).

Do people commute by running and jumping from roof top to roof top, like in Kung Fu movies? Nope, the preffered method these days is staring at your smart phone whilst walking in front of traffic and bumping into people.
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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Also, I hate to break it to the OP, but you aren't making a very good salary at all.
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My salary is fantastic these days. Much better than my western counterparts at home.

The example salaries that I gave were for teaching English. Take into account the cost of living: [link to www.orange-tree.net]
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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What are you plans? What kind of work do you want to get in to? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Hows the weed?
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Grows naturally in many places and easily available. Native stuff is more indica. If you want Sativa you better have a foreign friend. I was a stoner for ten years but quit after getting settled here. I have too much fun to be a couch mong these days.
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Then yes i would consider going back.
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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What are you plans? What kind of work do you want to get in to? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thanks, I'd like to work for China Times English version or maybe another Chinese English publication. I'm a journalist/editor. But I don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if that will be a problem.
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Are you required to live in company housing, how saturated is the market for english language, what is the upper limit for age, and how are blacks treated in china? I'm a white guy, but a black guy might read this and wonder.
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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What are you plans? What kind of work do you want to get in to? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thanks, I'd like to work for China Times English version or maybe another Chinese English publication. I'm a journalist/editor. But I don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if that will be a problem.
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You must pass your HSK to prove that you can speak Mandarin. Many of the universities offer full time courses plus courses on the evenings and weekends. There's an expat site and magazine called 'The Beijinger' that are looking for talented writers and journo's for English articles. There's also Time Out and City Weekend that emply non Mandarin speakers.
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Are you required to live in company housing, how saturated is the market for english language, what is the upper limit for age, and how are blacks treated in china? I'm a white guy, but a black guy might read this and wonder.
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1) Are you required to live in company housing
Not at all. Most foreigners enjoy the freedom of choosing their own housing. I lived in my own apartment for two years. However, one of the terms of my new co-operation with the recruitment company was that they pay my rent. I chose the apartment but they foot the bill. Some schools and uni's will offer you free housing on campus but I wouldn't like to live in the same place that I work.

2)how saturated is the market for english language?
Right now it's extremely unsaturated for native speakers. Americans and Brits are highly sought after at the moment. Due to not being able to meet the demand, most vacancies are filled by Eastern europeans. However, if a school were given the chance to have a native English teacher they would choose them over anyone else regardless of qualifications.

3) what is the upper limit for age?
60 years old. This is the age limit for applying for a working visa. Most employers would rather have someone young and healthy though.

4) and how are blacks treated in china?
Undesirable, second class citizens. Most people joke that they're not really human and closer to apes (though they would rarely say it outside of close company). Black folk here will have a real hard time finding work and must be amazingly qualified.
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Yes, I would love to work and live in China for a few years, that's a goal of mine, actually. I've always enjoyed Asia, lived in Honolulu for 15 years which is as close to Asia as you can get in the US. I already know exactly what kind of work I am going to do while I am there.
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What are you plans? What kind of work do you want to get in to? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thanks, I'd like to work for China Times English version or maybe another Chinese English publication. I'm a journalist/editor. But I don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if that will be a problem.
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You must pass your HSK to prove that you can speak Mandarin. Many of the universities offer full time courses plus courses on the evenings and weekends. There's an expat site and magazine called 'The Beijinger' that are looking for talented writers and journo's for English articles. There's also Time Out and City Weekend that emply non Mandarin speakers.
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Cool thanks for the help. I will check them out! Which city is better? Shanghai or Beijing?
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Are you required to live in company housing, how saturated is the market for english language, what is the upper limit for age, and how are blacks treated in china? I'm a white guy, but a black guy might read this and wonder.
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1) Are you required to live in company housing
Not at all. Most foreigners enjoy the freedom of choosing their own housing. I lived in my own apartment for two years. However, one of the terms of my new co-operation with the recruitment company was that they pay my rent. I chose the apartment but they foot the bill. Some schools and uni's will offer you free housing on campus but I wouldn't like to live in the same place that I work.

2)how saturated is the market for english language?
Right now it's extremely unsaturated for native speakers. Americans and Brits are highly sought after at the moment. Due to not being able to meet the demand, most vacancies are filled by Eastern europeans. However, if a school were given the chance to have a native English teacher they would choose them over anyone else regardless of qualifications.

3) what is the upper limit for age?
60 years old. This is the age limit for applying for a working visa. Most employers would rather have someone young and healthy though.

4) and how are blacks treated in china?
Undesirable, second class citizens. Most people joke that they're not really human and closer to apes (though they would rarely say it outside of close company). Black folk here will have a real hard time finding work and must be amazingly qualified.
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Thanks for answering. I asked the first two questions specifically from experience with NOVA. Never taught in Japan, but read a lot about it years ago. Of course, you make teaching in China sound appealing, but then again, that is your job.
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What are you plans? What kind of work do you want to get in to? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thanks, I'd like to work for China Times English version or maybe another Chinese English publication. I'm a journalist/editor. But I don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if that will be a problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66021996


You must pass your HSK to prove that you can speak Mandarin. Many of the universities offer full time courses plus courses on the evenings and weekends. There's an expat site and magazine called 'The Beijinger' that are looking for talented writers and journo's for English articles. There's also Time Out and City Weekend that emply non Mandarin speakers.
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Cool thanks for the help. I will check them out! Which city is better? Shanghai or Beijing?
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Better for what? I think that Shanghai is a little more western and celebrates its degeneracy more. It has a reputation for being a sin city. However the place is a little cleaner but more expensive.

Beijing looks like a western city but it's still very set in its traditional ways. It's cheaper to live here but the migrant workers treat the city like a giant trash can.
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Lived in China for 2 years doing what you speak of and had a blast.

Most all things I had been taught in school and by society about China and its people were a LIE!! For the most part the people were great, friendly, welcoming and most hospitable.

The food is fresh daily and quite flavorful. While there Facebook was blocked, no Netflix and youtube ran severely slow with alot of videos not able to view outside of the States. But there is QQ and youqu the Chinese counterparts.

The women if you choose come quite easy, I could be eating at an outdoor cafe and be approached or reading in the city center on a bench and women would sit and ask to practice their English.

A fellow English teacher got the reputation of being an ass fucker in our district, to meet women he had to travel to other areas of the city to meet women as in our district they avoided him like the plague. The community talks about you, so mind your honor (face). If you are good at what you do it will be rewarded.

IMO after living in China and in the States I found more freedom in China. As long as you do not protest, missionary work or speak against the party you are as free as you want to do what you want.

After my parents pass I will go back to China assuming we are still allowed to exit the country and that is where I will die.
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What are you plans? What kind of work do you want to get in to? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Thanks, I'd like to work for China Times English version or maybe another Chinese English publication. I'm a journalist/editor. But I don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if that will be a problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66021996


You must pass your HSK to prove that you can speak Mandarin. Many of the universities offer full time courses plus courses on the evenings and weekends. There's an expat site and magazine called 'The Beijinger' that are looking for talented writers and journo's for English articles. There's also Time Out and City Weekend that emply non Mandarin speakers.
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Cool thanks for the help. I will check them out! Which city is better? Shanghai or Beijing?
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Also, are there any English-Chinese business publications you know of?
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Thanks, I'd like to work for China Times English version or maybe another Chinese English publication. I'm a journalist/editor. But I don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if that will be a problem.
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You must pass your HSK to prove that you can speak Mandarin. Many of the universities offer full time courses plus courses on the evenings and weekends. There's an expat site and magazine called 'The Beijinger' that are looking for talented writers and journo's for English articles. There's also Time Out and City Weekend that emply non Mandarin speakers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68614959


Cool thanks for the help. I will check them out! Which city is better? Shanghai or Beijing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66021996


Better for what? I think that Shanghai is a little more western and celebrates its degeneracy more. It has a reputation for being a sin city. However the place is a little cleaner but more expensive.

Beijing looks like a western city but it's still very set in its traditional ways. It's cheaper to live here but the migrant workers treat the city like a giant trash can.
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From that description, I think I would like Shanghai better, but what exactly do you mean by degenerate? Prostitution, gambling, etc...? That kind of thing?
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Do Asian women flock to you and throw themselves down at your feet?
I don't have 'yellow fever' so I don't really deal with the natives, my brother does though. He's been here a month and has over 200 matches on TanTan (Chinese Tinder).
The great thing about being a foreigner here isn't the local talent, it's the expat talent. Most western guys that arrive here are beta as fuck and settle for the first submissive asian girl that they see. The side effect of this is that a lot of western girls act alpha to the chinese girls but are still intimidated as fuck by western girls.
This leaves a massive pool of expat girls that get completely over looked and under sexxed. That's where I come in and clean up. This week I sampled some Russian, French and Latina.

Do people in China hate White people? Is there a China version of The klan? No most people do not hate white people. They're very friendly and will often shout 'Hallluo' as you walk past. They're very keen on impressing you and showing their country off. Many businessmen will by you drinks all night if you sit at their table. It gives them status to host foreigners.
There are a feel butthurt young guys that will try to fight foreigners for being with Chinese women but it's few and far between (I've never seen it myself but it was in the news).

Do people commute by running and jumping from roof top to roof top, like in Kung Fu movies? Nope, the preffered method these days is staring at your smart phone whilst walking in front of traffic and bumping into people.
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This is total bullshit China has a shortage of women from the one child policy and only wanting a son to carry on the family name.
You will get gang bashed to death if a westerner seen walking down the street with a Chinese girl.
Its not only been in the media the Chinese authorities actually warned me about it when I went there.
The Police are scared when there is 100+ people doing the bashing and will do nothing.
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I'm taking ITS courses now and want to get into something closer to organic agriculture, maybe social/psychology, but I am just sailing along at the moment.

I would see moving to China, making salary like that, saving up and learning a language while teaching and interacting (which I would enjoy) as an opportunity to jump start life.

How would it work with schooling, or would it work at all?
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How do eat, drink water, and breathe air? It sounds great, but I'd worry about being shot for clicking on a glp link or something.
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I eat with chopsticks and drink with a cup or a mug. I breathe through my mouth and nose :P

Fresh food is cheap and there are plenty of imported food supermarkets to buy all of the creature comforts from my home country. street food is about 2 dollars for a main course dish and a bowl of rice.

I have a water cooler in my apartment and drinking water is delivered to my door for 2 dollars for a large container. I have a smoothie maker so I buy fresh fruit in the mornings and make my own smoothies. Alcohol is very cheap (1 dollar for a 40oz of beer so). My water guy delivers beer too so I stock up via him occasionally. Most restaurants and coffee shops have clean drinking water and brita-filters too.

Regarding air quality - some people wear breathing masks but I never have. I haven't had an issue in 3 years. Most of the shocking imagery you see of Chinese pollution is actually quite embellished. Many of the 'smog clouds' are actually dust clouds from the surrounding deserts. The terrain of Beijing is a bowl shape and surrounded by mountains. When the air pressure is at a specific height the dust cannot travel over the mountains so it sits in the city. However, Monday mornings are normally quite smoggy as the factories work double time to make up for the missed days on the weekend.

You will never be in trouble for the types of website you browse. If the website isn't blocked then feel free to go on it. However, you can get in trouble for inciting riots/violence but that's the case in most western countries too.

Thank you for the great questions. They're normally the first ones to come up.
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Do Asian women flock to you and throw themselves down at your feet?
I don't have 'yellow fever' so I don't really deal with the natives, my brother does though. He's been here a month and has over 200 matches on TanTan (Chinese Tinder).
The great thing about being a foreigner here isn't the local talent, it's the expat talent. Most western guys that arrive here are beta as fuck and settle for the first submissive asian girl that they see. The side effect of this is that a lot of western girls act alpha to the chinese girls but are still intimidated as fuck by western girls.
This leaves a massive pool of expat girls that get completely over looked and under sexxed. That's where I come in and clean up. This week I sampled some Russian, French and Latina.

Do people in China hate White people? Is there a China version of The klan? No most people do not hate white people. They're very friendly and will often shout 'Hallluo' as you walk past. They're very keen on impressing you and showing their country off. Many businessmen will by you drinks all night if you sit at their table. It gives them status to host foreigners.
There are a feel butthurt young guys that will try to fight foreigners for being with Chinese women but it's few and far between (I've never seen it myself but it was in the news).

Do people commute by running and jumping from roof top to roof top, like in Kung Fu movies? Nope, the preffered method these days is staring at your smart phone whilst walking in front of traffic and bumping into people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68614959


This is total bullshit China has a shortage of women from the one child policy and only wanting a son to carry on the family name.
You will get gang bashed to death if a westerner seen walking down the street with a Chinese girl.
Its not only been in the media the Chinese authorities actually warned me about it when I went there.
The Police are scared when there is 100+ people doing the bashing and will do nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30538791


This is total bullshit China has a shortage of women from the one child policy and only wanting a son to carry on the family name.
Yes there are around 35 million men that mathematically will never marry. However, they are aware that even if there were equal men to women it takes more than just being a single, willing male to get a wife. You need looks, status and wealth. There will be bitter people in all countries.

You will get gang bashed to death if a westerner seen walking down the street with a Chinese girl.
It's not happened to myself or anyone that I know of in three years. Do you not think it would be in the news every day if it were that popular?

Its not only been in the media the Chinese authorities actually warned me about it when I went there.
Perhaps you look like an undesirable? It's scare mongering. Go to gulou, sanlitun or wudaokou any night of the week and you'll see race-mixing a plenty.

The Police are scared when there is 100+ people doing the bashing and will do nothing.
Once again, there's never been a 100+ people 'laowai bashing'.
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Re: Would any of you consider working in China (Feedback needed please)
You'll wind up in a Saudi brothel. This is the same trick they use on a lot of trafficked women.
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You must pass your HSK to prove that you can speak Mandarin. Many of the universities offer full time courses plus courses on the evenings and weekends. There's an expat site and magazine called 'The Beijinger' that are looking for talented writers and journo's for English articles. There's also Time Out and City Weekend that emply non Mandarin speakers.
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Cool thanks for the help. I will check them out! Which city is better? Shanghai or Beijing?
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Better for what? I think that Shanghai is a little more western and celebrates its degeneracy more. It has a reputation for being a sin city. However the place is a little cleaner but more expensive.

Beijing looks like a western city but it's still very set in its traditional ways. It's cheaper to live here but the migrant workers treat the city like a giant trash can.
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From that description, I think I would like Shanghai better, but what exactly do you mean by degenerate? Prostitution, gambling, etc...? That kind of thing?
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Yes prostituion, drugs, gambling etc.
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Re: Would any of you consider working in China (Feedback needed please)
I'm taking ITS courses now and want to get into something closer to organic agriculture, maybe social/psychology, but I am just sailing along at the moment.

I would see moving to China, making salary like that, saving up and learning a language while teaching and interacting (which I would enjoy) as an opportunity to jump start life.

How would it work with schooling, or would it work at all?
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My friends fiance does something quite similar with organic agriculture and applied engineering. There's lots of money in these fields at the moment (no pun intended).

If you are accepted into a study course or masters program then you can supplement your income teaching private 1 on 1 or small group classes. You can make around 1,200usd a month if you teach for a couple of hours on the weekdays.





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