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Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 66146770 United States 03/18/2015 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Possibly. On some level we ought to be able to cuss at celebrities if we want to. Likewise we should be able to reasonably protect ourselves on social media. Judd is taking this incident seriously and I am glad cause it raises awareness of how public social media truly is. Social media will not go away so we do need to struggle to make it the best we can. Maybe Twitter should figure some shit out like GLP has. GM could be a consultant for them :) If it turns into some way to hamper the internet as you suggest... I believe it won't be done. The success/profit is better unconstrained. We shall see though You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
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Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 66146770 United States 03/18/2015 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody is forcing these retard to read their twitter or sign up, yet they are always crying for being trolled, such thin skin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25976116 I might agree with you but I think it's easy to say. I know what it's like to deal with a small community knowing me and my business and being able to criticize and to be quite honest I have had to stick up for myself in my life as does everyone. Celebrity is exponentially so. Hey that's up to celebs you say... ok but When Judd is simply cheering for her team and gets called a slut and cunt... we are no longer simply dealing with just celebrity. That registers to all women and its not right... it's abusive and where the anonymity no longer exists... a real threat may exist and should be monitered. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 66146770 United States 03/18/2015 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody is forcing these retard to read their twitter or sign up, yet they are always crying for being trolled, such thin skin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25976116 I might agree with you but I think it's easy to say. I know what it's like to deal with a small community knowing me and my business and being able to criticize and to be quite honest I have had to stick up for myself in my life as does everyone. Celebrity is exponentially so. Hey that's up to celebs you say... ok but When Judd is simply cheering for her team and gets called a slut and cunt... we are no longer simply dealing with just celebrity. That registers to all women and its not right... it's abusive and where the anonymity no longer exists... a real threat may exist and should be monitered. Also if she did nothing it would be an invitation to keep doing it. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25976116 United States 03/18/2015 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody is forcing these retard to read their twitter or sign up, yet they are always crying for being trolled, such thin skin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25976116 I might agree with you but I think it's easy to say. I know what it's like to deal with a small community knowing me and my business and being able to criticize and to be quite honest I have had to stick up for myself in my life as does everyone. Celebrity is exponentially so. Hey that's up to celebs you say... ok but When Judd is simply cheering for her team and gets called a slut and cunt... we are no longer simply dealing with just celebrity. That registers to all women and its not right... it's abusive and where the anonymity no longer exists... a real threat may exist and should be monitered. "should be monitored"? |
Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 66146770 United States 03/18/2015 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody is forcing these retard to read their twitter or sign up, yet they are always crying for being trolled, such thin skin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25976116 I might agree with you but I think it's easy to say. I know what it's like to deal with a small community knowing me and my business and being able to criticize and to be quite honest I have had to stick up for myself in my life as does everyone. Celebrity is exponentially so. Hey that's up to celebs you say... ok but When Judd is simply cheering for her team and gets called a slut and cunt... we are no longer simply dealing with just celebrity. That registers to all women and its not right... it's abusive and where the anonymity no longer exists... a real threat may exist and should be monitered. "should be monitored"? Lol you know I meant that threats should be monitered and even followed up on if there is any real possibility of violence or danger being inflicted. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
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Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 66146770 United States 03/18/2015 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short story: she cheered for her team in a tweet and in response people called her a whore and a cunt and then some. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5209159 United States 03/18/2015 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There needs to be a fine line drawn between actual threats and joking around. A person should never be charged with a crime for joking around. I don't care if the "joke" is to rape Kurt SHILLing's daughter, or Ashley Judd. A joke is a joke regardless of whether the person it's directed towards finds it amusing, or not. If Judd and SHILLing can't handle it then get the fuck off social media. Trolling is a part of the Internet. DEAL WITH IT, or the GTFO! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16777886 Australia 03/18/2015 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There needs to be a fine line drawn between actual threats and joking around. A person should never be charged with a crime for joking around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5209159 I don't care if the "joke" is to rape Kurt SHILLing's daughter, or Ashley Judd. A joke is a joke regardless of whether the person it's directed towards finds it amusing, or not. If Judd and SHILLing can't handle it then get the fuck off social media. Trolling is a part of the Internet. DEAL WITH IT, or the GTFO! No sane person would take that as a joke no matter who it was directed at. You need help, seriously. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5209159 United States 03/18/2015 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There needs to be a fine line drawn between actual threats and joking around. A person should never be charged with a crime for joking around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5209159 I don't care if the "joke" is to rape Kurt SHILLing's daughter, or Ashley Judd. A joke is a joke regardless of whether the person it's directed towards finds it amusing, or not. If Judd and SHILLing can't handle it then get the fuck off social media. Trolling is a part of the Internet. DEAL WITH IT, or the GTFO! No sane person would take that as a joke no matter who it was directed at. You need help, seriously. That's irrelevant. How it's taken doesn't matter. It's all about how it was intended. If it's a legitimate threat then charges should be filed. If it's a joke then Judd should be told to shut her mouth, stop whining, and shut down her social media accounts if she can't take it. Nobody forced her to log on and start arguments with people. She can easily block those people as soon as she see's a comment she finds offensive. Instead, she talked back and suffered the wrath. Maybe, she'll learn her lesson not to start arguments with random strangers that she has the choice to separate herself from at any point and time she so chooses. People like Judd and SHILLing are old people who are new to the Internet and are merely suffering from culture shock, as a result. They're a disgrace to America and our freedom of speech (that includes sick jokes). The rest of us shouldn't be deprived of our freedom to joke around no matter how "sick" our sense of humor is in the eyes of others. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5209159 United States 03/18/2015 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short story: she cheered for her team in a tweet and in response people called her a whore and a cunt and then some. I didn't get it... who's "her team"...... political team? sexual team? sports team? Kentucky basketball team where she went to college. This happened during a tournament she attended. |
thepatrioticgirl User ID: 67756040 United States 03/18/2015 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed. It's all a set-up. It's all fun & games until the Dogman stands up Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy Shit! What a ride!" In times of trouble, I ask myself, "What would Sarah Conner do?" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63830259 United States 03/18/2015 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There needs to be a fine line drawn between actual threats and joking around. A person should never be charged with a crime for joking around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5209159 I don't care if the "joke" is to rape Kurt SHILLing's daughter, or Ashley Judd. A joke is a joke regardless of whether the person it's directed towards finds it amusing, or not. If Judd and SHILLing can't handle it then get the fuck off social media. Trolling is a part of the Internet. DEAL WITH IT, or the GTFO! No sane person would take that as a joke no matter who it was directed at. You need help, seriously. That's irrelevant. How it's taken doesn't matter. It's all about how it was intended. If it's a legitimate threat then charges should be filed. If it's a joke then Judd should be told to shut her mouth, stop whining, and shut down her social media accounts if she can't take it. Nobody forced her to log on and start arguments with people. She can easily block those people as soon as she see's a comment she finds offensive. Instead, she talked back and suffered the wrath. Maybe, she'll learn her lesson not to start arguments with random strangers that she has the choice to separate herself from at any point and time she so chooses. People like Judd and SHILLing are old people who are new to the Internet and are merely suffering from culture shock, as a result. They're a disgrace to America and our freedom of speech (that includes sick jokes). The rest of us shouldn't be deprived of our freedom to joke around no matter how "sick" our sense of humor is in the eyes of others. "Old people"? What the fuck are you - 12? To threaten to rape someone is a verbal assault for which someone could be arrested in person. It should be the same for media like Twitter. You can't go around threatening physical assault on people. It's not how civilized people act. But then again, you are a 12 year old who was raised on social media instead of interacting with real people in the real world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5209159 United States 03/18/2015 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There needs to be a fine line drawn between actual threats and joking around. A person should never be charged with a crime for joking around. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5209159 I don't care if the "joke" is to rape Kurt SHILLing's daughter, or Ashley Judd. A joke is a joke regardless of whether the person it's directed towards finds it amusing, or not. If Judd and SHILLing can't handle it then get the fuck off social media. Trolling is a part of the Internet. DEAL WITH IT, or the GTFO! No sane person would take that as a joke no matter who it was directed at. You need help, seriously. That's irrelevant. How it's taken doesn't matter. It's all about how it was intended. If it's a legitimate threat then charges should be filed. If it's a joke then Judd should be told to shut her mouth, stop whining, and shut down her social media accounts if she can't take it. Nobody forced her to log on and start arguments with people. She can easily block those people as soon as she see's a comment she finds offensive. Instead, she talked back and suffered the wrath. Maybe, she'll learn her lesson not to start arguments with random strangers that she has the choice to separate herself from at any point and time she so chooses. People like Judd and SHILLing are old people who are new to the Internet and are merely suffering from culture shock, as a result. They're a disgrace to America and our freedom of speech (that includes sick jokes). The rest of us shouldn't be deprived of our freedom to joke around no matter how "sick" our sense of humor is in the eyes of others. "Old people"? What the fuck are you - 12? To threaten to rape someone is a verbal assault for which someone could be arrested in person. It should be the same for media like Twitter. You can't go around threatening physical assault on people. It's not how civilized people act. But then again, you are a 12 year old who was raised on social media instead of interacting with real people in the real world. It's a joke, though. Not an actual threat. The real world is different than the Internet. There are no "privacy settings" in the real world that allow you to instantly separate yourself from the harassment at will with the mere click of a button. In the real world you need legal consequences to separate yourself from the harassment. On the Internet, you don't. Approaching situations on the Internet the same way you approach situations in the real world is not only rediculious, but dishonest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65830331 New Zealand 03/18/2015 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is self righteous and attention seeking She started it by saying the other team played dirty The other team didn't take kindly to her smear But Judd is hardly a victim of "gender violence" There are real victims in the world Sticks and stones may break my bones But tweets (no matter how vulgar) never hurt me |
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Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 68582955 United States 03/19/2015 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short story: she cheered for her team in a tweet and in response people called her a whore and a cunt and then some. Truth is an absolute defense against false charges of slander. =) You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32684579 United States 03/19/2015 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody is forcing these retard to read their twitter or sign up, yet they are always crying for being trolled, such thin skin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25976116 no they do it so they can be told everyday how great they are by their twitter fans.. LOL they want the worship the flattery but cannot take the insult. the resentment. they are sick. twisted. look at kim Kardashian celebrating how many twitter followers? that is where she gets her self esteem boost. she goes and gets told how great she is every day and then when she (they) don't get that they cry like bratty pouty children. they are sick. twisted. individuals. period. most of society is. but Hollywood more so than most. |
Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 68582955 United States 03/19/2015 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16777886 No sane person would take that as a joke no matter who it was directed at. You need help, seriously. That's irrelevant. How it's taken doesn't matter. It's all about how it was intended. If it's a legitimate threat then charges should be filed. If it's a joke then Judd should be told to shut her mouth, stop whining, and shut down her social media accounts if she can't take it. Nobody forced her to log on and start arguments with people. She can easily block those people as soon as she see's a comment she finds offensive. Instead, she talked back and suffered the wrath. Maybe, she'll learn her lesson not to start arguments with random strangers that she has the choice to separate herself from at any point and time she so chooses. People like Judd and SHILLing are old people who are new to the Internet and are merely suffering from culture shock, as a result. They're a disgrace to America and our freedom of speech (that includes sick jokes). The rest of us shouldn't be deprived of our freedom to joke around no matter how "sick" our sense of humor is in the eyes of others. "Old people"? What the fuck are you - 12? To threaten to rape someone is a verbal assault for which someone could be arrested in person. It should be the same for media like Twitter. You can't go around threatening physical assault on people. It's not how civilized people act. But then again, you are a 12 year old who was raised on social media instead of interacting with real people in the real world. It's a joke, though. Not an actual threat. The real world is different than the Internet. There are no "privacy settings" in the real world that allow you to instantly separate yourself from the harassment at will with the mere click of a button. In the real world you need legal consequences to separate yourself from the harassment. On the Internet, you don't. Approaching situations on the Internet the same way you approach situations in the real world is not only rediculious, but dishonest. I see what you both are saying. I was thinking similarly about the distance between real world and social media. Personally I think it is important for people to operate under the assumption that social media is the real world. I think that is the safest healthiest route to take. Along these lines there is the concept of space... Obviously there would be no debate here if Judd were standing next to her slanderers and they were slandering her in person. Naturally she would react. And if I were her date to the game I would have wanted to kick somebody's ass. Sure people would criticize and it would be a matter of whether or not you like Judd or not or care or whatever. Judd's reaction to this situation as it did happen though on Twitter, I think is appropriate. I have some second thoughts because she could have just blocked those people and ignored it... but wait a minute. This is real life. That was really Judd posting on her account and Judd not only is a person and people deserve respect on a basic level but she also has a brand to protect because she is a celebrity. Celebrity adds several dimensions to all of this. Its more than ego its more than personal pride its also important to Judd that she is perceived a certain way for business reasons. Also, it is Judd's celebrity that allows her to respond in the way she is. She has the resources. She has the knowledge and it fits very well with the community work that she already does for women and women's issues. This all fits very well with her brand. Personally, I like Jay and Silent Bob's method but without those kind of resources most people would just click block or ignore. I applaud Judd for going after rude people in a civilized manner. She is in a position to remind people that social media is real life. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 68582955 United States 03/19/2015 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is self righteous and attention seeking Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65830331 She started it by saying the other team played dirty The other team didn't take kindly to her smear But Judd is hardly a victim of "gender violence" There are real victims in the world Sticks and stones may break my bones But tweets (no matter how vulgar) never hurt me So its pretty much small town sports interactions on a grand scale. I think you are right. She is attention seeking and her response is in line with her brand as a celebrity. I disagree with you about whether she is a victim of gender violence. It is a fine line between saying things and doing things. If any headway will be made in ending gender violence then humanity needs to embrace the concept on the fundamental level of language. Hopefully by standing up for herself she will inspire other women to do so in their lives no matter where on the scale of gender violence/discrimination the incident might be. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
Undestroyer (OP) Truth User ID: 68582955 United States 03/20/2015 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently Judd was threatened with sexual violence as well. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
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